Kick Serve vs Slice Serve | How to Avoid Slice When Trying to Kick

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  • @IntuitiveTennis
    @IntuitiveTennis  Před 2 lety +1

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  • @rhornjr
    @rhornjr Před 4 lety +146

    I love how quickly and succinctly this guy got to the point. I didn’t have to wait through a long discussion to get the point.

  • @LoneLe3
    @LoneLe3 Před 4 lety +11

    Actually the best explanation. Ive been looking at other videos and the serves look very similar. So even when they try to break it down it gets confusing. Having a straight to the point and easily digestible explanation as well as a succinct break down of how to do each one was actually a blessing. Thanks for the video!

  • @brentaltm
    @brentaltm Před 3 lety +11

    This really helped me understand the mechanics way better. Before, when people were telling me it's a "brushing upward" motion, I didn't really understand how that's physically possible lol but I get it now.

  • @talhakapadia2253
    @talhakapadia2253 Před 4 lety +3

    I have had this problem for a couple of years now and no one was able to explain it so clearly the way you have, will try these changes soon, thank you so much!

  • @vincestook104
    @vincestook104 Před 3 lety +2

    You are the best tennis coach on the net....cheers

  • @Alexander-dt2eq
    @Alexander-dt2eq Před 4 lety +7

    Best analysis and how-to for kick/slice serves. Beginners note: What I noticed is that throwing the ball just a little bit left and doing a "standard" serve motion will automatically let you bend more, hit topspin on the ball and create a kick serve. The difficult part is the consistency. Find it much easier to be consistent with a flat/slice serve than with a kick serve, due to the bending and hitting it left/behind your body center. If you are not 100% accurate with the ball toss, a kick serve is much harder then, since I find it super complicated to correct my serve motion when the ball toss is a little off, whereas with normal serve I can just do a little bit more side spin or hit it flat when ball toss is not 100% accurate

    • @asteriskstar100
      @asteriskstar100 Před 4 lety

      what kind of toss arm direction you use for normal serve ? Toss arm points to right post or parallel to the baseline?

    • @Alexander-dt2eq
      @Alexander-dt2eq Před 4 lety +2

      @@asteriskstar100 for normal serve toss arm points to right post, for 2nd serve it points a little bit more to the baseline

    • @asteriskstar100
      @asteriskstar100 Před 4 lety

      @@Alexander-dt2eq right post for both ad and deuce side?

    • @Alexander-dt2eq
      @Alexander-dt2eq Před 4 lety

      @@asteriskstar100 yes

    • @thomasmedeiros5722
      @thomasmedeiros5722 Před 4 lety

      Alexander If you watch high level tournament play and professional tennis the kick serve is the most frequently used spin serve on second serve and on add out points by servers. The high net clearance and trajectory give you the best margin to clear the net and have the spin bring the ball down and in to the service box. It is also a great first serve in doubles because it allows you to serve and volley. The high arch of the service gives you more time to close in an extra step for your first volley. A well hit kicker jumps above the chest of the player returning serve making it more difficult to hit through the ball on the return especially if they stand behind the baseline.

  • @johnchappell9232
    @johnchappell9232 Před 3 lety +2

    I think they sound different too.
    The sound wave coming from the racket on a kick serve hits the ground and echoes a "phut" sound. On a slice it dissipates into the air like a "shhhshh" sound and on a flat serve it rebounds directly from the ground giving that echo. "Pop!" Sound..
    I followed your advice in the kick serve video, and it really works!! Many thanks.

  • @ReidVV
    @ReidVV Před 4 lety +29

    I think most coaches "think" they describe and coach the differences in striking the ball for the kick vs the slice serve that you show in this video, however; most don't get it done as clearly as you do. Thanks.

  • @narcyznarcyz-uv4td
    @narcyznarcyz-uv4td Před 4 lety +7

    I have wached many videos how to improve or correct your slice and top spin serve and this is the best one.. Simply and well explained.

  • @Alaster488
    @Alaster488 Před 4 lety +14

    bro. your tips in this video helped me so much in my practice today. i finally was able to hit a kick and a slice serve. your instruction just makes it so clear compare to other instructors. thank you so much

  • @hochiglenn
    @hochiglenn Před 3 lety +1

    Cant thank you enough for this video. It clicked for me when you said 12 o’clock is in front of your left shoulder. I thought I was tossing to 12 o’clock but was more 1 o’clock. I would ask people if my ball is jumping up and they said no it’s barely coming up off the ground. Now I can tell when I get good kick. Definitely keeping toss at 12 (in front of left shoulder!) and staying sideways generates the topspin I was lacking for so long. Game changer. Thanks Nick!!

