It was apart of my daily life until I came to the word of God. I actually never thought I could quit, but as my heart was changed, so were my habits. And I'm still working on bad habits everyday. I understand that I will never be perfect, but I must keeping seeking and walking towards the light. Seeking first his kingdom.
Bro u r helping me thank u 4 shareing man I needed this bad bro ik I'm 6 years late an a dollar short but God told u 2 right this years ago so it could reach me an many others like me love u in Christ brother hope your doing good now a days
Obesity is closely associated with drunkenness in the Bible and they both should be view in the same light. (See Deuteronomy 21:20; Proverbs 23:21) So your point is very well taken and confirms the reality of the problem of obesity and drunkenness in this country. In the United States, 36.5 percent of adults are obese. Another 32.5 percent of American adults are overweight. In all, more than two-thirds of adults in the United States are overweight or obese. Alcohol is the most commonly used addictive substance in the United States. More than half of all adults have a family history of alcoholism or problem drinking, and more than 7 million children live in a household where at least one parent is dependent on or has abused alcohol. "Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering, and wantonness, not in strife and envying. But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfill the lusts thereof." Romans 13:13,14
He causeth the grass to grow for the cattle, and herb for the service of man: that he may bring forth food out of the earth; And wine that maketh glad the heart of man, and oil to make his face to shine, and bread which strengtheneth man's heart. Psalms 104:14-15 KJV Just for those that do smoke. Sin is personal.
@@xIsraelite777 Im quitting weed. Im 3 days in. 1 Peter 5:8 , Be Sober , Be vigilant. For your enemy the Devil roams the Earth like a Lion looking for someone to devour. I mean it says be sober so I’m gonna take it literal. Ya know. We’re suppose to submit. Not make God work with our flesh wants
this guys is the example of how a christian should live. this goes to show christianity is NOT about stupid rules and regulations, and we as christians hate religious rules and can't stand rule ridden religious people. all christianity is about is: living like Jesus. coming as you are, broken, hurt, and letting love have the first place in your life. thats it. the christians that actually understand this and live it out are so hated and it just boggles my mind how people hate on someone that just displays love. nobody ever said christians are perfect people and whoever believes that has a completely wrong and distorted view of christianity. Jesus hating religion. the pharisees were religious and a bunch of rule nazis and Jesus cursed them
ha, classic. we don't sacrifice goats. I can pray while I use the computer. if you want an escape from us "lunatics", which we are, don't watch these kinds of videos... it's simple.
I'm sure your comment is well intended, but I was hoping I could kindly point out some scriptural inaccuracies in it. I don't mean offense but am hoping you'll appreciate these biblical truths being brought to your attention. #1 Regarding the pharisees, Jesus actually said, "You must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach." (Matt 23). Jesus was against hypocrisy, not rule following. #2 Jesus said, "If you love me, keep my commandments" (John 14:15). His core commandment was repentance (Matt 4:17). #3 Christianity is religion (James 1:27) and it requires following rules to remain "unstained by the world." #4 Jesus said "But you are to be perfect, even as your Father in heaven is perfect" (Matt 5:48). #5 You said we should just live as Jesus did, which is true, but you have to remember that He managed to obey every single rule of the old covenant law. Some people today preach that Jesus ignored the Mosaic law, and that is why the pharisees hated him. However, the only thing he disregarded was their unloving, man made corruption of God's laws. It was necessary for Christ to obey the law perfectly in order to become the perfect sacrifice and destroy the power of death and sin (Hebrews 10). I pray this is helpful to you. God bless.
@@flickering_wick Very well said! Tony Evans, John McArthur, & Paul Washer are the most biblical and eloquently discerning ministers I've heard. And they all agree with you!
Beautiful testimony. Weed cured my depression and make me realise everything said by real Christian’s is true. Jesus Christ is real and he loves every human being and his principles for life lead to happiness and fulfilment!!! ✝️✝️❤ I will try my best to quit now with gods help as I no longer need it
I Don’t think so. It’s your witness. If you witness to an alcoholic and they see you consuming alcohol and it causes them to fall back into it because you sir said screw it,s okay, you are responsible if that person goes back to drinking cause my pastor said screw, it’s okay. Get it straight. WRONG! That’s the problem when people say it okay, when clearly one sip leads to many others. WRONG!!!!😢👎🏻🤬
He causeth the grass to grow for the cattle, and herb for the service of man: that he may bring forth food out of the earth; And wine that maketh glad the heart of man, and oil to make his face to shine, and bread which strengtheneth man's heart. Psalms 104:14-15 KJV
For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
@infamousgrizzly1358 So you're basically saying Jesus Christ encourages people to smoke? And to consume alcohol? Are you saying Jesus drank alcohol? Will alcohol or Smoking be allowed in heaven? There are numerous biblical verses that you could twist to say that the Bible supports such. However in Matthew 26:27-29 - Either Jesus is saying Alcohol is ok now and will be in heaven when he comes again or he didn't drink alcohol to begin with.
You know, when you realize that the problem he describes, the issues/things he is "done with" are so wide spread, its easy to see why atheists tend to hate Christians, because we have such a jacked up and confusing view, we preach Jesus and then "teach" man made rules and they don't mesh well very often at all, I wish I could have been at this Church to hear that entire message, its this attitude that gives me hope, as someone who grew up in church and even attended ministry school, I'm right there with this Pastor, I could type paragraphs explaining all the nuances but I'll just say AMEN instead
Some people are intoxicated with religion. Weed sets my meandering thoughts straight. It helps me to love God and others without me being tied up in my own head, and such love fulfills the entire law. It's a crime that such medicine is illegal in some states
@@jeremyfrancispiano2 marijuana is Gods medicine. It saved my life literally. So did Jesus lol. But people that are against marijuana have honestly been brainwashed by the propaganda the government has made people believe.
@@generalhorseplay6153God did not create this plant as a sin. Everything god made is good. if the use of this plant makes you look at people with disgust, ask yourself if you are being sinful for choosing to be disgusted in the first place. Real sin is disgusting, and almost always obvious
While The bible does not say that drinking alcohol is a sin, rather getting drunk is, We should not be eager to indulge in something that could lead us into an altered state of mind. What's the point of drinking alcohol if you're not wanting to get a buzz? If you like the taste so much, drink the non alcoholic kind. Sometimes as humans we live with the mindset of " how much can I get away with and still go to heaven". This is a terrible mindset seeing we are to consider those around us who are weak and are not able to stop at one drink. Why drink something that has assisted in the deaths of countless people through car accidents, suicides, rapes, murders etc. Paul said in the New Testament "all things are lawful, but all things are not expedient" which simply means that as a Christian there are a lot of things we can do, but all things are not wise to do. This is not to condemn those that do, rather God's desire is that we seek to live a life that honors God in all things.
Smoking marijuana wasn't a part of the message of Jesus Christ. Christ wasn't about smoking marijuana, neither were His disciples. Smoking marijuana is a sin. Defiling the temple of God. God's word tells us to be sober. Being stoned is not sober. Then he ends his so called sermon by saying screw it. Those are the words that people say right before they get stoned because they are not living in God's reality.
@@kevingreaux7133 my friend, most people who smoke cannabis are sober minded. Be sober & vigilant is talking about don’t do hard drugs or drink alcohol. You see, Cannabis “Canabus” translation in ancient text. Was a herb bearing seed used by Egyptian ancestors in the ancient times. Cannabis was used ta heal wounds, the sick, those with incurable diseases etc. I have tics. Tourette’s syndrome. Plus I have had my fare share of depression too. Marijuana cannabis saved my life completely. & I honestly believe that God provided me with a medicine that he made. If smokeing marijuana is such a “sin” Then how come everyone in the Bible was getting drunk with wine & committing sin? That’s something ta look intoo…
Cannabis (translation “Canabus”) was mentioned as a herb bearing seed. I understand mainstream Christian’s are against it. But seriously, you should be against someone drinking a bunch. & yes there were alcoholics in the Bible. Wasn’t Noah a drunk? Ta be against marijuana is like ta be against the movie actor ya claim ta love so much. Like seriously.
It seems like we are getting to the point where Christians can do what they want say what they want act how they want and its all good . Paul and all of them did not live that way, they where ready to die for the Gospel we have really became weak. No matter the doctrine anymore. I have to say its sad 😢 even for myself i would love to get back to my first love ❤. What happened to believing that Jesus could heal like he did in the word , and even how he told his disciples to do it. Go and heal the sick , raise the dead and cast out devils. We've lost our power as the church that God gave us through the Holy Ghost 🔥😢😢😢. What happened to Acts 2:17 ?
Many years ago when I first got saved a Christian family invited me to their house for dinner, in the kitchen one of them opened the refrigerator and I noticed some beer and wine. I was confused because I just repented and threw away all my weed and rock albums. The next day I asked the Christian lady who lead me to Jesus about the beer and wine at the family’s house and she said their compromising and that there should be no compromise as a follower of Jesus Christ.
