@@LithiumSolar Its always a good day when you post a video. I love seeing you tear down these batteries and see if they are decent quality. You must have a good amount of harvested cells and hopefully you have been building or adding to your current capacity in your own main solar system
@@catch22frubert Adding to my solar system capacity is the plan, haven't done so just yet though. I'm trying to plan out my next move with all of that and will likely get something figured out in the spring with new equipment. I have a lot of ideas floating around and don't want to have to do it twice - need to plan.
I'm glad you do the battery teardown's. I think it forces the builders to do a better job knowing their batteries build quality will be exposed like this. The wiggly rubber shots were hilarious 😂
A trend I am noticing in these breakdowns is that in many of them, the actual case if far larger than it needs to be. A lot of us are using these in cars/trucks so the physical size is actually a factor. I have noticed some significant size differences between the common brands. Frankly I like the size of that one out of the case. Honestly it looks like 200Ah of those would fit in many 100Ah cases. Space is a premium in my truck and I want as much battery as possible in the least amount of space.
@@LithiumSolar Thanks for your feedback. I've got a more general questions about the charging current of the barttery. If my alternator is giving 150A, will the battery will take 100A, or will it be more restrained by the BMS ? Thanks in advance.
We all know that cheaper isn’t always better, but I think it’s time for our minds to shift from thinking that just because things cost less that they’re also closer to being garbage. Lithium has been around long enough for prices to be in this battery’s area. My only concern with this battery is the “rubber matter”. That will definitely create issues for the cells covered… no possible ventilation. Thanks for the video.
At $279 each it makes this battery the least expensive lithium batteries per watt hour on the market presently, that I would consider purchasing for a large 48V battery bank system. Even for a 12V or 24V system, this is a very inexpensive battery. My biggest concern is the reliability of the BMS and the cells that are being used because, I can't find anything out about either one of them. Great video again, however, just like the rest of the videos you put out. Thanks!
There was no mention if the BMS would support a series connection of these batteries together to get a 24v or 48v system. The Amazon listing does say you can combine four batteries together for 48V but says that they recommend charging the batteries separately, which doesn't give me a lot of confidence in using it in such an arrangement.
Cool to see something different. If I ordered one I'd probably pull that temp sensor off the fets and try to get it hanging out of the BMS...do you think two sets of cells could fit in one of their cases if someone wanted to condense space? That would require adding a second set of terminals but the box is so dang big....
I really like your channel. I watch a few others. One thing I think you can do better is when they offer to send an item. Don't give then your address. Tell them you going to buy it directly. Then once item is shipped, you can ask for a refund. This way we know you have a normal item and not one that took "extra care to make it better". TY
Another good video. Interesting build choices in that one...can't think it would be very efficient, but I also wonder if the 200AH version uses the same case with twice as many cells? Maybe that plays into why they built it the way they did?
You made my Monday. The intermittent bouncing rubber made me laugh. If you don't have anything like this on tour other batteries I would welcome seeing this again. Maybe even to music. I just picked up a lightning volt 100ah for RVs, wonder what you think of those.
Bad thing is they sent this to you for review... Cherry Picked Unit. Wonder what the real world units are like from Amazon when they don't know who is getting them.
Where is your proof of this? People routinely say this but so far I haven't seen a single case of someone getting something of worse quality than what I reviewed (thankfully).
be careful the case of each battery is live, so those 4 cells only have thin film to stop them shorting, i would prefer to see spacers keeping them apart. nice 100a cells thou
Do these batts need that much air space around them in the case? Seems like it'd be neat if they could be packaged much, much smaller. It'd be more conducive to doing several of these in parallel if they'd fit in the rv.
I am going to buy 2 using your link. I just bought one using your Link. I can only get the $20.00 Coupon on one purchase. So I will do 2 individual buys ! Thanks for the info ! Liked/Subscribed a long time ago. I was Wrong... I can only get the $20.00 Coupon Discount once. I will have my Son order the 2nd. one and get the $20.00 discount that way ! *FJB !*
Thank you very much! Sry about deleting my magnet comment and wasting your time. My mistake. I'd like to see ya enable the tip button like I see on some other channels. Would like to send a little support. Keep up the great work!!
I just bought 2 of these and I used your Amazon link for 1 of them. Now that I have the 2 of them I Fully charged them individually with my 10 amp LiFepo charger. The problem is that I want to hook them in parallel and they are both supposed to have the same amount of charge but one of them has 13.95 volts at rest and the other is a 13.65 volts. Do you foresee a problem ? My charger was charging each of them at 14.60 volts.
