So fun to see you riding it outside. I love how you are still continuously teaching us stuff with little tips here and there even as you demo ride. Looking really smooth on those manuals.
Another awesome video from you? Yeah I'm not surprised. Watching this in the morning gives me enough doses of encouragement to take my trials bike and go practice. You're the only YT channel I have the notifications on for. I've never been inspired by someone this well. I've been so inspired by you that I bought an inspired bike lol. I can't even believe it myself but after so many years of just dreaming about what it'd feel like to do trials on a bike. My dream of being able to do those things is not just dream anymore. Gonna wear my Super Rider hat proudly. and I have a proposal, can you please travel to the states/cities with the most subscribers and do a one or two days training classes for us? I'll pay whatever it costs to learn from you in person.
Thanks so much for this - it means a lot and keeps me motivated to keep making videos! I had a fun time getting out of the warehouse to ride, and it would be even more fun to travel around and meet everyone in person! Definitely a great idea for the future - let me know where you're based and I'll do my best to make it happen when the time comes!
Have to say this. I try to learn bike handling And begin with look some adry biel bielsa combo Then discover juanda de la pena and i arrive on this lovely channel. Thanks for the content 💕
Good call out on the carbon paste, I was thinking the same thing. Obviously both is a good idea, but I often get away with just carbon paste and no torque wrench.
The call out! The only thing that becomes an issue for the torque wrench is reverse threads or having the wrench set incorrectly. Always double check before you tighten!!! Lots of parts have the markings on them, else consult the manual or online. As for reverse threads my small wrench (5-25nm) appears to work fine in reverse from some quick testing, the digital one I have definitely does but the range is too high (40-200nm) for most things though it does show the numbers below minimum so I should double check for accuracy then use that in reverse like I used to! The larger mechanical one I have (13-150nm) only works to tighten standard direction threads so is useless for reverse threads on pedals and some axles. I had a loose pedal on pre-ride inspection today after having used the small wrench on 25nm even though the only spec for Truvativ Descendant cranks I can find online says 31.2nm, no damage to any threads so it must have happened right at the end of the last ride, it wasn't even a quarter turn out, just unlocked. I'll have to compare to the digital one properly below it's range, or buy another one with the correct range, then set them to the right spec! That said, tight enough and checking things regularly is generally good enough, but if you tighten to spec you can pretty much be sure it's right the first time, you also get consistency and importantly, protection from stripping threads etc. I have a 1.5 to 8nm wrench too which is perfect for doing up the brake lever clamps to 4nm like the manual says so they move when they get hit but don't slide too easily, I know for sure I'm not going to strip them out either!
The bike looks amazing I didn't even know it was chinese. I started recently trials but with slow progress as I am over 30 already. Using an old Monty. I will order the Extention pedals: super cheap and they seem really good (not like other chinese pedals on amazon that have the axle higher than the pins...no grip at all). With this white carbon and smooth lines reminds me of that Canyon prototype Fabio Wibmer is riding lately.
@@SuperRiderTV yes i'll keep following, my feed is full of bike stuff...I was riding MTB sometimes, I can do wheelies a bit of manual maybe and a shy bunnyhop but I always wanted to be able to do more (reach 1 meter bunny hop) and be more technical so I finally joined trial. Everything looks always easy until you try.
Hey - you didn't mention the weight in either vid. I'd assume the carbon bike is much lighter. Can you weigh both your Fourplay and this bike and do a quick follow up with the results? Answering here is fine, too, of course. Love the vids!
I have a topeak nano DX torque tool that fits in a pocket. Has a few of the common bike sizes with 4,5,6 Nm adapters. Might be a good addition to your standard riding kit especially for carbon bars. Nice review on the bike. Do you think there is a such thing as too stiff?
I'll check that one out - thanks so much for this! Great question, too...not sure if it's possible for the frame to be too stiff (my opinion - open to input!), especially since we want the maximum amount of energy transfer through the bike. I feel like if I ever got to the point where I noticed it was too stiff, I'd probably just drop some air out of the tires to soften things up.
@@SuperRiderTV Makes sense. I know in the hardtail MTB world there is much attention to compliance and flex in the rear. I guess in trials your hits are singular and intentional rather than the type of constant chatter encountered on a trail. Found myself wondering if the stiffness would mess with your timing and precision sort of like the difference in spoke windup between disk vs rim brakes.
@@dansacco1964 Interesting for sure - I think you're right, the single hits on the back wheel compared to chatter makes a big difference in the requirement for the frame. I haven't felt it yet, at least..
Canyon won't ship the trials bike to the USA for some reason - and also, this was a test ride from Trials Superstore - they sent me the bike to try out and make a few videos. Would love to eventually ride the Canyon to compare the two carbon bikes!
Does anybody know what is happening with Extention? Do they still exist? The website has been long offline...and the shops I know that had Extention parts, are selling out the parts and not replenishing stocks...