  • @mikie6453mikie
    @mikie6453mikie Před 4 lety +11

    Best explanation of problems and solutions for slice and kick serves, even for us 4.0's, especially the "toss behind you" which confuses many.

  • @sentret
    @sentret Před rokem +1

    this is by far, the clearest explanation of the subject on CZcams. thank you so much.

  • @RoughRider757
    @RoughRider757 Před 4 lety +8

    Thank you for breaking it down by using a time clock for a point of reference. Graphs make instructions so much easier to understand.

  • @jamiecho
    @jamiecho Před 3 lety +2

    Extremely clear explanations and demonstrations of the 2 serve types. The best I've seen!

  • @grishkazumba
    @grishkazumba Před 4 lety +11

    Best tennis coaching channel on CZcams, no questions asked. Keep up the great job!

  • @ebb3162
    @ebb3162 Před 4 lety +37

    The best explanation to kick and slice I've ever watched. And you can do a demo as well. Well done and thank you so much for sharing. :)

  • @geoffhess2267
    @geoffhess2267 Před 3 lety +2

    This video is one great problem-solver! Recently, my kick serve, which I spent a long time learning, started failing me in my doubles matches. Well, what was happening was that I had unconsciously allowed my kick serve toss position (12:00) to gradually deteriorate toward more of a 1:00 slice position. And my shoulders were opening up toward the court preventing the necessary bottom-to-top stoke path. This video nailed the solution. Played doubles yesterday, and my kick serve is back! Thanks Coach Aracic for highlighting these critical aspects for avoiding slice when you want kick.

  • @kwok1411
    @kwok1411 Před 4 lety +7

    So many good points to tell the watcher how to make a good slice serve and a kick serve. I enjoy the lesson. Well done.

  • @michaelchang-zi6lp
    @michaelchang-zi6lp Před 4 lety +4

    Excellent video.

  • @IamnotJohnFord
    @IamnotJohnFord Před 3 lety +2

    Great video. I sometimes wind up with a slice/kick serve mainly because of an errant ball toss.

  • @TimmieTennis
    @TimmieTennis Před 4 lety +4

    Excellent explanation of the difference in the angle of the racquet at contact, slice vs kick. Thx!

  • @P3u99
    @P3u99 Před 4 lety +6

    Thank you! I have learnt so much from your vids and been able to apply them on court. Vastly improved in every area but more than anything else your vids on the serve are super good. Finally someone to tell us about how pronation works intuitively rather than something that’s manufactured.

  • @allansmith8643
    @allansmith8643 Před 4 lety +2

    Good right to the point

  • @anubla329
    @anubla329 Před 4 lety +6

    Thank you for explaining and demonstrating the difference between a spin and a slice serve. I've always wondered why I keep slicing when trying to spin serve. I will definitely practice what you've shown here. Hope I'll get it right.

  • @vinodkumarkaliyanthil2969

    It was a great lession Nick. How beautifully and straight to the point you described and showed us the differences. Thanks a ton!! waiting for more lessions.

  • @nelson2020
    @nelson2020 Před 4 lety +2

    Very good video, precisely to the point

  • @andrewyu3
    @andrewyu3 Před 2 lety +2

    Thank you for explaining the difference!

  • @ripleypipe
    @ripleypipe Před 4 lety +6

    Illuminating explanation and demonstration Nik, you're a class act. Gordon

  • @pats300zx
    @pats300zx Před 4 lety +7

    Love your channel Nick !!! Another fantastic video. The illustrations are so helpful.

  • @BBobby-kg3vr
    @BBobby-kg3vr Před 4 lety +7

    Wow....superb video and explanation...this is eye opener for me ...thank you so much 🙏👏🙌

  • @hoyaboarder
    @hoyaboarder Před 4 lety +6

    Yes, I was having a problem with kick serve, and could not differentiate one to the other. I will practice the way you show me tomorrow and see how I go. :) thanks alot

  • @hansolsson3409
    @hansolsson3409 Před rokem +1

    I got a slice when i wanted a kick, happened yesterday!My journey to a second serve begins now! Great video Nick! 😀

  • @gustavocolombo6841
    @gustavocolombo6841 Před 4 lety +2

    Clear as water, thanks and kudos from Brasil!

  • @paullee1521
    @paullee1521 Před 2 lety +1

    his volley video is good as well. simple tips which would greatly improve most players volleys.

