Rukka Nivala 2 Review - 2 Years & 30,000 Miles!
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
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I'm one of those old enough to remember Hein Geriche as one of the leaders in quality riders gear. Over the years I've heard all the pros and cons of the $$ versus cheaper riding suits. Wearing the best that one can afford is the answer. A rain suit over a vented jacket served me well last July in extreme heat. If I needed 100% comfort and dryness, I'd use a car., but that would take the "adventure " out of why I travel by moto. Very good review. Keep them coming. A loyal U S fan.
I agree. I'm still using my Hein Gericke jacket from around 2001. I can't say it's now absolutely 100% waterproof but I value it having four pockets on the front, one inside and one on the back, plus a detachable storm collar. And a detachable insulating lining. Perhaps the company went to the wall because they were selling quality kit too cheaply. The main reason I haven't replaced the old jacket is only partly financial. In most jackets these days, upper front pockets seem to have been replaced by zippable air vents. I can live with being sweaty if I'm wearing a base layer and drink enough water at fuelling stops. What I prefer is adequate storage. Am I alone in wanting four pockets on the front to stow: bike lock keys that I don't want jangling on the bike's paintwork; house keys; ear plugs; glasses; credit/debit cards & driving licence; 90 degree tyre valve stems; and a tyre pressure gauge? I value practicality over style, but each to their own. And it now largely seems that only premium-priced jackets come with storm collars. (Come on! We don't all live where 'It Never Rains In Southern California')
Ah yes, I recall Hein Gericke kit.
It had a good reputation with affordable pricing and loads of my biker mates still speak highly of Hein Gericke.
I still have the 2009(?) HG pro-shell, now worn indigo and black with near 150,000 Km on it. Kevlar rip-stop too and the trousers’ fly now opens on auto😊. Your suit sounds like a good candidate to replace it and that price is pretty steep. Divide that over 15 years and it’s not so bad an insurance for all-weather survival. It’s be even better if I could find a good fit. Better yet if the women’s sizes aren’t only made for Barbie figures!
(I can’t understand why “all-season” non- laminates still get sold either; they’re a health risk when the waterproof inner allows the outer to be soaked and to steal body heat with wind chill and not dry out over night. )
Thanks for the review!
Buy once, buy right. I learnt this the hard way. Several cheaper suits bought and used and either sold, given away or returned due to faults. I now ride in similar costing Klim gear and two years on its worth every single penny.
Hello from a fellow Klim wearer. My previous Klim Badlands Pro suit lasted 7 years before I sold it on to a mate. I’m still wearing Klim but decided to go for the Marrakesh and layer up.
For the same price you can get a Hideout tailor made suit, that fits you properly, with pockets and vents etc exactly where you want them! I had the vents on my Hideout suit repositioned as I like to wear a Kreiga Hydropak in the summer, and the vents open and work with the shoulder straps. Plus, they are rated to the highest level for a textile suit. There's a good reason the Police wear Hideout, but aren't allowed to wear Rukka 😉
Actually I think you’ll find the police aren’t mandated to wear anything in particular - when I joined them on bike patrol last year I was told they are given an allowance to buy the kit they want and in fact the example given of the sort of kit they do buy was Rukka , Halvarrson’s, Dane, et cetera. Interesting what you say about Hideout though, I didn’t know that.
@@TheMissendenFlyer not true of all Forces. In most you can only wear approved PPE, and not wearing that is against policy, and will cause you issues in a crash. Although a lot of coppers wear Rukka, it's their choice, and a blind eye is turned. In my local Force, Rukka is banned because it doesn't meet the required PPE standards. On another note, Rukka never fitted me properly either. I guess my dimensions don't meet the 'average' the suits are all made to?
The Met motorcyclists in general are issued Rukka Kalix 2 suits. The others tend to wear higher end Rukka. The Rukka Kingsley was designed for the Met, but was deemed too expensive, hence the issue of Kalix 2.
Their website is showing 'off the peg' laminate suits for £1,350.00 - £1,404.00. Add 30% for made to measure. Their stuff is great and I'm a fan but you have to pay more for what you describe.
@@thewoodster8607 nope, get a quote and find out. And yes, I have multiple made to measure Hideout suits 😉
I've had a Rukka pro gortex textile jacket and trousers for 8 years and it's never leaked. Mine too isn't good on the ventilation but I have a seperate mesh suit if the weather is too hot for my normal kit. I think the idea of the zip is to prevent the jacket and trousers from separating and exposing your mid torso if you have an off so I always zip mine together. Expensive kit, but you get what you pay for. Buy cheap buy twice comes to mind 🙈
That's very true - my garage kit collection is testament to that!
