Star Trek STNG Moments 27 The Child
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This is taken from my Star Trek The Next Generation Moments project that I'm working on. The project will show the best of STNG in a series of memorable moments from each episode. Still have some work to do on it, see what you think.
But please watch it from my STNG Moments Playlist, that way you can see each episode as they are meant to be seen. • TNG Moments Season Two
Summery
Episode :27 Dr. Pulaski joins the Enterprise while La Forge prepares the Enterprise to transport dangerous plague specimens; Deanna spontaneously becomes pregnant and gives birth to a mysterious child. - Hudba
"Counselor Troi is pregnant. She... She's going to have a baby."
Yes, Captain. We know what "pregnant" means.
Apparently Riker did not know, he was surprised to hear the word baby. He thought she was going to have a sandwish.
I've always thought that the surprise came as a consequence of excellent methods of contraception. That the shock and uncertainty of the initial discussion came from the idea that she was pregnant at all.
I love how Will and Data are so protective of Deanna while she is having her baby. And she knew her Imzadi, Will, was watching over her and then his words to her and the way he kissed her was so sweet. Beautiful scene.
CeltycSparrow till he gets friend zoned.
Data shows way too many emotions in this episode
Riker's love for Deanna never gets old
I love how Riker is like WTF BABY?!??!?!
Look at it, it was ugly as fuck, no wonder lmao, big fish lips for a kid
Worf: kill it with fire !
Little Asian Penis
lmao
He is much calmer about it than I would be. Everyone is, really. I know they've dealt with a lot, but having an announcement that somebody at the table with you got pregnant this morning should be fairly surprising.
Riker's is like how did I knock her UP?!
I like to think Tori is so calm and accepting of the situation because she can sense the being/baby/presence has no ill intent towards her or the ship.
I love this episode, Data is especially cute in this one. My favourite part is when he panics at 2:08, he's so cute! :D
You can see how Riker panics when he finds out Deanna is pregnant, but after he learns she was actually impregnated by some alien life form, he seems very relieved like he just dodged a bullet...
He might've dodged a raging Lwxana!
Riker had a face literally like, what the hell you mean she pregnant lol
if only childbirth was this easy
I love that Data was there to hold her hand and witness something as beautiful as having a baby.
According to published sources, a year and a half following the events of “Star Trek: Nemesis,” Deanna and Will became parents of their firstborn, Natasha Troi-Riker, named after their late comrade, Natasha Yar (Denise Crosby). If we follow the real-life passage of time, Natasha would currently be about 13 or 14 years old by now. If there was a real series of “Star Trek: Titan,” I don’t know who would be cast as Nat. I do still want a series like that to happen, though.
I do too I would love to see Riker on his first command
You’re in luck. In the new series Picard the oldest daughter is about that age.
Riker is like DAYUM!? Baby?!?!
Delivery was like a 24th century group hug.
No his not the dad.A life form that chanced upon them wished to know about them.So he entered Troi's body and entered the world in human form,to better understand them.In it's natural state the life form is pure energy,which it converts back to at the end of the episode.
The ending was so emotional.
Cleanest newborn baby I've ever seen.
Some people say Deanna was raped… I wouldn't say that because there was no actual sexual assault, but she was violated. While the life form that entered her meant no harm it used her body for a selfish purpose. The part that does bother me about this episode is the way Picard puts her pregnancy out there to other male officers while Pulaski shows slides of the inside of her body and they all debate on whether she should get an abortion while she's sitting right there without even asking her.
there is an episode where she does get mind raped though
I think she got raped 3 to 4 times through the series and movies. It's always her, no other character, just Troi. The writers couldn't think up anything better. Note, not counting Tasha Year and her home world filled with rape gangs. thank heavens she was killed off before Troi had an episode to visit that place.
Well, I assume Pulanski let her know the scans would be going up, and got permission. I also don't think the show was approving of the way the male officers were discussing options without including her, either. She does stand up for herself, insisting on her choice, and that immediately shuts them up. It's a scene highlighting and approving of a woman's right to choose, I would say.