Before I finally gave up alcohol, I was trying to find different groups of people in the Christian community to get away from my old party life. I joined many different groups at different churches, and started Bible studies and other group studies. I truly was searching for different connections. After a while, everybody starts to get comfortable, and I began to notice that they had certain groups that they would go to the bars or drink, and do Bible study together. Some could have a few some got drunk. I started to look at pastors as well who drink and other people comparing myself. Even though I know, it is my personal choice to drink it confused me and me personally compared myself and kept me stuck and I said to myself if they can drink, I can drink as well. I used all the verses that talked about drinking in the Bible, but I really didn’t understand them. I’m happy to say that I broke free from alcohol and now I’m a certified recovery coach. I also studied intensely for the past five years and I actually know what it does to you physically and spiritually. I can’t unlearn what I’ve learned over the years and I also have studied intensely how alcohol was used back in biblical times and how it was mixed with water extremely lower level than we drink today. Another point I want make is no one, including my own husband had any idea that I struggled with alcohol and none of these people knew either. I have felt lead in my business as a recovery coach to help those that are in hiding as well. Believe it or not you sit next to them in church, they are in ministry, they are our community, they have great jobs, their business owners, and they are parents.
He sounds like a "worldly" pastor.... like, don't call me out on my drinking and smoking weed, screw you!! Hmm. I'd have to think twice before going to his church. I do, however, think that...as Christians, we shouldn't be negatively gudging, pointing fingers and calling people's sin out when we're dealing with our own sins. Let's pray for each other and allow God to convict. It's the Holy Spirits job to convict, NOT ours.
Maria Arreola i think we are supposed to hold those in our fellowship accountable, so yeah calling out someone for sleeping with his mother and being proud of it (example from the bible) is exactly what we are supposed to do. and anything coming before God that becomes of idolatry falls under this.
@@latereply8825 and what are you struggling with so we can call you out to. Everyone struggles with something some Cristians hide it better. God don't like fake people be real.
He who is without sin cast the first stone . How can you see to take the splinter out of your brothers eye until you first remove the beam from you own 😊Love covers a multitude of sins . Love thy god with all your heart and love thy neighbor as thyself. These are the most important commandments Jesus said
He causeth the grass to grow for the cattle, and herb for the service of man: that he may bring forth food out of the earth; 15 And wine that maketh glad the heart of man, and oil to make his face to shine, and bread which strengtheneth man's heart. Psalm 104 verses 14 and 15. This is straight from the bible.
This is so bizarre! You can tell he's not really called to be a Pastor. He's just some random 'dude' that they picked out of the crowd, waved a magic wand and gave him a Pastor's title out of the blue. I don't see him even really using a Bible to preach. I can't take him seriously.
Wow, You really know so much about him from one clip? Go to www.flatironschurch.com/ and actually take the time to hear a full message before you pass such a harsh judgment. He teaches from the Bible every week and grounds his teachings in the Word. If you really are a follower of Christ please watch a teaching before talking like you know everything.
HAHA! Your poor thing, he's not on steroids. He's a very active Coloradan who works out multiple times a week to keep himself fit and healthy and reduce stress. Colorado is a very active state and this isn't uncommon here. John Trent had it correct - he's not that huge. He's around 6" and can hold is own, but I'm only 5'1" and don't feel tiny when I talk to him. Not to mention he pastors a pretty large church here and stress is a killer - a lot of pastors could learn from him to keep themselves healthy.
I had a girl tell me the other day, " i know how to drink a glass of wine and not be drunk but i dont know how to smoke weed and not be high." He's right, Jesus says don't be drunk. Similarly Jesus would say don't be high.
To be fair the Bible does comment on not making your brother stumble. If your brother views it as a sin to eat meat and he’s newer to his faith or doesn’t have as strong a foundation as you then it says don’t eat meat in front of him otherwise you could make him stumble. I thought that was very interesting, but I’m with you! God gave us alcohol/wine to enjoy! Even talks about it bubbling up joy in our hearts when we drink wine in the Old Testament. Moderation is key. Don’t drink to get drunk but drinking is totally acceptable. 🙏🙏🙏
for any weed smoker, there will be a day down the line where you wouldn't be enjoying it as much and would actually start to not be yourself and even miss being sober and enjoying life like ususal. You would miss sleeping like you used to, your anxiety and stress handling wouldn't be effective anymore and god forbid if you get Pyschosis.. point is, you would be quitting it after being disgusted about what it did to you. hence, don't get into Weed, its pretty addictive for you as a coping mechanism and to get that cheap domaine hit. Just wanted to share and helpfone left.note.
Smoked p0t for 15 years~; you're right, everything you listed was true for me. In a nutshell: I tried quitting for the last 2 years and failed every time until I gave my heart to Jesus, and he saved me from my misery. I can consume alcohol and caffeine in moderation but not weed, it's breaking my spirit. I'm all for making medicine out of it for people who need it, but I do not support getting high just for people to go down the same road as I did; being an addict.
Why drink alcohol but to get buzzed/drunk? You're telling me people drink beer instead of MtDew or Pepsi because of taste. Right. Everyone I know who says they don't get drunk actually do get drunk. All the time. And how is this revelation to the audience of acting like the rest of the world met? With thunderous applause, of course.
Well not sure where you are from but here in Colorado we have lots of micro breweries and most of my friends and people I know do drink for the taste. I do feel deeply sorry for you if all you have is coors and bud light.
There's a reason we pay more for GOOD TASTING beer... If it wasn't for taste we'd all be drinking steel reserve and four loko. Go about your boring life DisneyGator.
Hunter W Just because a prerequisite to your life being worth anything is the addition of alcohol doesn't mean we all can't have a good time without it.
Then why do they have all these craft beers that taste great and we enjoy to sip it with a steak and on the other hand this mass production swill that dumb people like to chug
My opinion: 1 Corinthians 10:23-24- You say, “I am allowed to do anything”-but not everything is good for you. You say, “I am allowed to do anything”-but not everything is beneficial. Don’t be concerned for your own good but for the good of others.
Kar Flow doesn’t mean that you and your spouse can’t enjoy a glass of wine together in your own home.. right? I won’t drink with my sister who is an addict .. The Holy Spirit made that clear to me..
Looking through the comments, it's very logical to assume atheists are in the same pool as Christians. I'm agnostic simply because I do not claim to know what's out there. Atheists bash Christians just as much as it is the other way around. This does not mean every atheist bashes a christian, but most do. Also not every Christian bashes atheists, but most do. It's all about strong beliefs. Sorry Christians, there is no way to prove God exists, but if you've went through a life change that has convinced you that he is real, then I'm happy that you have something to believe in. and also, Sorry Atheists, you can't prove God isn't real. Whether it's the Christian god or any other god, you have no idea. and you follow a theory just like Christians follow one. It's really no different. I just hate atheists who act like they're smarter than Christians because of having no religious faith.
Personally I think Atheists are more intelligent than Christians solely because they look at the facts before them and make logical decisions based on that, Christians on the other hand rely on mysticism and the teachings of their parents to make decisions about what they believe. I would also classify myself as an Agnostic just because I understand it is impossible to disprove god. But the so called God of Christianity is so full of hate and contempt that he can not be the creator of this world. Christianity is too contradictory and oxy-moronic. And if you look at the history of Christianity through the middle ages do you really think that man had not tainted the "holy book" at some point. Personally I think we as Humans would be better off if we just forgot about silly ancient beliefs and used common sense to evaluate the facts before our eyes. After all what has religion done for us? Some of the worst atrocities in history have been in the name of 'god' (the Crusades, The holocaust, The Thirty Years War, The Salem Witch hunts, I could go on for hours)
Do you mean the logical decision that there is no god? in order for an atheist to definitively know that god does not exist, would mean the atheists is omnipotent (all knowing) thus making the atheist god. Do you see a dilemma?
You got it right Pastor Jim. As usual not everyone agrees with you but they should stop their criticism and come and see how our church is a loving caring church of misfit toys! Lol ..... Absolutely love everything about Flatirons Church.
Thank the fuckin fuck. I will never say weed is a bad thing. At all period. It was put here for good reason by the most high himself. Like I'm not slow af. But yeah a lot of f parents children would not be going through so much shift if they got them med weed like epilepsy.
The bible tells us to keep a sober mind for our protection due to unseen principalities and spirits. This video is a resounding no for me. Also, this pastor is struggling with the spirit of anxiety. I rebuke that spirit in the name of Jesus
When I drink I so easily get into my habit of a 40 oz or 2 a night after work. I go a month without and think I can do it moderately and continue to fall into my old patterns. It would be nice if I wasnt that way and could enjoy a social drink sometimes but I am growing wise to my destructive patterns. I am such a lite weed smoker I didnt think it was a problem but I realized last time I did it with people around I just don't talk more than like 1 word. I can see how that could limit me from sharing the goodness of God so I am really trying to let God make me a new creation in Him and be more sober for His glory. I think it's more just a personal issue like maybe its ok for some people but more times than not its bad and can be hard to not lie to yourself and justify doing bad things because our flesh is desiring it.