I’ve been wearing the same Rukka jacket for 12 years. Interesting you post this today Andy. Yesterday I had two pocket zips break on me. I paid 1k 12 yrs ago and it’s been back for two main zips in that time. It is however, still waterproof. As long as you wash them they will look after you. Trousers are in better shape. I moved to Rukka after the gen 2 BMW rallye soaked me in a medium downpour. Miss my first generation BMW jacket. They were made in Germany and as such were excellent.
When I got back into biking 4 years ago and had to start again, the concensus of opinion was don't spend a fortune on gear in the beginning. Mistakenly, I went along with this, and over a few years I've spent a fortune on clothing and boots and have just ended up with a warehouse full of at best mediocre gear. I now wish I'd just gone out and bought the best and most expensive gear at the outset. The money saved would have probably paid for a couple of foreign trips. The worst that could have happened is that I didn't pursue the hobby and I'd have to sell everything. However, the loss on top quality gear like Rukka would have been minimal.
Yes very good point - and welcome to my world!! It takes a while to work out what works for you doesn’t it…
@@TheMissendenFlyer Try explaining that to her indoors 😁
@@paulyflyer8154 like you I also spent loads on gear not fit for purpose and found I was constantly chopping and changing my gear at the lower end of the market.
Eventually I bit the bullet and bought a Klim Badlands Pro suit back in 2017. It lasted 7 years before I sold it to a mate who is doing green-laning. So I’ve learnt that the very best gear will be suitable in all conditions and last at least 7 times as long as cheap gear getting replaced every year.
Unfortunately I don’t like the new fashion of storm collars as they sit too far up my neck, so I didn’t buy the new Klim Kodiak and instead got the Kilm Marrakesh with layers (wind and rain) - still can’t beat a proper gore-tex suit with vents for all conditions.
Well I could afford that kind of Rukka suit (and have had Rukka in the past) its just my view its not that good value,, I bought a Oxford Mondial suit ,,and it also just works ( its warm ,,waterproof ,,sturdy,,and cheapish))) why pay more!!!
Absolutely fantastic kit, I bought exactly the same suit this year. I returned to motorcycling after a 40 year break and bought a Weis suit then Richa goretex but neither were comfortable and as I have started as a blood biker now and need some comfortable I went to Motolegends who recommended the Nivala 2 what a difference, you certainly get what you pay for.
Yes I am very happy with mine I must say....
I have had Rukka gloves with were fantastic and lasted well, no doubt this kit is as good as you say. In this instance you get what you pay for.
BTW. I love your work on CZcams ive been watching you for years, well done for all of it.
Thank you very much!
I had my Nivala 1 for 3 years and 50,000 miles it still working perfectly
The chest protector is zipped in and larget than the one on the 2
The inner storm cuffs are a great idea as is the detachable storm collars
There is also a crotch strap
Someone mentioned hidout but is the jacket made from 3 layer Gortex with stretch woven in
Fantastic suit the trousers even have a built in air cushion and I love the braces
Based on 6 years of warranty its not that expensive
I've owned and used Aerostich Roadcrafter and R1 suits for the past 20+ years.
My lovely wife treated me to a Rukka suit 18 years ago!
Still works perfectly after 10s of thousands of miles.
She has now treated me to a new Explor R jacket in light grey, for warmer days... think it'll outlast me!! Great kit and a great review.
Great to hear!
Another great video Andy.
I tried this jacket on at SBS recently. It was very comfortable, but whilst all kit is a compromise, this has 2 big downsides; price and safery rating. Yes I understand that the stretch material limits burst strength, but AAA is a low bar to begin with. When manufacturers can make AAA stretch shirts and single layer jeans, we should not be accepting anything that is single A anymore, and should he pushing for much higher bars in the next regs update.
Fair enough!
Thanks for the review. I'm pretty serious about my riding, yet the price of Rukka to me is insane. I ride through all weather. Cold is not a problem. Rain is. I use kit from Alipinestars. Protection is fine, although you have to pay extra for for exampe a back protector. Main issue: it was perfectly waterproof for year 1 and 2 and than it started to fail. Spraying it did help as long as you are not in a downpour. So... I got a separate rain suit (an overall) which, together with the Alpinestar kit does keep me dry. A bit tedious to put on, that's the main drawback to me. Yet all kit combined is about 6-700 EUR, complete. I also tend to use either my RT or my recently acquired maxi scooter when a lot of rain is expected. Weather protection on both is already quite good.
Great insight into the Rukka kit Andy, but I bought the Oxford mondial suite after watching your other review and recommendation 5years ago. So my question is to you is it worth the extra 2 grand on top over the Oxford mondial suite which has been an excellent bit of kit. Helmet reviews next please you have a lot of them hung up be nice to here your opinion on the helmets you own thanks Andy 😎👍🏻
Yes that Oxford kit is great value for money but on occasion mine did let me down in the crotch area (wet bum after a downpour) - not had that issue with the Rukka, that has to be worth something!
just posted similar before reading this. I think the mondial kit is excellent too, and even though i thought it was expensive at the time because i didnt have any reference to compare it to, has proved a great investment. i wear the jacket every time i ride, paired with kevlar jeans in warmer weather and the mondial trews when it's colder or looking like it may rain, id recommend to anyone.