Did you get a chance to check out the charger? I think if you keep it connected to the battery and unplug it, you can still hear the humming. So I don’t think it could work very well. But I do think it’s a good buy. Thanks for your feedback.
I suppose it could work. It's generally discouraged though due to the inrush current of the motor potentially damaging the BMS over time. It may void your warranty. I would check with the manufacturer and see what they advise.
Probably, because the manual is identical to the Moseworth 12v 100A. See this link, and it shows it can be put in series and parallel. amazon listing says 5 batteries in series or parallel
SunFunKits guy , why you here incognito telling another channel how to do it ? Especially when he's advertising for you . I got a little sick when I saw your sticker on the anderson connector . You sure are special .
@@LithiumSolar If that was the case then a 24v 100ah would be the same as as 12v 100ah. Clearly not because you are taking the voltage into consideration, so you are indeed measuring based on watt hours (nominal volts * amps hours = watt hours). A 100 AH battery should have a nominal voltage of 12.8 which is 3.2v/cell. Doing some math 1224 / 12.8 = 95.6 AH @ 12.8 nominal. The other way around would be 1224 / 100.92 = 12.12v nominal which is below the 12.8v Compare this to your other battery reviews like the SOK battery and you will see the battery has a 12.8v or higher nominal voltage or at least 1280WH. You derive the AH rating based on the WH which is the proper way of measuring.
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The links say "currently unavailable"
It's showing in stock for me... Are you in the US? Maybe they don't ship to your location?
@@LithiumSolar Its always a good day when you post a video. I love seeing you tear down these batteries and see if they are decent quality. You must have a good amount of harvested cells and hopefully you have been building or adding to your current capacity in your own main solar system
The link shows me inventory on Amazon FYI. The link works fine as far as I can tell
@@catch22frubert Adding to my solar system capacity is the plan, haven't done so just yet though. I'm trying to plan out my next move with all of that and will likely get something figured out in the spring with new equipment. I have a lot of ideas floating around and don't want to have to do it twice - need to plan.
I'm glad you do the battery teardown's. I think it forces the builders to do a better job knowing their batteries build quality will be exposed like this.
The wiggly rubber shots were hilarious 😂
HA! I was waiting to see if anyone noticed my fun transition LOL
@@LithiumSolar I was RATFLMAO
@@LithiumSolar those were good 👍
Teardown’s what?
A trend I am noticing in these breakdowns is that in many of them, the actual case if far larger than it needs to be. A lot of us are using these in cars/trucks so the physical size is actually a factor. I have noticed some significant size differences between the common brands. Frankly I like the size of that one out of the case. Honestly it looks like 200Ah of those would fit in many 100Ah cases. Space is a premium in my truck and I want as much battery as possible in the least amount of space.
That's why I did a diy 280ah build - nothing could cram 7.2kwh in the space I have without doing a diy build.
At the risk of sounding like a fan boy... I get super excited when you do this type of video. My inner battery nerd loves your battery teardowns. :)
Great battery view. Love that you spent the time to weigh the rubber protection. 5 lbs is a lot
The wobbly rubber cut scenes 🤣🤣🤣
LOVE how you keep bouncing the foam stuff...
I'm looking for a battery to equip my VAN, thanks a lot for your review, after your feedback, i'll definitely go for this one.
I would get a more recognized brand quite honestly. Check in to LiTime - they're pretty much where it's at right now with low price and good quality.
@@LithiumSolar Thanks for your feedback.
I've got a more general questions about the charging current of the barttery. If my alternator is giving 150A, will the battery will take 100A, or will it be more restrained by the BMS ?
Thanks in advance.
you cracked me up this time with the clips of the rubber filler snipped in
Great tear down. $279 for 12V 100Ah w/charger and working Low and High temp shutdown.
We all know that cheaper isn’t always better, but I think it’s time for our minds to shift from thinking that just because things cost less that they’re also closer to being garbage. Lithium has been around long enough for prices to be in this battery’s area.
My only concern with this battery is the “rubber matter”. That will definitely create issues for the cells covered… no possible ventilation.
Thanks for the video.
5:30 came unexpected! Interesting battery, great review!
Thank you. Your videos are always informative and fun to watch. Keep up the great work!
At $279 each it makes this battery the least expensive lithium batteries per watt hour on the market presently, that I would consider purchasing for a large 48V battery bank system. Even for a 12V or 24V system, this is a very inexpensive battery. My biggest concern is the reliability of the BMS and the cells that are being used because, I can't find anything out about either one of them. Great video again, however, just like the rest of the videos you put out. Thanks!