There are quite a few options out there...depending on which style bike you are running. I'm not totally sure if there's a proper aftermarket street trials fork to suggest. I know Crewkerz does a great competition fork for aftermarket, but not totally sure on street. Great question!
A torque wrench won't save you from that. Freshly installed parts need to be stressed a little and re tightened, especially with soft materials like carbon. I've learned the hard way to do this in front of my garage instead of some place less convenient.
Makes sense. It happens every time...hopefully the torque wrench will at least help limit this from happening (or maybe I shouldn't start my test rides with big gaps - haha)
The Hex sort of feels like a chopper after riding this bike. The Extension has a much shorter chainstay and a higher BB, so it’s extremely nimble and easy to move around. I think a few more rides on it and I’d be pushing past all of my personal records for height/distance.
@@SuperRiderTV Curious what the weight difference would be if you strategically picked components for a Hex or even a Fourplay. I recently got a Jitsie Varial Race 26" and it's insanely light compared to my Hex. It's a joy to ride a bike that light, esp. being over 40 where weight and leverage ratios determine how good your back feels after a 2 hr ride :D. I realize there's a still a lot of difference with the 24" and the higher bottom bracket though. Wish I could test one out before committing to buying one since they're quite expensive.
True - I am just now starting to feel comfortable with the shorter wheel base, it took almost the entire first ride to get there. Curious to see what's possible now, though!
So fun to see you riding it outside. I love how you are still continuously teaching us stuff with little tips here and there even as you demo ride. Looking really smooth on those manuals.
Thanks so much!! Felt good to get out (and ride my bike at a time other than 6am!) - definitely need to do more of this!
Man this video must get millions of views. You're super good!!!! Hard working
Thanks so much! 🙏
That manual though!! 👏🏻🙏🏼
Thank you!! Took me more than a few tries to get it right!
Another awesome video from you? Yeah I'm not surprised. Watching this in the morning gives me enough doses of encouragement to take my trials bike and go practice. You're the only YT channel I have the notifications on for. I've never been inspired by someone this well. I've been so inspired by you that I bought an inspired bike lol. I can't even believe it myself but after so many years of just dreaming about what it'd feel like to do trials on a bike. My dream of being able to do those things is not just dream anymore. Gonna wear my Super Rider hat proudly. and I have a proposal, can you please travel to the states/cities with the most subscribers and do a one or two days training classes for us? I'll pay whatever it costs to learn from you in person.
Thanks so much for this - it means a lot and keeps me motivated to keep making videos! I had a fun time getting out of the warehouse to ride, and it would be even more fun to travel around and meet everyone in person! Definitely a great idea for the future - let me know where you're based and I'll do my best to make it happen when the time comes!
@@SuperRiderTV Thanks for such a quick response. I live in Los Angeles 🤘
your skills are definitely amazing! combine it with an awesome bike and youve got one crazy video 😄
Thanks so much!!
your contents were always so exciting....
Thank you!!
Lol, recently just built a 26" carbon hardtail xc bike for trail riding, and ordered just the same shin guard from Amazon 😂
Puhhh this Thinge is sick
So sick! Definitely surprised a bit by how much fun I had with it!
Have to say this.
I try to learn bike handling
And begin with look some adry biel bielsa combo
Then discover juanda de la pena and i arrive on this lovely channel.
Thanks for the content 💕
Thanks so much for watching! Glad that the videos have been helpful!
Neat!
Thank you!
Torque wrench and carbon paste are a must. Man u got skills awesome video
Good call out on the carbon paste, I was thinking the same thing. Obviously both is a good idea, but I often get away with just carbon paste and no torque wrench.
Lesson learned! Thanks for watching!
The call out!
The only thing that becomes an issue for the torque wrench is reverse threads or having the wrench set incorrectly. Always double check before you tighten!!!
Lots of parts have the markings on them, else consult the manual or online.
As for reverse threads my small wrench (5-25nm) appears to work fine in reverse from some quick testing, the digital one I have definitely does but the range is too high (40-200nm) for most things though it does show the numbers below minimum so I should double check for accuracy then use that in reverse like I used to! The larger mechanical one I have (13-150nm) only works to tighten standard direction threads so is useless for reverse threads on pedals and some axles. I had a loose pedal on pre-ride inspection today after having used the small wrench on 25nm even though the only spec for Truvativ Descendant cranks I can find online says 31.2nm, no damage to any threads so it must have happened right at the end of the last ride, it wasn't even a quarter turn out, just unlocked. I'll have to compare to the digital one properly below it's range, or buy another one with the correct range, then set them to the right spec!
That said, tight enough and checking things regularly is generally good enough, but if you tighten to spec you can pretty much be sure it's right the first time, you also get consistency and importantly, protection from stripping threads etc. I have a 1.5 to 8nm wrench too which is perfect for doing up the brake lever clamps to 4nm like the manual says so they move when they get hit but don't slide too easily, I know for sure I'm not going to strip them out either!
After that scare on the gap - I’ll never make that mistake again. We’re going all in on a torque wrench (and carbon paste)!
That manual!