Thanks for your long term review! and glad you like it. You said get the best kit money can buy, and I can afford the cost, so I considered the Rukka the the Klim Kodiak for my on-road LD touring on my DCT Tour. I ultimately went with a Klim Marrakesh jacket. The wearability, 1000D Cordura throughout and AA rating were deciding factors, and I added liners and layers for different weather conditions. It doesn’t have the heft and bomb proof feel the other two jackets have, so I’ll see if this kit will work in the long term.
Do report back! Thanks for watching....
I did exactly the same. I wanted the Klim Kodiak but the collar was so uncomfortably annoying that I went with the Klim Marrakesh instead and layered up.
Hi Andy, being a Yorkshire man you’ve given me palpitations with that price !
A little tip, wait for the next years Oxford laminate Jacket and trousers to go on sale, buy the outgoing suit, hundreds saved and it’s a good suit.
For total protection on the upper body it’s a Knox shirt and under the trousers it’s Hood jeans.
I’ve got plenty of articulation even with all that on, plus vents.
Right…..I think my heart has started slowing now.
To be honest, I have found my Oxford laminate gear to be very poor in terms of quality (failing zips) and waterproofness or rather lack of it.
yep I totally agree,, I wear the same setup...
@@stevetaylor8698 I have the oxford mondila suit .. the jacket is great ,,no issues.. the 1st pair of pants did leak,,so returned to SBS,, they exchanged for a new pair (in the blink of an eye ) and reinbused me £48 because the price was reduced,,how good is that!!!!!! the new pair are WP...
Good gear is worth the price in many ways, enables us to extend our riding limits, and protects us in the event of an off. I've ridden in the Kilm Badlands Pro for three years and all sorts of climates and still have an AeroStitch one piece I've had since 2008 or so. The one piece suit was great for commuting but it wasn't waterproof, the Klim has handled everything thrown at it, it just isn't as easy to don & doff.
I bought the same suit and yes it is expensive but I bought it on a two year interest free payment deal, this makes it very easy to own the best bit of riding gear I have ever owned.
Thanks for sharing!
Good review as always mate thank you. Over £2k for a riding suit? I think you summed it up well. For a professional rider who is out in all weathers, Yes it's probably the way to go. But I strongly suspect for less than half that price, shall I say the hobby bikers and I include myself in that category, can purchase a more than adequate set up which will meet their needs. In a similar vein to your BMW GS13 review a week or two back. Great kit, but too bl**dy expensive for most mere mortals. Lol.
I bought the first nivala suit in 2017 and still riding in it now, best riding gear I’ve ever bought. I commute 80 miles a day for work and the nivala keeps me dry and warm. I have a warm and safe heated jacket for the winter to keep warm in the really cold temperatures.
Great to hear!
Hi Andy.
Gillianthepillion says you never mentioned what pockets the jacket had.
Very important to us while on the road.
Great video as usual 😎👍
Oops! No lack of pocketry, it’s festooned with them including a generous inside pocket that you can access from the outside (which is sometimes lacking on lesser kit)….
i think it was dunhill that said quality is remembered long after the price is forgotten, but still, i wouldn't forget £2400 on a jacket and trousers lol. when i started biking i gulped at spending something like £600 on oxford mondial clothing on top of everything else, but a few years later still love 'em and they're still protective, waterproof, warm and in great condition after about 15,000 miles, but hey, if you use the rukka gear every day, you can afford it and it makes life better, good on ya !!
Really enjoyed this one. I purchased the Rukka Exgal suit four years ago, and that’s premium too.
Wouldn’t be without it, loads of miles covered and perfectly comfortable and dry in heavy rain.
The outlay is definitely worth the price in my opinion.
Thanks for sharing!
Good review, quality and comfort, I like that as a GS rider. ( 1200 ‘17)
I have a 13 year old Alpinestars jacket I’ve never washed. I feel washing brings bad juju. I’ve scrubbed it with soap and water, hosed it down. That’s acceptable. So no worries about the 2 years no wash.
nice review but at that price id expect the comfort and AA minimum probably AAA. my halvarssons premium all season is comfortable AA lv2 and half price so might stock.
but i did like the review thank you j
Yes I hear good things about Halvarssons kit too….
I completely agree with you about braces, I wore them all the time whilst 'despatching', back in the eighties.
Much better than belts, don't know why they're not more commonly used anymore?
Are they not then?
@@TheMissendenFlyer Well, not like in Grandad's time.