Do you believe that God does not sometimes heal through medicine? Up until just 1 or 2 hundred years ago all medicine was taken by consuming plants that contained that medicine.
"Screw that"? REALLY? Uh, yeah. SUPER enslaved in a reprobate mind. The Holy Spirit doesn't indwell in people who get high. Only those who want to be sober-minded and have their mind renewed the born again POWER of the Holy Spirit and the WORD of GOD. Blessings to KNOW Jesus BEFORE it's too late!🙋 💔👣👣💖 P.S. Jesus IS fun!
The one thing I don't agree with is why play with fire? It's clear that we are to flee from temptation, so why drink and risk getting drunk? Why put yourself in the situation, as for the marijuana if it's medical it's not the same as doing it for recreation. Personally I don't think he got it right, but he has his right to his opinion as well, and yes that is what this is an opinion. 2 Timothy 2:22-24Contemporary English Version (CEV) 22 Run from temptations that capture young people. Always do the right thing. Be faithful, loving, and easy to get along with. Worship with people whose hearts are pure. 23 Stay away from stupid and senseless arguments. These only lead to trouble, 24 and God’s servants must not be troublemakers. They must be kind to everyone, and they must be good teachers and very patient.
Hi I just want to say that my pastor is a good teacher and that 90 seconds taken out of context is not going to change my mind. I will like you to listen to the whole message and then make a seances able judgment thank. God Bless.
Christopher Chapa Watch the entire sermon before you are quick to draw your conclusions. Also, Jesus hung out with drunks but you don't read (or take) anywhere in the Bible that says Jesus ran from them because he was afraid of getting drunk. If you heard the entire 90 second clip then you would have heard him use the words "in moderation". Get your facts straight before you make such a logical fallacy.
I am not saying anything bad about him or anything? If you read my comment correctly I was stating my personal opinion and I don't live in fear of being around people who do and ministering I have friends that are drug users, dealers and alcoholics and I minister to them by not treating them any different but not encouraging them to continue to do what they do. And as far as logistical fallacy you're pretty quick to respond to my comment as if I was saying what he is preaching is evil or isn't in the bible it's my personal opinion. I personally don't agree with it, but I'm not going to go around and try and start arguments and saying that someone is making, "such a logical fallacy." If anything that's the one thing why people look down on Christianity because we (notice I said WE which in includes myself and not a particular persons) take offense and believe we understand the bible more than the person next to us, and feel like we have a right to tear the person down. My comment was not intended for an argument it was a different view, I am not fearful of those environments it's a different perspective I did not say that he is preaching false gospel or call blasphemy it's the way the bible is interpreted to him, and if that's what he wants to stand by then by all means I will not shoot a person down on what they believe or perceive to be right because that is not my place, God will give us the answers in the very end. I don't see any purpose in fighting on youtube with another believer, I just don't agree with that period. But he is still a brother in Christ and I'm praying for him not because I believe he is preaching a false gospel because he is a pastor and will be judged with more responsibility than others. I pray God uses him to expand His kingdom and gives him wisdom and leadership.
I want to see the rest of this sermon before I say that he never opens the bible or that he does or does not use Scripture correctly. You should never judge what anyone says based off of a 50 second clip of a video.. not saying this guy is 100 percent correct but we have to see and hear the whole message first
yes! I go to flatirons church and pastor jim is great. If you people who are just judging right away thinking wow this guys a horrible pastor were actually there and heard/saw the whole thing you would understand exactly what he was saying
Please take the time to listen to the entire message before you pass judgment on someone. And his statement is true. As a christian if it doesn't come from scripture then it is just empty religion. So many Christians try to feel so righteous by adding burdens to others that are not scriptural. Again, if you dare call yourself a believer please listen to his entire message before looking down your nose at him.
Psalm 104: 14He makes grass grow for the cattle, and plants for people to cultivate- bringing forth food from the earth: 15 wine that gladdens human hearts, oil to make their faces shine, and bread that sustains their hearts.
A lot of people don't realize that they used to mix alcohol with their water to kill bacteria and make the water safe to drink back in the time of Jesus you didn't drink it to get drunk you drunk it to survive of course there has always been alcoholics but when Jesus turned water into wine it wasn't so everybody can get shit-faced it was so he could make the water pure and safe for the guests of the wedding to drink
@@josephatnip2398 That is only partially true... Jesus did NOT simply make "wine tainted water" to make it "aseptic". Good aged high potency wine was common during wedding festivals as it was seen as a blessing to the hearts of the guests. Remember the master of the feast's speech? Other men would set out the "good wine" FIRST and after, when men are well drunk, THEN the "inferior"! But during THAT feast the BEST WINE(most perfectly aged and well fermented) was kept til the last moment. Look at the language structure and the uses in context of the word "wine"_"oinos"(G3631) and the word "drunk"_"methyo`". Look at their Greek definitions, uses in scripture as well as the context in which they are used. First. let's look at the passage "John 2:10", the wedding miracle at Cana... Let's state the context for the partial scripture of John 2:10 before taking a look at this study. Jesus had just commanded His disciples to fill the water pots with water and draw out the water, which Jesus turned to wine, and bring it to the master of the feast... "And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good *WINE* ; and when men have *WELL DRUNK* , then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good *WINE* until now." John 2:10 Let's focus first on the word "wine" which comes from the Greek word "oinos"(G3631). Oinos[G3631]-- primary word (wine) , from Hebrew origin "yayin" H3196-- to effervesce by quality of fermentation. Alcohol, wine, winebibber. To further understand this word, let us look at the uses of this word in scripture. We will look at three passages. "And be not drunk with *WINE* , wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit..." Ephesians 5:18 Same word, oinos(G3631) used in a command by Paul to NOT be intoxicated with wine. "And no man putteth new *WINE* into old bottles: else the new *WINE* doth burst the bottles, and the *WINE* is spilled, and the bottles will be marred: but new *WINE* must be put into new bottles." Mark 2:22 Same word "oinos" used in a parable about the new covenant using the symbology of wine's fermenting qualities. This is illustrated by the fact that "the bottles BURST" from the alcoholic fermentation qualities... "For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither *WINE* nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb." Luke 1:15 Same word "oinos" used here as a command for John the baptist's lifestyle of abstaining from intoxicating beverages as a prophet to prepare the Messiah's path before Him... Next, we will look at the word "drunk" in John 2:10. Drunk G3184: methyo: to drink to intoxication, get drunk. To make or be made drunken. see 1 Corinthians 5:11(methysos) " But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a *DRUNKARD* , or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat." 1 Corinthians 5:11 Drunkard "Methysos" G3183(from root word methyo "G3184") : Tipsy, a sot. Drunkard/alcoholic.(see John 2:10)
I smoked half my life and the day i gave my life to christ he divinely delivered me from the addicted bondage of smoking weed constantly everyday of my life for many years! I didn’t even pray about it- all i did was answer a alter call to give my life to christ and be born again. The Lord took all desires of wanting to smoke weed so i think as a pastor you are leading many astray by your statements. You need to seek the Holy spirit on that topic and he will lead u to the truth! Medical weed is so different than what u include in your statements- the two are not the same at all
1 Peter 4:3, "For we have spent enough of our past lifetime in doing the will of the nations - when we walked in lewdness, lusts, vain drinking, wild parties, drinkings, and abominable idolatries."
His idea is not Gods idea..... reguardless if you think his idea is good or bad. Doesn’t take away from the fact that Gods Right all the time and this guy ain’t.
Most people on here don't agree with the religion, and neither do I. But bashing this man for believing in something makes no sense. He can believe whatever the hell he wants to believe, just like you dont have to believe anything. Also there is nothing wrong with religion in its proper form. A lot of good has been done in the name of religion. And its also nice for them to have something to help get them through the day whether its imaginary or not. Do you see all these kids at Comicon who dress up as their favorite anime characters? Some of these kids actually live as if they were in those characters shoes and it helps them in life somehow. Its all about perspective and respect. Respect his views on religion, and your views will also be respected.
First time encountering a BLATANTLY OBVIOUS FEEL GOOD "PASTOR" ruin his testimony in under 2 minutes can you say REPROBATE!? people this is a false prophet through and through I'd run the opposite way! He directs the sheep into hellfire
It is 2018, you don’t need to drink booze in any form. Don’t contribute to an industry that’s ruining many families; be wise Drink lemonade or grape juice!