🙌
Are those anti skateboard bumps installed at your bunny hop location? (5:05 ish. )
Enjoyed the video!
Yeah, I think that’s what they are? They seem to be everywhere!
Sei troppo forte potresti prenderti il monociclo sei sempre con una ruota 👏👏👏🤟
Grazie!
The bike looks amazing I didn't even know it was chinese. I started recently trials but with slow progress as I am over 30 already. Using an old Monty. I will order the Extention pedals: super cheap and they seem really good (not like other chinese pedals on amazon that have the axle higher than the pins...no grip at all). With this white carbon and smooth lines reminds me of that Canyon prototype Fabio Wibmer is riding lately.
Awesome - hopefully this channel is super useful for you as you get into the sport! Hit me up if there’s anything you need help with!
@@SuperRiderTV yes i'll keep following, my feed is full of bike stuff...I was riding MTB sometimes, I can do wheelies a bit of manual maybe and a shy bunnyhop but I always wanted to be able to do more (reach 1 meter bunny hop) and be more technical so I finally joined trial. Everything looks always easy until you try.
Pls Part 2.
They told me I could keep it a few more weeks…so…hopefully another video!
Hey - you didn't mention the weight in either vid. I'd assume the carbon bike is much lighter. Can you weigh both your Fourplay and this bike and do a quick follow up with the results? Answering here is fine, too, of course. Love the vids!
I'd like to see this too. A sub 20lb street trials bike might we worth the swap from an aluminum bike.
According to the website it's around 9.3kg, which is quite light for street trials!
I have a topeak nano DX torque tool that fits in a pocket. Has a few of the common bike sizes with 4,5,6 Nm adapters. Might be a good addition to your standard riding kit especially for carbon bars. Nice review on the bike. Do you think there is a such thing as too stiff?
I'll check that one out - thanks so much for this! Great question, too...not sure if it's possible for the frame to be too stiff (my opinion - open to input!), especially since we want the maximum amount of energy transfer through the bike. I feel like if I ever got to the point where I noticed it was too stiff, I'd probably just drop some air out of the tires to soften things up.
@@SuperRiderTV Makes sense. I know in the hardtail MTB world there is much attention to compliance and flex in the rear. I guess in trials your hits are singular and intentional rather than the type of constant chatter encountered on a trail. Found myself wondering if the stiffness would mess with your timing and precision sort of like the difference in spoke windup between disk vs rim brakes.
@@dansacco1964 Interesting for sure - I think you're right, the single hits on the back wheel compared to chatter makes a big difference in the requirement for the frame. I haven't felt it yet, at least..
Hey mate, one question. Why you’ve chosen the extention avenger instead of the canyon trial?
Canyon won't ship the trials bike to the USA for some reason - and also, this was a test ride from Trials Superstore - they sent me the bike to try out and make a few videos. Would love to eventually ride the Canyon to compare the two carbon bikes!
Does anybody know what is happening with Extention? Do they still exist? The website has been long offline...and the shops I know that had Extention parts, are selling out the parts and not replenishing stocks...
Still around - check out Trials Superstore, they just got a new shipment in
any suggestion for a fork without suspension?
There are quite a few options out there...depending on which style bike you are running. I'm not totally sure if there's a proper aftermarket street trials fork to suggest. I know Crewkerz does a great competition fork for aftermarket, but not totally sure on street. Great question!
A torque wrench won't save you from that. Freshly installed parts need to be stressed a little and re tightened, especially with soft materials like carbon. I've learned the hard way to do this in front of my garage instead of some place less convenient.
Makes sense. It happens every time...hopefully the torque wrench will at least help limit this from happening (or maybe I shouldn't start my test rides with big gaps - haha)
How would you compare this bike against the Hex?
The Hex sort of feels like a chopper after riding this bike. The Extension has a much shorter chainstay and a higher BB, so it’s extremely nimble and easy to move around. I think a few more rides on it and I’d be pushing past all of my personal records for height/distance.
That said, I still love my Hex and feel the most comfortable on it. Hard to shake my background as a 26” trials rider!
@@SuperRiderTV Curious what the weight difference would be if you strategically picked components for a Hex or even a Fourplay. I recently got a Jitsie Varial Race 26" and it's insanely light compared to my Hex. It's a joy to ride a bike that light, esp. being over 40 where weight and leverage ratios determine how good your back feels after a 2 hr ride :D. I realize there's a still a lot of difference with the 24" and the higher bottom bracket though. Wish I could test one out before committing to buying one since they're quite expensive.
Which you choose between extention heimdall or inspired flow?
Great question...both solid bikes, but based on the bikes I've ridden, I'd probably go with the Inspired Flow.
@@SuperRiderTV Thanks a lot!
How much does it weigh
It was about 24 pounds when I weighed it - but you could easily drop a few pounds on the wheels alone.
Ok
You need some learning curve even if the bike is pretty good.
True - I am just now starting to feel comfortable with the shorter wheel base, it took almost the entire first ride to get there. Curious to see what's possible now, though!