Oxford Riggers are excellent for protective riding jeans as they have strong clips that handle the extra weight of d30 inserts.
Just a small point. I do wear braces but I have to take my jacket off to release the top of the trousers to wee. No problems as long as there is somewhere to hang the jacket.
I buy high end gear and it’s certainly worth the coin. But, it would be interesting to know how well it holds up over a decade or so and if it’s sellable at this point. If so, the high cost may be mitigated more than we think. Truthfully, if I could stumble on the gear being reviewed here, used and treated well after ten years, for 30% of the original cost - I’d buy it.
Kit corners back! Good review on the Nivala 2 jacket 👍 price a bit salty for me though! I done a review on the new Rukka Kemi Jacket I bought & it is simply outstanding! for the price,vents in all the usual place, bicep adjuster, lovely attention to detail, curved zip to ease of use with gloves etc. lanyard for key hold. Abrasion on shoulders & elbows a nice touch. D30 Lvl 2 armour in shoulders & elbows & Lvl 1 back protector.
All of the usual refinements of a Rukka, it is a far more comfortable jacket than the Nivala 2.0 due the stretch that is infused into the fabric, it is way lighter than the Nivala 2.0 & imo I doubt you'll not get a more comfortable Rukka Jacket than this.
No goretex with this (AWS pro motorsport) however Rukka certainly do know how to make laminate work properly, I was out with this jacket when the heavens opened up & this did now let me down absolutely bone dry!
The price is absolutely fantastic, if you take all of the bells & whistles that the Nivala 2.0 has that the Kemi doesn't…. Storm collar… down jacket…chest protector etc. The difference is £650. If you add all of above to Kemi etc. you'd still have £350 left so imo it is a much better buy.
A nice mid layer & your all sorted with this jacket.
It's now my go to Jacket, the build quality is absolutely superb, a great Jacket.
Cool - glad you’re as happy with yours as I am mine! Personally for me laminated is the way to go….
@@TheMissendenFlyer it’s 3 3-layer laminated! lol 😜
Estrella, a man of great taste Andy!
Cheers! 🍻
Heavy and err pricey. I acquired an Hein Gericke (what happened to them?) Goretex two piece suit they were selling off as it was ‘last year’s colours’ for half price £350! Ok! A few years ago but it has never let me down touring even through France (never been to France when it has not bucketed down at some stage, especially when camping). Anyway the kit has full armour, which could be updated, but it’s still top class. Kit bargains are now limited but still possible and alternatives can be risky if sourced from the far East without CE testing. If you have the budget then by all means Rukka or say Halvarssons etc are excellent bits of kit, but there are bargains to be had, though trial and error may be involved. However, getting wet and cold on a long ride is not fun.
I’ve owned a couple of Rukka suits over the years… totally waterproof and comfortable… BUT with both, I had the same problem… zip headers breaking and the reflective dot logo peeling off.
That’s interesting, I’ve had no such issue to date - out of interest after how long did that happen and had the jackets had much use?
@@TheMissendenFlyer 6-7 years old, from memory. The last suit I owned was a good 5 years ago now… so hopefully they have addressed those issues (which I found slightly annoying particularly given the price) I’m now a Richa chap… a lot less expensive-and so far quality seems great.
Did some research on Rukka design in Finland, made in china 🇨🇳
Haven’t bought into Rukka (as yet) I’ve been more than happy with my cheaper and super comfortable Halvarssons gear . Saying that my Sunne pants (which are advertised as laminated but not gortex ) leaked around the crotch and backside on a persistent rain day in the Picos. Sent back to Motolegends and replaced with a new pair. I’ve yet to test the new pair for their waterproofness. Saying all this I do know riders whose Rukka pants have taken in water in the same areas.
I’m glad to say mine haven’t! …and boy have I ridden with it in some torrential rain…
“I rarely ride in plus 40 degrees”. Andy, surely you could count the days on one hand and have some fingers in reserve. 😊
Very true! It has been done though and in this kit!!
I found your review of the Rukka gear informative. However, I have always thought that the gear is designed for naked bikes. I have a fairing and quite different protection. Have you thought about doing some tests with faired and naked bikes with your riding gear? I'd be interested in what differences there might be on the different bikes
Interesting idea!
I'm 15 years into a Rukka suit, expensive, yes, but now wouldn't have anything else.
Rukka gloves too,also my Daytona boots are coming up to tens years old. Surley it's only expensive if it doesn't work or doesn't last.
I find it great value for money. Mine has never leaked.
Well yes - that’s exactly it - it’s about value isn’t it…
In response to those critical of the review on the basis of the cost of the kit, he is not forcing you to buy it! We all have choices according to budget and if you can afford trips costing £k’s why wouldn’t you seek to use the best kit to make sure you are comfortable. TMF has used the gear long term so why not review it. I couldn’t justify the cost and even one UK retailer who appears to sell substantial quantities of Rukka claims that Halvarssons is 90% of the quality of Rukka for 50% of the price. People have the right to choose to buy the best irrespective of what they actually require.