Understanding Jesus is so simple. Doing it is boring, and maybe even feel like a dork. The fruits are awesome though. Look at it like this. Being bad or mean leads to a verbal altercation. A verbal altercation leads to a scuffle. A scuffle leads to manslaugter. Manslaughter is allmost or the same as murder. You either go to jail or have to explain people it was an accident, and they would have to believe you, maybe doubt you. Plus that you could have lost the fight. That could all have been prevented by being nice and understanding, even if you didn't understand, you did'nt escalate. Usually, better meak for a week, than dead or in jail for life. Letting someone keep their natural teeth makes you the best dentist in the world. So that is a great gift. Very great gift. Makes you a great guy.
Bible only talks about alcohol not weed. I smoke weed for over 25 years had no problem with it. There's a place and time for every thing. Be responsible put God first above all. Every person might or have different experiences with it.
Hi, I'm from /r/atheism over at the little community known as Reddit (it's quite small and humble, you probably haven't heard of it). I would just like to point out for any non intellectuals who might not have realised/are not well learned. But this is a pastor, he represents Pastafarianism which is a mock/satirical religion created by Reddit! Seriously go look it up, this isn't MEANT to be serious, this is satire as is Pastafarianism and the PASTA who is representing it in this video. If you would like to learn more kind sirs and m'lady's please check out fellow like minded Redditors over and reddit.com /r/atheism. A sanctuary for the intelectuals and power thinkers/think tanks of our modern age *tip of the hat fine sirs*
Shimmy. If you listen to what his messages regularly, you will see that you are quite incorrect. From this tiny clip, all he said is that the Bible doesn't tell you not to every drink alcohol and that weed isn't always bad. He doesn't believe in recreational drug use and you can't even get that from the clip - he said that he won't make a blanket statement about it but he has stated, many times, from the stage, that smoking weed isn't that wise, but it has it's place. That's called logic, not Pastafarianism. He is not light hearted about the Bible, Jesus, Christianity - he is VERY passionate about it. This clip is from a message on how Christian beat each other up with legalism and that's wrong, too.
You got it wrong pastor, you leave alot for interpretation and risk that someone may fall in the hole you're creating. When you truly follow and love God Jesus Christ, your life is not boring. He gives you the Holy spirit and you find joy in other ways.... I invite you to follow HIM, you are still leaving in tbe flesh and you shouldn't be a pastor!!!
Sad that the wrong teachings on alcohol has led to the church messing up the holy communion. Wine which represents the blood of Jesus has been replaced by juice. In the result the thing we call holy communion is no longer holy communion and doesn't serve its purpose at all. How can it be holy communion when the blood of Jesus is not there. Thanks a lot pastor.
Why do so many people turn to some pastor or other person for the truth? If you desire truth then you MUST read Gods Word for yourself and then decide what you believe. Dont just blindly listen to any man. Read your KJV Bible and research the scriptures for truth.
And why does it have to be the KJV? Is that because it is the one that Catholics approved? Why not read The Complete Jewish Bible which has more of the actual words from the actual language of that time? Why have Christians accepted the pagan holidays and Christianize them? Is YHWH honored with the fact that we have taken away the Jewishness of Yeshua and made him into a blue eyed, blonde haired white guy? Why do Christians insist on obeying the 9 commandments, and yet keeping the Sabbath day as a day of rest is under the law. And yes, I am a believer who refuses to call themselves a christian and I read the word for myself and have deprogrammed myself from the organized religion in general. I am a believer and follower of Yeshua, not in man or man's dogma
When i first got saved i used to still smoke and drink but not as much. Overtime i kept getting convicted because in 1 Peter 5:8 he told us “to stay sober minded at all times, becuase the devil waits to devour you”
Hhmmm....it's interesting there are quite a few comments by atheists on here who support this man. Evidently The Holy Spirit isn't dwelling, if it was atheists wouldn't be in support of anything being said.
That's not true at all. There are many areas of agreement between atheists and Christianity, just as there are many areas where the opposite is clearly true. The fact is, in my Bible, in the Book of John, it clearly describes the First Miracle, where Jesus turned water into wine for wedding guests who were ALREADY DRUNK. Now does that mean it's okay to get drunk? No, but I think it means it's not a mortal sin. I think this stunning miracle was mentioned first just to show how absurd and legalistic anyone is who says NO NEVER can a Christian drink.
What's the point of drinking in moderation? Scripture doesn't say drink in moderation and you will be alright. It says drink a little wine for thy stomachs sake for the often infirmities
HE LOST ME AT, "SCREW THE REST." OH! SO WHEN WE DON'T LIKE WHAT SOMEONE DOES TO US, LET US STAND IN OUR CHURCH BUILDING DURING A PREACHING TIME & USE THE LANGUAGE OF THE UNSAVED WORLD TO COMMUNICATE OUR POSITION! NO WAY!
Why everyone got to keep demonizing the word religion. Without religion there would be no Christians. Religion is merely a path one walks. Case and point the path the deciples walked with Jesus when He say "follow me"
Same as caffeine, nicotine, pain meds, alphabet desease meds, heart meds, digestive meds, etc... the drug is not the sin, the use of can be... what about being "drunk" on the holy spirit?.. or being "high" on JESUS?..
It almost feels like he's trying to justify something that another person's relationship with Jesus might steer them away from. I do take the message as innocuous to people with discernment.
It was apart of my daily life until I came to the word of God. I actually never thought I could quit, but as my heart was changed, so were my habits. And I'm still working on bad habits everyday. I understand that I will never be perfect, but I must keeping seeking and walking towards the light. Seeking first his kingdom.
Still going strong?
@@bbyboybrzy yessir. Can I get an Amen!
@@zbs28 amen brother 🙏🏽🙏🏽
@@zbs28 🎉🎉🎉
Bro u r helping me thank u 4 shareing man I needed this bad bro ik I'm 6 years late an a dollar short but God told u 2 right this years ago so it could reach me an many others like me love u in Christ brother hope your doing good now a days
If people are worried about alcohol and pot being bad for you, what about obesity? Where are the self righteous Christians on that issue?
Or what about gossip in the church? What about divorce? And I could go on and on
Thank you! You can be drunk on money power and food.
Obese and gluttony are two different things my friend.
It's all part of gluttony
Obesity is closely associated with drunkenness in the Bible and they both should be view in the same light. (See Deuteronomy 21:20; Proverbs 23:21)
So your point is very well taken and confirms the reality of the problem of obesity and drunkenness in this country.
In the United States, 36.5 percent of adults are obese. Another 32.5 percent of American adults are overweight. In all, more than two-thirds of adults in the United States are overweight or obese.
Alcohol is the most commonly used addictive substance in the United States.
More than half of all adults have a family history of alcoholism or problem drinking, and more than 7 million children live in a household where at least one parent is dependent on or has abused alcohol.
"Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering, and wantonness, not in strife and envying. But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfill the lusts thereof." Romans 13:13,14
Matthew 10:22 "and you will be hated by all for my name's sake. But the one who endures to the end will be saved."
He causeth the grass to grow for the cattle, and herb for the service of man: that he may bring forth food out of the earth; And wine that maketh glad the heart of man, and oil to make his face to shine, and bread which strengtheneth man's heart.
Psalms 104:14-15 KJV
Just for those that do smoke. Sin is personal.
@@locuscades1906wym? Is it a sin to smoke weed?
@@xIsraelite777 Im quitting weed. Im 3 days in. 1 Peter 5:8 , Be Sober , Be vigilant. For your enemy the Devil roams the Earth like a Lion looking for someone to devour. I mean it says be sober so I’m gonna take it literal. Ya know. We’re suppose to submit. Not make God work with our flesh wants
this guy definetly does some reps for jesus
Mitch Wall Is that a bro science reference? lolol
this guys is the example of how a christian should live.
this goes to show christianity is NOT about stupid rules and regulations, and we as christians hate religious rules and can't stand rule ridden religious people.
all christianity is about is: living like Jesus. coming as you are, broken, hurt, and letting love have the first place in your life. thats it. the christians that actually understand this and live it out are so hated and it just boggles my mind how people hate on someone that just displays love. nobody ever said christians are perfect people and whoever believes that has a completely wrong and distorted view of christianity.
Jesus hating religion. the pharisees were religious and a bunch of rule nazis and Jesus cursed them
ha, classic.
we don't sacrifice goats. I can pray while I use the computer.
if you want an escape from us "lunatics", which we are,
don't watch these kinds of videos...
it's simple.
gcollin75
@@gcollin75 jesus was the sacrifice (the lamb that was slain) we dont need to do such practices any more
I'm sure your comment is well intended, but I was hoping I could kindly point out some scriptural inaccuracies in it. I don't mean offense but am hoping you'll appreciate these biblical truths being brought to your attention.
#1 Regarding the pharisees, Jesus actually said, "You must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach." (Matt 23). Jesus was against hypocrisy, not rule following.
#2 Jesus said, "If you love me, keep my commandments" (John 14:15). His core commandment was repentance (Matt 4:17).