She got raped at least three times, that I recall They were often gratuitous, and handled badly - and Marina Sirtis often played them in a very ham way too, which didn't help.. I'll split my comment into a few comments, as my computer is refusing to paragraph right now: 1. There was this occasion (I would call it rape, even though it wasn't for sexual gratification, and the alien may not have understood issues of consent. However, entering her body without consent, and impregnating her without consent, could still very likely damage her emotionally as rape, even if the alien's understanding was different). However, other than her choosing whether to keep the child conceived from the act, she shows little emotional effects consistent with being used like that - at the end, she is even joyous when the alien let's her know it meant no harm, as if that makes any natural distress arising from boundaries being overridden entirely ok (I worked in a hospital with rapists with learning disabilities. many of whom genuinely did not mean 'any harm', and didn't comprehend the boundaries they overrode. Let me tell you, this never 'cured' the emotional injuries to the victims).
Crazy Hai well said
This episode was originally written for “Star Trek: Phase II” by Jaron Summers & Jon Povill. Maurice Hurley rewrote it to fit in with TNG. The original version was finally realized as part of the fan-series, “Star Trek: New Voyages/Phase II” with Jon Povill himself directing it, in addition to some minor rewriting.
@Bobbie Charles unfortunately, we don’t have a full version of the “Phase II” version of that script officially available.
data is good in this episode his curiosity into how a new life is brought into the world makes this less sucky a episode
I noticed that early seasons Data is more emotional I guess i would call it. He would make puzzled faces when things didn't make sense and had cute little grins. But in later seasons he stopped.
Data makes everything better lol
Yeah, we’ll never get the answers to Data’s questions. I had those questions as well. Was there even a debate among Betazoids about abortion? Since full Betazoids can read thoughts and emotions, I wonder what they perceive from a fetus/baby.
I like this episode. People are rough.
@@christianhafer9819 Yeah, I don't think anyone could call it a "sucky episode" after watching the puppy scene.
Haha Worf was called in, if alien baby attacks.
This also one of my favourites, they manages to pulloff a tricky bit of acting with humour and just the right amount of emotion.
Beautiful name for a beautiful baby, he looks like his mother :)
I love Dr. Pulaski!
Many didn't which is why Dr Crusher returns in the following season. But I liked the character but was also happy when Beverley returned.
Thank you for the reminder about what happened to the baby at the end of the show. It has been SO long since I watched this episode I had forgotten. I'm going to date myself with this one but I have all 88 VCR tapes for Next Gen. I got one a month for YEARS and I paid anywhere from 15-25.00 for them at the time. Ohhhhh the money I spent!
I know Beth, we all did, I used to pay £10 a time for very poor quality pirated VHS tapes from America of episodes that were months ahead of what was being show in the U.K.. Thats the love we all had and still have for the series, its such a shame we dont have a Star Trek TV series on now, thanks to Rick Berman.
Now THAT is love DarMok!! I remember that I wasn't 18 yet so I didn't have a checking account with the bank. In order to pay for the tapes you had to write a check so I asked my mom to write the check to pay for it *I gave her the money* and my dad used to complain about the cost of the actual paper check LOL Lordy he was cheap! And of course the idea that I was spending "that kind of money!" on ONE VCR tape a month drove him bonkers. Thank you for responding to my post, it has made me think back and what a laugh this memory is for me!
Why is it Dad's are always cheap.....My own had his moments and when I come to think about it so did I when my kids were growing up. Maybe its that all men have a careful responcible fatherly outlook on the future of thier money.
I think you're right about that. I am the youngest of 9 and my mom stayed at home to raise us so he was financially responsible for supporting a large family. I have to say he did an amazing job, sometimes working more than one job when the oldest 5 were so young. I was fortunate to learn a lot from my folks and of course I didn't fully appreciate them until I was grown and had my own kids.