Maybe on his next trip TMF can be persuaded to use wadded newspaper and bin bags to provide a comparison at the other end of the budget scale!
wow, newspaper and binbags, why didnt i think of that 😀
well, you are correct. However for that amount of money it should be perfect. There always is cost versus benefits.
My wife has asked me to tell you it's pronounced "Roo car". She works for the company here in Lahti Finland (Luhta is the parent company) and is the lady on the white Honda Hornet in the new "Roo car" advertising campaign. 😂
Coolio!! Thank you for that - I stand corrected!
Interesting review. It's always stood out as good quality gear but is a bit pricey for me personally so I've never owned any. Although no doubting it's quality & you definitely get what you pay for. I completely appreciate you shouldn't skrimp on riding kit & get the best you can afford so I'll bear it in mind next time I nerd some new gear for sure.
Hi Andy, without doubt the Rukka range of clothing are at the pinnacle in motorcycle clothing, I have been debating what to replace my Alpinestars Ketchum stuff with, which I have to sat has never let me down, but I have been caught between the Rukka and Klim stuff, and as you say the weight of the triple layer stuff puts me off a little, but you may have just swung me with your evaluation. Thank you.
Hi Andy.
Looking at purchasing this Rukka jacket. Great video. It would be great if you could tell me what size your gear is. Just as a comparison.
Cheers Rob
I bought the original Nivala suit when this new version was launched - its very much the same as this version (according to Motolegends anyway) and I got it at a third of the price of this one. It's truly excellent and one of the best suits I have had (and in 40 years of riding I have had many many outfits) but that said, apart from the very occasional long trip, i've never really worn it as for my 4 mile each way commute it was total overkill - instead as a daily beater I wear an Oxford Mondial laminate, cheap as chips, which is also excellent.
Yes I had one of those before this kit…
Hi Andy. Great video. I agree with you about the rating. As Chris the Chap in the Hat says, the bigger size of the Rukka armour would be make a bigger difference if you came off. I have a 5 yo Rukka suit its been fantastic. It is Goretex Pro too. I have a Rukka summer jacket for our summers here in Australia 🇦🇺. Also when wash it you have to follow a certain procedure it keep it waterproof. You need DWR- Durable Water Repellent treatment.
Yes good point….thanks for the reminder as mine is due a clean!
RUKka adventure jacket lasted me 10 plus years so far - looks a bit grim now but handled many a dreary rainy motorway mile to hot enduros in the sun
Great review of a very good and important piece of equipment. Well out of my price rate, as I only ride for pleasure. It would be well worth the outlay if I used my bike for employment etc. I have the Oxford Mondial 4 which has also never let me down over 2 years. Love the kit corner segments.
Thanks for watching and for stopping by!
Hi Andy. ‘KIT CORER’…yay! Never mind the jacket, are all those bottles on the bench Marstons Pedigree? That’s my kind of garage! Have a ‘hic’ great weekend.
BTW I’ve got a (piggin expensive) Goretex reflective jacket and they work a treat at night.
With the advent of airbag vests and jackets (which I believe you wear) surely a lot of the armour protection is now superfluous 🤔
I don't wear an airbag regularly (infact barely ever) as they are so cumbersome....but hard to argue against!
Yes quality in biking clothing is brilliant for those who can afford it ,
I’m fortunate I can afford to buy this equipment, would I , NO, , I use RST for me it’s totally adequate for the riding I do ,I have been unfortunate occasionally and caught in several horrendous rain storms I’ve had no major issues , my jacket and trousers are 7 years old admittedly it’s not used every time I ride,🏴 nice video 👍🏻
Nice review Andy. Yes expensive, however not when compared to the others manufacturers at a similar spec I.E Klim ect…. The old saying of buy cheap buy twice is so true with motorcycle gear!!
Totally agree - my garage collection is testament to that!
Great review! Have you ever tested or own used Aerostich gear? It’s is a great piece of kit. Would like to hear what you think about it!😊
No - tbh I’ve never heard of it!
Rukka make some nice kit. Pricey but you get what you pay for. I have a Rukka Force-air jacket, a world of difference in hot weather. Nice review.
It was the venting that put me off getting it (I run hot at the best of times), that and the fact I like a slightly longer jacket. But I will say this, once you've had a Gore-Tex Pro 3-layer laminate you'll pay up for it next time without thinking.
I agree....
Very nice jacket though for half the price I have the Halvarssons Gruvan, AA rated, inner fleece, basically every thing the Rukka has other than that monsterous guarantee.
Yes Halvarsson‘s kit is pretty good too, the Nordics know how to do weatherproof kit!