#3 Christianity is religion (James 1:27) and it requires following rules to remain "unstained by the world."
#4 Jesus said "But you are to be perfect, even as your Father in heaven is perfect" (Matt 5:48).
#5 You said we should just live as Jesus did, which is true, but you have to remember that He managed to obey every single rule of the old covenant law. Some people today preach that Jesus ignored the Mosaic law, and that is why the pharisees hated him. However, the only thing he disregarded was their unloving, man made corruption of God's laws. It was necessary for Christ to obey the law perfectly in order to become the perfect sacrifice and destroy the power of death and sin (Hebrews 10).
I pray this is helpful to you. God bless.
@@flickering_wick Very well said! Tony Evans, John McArthur, & Paul Washer are the most biblical and eloquently discerning ministers I've heard. And they all agree with you!
Forgive us Heavenly Father for the things that we do not know
Beautiful testimony. Weed cured my depression and make me realise everything said by real Christian’s is true. Jesus Christ is real and he loves every human being and his principles for life lead to happiness and fulfilment!!! ✝️✝️❤ I will try my best to quit now with gods help as I no longer need it
Thanks Pastor Jim for bringing this up today!! Had a good laugh. I know how social media can be blown out of proportion. You rock!!
I Don’t think so. It’s your witness. If you witness to an alcoholic and they see you consuming alcohol and it causes them to fall back into it because you sir said screw it,s okay, you are responsible if that person goes back to drinking cause my pastor said screw, it’s okay. Get it straight. WRONG! That’s the problem when people say it okay, when clearly one sip leads to many others. WRONG!!!!😢👎🏻🤬
He causeth the grass to grow for the cattle, and herb for the service of man: that he may bring forth food out of the earth; And wine that maketh glad the heart of man, and oil to make his face to shine, and bread which strengtheneth man's heart.
Psalms 104:14-15 KJV
Thank you.
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God bless
Wht tht gotta do with cannabis?
@@KingXai4lIt’s an “herb”
“Screw it”....
said Jesus never.
HOLLERIN....BUT TRUEEE
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when it comes to ideas that are not from God he did
For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
alehug amen
Yup, This type of teaching is dangerous
It is dangerous for weak minded folks !!!@@Vinz.777
@infamousgrizzly1358 So you're basically saying Jesus Christ encourages people to smoke? And to consume alcohol?
Are you saying Jesus drank alcohol? Will alcohol or Smoking be allowed in heaven?
There are numerous biblical verses that you could twist to say that the Bible supports such.
However in Matthew 26:27-29 - Either Jesus is saying Alcohol is ok now and will be in heaven when he comes again or he didn't drink alcohol to begin with.
@infamousgrizzly1358 Same thing with pedophelia no scripture addresses it , the world does... Just saying 🤷🏼
Im an atheist in Lafayette and I still go see pastor Jim during his services
This is telling'
Why
What do you get out of his sermons?
Why???
If you are willfully going to service to learn about Jesus Christ and Almighty God then you can't be an atheist
You know, when you realize that the problem he describes, the issues/things he is "done with" are so wide spread, its easy to see why atheists tend to hate Christians, because we have such a jacked up and confusing view, we preach Jesus and then "teach" man made rules and they don't mesh well very often at all, I wish I could have been at this Church to hear that entire message, its this attitude that gives me hope, as someone who grew up in church and even attended ministry school, I'm right there with this Pastor, I could type paragraphs explaining all the nuances but I'll just say AMEN instead
@Hello there, how are you doing this blessed day?
be sober and vigilant...
Let’s see how close we can get to Christ and not how much we can get away with.
Some people are intoxicated with religion. Weed sets my meandering thoughts straight. It helps me to love God and others without me being tied up in my own head, and such love fulfills the entire law. It's a crime that such medicine is illegal in some states
@@jeremyfrancispiano2 marijuana is Gods medicine. It saved my life literally. So did Jesus lol. But people that are against marijuana have honestly been brainwashed by the propaganda the government has made people believe.
This pastor is wrong that recreational marijuana is ok. Wolves in sheep's clothing
This audience has itchy ears. He is so wrong. Marijuana is a sin
Did he say anything about recreational marijuana? No! He clearly stated the marijuana for medical purposes is not a sin. Listen again...
@@generalhorseplay6153God did not create this plant as a sin. Everything god made is good. if the use of this plant makes you look at people with disgust, ask yourself if you are being sinful for choosing to be disgusted in the first place. Real sin is disgusting, and almost always obvious
While The bible does not say that drinking alcohol is a sin, rather getting drunk is, We should not be eager to indulge in something that could lead us into an altered state of mind. What's the point of drinking alcohol if you're not wanting to get a buzz? If you like the taste so much, drink the non alcoholic kind. Sometimes as humans we live with the mindset of " how much can I get away with and still go to heaven". This is a terrible mindset seeing we are to consider those around us who are weak and are not able to stop at one drink. Why drink something that has assisted in the deaths of countless people through car accidents, suicides, rapes, murders etc. Paul said in the New Testament "all things are lawful, but all things are not expedient" which simply means that as a Christian there are a lot of things we can do, but all things are not wise to do. This is not to condemn those that do, rather God's desire is that we seek to live a life that honors God in all things.
Well said. I agree with you.
ME TOO!
Great comment, but are you basing you're comment out of this clip that is being taken out of context or did you listen to the whole message?
Amen!!!!
What about wine? Jesus himself turned the water into wine.
Smoking marijuana wasn't a part of the message of Jesus Christ. Christ wasn't about smoking marijuana, neither were His disciples. Smoking marijuana is a sin. Defiling the temple of God. God's word tells us to be sober. Being stoned is not sober. Then he ends his so called sermon by saying screw it. Those are the words that people say right before they get stoned because they are not living in God's reality.
Mighty judgmental there friend
@@kevingreaux7133 my friend, most people who smoke cannabis are sober minded. Be sober & vigilant is talking about don’t do hard drugs or drink alcohol.
You see, Cannabis “Canabus” translation in ancient text. Was a herb bearing seed used by Egyptian ancestors in the ancient times. Cannabis was used ta heal wounds, the sick, those with incurable diseases etc.
I have tics. Tourette’s syndrome. Plus I have had my fare share of depression too. Marijuana cannabis saved my life completely. & I honestly believe that God provided me with a medicine that he made.
If smokeing marijuana is such a “sin”
Then how come everyone in the Bible was getting drunk with wine & committing sin? That’s something ta look intoo…
Our mind was made for knowing Jesus. Pot hinders that. Therefore it's a Sin. Some people are lovers of pleasure more than lovers of God
Cannabis (translation “Canabus”) was mentioned as a herb bearing seed. I understand mainstream Christian’s are against it. But seriously, you should be against someone drinking a bunch. & yes there were alcoholics in the Bible. Wasn’t Noah a drunk?
Ta be against marijuana is like ta be against the movie actor ya claim ta love so much. Like seriously.
Wow a religious person with rational thinking skills... I didn't think they existed.
They don't. He wouldn't be religious otherwise.
Not very open minded I guess
Certain things have nothing to do with open mindedness. A flat earth doesn't actually exist regardless of how open minded you are to the idea.
It seems like we are getting to the point where Christians can do what they want say what they want act how they want and its all good . Paul and all of them did not live that way, they where ready to die for the Gospel we have really became weak. No matter the doctrine anymore. I have to say its sad 😢 even for myself i would love to get back to my first love ❤. What happened to believing that Jesus could heal like he did in the word , and even how he told his disciples to do it. Go and heal the sick , raise the dead and cast out devils. We've lost our power as the church that God gave us through the Holy Ghost 🔥😢😢😢. What happened to Acts 2:17 ?
I have serious medical issues due to a bad car accident and can’t due much if anything without smoking.
why do you spread untruths about alcohol, and drugs? pot is a gateway drug, and alcohol is spirits, not good!!!you belong to the world, peace.
Many years ago when I first got saved a Christian family invited me to their house for dinner, in the kitchen one of them opened the refrigerator and I noticed some beer and wine. I was confused because I just repented and threw away all my weed and rock albums. The next day I asked the Christian lady who lead me to Jesus about the beer and wine at the family’s house and she said their compromising and that there should be no compromise as a follower of Jesus Christ.
Before I finally gave up alcohol, I was trying to find different groups of people in the Christian community to get away from my old party life. I joined many different groups at different churches, and started Bible studies and other group studies. I truly was searching for different connections. After a while, everybody starts to get comfortable, and I began to notice that they had certain groups that they would go to the bars or drink, and do Bible study together. Some could have a few some got drunk. I started to look at pastors as well who drink and other people comparing myself. Even though I know, it is my personal choice to drink it confused me and me personally compared myself and kept me stuck and I said to myself if they can drink, I can drink as well. I used all the verses that talked about drinking in the Bible, but I really didn’t understand them. I’m happy to say that I broke free from alcohol and now I’m a certified recovery coach. I also studied intensely for the past five years and I actually know what it does to you physically and spiritually. I can’t unlearn what I’ve learned over the years and I also have studied intensely how alcohol was used back in biblical times and how it was mixed with water extremely lower level than we drink today. Another point I want make is no one, including my own husband had any idea that I struggled with alcohol and none of these people knew either. I have felt lead in my business as a recovery coach to help those that are in hiding as well. Believe it or not you sit next to them in church, they are in ministry, they are our community, they have great jobs, their business owners, and they are parents.