  • @marks7346
    @marks7346 Před 4 lety +4

    Thank you for the toss tips, I played after watching the video with that in mind and really solved my double faults issue. :)

  • @cilami
    @cilami Před 4 lety +14

    Really a great video. You have a special ability to explain things and also to choose the subjects to be posted. Among my three favorite online coaches I am using to learn this fantastic sport. Thanks! Once I learn the basics online and practicing/filming myself, I plan to take a few classes...to make a reality check. The problem could be to find a good coach not too distant from where I live. P.S.: How far into the court is the toss? Adding a side view would be very useful for begginers.

  • @kjfoehr
    @kjfoehr Před 4 lety +8

    Great coaching, as always, Nick! Thank you!

  • @iben6234
    @iben6234 Před 3 lety +2

    I love this channel : one of the best on Tennis !

  • @dmitryprivate6558
    @dmitryprivate6558 Před 4 lety +12

    Hi Nikola. Excellent video, as always. And I am glad you clarify the toss position behind/front vs. left/right. My question: you toss in front for both kick and slice (and not behind) and left for the kick (like 12 o’clock) and right for the slice (1 o’clock)? Correct?
    Maybe you could sometimes also do a video on how to avoid slice when trying a flat server (it happens to me a lot).
    Thank you.

  • @markbury2094
    @markbury2094 Před rokem +1

    Your kick serve videos are great
    I’m a 4/4.5 with a decent flat and slice
    Hoping to add in the kick by next summer using your videos
    Thanks so much !!

  • @Wooist
    @Wooist Před 3 lety +2

    this was incredibly helpful i know will not make the mistake of hitting a slice serve when i was really trying to do a kick serve

  • @mrjohnsonfong
    @mrjohnsonfong Před 4 lety +2

    Thank you very much.

  • @raghavkapur185
    @raghavkapur185 Před 4 lety +6

    Brilliantly explained Nikola .. Thank you! 🙏

  • @gregderivative2647
    @gregderivative2647 Před 4 lety +6

    great explanations, easy to digest and practice. thanks!

  • @Android18uk
    @Android18uk Před 4 lety +6

    You are amazing! I think you have just saved my very amateur tennis career

  • @panrijesh
    @panrijesh Před 4 lety +6

    Beautifully explained. I wish if u can explain the kick serve from deuce court. Thank you

  • @transdata3035
    @transdata3035 Před 3 lety +2

    Great lesson. Thanks

  • @Armando_Lara
    @Armando_Lara Před 4 lety +5

    This is a video I was waiting for. Thanks master!

  • @lnorrisnorris4080
    @lnorrisnorris4080 Před 4 lety +6

    I'm a beginner. What are the different types of serves??? Thank you. I enjoyed your video.

  • @kakashihatake1029
    @kakashihatake1029 Před 4 lety +6

    Thank you so much for this. I recently remodelled my serve but my kick serve was struggling as a result. I think the ball toss was the issue but I think you may have solved that for me

  • @dipankarganguli
    @dipankarganguli Před 2 lety +2

    big fan of your videos

  • @enriquemorin5569
    @enriquemorin5569 Před 4 lety +5

    Very good video

  • @harishpavant
    @harishpavant Před 2 lety +2

    Thanks for existing!

  • @nd7434
    @nd7434 Před 4 lety +2

    excellent video, loved how you got straight to the point.

  • @ISI.O
    @ISI.O Před 4 lety +6

    Best video recommendation ever

  • @DiegoHernandez-pw4fj
    @DiegoHernandez-pw4fj Před 4 lety +5

    Great explanation

  • @arturoalmaraz5520
    @arturoalmaraz5520 Před 4 lety +2

    Hola Maestro Nick, muchas gracias por su excelente explicación en éste vídeo sobre el servicio

  • @the1tfactor
    @the1tfactor Před 4 lety +6

    Really great information. I have definitely been rotating my torso too much. I will work on this today! Thank you very much.

  • @didanhtennis
    @didanhtennis Před 4 lety +4

    Really good video. Thank you.

  • @hubbarazor
    @hubbarazor Před 4 lety +7

    Congratulations, u earned new subscriber☺

  • @aisfly
    @aisfly Před 4 lety +2

    just cut straight to the points!Much appreciated!

  • @danielgomezgarzon
    @danielgomezgarzon Před 4 lety +6

    Great video again !!!!!