How was your Dave's ride? Looking forward to your experience of the largest bike event in the UK
Somehow I didn't know it was happenning until I saw it on the news...so sadly missed it. Did you go?
@@TheMissendenFlyer yes it was amazing. Sorry you missed it.
I think that chest padding obviates the safety concern about abrasion resistance in that area. Anyone who has come off at 50mph as I have, will understand just how important abrasion resistance is.
Kit Corner? Looks like Beer Corner to me! Be good to have a comparison with a suit, say, half the price - is this twice as good?
Let me recommend to the house, the Bering Hurricane GTX suit. 1/3 the cost of your suit, and at least half the weight.
Great review. Cheers Andy 👍
Thanks 👍
I have the trousers and contemplating buying the jacket . Why do they not make some nice colours 🤪 they only do black 😢
Good vid. You never discussed how the chest pad affects heat/ventilation, if it does. Interesting jacket. 1st time I've seen a review. Trousers, pockets? Comfort? Fit? Look great. How about on off in/out boots? Next time
Thanks for the feedback!
Nice bit of kit but personally I would never pay £2,400 for a bike jacket and trousers. I bought my Hein Gerricke Four Seasons jacket about 25 years ago for around £200 and it still looks good, does the job and no zip has ever failed.
Fair enough!
I 100% concur😀, it’s the best! 👌
I’ve got the suit Andy great and keeps you dry also got the Kim Carlsbad suit for the summer lighter and more vents to keep you cool 👍keep up the great vids
Cheers - will do!
Slight tangent - we’re planning a pacific coastal trip. Did you take your own crash helmets?
Yes....
I tried it on and found that the arms were too thin and long for me 😢. I don’t get it, coz it’s not like I’m super obese or overly muscly. 🤷🏼♂️m
Anyway, Andy I’m really impressed with your professionalism as a CZcamsr. Your approach, including reading all the comments is very smart. Looking forward to getting my own z900rs….maybe the rs se!
Good choice! ....and thank you for noticing!
120000 miles so far from my Rukka had the zip replaced under warranty once. 6 years old now and got at least another 6 and another 120000 miles left in it. So not really that expensive. 👍😎 FB
Washing is actually a biggie. A lot of motorcycle clothing simply can't cope with washing and the process often renders the little waterproofing the clothing had to start with, useless. It would be interesting to see how this super expensive kit deals with it, and whether you have to do other things after such as special proofing treatments.
Yes you do - maybe I should make a video on that....(it's not hard, just an additive in the washing machine) - come to think of it Teapot one made a good video on it a few months back.....
I've got this kit and I had Rukka suit before this one. In my opinion there's been a massive decline in Rukka quality my previous Rukka gear it was in a different league .l won't be buying another Rukka suit unless they make some major improvements. Best feature for me is the size of the armour that's a major safety feature and a class leader but overall I think others such as Klim are putting out higher quality gear these days.
Out of interest, what about the quality do you think has declined?
@@TheMissendenFlyer
They used to use more expensive high tech materials and a much higher quality general build. My old suit had a heat reflective element built in, outlast removable inner jacket and was made from a more protective material. The old suit I could ride all day in the rain and cold and it kept me dry that's not the case with the Nivala I've had water ingress around the neck, waist , sleeves and into the boots whilst wearing the same boots as in my previous suit. I had two offs in the last suit and was protected and it remained waterproof I gave the suit away when I replaced it and it's still giving good service I'm not sure exactly how old it is now but would estimate 17 year's old if you put the two suites together and compare the old ones way better I regret replacing it.
Made in China now
Morning Andy
Quick question about audio if you don’t mind answering please.
I record footage of bike tours with my mates, not specifically for CZcams but more to share within our group of our memories riding together.
I was using GoPro 10 but due to unreliability of the GoPro and hit or miss audio capture I recently upgraded to DJI Action 4 based on your recommendation.
Now for the question; how do you capture both your voice and clear engine sounds when out riding please, thank you in advance.
I now use the DJI Osmo Lavalier mic and adaptor - works very well
Like you mentioned, you have ridden bikes that cost less, I understand the philosophy of buy the best, but come on.. 2.5k for trousers and a jacket.. sounds like the dragons den episode where the woman was selling a 'premium' watch for £300 that cost £15 from china... I have no doubt this is full of tech and also appears to last the miles, but it is not perfect as you mentioned (venting), there has to be comparable kit out there for a sensible price range? (Oxford mondial)
The Mondial from Oxford is excellent value - but nowhere near as sturdy/substantial feeling as this and has less padding....
Great review Andy very helpful. I have looked at these, but couldn’t bring myself to spending the ticket price. Tbh I think a ridiculous amount of money when compared to other premium brands like Dainese ect . 😄👍
No denying it’s expensive but it is also great kit…
At £2500 for a textile suite, it makes my old Armaxxion seem cheap.