He sounds like a "worldly" pastor.... like, don't call me out on my drinking and smoking weed, screw you!! Hmm. I'd have to think twice before going to his church. I do, however, think that...as Christians, we shouldn't be negatively gudging, pointing fingers and calling people's sin out when we're dealing with our own sins. Let's pray for each other and allow God to convict. It's the Holy Spirits job to convict, NOT ours.
Maria Arreola i think we are supposed to hold those in our fellowship accountable, so yeah calling out someone for sleeping with his mother and being proud of it (example from the bible) is exactly what we are supposed to do. and anything coming before God that becomes of idolatry falls under this.
@@latereply8825 and what are you struggling with so we can call you out to. Everyone struggles with something some Cristians hide it better. God don't like fake people be real.
He who is without sin cast the first stone . How can you see to take the splinter out of your brothers eye until you first remove the beam from you own 😊Love covers a multitude of sins . Love thy god with all your heart and love thy neighbor as thyself. These are the most important commandments Jesus said
He causeth the grass to grow for the cattle, and herb for the service of man: that he may bring forth food out of the earth; 15 And wine that maketh glad the heart of man, and oil to make his face to shine, and bread which strengtheneth man's heart.
Psalm 104 verses 14 and 15. This is straight from the bible.
This is so bizarre! You can tell he's not really called to be a Pastor. He's just some random 'dude' that they picked out of the crowd, waved a magic wand and gave him a Pastor's title out of the blue. I don't see him even really using a Bible to preach. I can't take him seriously.
Wow, You really know so much about him from one clip? Go to www.flatironschurch.com/ and actually take the time to hear a full message before you pass such a harsh judgment. He teaches from the Bible every week and grounds his teachings in the Word. If you really are a follower of Christ please watch a teaching before talking like you know everything.
What did Jesus say about steroids?
you must be a twig who thinks everyone with muscles uses roids
amazing what you juice heads can do sometimes. (talk shit)
Abdul Nur FU. guy is juiced to fuck wtf?
I think he'd be more ripped if he did Steroids. Don't get me wrong he is sure as heck ripped but I mean come on if he had help he'd be huge.
HAHA! Your poor thing, he's not on steroids. He's a very active Coloradan who works out multiple times a week to keep himself fit and healthy and reduce stress. Colorado is a very active state and this isn't uncommon here. John Trent had it correct - he's not that huge. He's around 6" and can hold is own, but I'm only 5'1" and don't feel tiny when I talk to him. Not to mention he pastors a pretty large church here and stress is a killer - a lot of pastors could learn from him to keep themselves healthy.
THATS MY CHURCH! WOOOO!
Just got back from it today... I love Pastor Jim :D
Did you listen to Eminem on the way back home?
Maybe, maybe not. ;)
me too. hes great
Me Too...just come and see
Matt 7: 13-28. KJ
Be Holy
I had a girl tell me the other day, " i know how to drink a glass of wine and not be drunk but i dont know how to smoke weed and not be high." He's right, Jesus says don't be drunk. Similarly Jesus would say don't be high.
Most pastors never talk about cigarettes and yet pot is the devil in plant form most of the time
Ridiculous
@@FortniteOG420 isn’t it ridiculous? The world is ok with smokeing cigarettes but not marijuana. Wtf is up with that?
To be fair the Bible does comment on not making your brother stumble. If your brother views it as a sin to eat meat and he’s newer to his faith or doesn’t have as strong a foundation as you then it says don’t eat meat in front of him otherwise you could make him stumble. I thought that was very interesting, but I’m with you! God gave us alcohol/wine to enjoy! Even talks about it bubbling up joy in our hearts when we drink wine in the Old Testament. Moderation is key. Don’t drink to get drunk but drinking is totally acceptable. 🙏🙏🙏
for any weed smoker, there will be a day down the line where you wouldn't be enjoying it as much and would actually start to not be yourself and even miss being sober and enjoying life like ususal. You would miss sleeping like you used to, your anxiety and stress handling wouldn't be effective anymore and god forbid if you get Pyschosis.. point is, you would be quitting it after being disgusted about what it did to you.
hence, don't get into Weed, its pretty addictive for you as a coping mechanism and to get that cheap domaine hit. Just wanted to share and helpfone left.note.
IDK, what is really important is knowing yourself and knowing what you can and cant have control over.
Smoked p0t for 15 years~; you're right, everything you listed was true for me. In a nutshell: I tried quitting for the last 2 years and failed every time until I gave my heart to Jesus, and he saved me from my misery.
I can consume alcohol and caffeine in moderation but not weed, it's breaking my spirit. I'm all for making medicine out of it for people who need it, but I do not support getting high just for people to go down the same road as I did; being an addict.
@@medoz7331 i am glad spiritual path saved you my friend, it saved me as well!
Why drink alcohol but to get buzzed/drunk? You're telling me people drink beer instead of MtDew or Pepsi because of taste. Right. Everyone I know who says they don't get drunk actually do get drunk. All the time. And how is this revelation to the audience of acting like the rest of the world met? With thunderous applause, of course.
Well not sure where you are from but here in Colorado we have lots of micro breweries and most of my friends and people I know do drink for the taste. I do feel deeply sorry for you if all you have is coors and bud light.
There's a reason we pay more for GOOD TASTING beer... If it wasn't for taste we'd all be drinking steel reserve and four loko. Go about your boring life DisneyGator.
Hunter W
Just because a prerequisite to your life being worth anything is the addition of alcohol doesn't mean we all can't have a good time without it.
"You're telling me people drink beer instead of MtDew or Pepsi because of taste." - Yes.
Then why do they have all these craft beers that taste great and we enjoy to sip it with a steak and on the other hand this mass production swill that dumb people like to chug
My opinion:
1 Corinthians 10:23-24- You say, “I am allowed to do anything”-but not everything is good for you. You say, “I am allowed to do anything”-but not everything is beneficial. Don’t be concerned for your own good but for the good of others.
Kar Flow doesn’t mean that you and your spouse can’t enjoy a glass of wine together in your own home.. right? I won’t drink with my sister who is an addict .. The Holy Spirit made that clear to me..
Looking through the comments, it's very logical to assume atheists are in the same pool as Christians. I'm agnostic simply because I do not claim to know what's out there. Atheists bash Christians just as much as it is the other way around. This does not mean every atheist bashes a christian, but most do. Also not every Christian bashes atheists, but most do. It's all about strong beliefs. Sorry Christians, there is no way to prove God exists, but if you've went through a life change that has convinced you that he is real, then I'm happy that you have something to believe in. and also, Sorry Atheists, you can't prove God isn't real. Whether it's the Christian god or any other god, you have no idea. and you follow a theory just like Christians follow one. It's really no different. I just hate atheists who act like they're smarter than Christians because of having no religious faith.
Personally I think Atheists are more intelligent than Christians solely because they look at the facts before them and make logical decisions based on that, Christians on the other hand rely on mysticism and the teachings of their parents to make decisions about what they believe. I would also classify myself as an Agnostic just because I understand it is impossible to disprove god. But the so called God of Christianity is so full of hate and contempt that he can not be the creator of this world. Christianity is too contradictory and oxy-moronic. And if you look at the history of Christianity through the middle ages do you really think that man had not tainted the "holy book" at some point. Personally I think we as Humans would be better off if we just forgot about silly ancient beliefs and used common sense to evaluate the facts before our eyes. After all what has religion done for us? Some of the worst atrocities in history have been in the name of 'god' (the Crusades, The holocaust, The Thirty Years War, The Salem Witch hunts, I could go on for hours)
Do you mean the logical decision that there is no god? in order for an atheist to definitively know that god does not exist, would mean the atheists is omnipotent (all knowing) thus making the atheist god. Do you see a dilemma?
You got it right Pastor Jim. As usual not everyone agrees with you but they should stop their criticism and come and see how our church is a loving caring church of misfit toys! Lol ..... Absolutely love everything about Flatirons Church.
Thank you for promoting alternatives treatment for the children with epilepsy.
Thank the fuckin fuck. I will never say weed is a bad thing. At all period. It was put here for good reason by the most high himself. Like I'm not slow af. But yeah a lot of f parents children would not be going through so much shift if they got them med weed like epilepsy.
Jim Burgen really enjoyed your comments about the "roids" since his two hours everyday at the gym is really paying off!