  • @SupremeTennis
    @SupremeTennis Před 4 lety +5

    Great vid man! Hoping to do one of these on my channel soon too. Keep up the good work 👍

  • @melaniescott4880
    @melaniescott4880 Před rokem +1

    Thanks Nick. Somehow I missed the importance of shoulder rotation (or not! ) in the kick serve - this is going to help me a lot! 😊

  • @andrewhwang8951
    @andrewhwang8951 Před 4 lety +5

    Haha! It's like you made this just for me, Nick! Great video - work in progress but I really do feel like i know what I'm trying to do now. Thanks!

  • @manjucs2331
    @manjucs2331 Před 4 lety +6

    Very well explained Nick. You understand the mindset of all types of players. Great video. Thanks heaps.

  • @davidyasui9357
    @davidyasui9357 Před 4 lety +6

    When you hit your slice serve, are you pronating? If so, how can you can do that if your palm is to "face the sky" on the finish? BTW, this is a very informative video. You talk about the slice and kick serves, the ball direction and placement on the toss. A must watch for many reasons.

    • @drmoto64
      @drmoto64 Před 4 lety +2

      It looks like you are pronating at contact but then you supinate a bit so the face is pointed upwards. I hold my pronation and my slice is good. That seems like a personal preference. Is that correct? What I do want to say is that thanks to your videos, my kick serve has improved considerably and I can get about 1/3 to kick to the right without losing speed. I look at quite a few sites and even have paid some pretty good money but I have found I get the most from your videos. You are a great teacher.

  • @pedrojose392
    @pedrojose392 Před 3 lety +2

    Good aftermoon! I apologize for my poor Enlish!. Congratulations for the vídeo. It is very clear. I do not know yet how to serve either kick or slice. But I begun to try. What is a difficult to me, it is how I give the direction in the kick service. It is suposed to not twist my body (shoulders). I would be everless gratiful if you can give me a tip.

    • @IntuitiveTennis
      @IntuitiveTennis  Před 3 lety

      I can’t diagnose strokes without seeing them

    • @pedrojose392
      @pedrojose392 Před 3 lety

      @@IntuitiveTennis I think, I was not clear. Sorry, I am not a native languager as my name does not hide. What I mean it's how I make the ball reachs the correct box. Mainly, if I am at the deuce court.

  • @evenkat6780
    @evenkat6780 Před 4 lety +4

    Excellent and crisp video, this is exactly what happens to me. Slicing when I want to kickserve. Tomm will try out. By the way at 11 or 12 o position, toss should be forward or slightly behind ?

    • @IntuitiveTennis
      @IntuitiveTennis  Před 4 lety +3

      Thank you
      Slightly forward
      czcams.com/video/j6c1WPIsk_8/video.html

  • @roberthaykal234
    @roberthaykal234 Před 4 lety +1

    Very helpful videos, I only wish you also talked where to hit the ball on each serve, on 11 o'clock, down, 7 o'clock up or 2 o'clock etc. Please should you have the time can you please tell us explicitly where do you intend to hit the ball and what is the trajectory and placement expected with each serve type ? Thank you

  • @Itsmeword
    @Itsmeword Před rokem +1

    Thank you for this 💕

  • @59cadfins
    @59cadfins Před 4 lety +5

    Solid video. Thx.

  • @sstp614
    @sstp614 Před 4 lety +4

    Omg nikola! You look fabulous man! Murray state!

  • @MrCatOwner
    @MrCatOwner Před 4 lety +2

    Great tips!

  • @venkatesannatarajan
    @venkatesannatarajan Před rokem

    I would also love to see a side view to get to know better how and where the ball is getting tossed for kick, slice and flat serves. Would it be possible for you to share this ? Thank you

  • @silentquartz1124
    @silentquartz1124 Před 4 lety +3

    Wow thnx

  • @coilinnunan4058
    @coilinnunan4058 Před 4 lety +7

    Thank you for the excellent video. When you are trying to toss the ball at 12 o'clock, i.e. in line with your left shoulder for right-handers, do you you tend to have your toss arm pointing more towards the net than for a toss to 1 o'clock? Or do you use the same position for your toss arm irrespective of the final ball position you are aming for, whether 11 o'clock, 12 or 1? If the latter, is this not more difficult to achieve consistently?

  • @jd2722
    @jd2722 Před rokem +1

    This video is gold

  • @shriramoka
    @shriramoka Před 4 lety +4

    Hi nick. Gr8 video. I generally struggle to make serves down the T whether slice or kick, and esp in the advt. Court. What can I do to improve my target control? Tks s lot and superb explanations 👌👍🎯

    • @IntuitiveTennis
      @IntuitiveTennis  Před 4 lety +1

      Thank you Shiram
      Try targets czcams.com/video/TJDxWXXHQmQ/video.html

  • @laurencecorray
    @laurencecorray Před 4 lety +4

    Brilliant advice. Light bulb moment for me.