Nice when they are given for free.
Nothing in life is free I can assure you….
For what it's worth IMO my kit is my only protection and I'll much sooner spend my money on gear than on having a 'latest and greatest" bike. Come to think of it, the three Richa outfits (summer, "Not looking good" and "cats&dogs") I have atm and my Shoei lid will probably amount to a higher price tag than my bikes.
After decades of all year riding I think it's safe to say that comfortable, reliable kit is worth it's weight in gold and is going to do more for you safety-wise than most of the electronic whiz-bangery on modern machines.
Also, braces.
Yes. Yes bruv.
I agree!
IMHO the best feature of Rukka are their huge protectors which are comfortable and unobtrusive. You should’ve shown them.
Rukka kit is brilliant but pricey. However in almost 25 years of motorcycling I have only had three Rukka jackets and all three still work. I will point out I have also two summer teabag style jackets as well as leathers, but the Rukka Jackets do most of the day to day work. I plan to buy a full Rukka suit next year as a present to myself, either Nivala or Kingsley.
That’s interesting to hear James, just FYI I had a Kingsley before the Nivala and I personally prefer the latter (without checking I have a feeling it’s a bit cheaper too, but I may be wrong).
Andy, You’re not wrong. The Kingsley is the range topping suit that was designed for the Met Police, but they found it too expensive. From what I read the Nivala is probably more comfortable day to day. We will see.
Black gets too hot in Arizona USA. If Rukka wanted to reachout more worldwide as opposed to northern Europe they out to consider at least a lighter grey version.
Yes that is a good point, I always wonder why black seems to be the only option, I guess it’s because it shows the dirt less in colder climates where you get mud up your back and so on.
Rukka is just another European company who have outsourced their manufacturing to China.
Hideout is the place to go for quality motorcycle gear which you can have tailor made with extra vents etc etc and of course it’s AAA rated.
Good review Andy, I know youre sponsored by Bikerheadz, Rukka importer, ( no I’m not about to knock you) Rukka now do a laminate suit that is similar in many respects to the Nivala but using their own membrane, the Kimi, it’s a lot cheaper. Any chance you could get them to send you a jacket for a comparison? If you’re too busy they could always send it to me of course 😉
Interesting - wasn't aware of that - I suspect it's way cheaper for no other reason than they don't have to pay a licencing fee to Goretex.....
Halvarssons fan here, I’ve found them comfortable and better vfm…moving away from laminates though and now prefer to layer as not a daily rider.
Yes, I’ve heard Halvarsson’s are good kit, the Nordics seem to know how to do this stuff!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Best kit but then I think they originally both developed snowmobile clothing, I like Klim too…though lots of great gear out there for all styles and budgets. Old enough to remember Hein Gericke as the go to brand.
Seems to me biking is getting to be more of a fashion show these days . At least that gear is black & not girly looking like the light coloured adventure suits . I am in a position where I could afford high end kit , but it wouldn’t last five minutes worn by me . I tend to stuff the pockets with things like spanner’s ,mole grips & sundry bike items . I don’t spend more than a few hundred on textile suits , as I tend to wear them a year or two, until they look really grotty . I then purchase a new set of textiles on the proviso ,that the dealer puts my old ones in their bin . I will be after a new set if textiles soon , but I am setting my limit to 500 to maybe 600 quid tops if I am feeling in a good mood . 👍
you're a funny one you....
@@TheMissendenFlyer You are not the first to notice & tell me that 👍
I was in the proces of buying the Nivala (call Rapto-R in other countries). Nice comfortable jacket (and troussers) but stitches on the inside of elbow (there is hump of stiches there). irritated my skin very much. After wearing it for 30 min i had already red irritation spots on my skin in that place. So i bought the Shield-r which doesn't have the hump of stiches. It basicly the same jacket but without the stretch panels.
Oh dear! I’ve not noticed that?
Andy, I’m doing my first guided tour of the Southwest U.S. in October. I’m looking for good dual sport gear and Klim seems to be the go to, at least in America. After watching your video I’m thinking this company and product looks even better. The Klim gear looks very big and boxy. The Rukka looks better fitting. Any thoughts? Cheers from NY. Fellow Pilot and T120 driver!
Well clearly I'm a Rukka fan - but I do hear good things about Klim from others, am I right in thinking they are a US company?
@@TheMissendenFlyer , yes Andy, Klim is a U.S. company. I just bought a new Klim helmet and it is fantastic. The riding gear looks very high quality as well but lots of reviews saying they are cut very large and bulky. The Rukka looks more streamlined…….subjective I suppose. After your review and did a lot of research and the Rukka is in my future! Thanks!
“If you haven’t worn trousers with braces attached you haven’t lived…”
Takes me back to my Father telling me that drinking mild rather than lager would change my life!