"Come to Jesus and he will tell me how to live my life" Amen Brother, Amen!
The bible tells us to keep a sober mind for our protection due to unseen principalities and spirits. This video is a resounding no for me. Also, this pastor is struggling with the spirit of anxiety. I rebuke that spirit in the name of Jesus
Eh, anxiety isn't a "spirit". It's a chemical imbalance in the brain. Confusing the two causes more harm than help.
@@thetolkienblackguy963 anxiety is definitely a spirit because I use to have it severely. When I found God.. all of that changed.
When I drink I so easily get into my habit of a 40 oz or 2 a night after work. I go a month without and think I can do it moderately and continue to fall into my old patterns. It would be nice if I wasnt that way and could enjoy a social drink sometimes but I am growing wise to my destructive patterns. I am such a lite weed smoker I didnt think it was a problem but I realized last time I did it with people around I just don't talk more than like 1 word. I can see how that could limit me from sharing the goodness of God so I am really trying to let God make me a new creation in Him and be more sober for His glory. I think it's more just a personal issue like maybe its ok for some people but more times than not its bad and can be hard to not lie to yourself and justify doing bad things because our flesh is desiring it.
I like Cannabis and I only vape or eat it. No health issues for me! I also use it like medication and respect.
Same
Haven't tried edibles tho
“Gets it right?”- advocating medical marijuana and alcohol?
What happened to trusting and living for God?
Do you believe that God does not sometimes heal through medicine? Up until just 1 or 2 hundred years ago all medicine was taken by consuming plants that contained that medicine.
I LOVE PASTOR JIM.! (: & I LOVE MY FALTIRONS CHURCH.!
PRICELESS PREACH IT BROTHER
Lol this guy just wants to drink beer and smoke weed.
The blind leading the blind. Weed isn't medicine. Your body is the temple of the Lord don't put garbage in it.
Preach what they want to hear and they will show up and give $$$$!!!
Jim knows what he's talking about! Listen to the whole service instead of the 90 seconds before you start judging.
"A little leaven leavens the whole lump." Galations 5:9
This dude is a fast talker. ...but I like him! Getting rid of the excluding, divisive ways of the past!
"Screw that"? REALLY? Uh, yeah. SUPER enslaved in a reprobate mind. The Holy Spirit doesn't indwell in people who get high. Only those who want to be sober-minded and have their mind renewed the born again POWER of the Holy Spirit and the WORD of GOD. Blessings to KNOW Jesus BEFORE it's too late!🙋
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P.S.
Jesus IS fun!
Thank you Man of God 🙏🏽
The one thing I don't agree with is why play with fire? It's clear that we are to flee from temptation, so why drink and risk getting drunk? Why put yourself in the situation, as for the marijuana if it's medical it's not the same as doing it for recreation. Personally I don't think he got it right, but he has his right to his opinion as well, and yes that is what this is an opinion.
2 Timothy 2:22-24Contemporary English Version (CEV)
22 Run from temptations that capture young people. Always do the right thing. Be faithful, loving, and easy to get along with. Worship with people whose hearts are pure. 23 Stay away from stupid and senseless arguments. These only lead to trouble, 24 and God’s servants must not be troublemakers. They must be kind to everyone, and they must be good teachers and very patient.
Hi I just want to say that my pastor is a good teacher and that 90 seconds taken out of context is not going to change my mind. I will like you to listen to the whole message and then make a seances able judgment thank. God Bless.
Christopher Chapa Watch the entire sermon before you are quick to draw your conclusions. Also, Jesus hung out with drunks but you don't read (or take) anywhere in the Bible that says Jesus ran from them because he was afraid of getting drunk. If you heard the entire 90 second clip then you would have heard him use the words "in moderation". Get your facts straight before you make such a logical fallacy.
I am not saying anything bad about him or anything? If you read my comment correctly I was stating my personal opinion and I don't live in fear of being around people who do and ministering I have friends that are drug users, dealers and alcoholics and I minister to them by not treating them any different but not encouraging them to continue to do what they do. And as far as logistical fallacy you're pretty quick to respond to my comment as if I was saying what he is preaching is evil or isn't in the bible it's my personal opinion. I personally don't agree with it, but I'm not going to go around and try and start arguments and saying that someone is making, "such a logical fallacy." If anything that's the one thing why people look down on Christianity because we (notice I said WE which in includes myself and not a particular persons) take offense and believe we understand the bible more than the person next to us, and feel like we have a right to tear the person down. My comment was not intended for an argument it was a different view, I am not fearful of those environments it's a different perspective I did not say that he is preaching false gospel or call blasphemy it's the way the bible is interpreted to him, and if that's what he wants to stand by then by all means I will not shoot a person down on what they believe or perceive to be right because that is not my place, God will give us the answers in the very end. I don't see any purpose in fighting on youtube with another believer, I just don't agree with that period. But he is still a brother in Christ and I'm praying for him not because I believe he is preaching a false gospel because he is a pastor and will be judged with more responsibility than others. I pray God uses him to expand His kingdom and gives him wisdom and leadership.
I want to see the rest of this sermon before I say that he never opens the bible or that he does or does not use Scripture correctly. You should never judge what anyone says based off of a 50 second clip of a video.. not saying this guy is 100 percent correct but we have to see and hear the whole message first
vimeo.com/97590951
yes! I go to flatirons church and pastor jim is great. If you people who are just judging right away thinking wow this guys a horrible pastor were actually there and heard/saw the whole thing you would understand exactly what he was saying
Matthew S... its all online www.flatironschurch.com/
..and yes He does know the bible
"Screw the rest"???? Really, pastor?
Proverbs 20:1
Wine is a mocker and beer a brawler;
whoever is led astray by them is not wise.
Please take the time to listen to the entire message before you pass judgment on someone. And his statement is true. As a christian if it doesn't come from scripture then it is just empty religion. So many Christians try to feel so righteous by adding burdens to others that are not scriptural. Again, if you dare call yourself a believer please listen to his entire message before looking down your nose at him.
Psalm 104:
14He makes grass grow for the cattle,
and plants for people to cultivate-
bringing forth food from the earth:
15 wine that gladdens human hearts,
oil to make their faces shine,
and bread that sustains their hearts.
A lot of people don't realize that they used to mix alcohol with their water to kill bacteria and make the water safe to drink back in the time of Jesus you didn't drink it to get drunk you drunk it to survive of course there has always been alcoholics but when Jesus turned water into wine it wasn't so everybody can get shit-faced it was so he could make the water pure and safe for the guests of the wedding to drink
@@josephatnip2398 That is only partially true... Jesus did NOT simply make "wine tainted water" to make it "aseptic". Good aged high potency wine was common during wedding festivals as it was seen as a blessing to the hearts of the guests. Remember the master of the feast's speech?
Other men would set out the "good wine" FIRST and after, when men are well drunk, THEN the "inferior"! But during THAT feast the BEST WINE(most perfectly aged and well fermented) was kept til the last moment.
Look at the language structure and the uses in context of the word "wine"_"oinos"(G3631) and the word "drunk"_"methyo`". Look at their Greek definitions, uses in scripture as well as the context in which they are used.
First. let's look at the passage "John 2:10", the wedding miracle at Cana...
Let's state the context for the partial scripture of John 2:10 before taking a look at this study. Jesus had just commanded His disciples to fill the water pots with water and draw out the water, which Jesus turned to wine, and bring it to the master of the feast...
"And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good *WINE* ; and when men have *WELL DRUNK* , then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good *WINE* until now."
John 2:10
Let's focus first on the word "wine" which comes from the Greek word "oinos"(G3631).
Oinos[G3631]-- primary word (wine) , from Hebrew origin "yayin" H3196-- to effervesce by quality of fermentation. Alcohol, wine, winebibber.
To further understand this word, let us look at the uses of this word in scripture. We will look at three passages.
"And be not drunk with *WINE* , wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit..."
Ephesians 5:18
Same word, oinos(G3631) used in a command by Paul to NOT be intoxicated with wine.
"And no man putteth new *WINE* into old bottles: else the new *WINE* doth burst the bottles, and the *WINE* is spilled, and the bottles will be marred: but new *WINE* must be put into new bottles."
Mark 2:22
Same word "oinos" used in a parable about the new covenant using the symbology of wine's fermenting qualities. This is illustrated by the fact that "the bottles BURST" from the alcoholic fermentation qualities...
"For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither *WINE* nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb."
Luke 1:15
Same word "oinos" used here as a command for John the baptist's lifestyle of abstaining from intoxicating beverages as a prophet to prepare the Messiah's path before Him...
Next, we will look at the word "drunk" in John 2:10.
Drunk G3184: methyo: to drink to intoxication, get drunk. To make or be made drunken.
see 1 Corinthians 5:11(methysos)
" But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a *DRUNKARD* , or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat."