Could'nt agree more, I'm also from a large family but more in the middle group that also acted as unpayed baby and child minders. Those days were very hard so why do people aways look back so fondly. (Well we had it rough, 13 of us living in shoebox in the middle of road and you try and tell the kids today that and they wont belive you.) 4 Yorkshireman Monty Python. :-).
Riker: "It's not my kid!"
I wanted to see the end of this when she has to call the doc for an emergency
Amazing! I'm Fine, says Troy.
Pulaski “Do you have a name?”
Troi “Ian Andrew. After my father.”
Riker ( thinks) ‘Oh. Not Will.’
This episode, and the one where Lal dies, are the two saddest episodes in all of Trekdom (I’m not counting movies, or I’d have to throw in The a Wrath of Khan and Nemesis as well.) Does anyone have other candidates?
for me is inner light and pen pals the most saddest episodes
poor little girl erasing your memory
One minute, 44 seconds.
That is all.
Okay one more thing: as a father who was present for birth, that baby is way too clean for suspension of disbelief.
And as one who is interminably infatuated: Riker is jealous but will never say it.
I agree with the Riker comment and yes birth is never as clean as this or quite. The reason it's not very long as that at the time I wanted to make the edits as short as possible. They did get longer and those were brought down over copyright claims, my newer edit are therefore shorter but longer then this particular edit. Does that make any sense.?
@Невада большевик
Well to be fair, it is growing at an accelerated rate.
@Невада большевик
I think the episode has the child going from infancy to school-age in about a week, which would put its growth rate at the human equivalent of a month every 2 hours, so if you figure the birth itself took a few hours it's not outside the established parameters for it to look like a 1 month old upon emergence.
@Невада большевик
Ouch indeed. Thankfully it somehow made Troi able to give birth without any pain. I do wonder if the child had to consume a normal amount of food in order to grow, or if it was drawing from some other kind of energy source.
The best line is yet to come. the doctor tells them Deanna is healed like she has never had a baby. I want some of that miracle. Lol.
About the baby being too clean, you gotta remember this is supposed to be set in the 24th century. Maybe they have some kinda sonic cleaner device?
This episode is kinda sad.
Considering what happens later....
where can i watch the full episode? it seems hard to find a full episode
I think it's still on Amazon Prime.
Zero to full term in less than 50 hours? Wouldn't that tear apart her abdominal wall?
Seems the alien used its powers to keep Deanna healthy and well the whole time.
I would think it would also cause severe depletion of nutrients developing that fast, in addition to trauma of the body
Yes, yes it would but disregard that for the sake of plot.
very campy and very funny
One of those that aren't fans of this episode is one SF Debris. Then again, he's just a viewer with an opinion.
This whole episode was kinda weird.
How is Deanna able to hear Data´s thoughts?
She wasn't hearing their thoughts but hearing the conversation in the room while emotionally within her own dilemma. The crews conversation was background noise to her decision making of what she was about to say, that she was keeping the child. The way it was presented was a little confusing but putting over a person's thought processes is difficult on camera. Thank's for you input.
i want to see a video where the child has to leave her
I noticed that it wasn't, circumcised to improve health and hygiene.
Didn't they steal this idea from "Space:1999"?
The pregnancy is just been developed to a fetus. but it's hard to push it out for 3hrs and it may hurt and It grows into a child. I hope deanna's baby grows up into a child soon.
Towards the end of the show the child dies. A life force entity enter Deanna's body.
Great episode. Love myself some Pulaski.
So who was the baby exactly? Is it Q?
It was an alien that wanted to study humans.
Shouldn't it have chosen a human then?
Not specifically humans, but humanoid/anthropoid beings in general.