I’ve no doubt both are true!!
I agree that Rukka is great quality kit. But what if I don't like black? 😃
Yes, that is a good point, most Motorcycle Clothing manufacturers seem to love black, and I assume that is because it shows the dirt less.
I commented before about the safety rating of the top priced gore tex pro clothing. It is disappointing that they only get an A rating for safety. I have the Dane Nimbus 2 eleven or twelve hundred pound jacket similar to the Rukka. I appreciate the jacket feels pretty robust but feeling pretty robust and being robust are very different hence the single A rating.
What rating is the Dane out of interest?
@@TheMissendenFlyer single A same as the Rukka, I had looked to get the Rukka after finding the Dane had a single A rating only to note it was the same.
@@SouthWest-jj8yu Interesting, thanks for that....
"2 Years and 30,00 Miles" I thought you were reviewing a moto I hadn't heard of before. From Malaysia perhaps? Must be a twin cylinder but what's the displacement? Or is it electric? Now I'm thinking maybe a Vespa clone second edition. That aside, is it tailored? And where are they made? BTW in the States we call them "suspenders", "braces" we go to an orthodontist for.
We go to the lingerie store for suspenders......well some of us (women mostly)....
Amazing review, would love to be able to afford one of them, but then again would love one of them to fit me lol, I have heard thou that they don't not cover the warranty side when used as a business use, so for us motorcycle instructors we dont get the same warranty, do you know if thats true ?
I’ve not heard that before - sounds very odd to me…
CE is only A rated. I went with the Voyage-R which is AA rated.
Have a rukka suit. Its brilliant.
Only gripe 2 zips have failed on me. Out off all my textile gear the rukka suit feels the safest. Also warm weather its no good . I have the held carese evo for summer time .
Tbh i wouldn't buy the nivala gloves again, they leaked after a month then a few months later stitching started to fail.the joys off buying over the Internet. So buy local.
Did you not send them back?
No it was bought over the Internet.
Fancy not wearing one of your own base layers. But I do see a load of new gear winging it's way to your house as we watch the video 🤔👍
Oops - I missed a trick!!! 😜
I can’t get on with the high collars that Rukka jackets have. I sold my comfo-r on eBay because I found the collar restrictive when doing shoulder checks.
I found that with my older Kingsley jacket - no issue with this one though….
Great review MDF, how about reviewing some boots.
Yes, maybe I should, and the best boots I have are definitely from Daytona!
One word, “Daytona.” They are simply brilliant and are extremely comfortable on and off the bike.
Who buys £2.5k of motorcycle jacket and trousers. Ridiculous amount to spend
I've got a set of gardeners waterproofs I wear over my normal bikers gear that cost me £40
Well, I certainly concur that it’s a lot of money, but to answer your question those of us that ride for a living or every day and in all weathers appreciate the best kit that money can buy !
The real test would be how well a Rukka lasts over 10 or 12 years. They used to be “the one to beat” but other makers have now caught up and equalled Rukka quality. It will be interesting to see how Rukka respond to losing such a firm grasp on the premium market sector. Shock horror = with the likes of Stadler & Klim snapping at their heels will they have to drop their prices to stay competitive?
As you say, time will tell!
Everyone is a Rukka hater until they try it. I ride in all weather all over the UK and for the last twenty years have had two Rukka suits. They are simply bombproof and 100% trustworthy.
Not a fan of that stupid chest protector on the latest Nivala… but otherwise all positive… as to cost… 2k over ten years is pretty good I say!
I thought that chest protector would be a nuisance but I've got used to it and am now glad it's there....
A lot of the Rukka stuff only seems to be level one approved
Indeed, and if you talk to them about it, they would argue it’s down to quirks in the testing rather than any lack of safety in their kit. As I think I said in the video it certainly feels like it’s very robust manufacture.
@@TheMissendenFlyer That’s interesting- still freaks me out that it’s only officially abrasion resistant to 30 mph- especially for the price.
Think I need to pop round and help you out with that Estrella TMF....
Nice kit be a lot over my budget,, but it's a great bit of kit ,, seems to have been worth the money 💰☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️ from northern Ireland
If you've got the money and you want it-buy it! Only live once.
I also find that my cheap Wax jacket keeps me warm and dry in all weathers. Mind, I'm in car when it's raining 👍
Well that will make a difference! Out of interest how do you wash your wax jacket? Mine has gone mouldy hung up in the garage!!!
@@TheMissendenFlyer mine did exactly the same this year so I put it in the washing machine on a cold wash ( for which I got a bollocking) and re-waxed it. 👍
I’m a bigger gentleman, I’d rather an XXL Alpine stars jacket, Bull-it jeans, with an additional Dry-rider water proof outer layer, but that’s for Australian weather. Save $$