1 Corinthians 5:11
Drunkard "Methysos" G3183(from root word methyo "G3184") : Tipsy, a sot. Drunkard/alcoholic.(see John 2:10)
You can drink but not be drunk
I smoked half my life and the day i gave my life to christ he divinely delivered me from the addicted bondage of smoking weed constantly everyday of my life for many years! I didn’t even pray about it- all i did was answer a alter call to give my life to christ and be born again. The Lord took all desires of wanting to smoke weed so i think as a pastor you are leading many astray by your statements. You need to seek the Holy spirit on that topic and he will lead u to the truth! Medical weed is so different than what u include in your statements- the two are not the same at all
1 Peter 4:3, "For we have spent enough of our past lifetime in doing the will of the nations - when we walked in lewdness, lusts, vain drinking, wild parties, drinkings, and abominable idolatries."
This guy is amazing I love his view. I think hes got the right idea.
Idiotic Christian eh?
You'l learn to be intelligent someday, dolt.
The Pipe Smoking Gentleman
His idea is not Gods idea..... reguardless if you think his idea is good or bad. Doesn’t take away from the fact that Gods Right all the time and this guy ain’t.
@@nathanmiller9021 how is he wrong.
Fair and balanced, and I preach holiness. That is fair. One counselor, helper, teacher,......one Spirit above all.
Most people on here don't agree with the religion, and neither do I. But bashing this man for believing in something makes no sense. He can believe whatever the hell he wants to believe, just like you dont have to believe anything.
Also there is nothing wrong with religion in its proper form. A lot of good has been done in the name of religion. And its also nice for them to have something to help get them through the day whether its imaginary or not. Do you see all these kids at Comicon who dress up as their favorite anime characters? Some of these kids actually live as if they were in those characters shoes and it helps them in life somehow.
Its all about perspective and respect. Respect his views on religion, and your views will also be respected.
Very well said. A rarity in the internet.
First time encountering a BLATANTLY OBVIOUS FEEL GOOD "PASTOR" ruin his testimony in under 2 minutes can you say REPROBATE!? people this is a false prophet through and through I'd run the opposite way! He directs the sheep into hellfire
It is 2018, you don’t need to drink booze in any form. Don’t contribute to an industry that’s ruining many families; be wise
Drink lemonade or grape juice!
That's not the question there ole Joey
Understanding Jesus is so simple. Doing it is boring, and maybe even feel like a dork. The fruits are awesome though. Look at it like this. Being bad or mean leads to a verbal altercation. A verbal altercation leads to a scuffle. A scuffle leads to manslaugter. Manslaughter is allmost or the same as murder. You either go to jail or have to explain people it was an accident, and they would have to believe you, maybe doubt you. Plus that you could have lost the fight. That could all have been prevented by being nice and understanding, even if you didn't understand, you did'nt escalate. Usually, better meak for a week, than dead or in jail for life. Letting someone keep their natural teeth makes you the best dentist in the world. So that is a great gift. Very great gift. Makes you a great guy.
Thank you Jesus. We need better religious leaders like this man here.
Amen to that.
Bible only talks about alcohol not weed. I smoke weed for over 25 years had no problem with it. There's a place and time for every thing. Be responsible put God first above all.
Every person might or have different experiences with it.
If you are smoking weed then you aren't putting God first now are you?
Hi, I'm from /r/atheism over at the little community known as Reddit (it's quite small and humble, you probably haven't heard of it). I would just like to point out for any non intellectuals who might not have realised/are not well learned. But this is a pastor, he represents Pastafarianism which is a mock/satirical religion created by Reddit! Seriously go look it up, this isn't MEANT to be serious, this is satire as is Pastafarianism and the PASTA who is representing it in this video. If you would like to learn more kind sirs and m'lady's please check out fellow like minded Redditors over and reddit.com /r/atheism. A sanctuary for the intelectuals and power thinkers/think tanks of our modern age *tip of the hat fine sirs*
Shimmy. If you listen to what his messages regularly, you will see that you are quite incorrect. From this tiny clip, all he said is that the Bible doesn't tell you not to every drink alcohol and that weed isn't always bad. He doesn't believe in recreational drug use and you can't even get that from the clip - he said that he won't make a blanket statement about it but he has stated, many times, from the stage, that smoking weed isn't that wise, but it has it's place. That's called logic, not Pastafarianism. He is not light hearted about the Bible, Jesus, Christianity - he is VERY passionate about it. This clip is from a message on how Christian beat each other up with legalism and that's wrong, too.
You got it wrong pastor, you leave alot for interpretation and risk that someone may fall in the hole you're creating. When you truly follow and love God Jesus Christ, your life is not boring. He gives you the Holy spirit and you find joy in other ways.... I invite you to follow HIM, you are still leaving in tbe flesh and you shouldn't be a pastor!!!
Sad that the wrong teachings on alcohol has led to the church messing up the holy communion. Wine which represents the blood of Jesus has been replaced by juice. In the result the thing we call holy communion is no longer holy communion and doesn't serve its purpose at all. How can it be holy communion when the blood of Jesus is not there.
Thanks a lot pastor.
Why do so many people turn to some pastor or other person for the truth? If you desire truth then you MUST read Gods Word for yourself and then decide what you believe. Dont just blindly listen to any man. Read your KJV Bible and research the scriptures for truth.
And why does it have to be the KJV? Is that because it is the one that Catholics approved? Why not read The Complete Jewish Bible which has more of the actual words from the actual language of that time? Why have Christians accepted the pagan holidays and Christianize them? Is YHWH honored with the fact that we have taken away the Jewishness of Yeshua and made him into a blue eyed, blonde haired white guy? Why do Christians insist on obeying the 9 commandments, and yet keeping the Sabbath day as a day of rest is under the law. And yes, I am a believer who refuses to call themselves a christian and I read the word for myself and have deprogrammed myself from the organized religion in general. I am a believer and follower of Yeshua, not in man or man's dogma
Its not okay, to all people pray for that pastor.
I love this truth.
I love god
MY NAME = 999
But I'm also number 4
I'm next
When i first got saved i used to still smoke and drink but not as much. Overtime i kept getting convicted because in 1 Peter 5:8 he told us “to stay sober minded at all times, becuase the devil waits to devour you”
False teaching
Sweet and to the point
So good
Truth
Yeah on drunkeness and intoxication not drinking a beer once in a while and smoking weed once in a while
I'm an agnostic atheist and I truly wish more people would be as sensible as this guy! Religious or areligious..
So in summary it’s not bad to drink a little or smoke a little
Thank you.
😂😂😂Medical dope is the same as regular dope...you give up your mental freedom to a drug...potheads are clever.
When Jesus comes back I don't want to be drunk or high but its ok if it don't control you & its for medical or health purposes , I agree .
Hhmmm....it's interesting there are quite a few comments by atheists on here who support this man. Evidently The Holy Spirit isn't dwelling, if it was atheists wouldn't be in support of anything being said.
That's not true at all. There are many areas of agreement between atheists and Christianity, just as there are many areas where the opposite is clearly true. The fact is, in my Bible, in the Book of John, it clearly describes the First Miracle, where Jesus turned water into wine for wedding guests who were ALREADY DRUNK. Now does that mean it's okay to get drunk? No, but I think it means it's not a mortal sin. I think this stunning miracle was mentioned first just to show how absurd and legalistic anyone is who says NO NEVER can a Christian drink.
Jesus used to smoke weed and drink a lot of wine, he was a regular guy.
Hey, look at that. I found a religious person I don't hate after hearing them talk for 90 seconds.
This video is still relevant.
I’m trying hard to not eat pork
Jesus I think by George somebody's got it
From how he talked,,he prolly was in a rush for the next high
What's the point of drinking in moderation? Scripture doesn't say drink in moderation and you will be alright. It says drink a little wine for thy stomachs sake for the often infirmities
If there's one thing id like to achieve, its to disassociate faith from virtue.
HE LOST ME AT, "SCREW THE REST." OH! SO WHEN WE DON'T LIKE WHAT SOMEONE DOES TO US, LET US STAND IN OUR CHURCH BUILDING DURING A PREACHING TIME & USE THE LANGUAGE OF THE UNSAVED WORLD TO COMMUNICATE OUR POSITION! NO WAY!
Why everyone got to keep demonizing the word religion. Without religion there would be no Christians. Religion is merely a path one walks. Case and point the path the deciples walked with Jesus when He say "follow me"
Same as caffeine, nicotine, pain meds, alphabet desease meds, heart meds, digestive meds, etc... the drug is not the sin, the use of can be... what about being "drunk" on the holy spirit?.. or being "high" on JESUS?..
My family uses that verse Jesus turn water into wine.
Flat irons community church...colorado. Check out their website, he really is an incredible speaker.
*WARNING*! Do NOT feed the TROLLS!
It almost feels like he's trying to justify something that another person's relationship with Jesus might steer them away from. I do take the message as innocuous to people with discernment.
Hes apsolutely right.