Am I the only one who, when Dr. Pulaski asks Deanna whether she's picked out a name for her "son", thought she replied "Ianandra"? Most fan sites list the child's name as "Ian Andrew", but that's not what I heard. Even though Troi and everyone else does address him as "Ian" throughout the episode, I assumed that it might be a shortened version of his name (like "Drew" for "Andrew"). Just for the record, "Ianandra" is an actual male name -- from Indonesia. (And quite a lovely one, in my opinion).
Also, on an unrelated topic: I've always been of the opinion that, whenever somebody deliberately mispronounces somebody else's name, as Pulaski does with Data, they should be slapped across the face -- HARD -- and informed that this procedure will be repeated every time the offense is repeated. I rather suspect that there would be no second time.
How does a mother feel NO PAIN during a birthing without any medication whatsoever?? Is that even possible??
SupremeChaos918 Due to the alien's influence. It's never been through birth before after all, how would it know what it's supposed to be like?
Of course it's possible.
Slippery boi
I don't say that the are anyy stupid questions. But, Data question to Dina if they aree telepathcly linked are.
She's a Betazoid. It's possible.
This is too reminiscent of a "Space:1999" episode called 'Alpha Child's. Almost plagarism.
Virginia Connor No. This originally would have been in Star Trek Phase II if it had come to be. The story and a couple others were salvaged so they could be aired.
What's the baby's name?
Ian
Riker got friendzoned so badly
Well. the man doesn't seem great parent material here. When Picard announces she's pregnant, he doesn't seem to know what that entails. When Picard adds: 'she's going to have a baby', he suddenly exclaims: 'a baby!' Wouldn't trust him to be able to deal with pregnancy cravings and wet nappies in the night. Questions would probably include: 'why's the baby leaking?', etc ;)
@@crazyhai8155 You act as if any man is prepared for an unexpected pregnancy.
No drugs no pain easy peasy Japanesey delivery. Deanna is a trooper.
Ok.....
that giant fetus is pretty creepy
Who is the father?
There is none.
The baby itself. It was an energy being that wanted to experience human life. At the end of the episode it reverted back to its original form and told Tori thank you before departing from the ship.
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What is the fate of the child?
As I remember the child transforms back to a being of pure energy and leave the she and Troi.
@@DarMokChannelSTMoments so sad that Troy got to lost his child twice. Thanks anyway sir
Who was the DAD???
The glowy dot thing
I, personally, am indifferent towards the episode.
What a weird episode
So this is what happens when you get pregnant from a quickie.
This was a weird episode, but to be honest, if I ever had a kid, that's how I would want it to go... 9 months of pregnancy in less than 24 hours, pain-free delivery, and no man involved. It couldn't be better!
Women will always stick up for there kids.
Mostly, but not always.
Yes women always stick up for "their" kids.
back off datadog, iams accidentally kicking her because of the evil human spluggorth aboard our ship
is Riker the dad?
Yes!! Star Trek tng pro life!!!
MegaTylerwilson Not really. It’s very pro-choice. Troi said she was having it and that was the end of the discussion. All the men shut up. As it should be. Only the woman involved should have the right to decide.
That's just Troi though.
I prefer Pulaski over crusher
Me, too!
Most people do.
I like both
I like both, but I would rather my life were in Pulaski's hands.
No they don't. If they did, Pulaski wouldn't have only lasted one season.
real baby making generic stock baby sound effects 0/10
Deanna the Enterprise brood mare mostly for Riker but who knows what else she is up to on her crew councillor journeys around the ship and flings with guests, Clingons, and then unaccountably up the duff much to Rikers displeasure....even though unconvincingly vouched for by the ship’s doctors ‘virgin pregnancy’ story...
Ugh the "Troi magic space-baby", horrible episode. The reason she didn't feel the usual pain of labour, because that would hammer home what the writers want to just hand-wave away. That she was violated, impregnated against her will.
Ive never seen this episode.
I can see why.
Everyone is acting weird. Data gets nervous?
And then it discusses Abortion.
But notice the Fetus is described as a living being.
Liberals would hate that.
Well… she’s ruined….
This episode is pathetic