  • @cardellamalcolm259
    @cardellamalcolm259 Před 3 lety

    do a video about flat serve and more types of volleys

  • @P3u99
    @P3u99 Před 4 lety +1

    Hi could you make a vid about footwork please ? Thank you

  • @tenten1320
    @tenten1320 Před 4 lety

    とても分かりやすい解説でした。本当にありがとうございます。

  • @PrecisionPointTennis
    @PrecisionPointTennis Před rokem +1

    Just fantastic 🤗🏆

  • @MadMax-yq1xb
    @MadMax-yq1xb Před 3 lety

    This video is super helpful. Easy to understand the mechanism of both slice and kick serve. But I have one serious question about kick serve.
    How do you toss and swing when you are on the deuce side. It can not be same as Add side since the aim is opposite side of swinging direction. I have never seen someone talks about it. Please show it to me. Thanks

    • @IntuitiveTennis
      @IntuitiveTennis  Před 3 lety +2

      It’s the same, directional control depends on the angle of the racquet face at contact czcams.com/video/lyUzuW_ZeL0/video.html

  • @farafabdel5236
    @farafabdel5236 Před rokem

    Hey
    Great tips
    Thanks

  • @robins7594
    @robins7594 Před 4 lety +2

    Super

  • @techsocial626
    @techsocial626 Před 3 lety +2

    Right handed, slice serve out wide at deuce. ❤️

  • @jatojo
    @jatojo Před 4 lety

    The backward toss and bended lower back have many advantages when performing a kick serve. But it is tough on your back, and as I'm getting older, I get more and more problems with it.

  • @tennisfitapp
    @tennisfitapp Před 4 lety +5

    Good video Nikola! :-)

  • @Hyper_V
    @Hyper_V Před 2 lety

    this is really good explanation! thank you.
    I have a quick question - so it seems like you can more easily disguise whether you re going to hit a flat or slice serve since you are basically tossing the ball in the same position, however, if you are trying for a kick serve, if your opponent is more observant they would see that a kick is coming from the position of your ball toss since it's more behind you?

  • @bigthink8239
    @bigthink8239 Před rokem

    Love the advice! Just wondering why do I need to have the palm facing toward the sky on the finish to create a slice serve, as mentioned in 7:02?

  • @superjinx
    @superjinx Před 4 lety +2

    How about aiming the kick serve to the outside or down the line? Do we change the racket face or adjust the initial standing position?

    • @IntuitiveTennis
      @IntuitiveTennis  Před 4 lety

      Change of the angle of the racquet face czcams.com/video/lyUzuW_ZeL0/video.html

  • @quinby123
    @quinby123 Před 4 lety +6

    Great tips Nick. Are you about 6'3"? Tall players can make kick serves bounce higher because their contact point is higher.

  • @mohamednageh139
    @mohamednageh139 Před 3 lety

    As a coach you know very well the importance of the back leg load in the serve ESPECIALLY KICK SERVE...
    I saw some of your serve video but you never make back leg loading.
    Can you explain please...
    Thanks..

    • @IntuitiveTennis
      @IntuitiveTennis  Před 3 lety

      There is no back leg loading on the best serves in history
      czcams.com/video/rSPc480H9uo/video.html
      czcams.com/video/3Tzk6IAH4VQ/video.html

    • @mohamednageh139
      @mohamednageh139 Před 3 lety

      @@IntuitiveTennis So all pros don't make loading on the bag leg ?

  • @gladheateherfruehauf4230

    Hitting to add ct foot is 45 toward net post. When serving deuce ct, where does left foot point for a righty? I find myself with left foot straight with centerline, or perpendicular to baseline.

  • @EskoTV-VIDEO
    @EskoTV-VIDEO Před 4 lety

    Is pronation essential in slice serve? Does the racket go sideways pass the ball from right in slice serve? One recreational player asking (I had to look for that word in dictionary ;) ). Thank you for your nice information about these serves with pictures.

    • @IntuitiveTennis
      @IntuitiveTennis  Před 4 lety +1

      It’s not essential czcams.com/video/_FSrdt4zUZE/video.html

  • @jsteed44
    @jsteed44 Před 4 lety

    This clock is it above my head or in line with my nose? great video