There was no mention if the BMS would support a series connection of these batteries together to get a 24v or 48v system. The Amazon listing does say you can combine four batteries together for 48V but says that they recommend charging the batteries separately, which doesn't give me a lot of confidence in using it in such an arrangement.
love the use of a HDD magnet
280$ for a 100ah, that's nice. thanks for the review.
$168.00 today
interesting internals, thanks for the review
Cool to see something different. If I ordered one I'd probably pull that temp sensor off the fets and try to get it hanging out of the BMS...do you think two sets of cells could fit in one of their cases if someone wanted to condense space? That would require adding a second set of terminals but the box is so dang big....
I really like your channel. I watch a few others. One thing I think you can do better is when they offer to send an item. Don't give then your address. Tell them you going to buy it directly. Then once item is shipped, you can ask for a refund. This way we know you have a normal item and not one that took "extra care to make it better". TY
Not bad. I tore down a global power 24v 50ah about a year ago that had that same rubber potting in it.
Great video. I’m looking for a fllyrower lifep04 battery tear down (not a misspelling). Not to be confused with FLYPOWER LiFePO4 12V 100A.
Great review! I'd be very tempted to pick up a battery based off your feedback.
I just ordered 1 from Amazon, this is my first LiFePo4 battery purchase, other than my 20v DeWalt battery packs. I hope its a good one
Another good video. Interesting build choices in that one...can't think it would be very efficient, but I also wonder if the 200AH version uses the same case with twice as many cells? Maybe that plays into why they built it the way they did?
You made my Monday. The intermittent bouncing rubber made me laugh. If you don't have anything like this on tour other batteries I would welcome seeing this again. Maybe even to music. I just picked up a lightning volt 100ah for RVs, wonder what you think of those.
LOL @ the rubber cuts
Nice to see the price dropping
Bad thing is they sent this to you for review... Cherry Picked Unit. Wonder what the real world units are like from Amazon when they don't know who is getting them.
Where is your proof of this? People routinely say this but so far I haven't seen a single case of someone getting something of worse quality than what I reviewed (thankfully).
More bouncy rubber transitions in all future videos please. :-P
The cells are 100Ah Tret cells. good for 2500 cycles .
Oooo, you found them - great info and thanks for sharing!
be careful the case of each battery is live, so those 4 cells only have thin film to stop them shorting, i would prefer to see spacers keeping them apart. nice 100a cells thou
Any reason I couldn't just use the cells sans case in my mobile generator just to save space?
LOL the bouncy rubber!!
Do these batts need that much air space around them in the case? Seems like it'd be neat if they could be packaged much, much smaller. It'd be more conducive to doing several of these in parallel if they'd fit in the rv.
Just pull it apart and put them in a new box
It would be interesting to know if any of the BMS's are fully configurable to the users needs.
No, the parameters of this BMS are not changeable. What exactly would you need to change?
Wonder what the difference is between this one and the kepworth, it is sold by deespaek as well, it is very large though, thanks
I am going to buy 2 using your link.
I just bought one using your Link. I can only get the $20.00 Coupon on one purchase. So I will do 2 individual buys ! Thanks for the info ! Liked/Subscribed a long time ago.
I was Wrong... I can only get the $20.00 Coupon Discount once.
I will have my Son order the 2nd. one and get the $20.00 discount that way !
*FJB !*
Looks like there is a missing current sense resistor missing for one of the mosfets (RS5)
Thank you very much! Sry about deleting my magnet comment and wasting your time. My mistake. I'd like to see ya enable the tip button like I see on some other channels. Would like to send a little support. Keep up the great work!!
I just bought 2 of these and I used your Amazon link for 1 of them. Now that I have the 2 of them I Fully charged them individually with my 10 amp LiFepo charger. The problem is that I want to hook them in parallel and they are both supposed to have the same amount of charge but one of them has 13.95 volts at rest and the other is a 13.65 volts. Do you foresee a problem ? My charger was charging each of them at 14.60 volts.
Did you get a chance to check out the charger? I think if you keep it connected to the battery and unplug it, you can still hear the humming. So I don’t think it could work very well. But I do think it’s a good buy. Thanks for your feedback.
It comes with a charger.
The battery they sent me didn't include the charger. The charger looks rather skimpy and yes, I read the same comments about it there.
My kids would just want to play with the bouncy rubber piece.
Kids? I was having fun playing with the bouncy rubber piece 😂
Keep throwing the clip into the rubber thing im dying
Hi can I charge this battery with a non lithium battery charger or should I buy just a deep cycle
Have you got an direct contact details for these guys - dee spaek?
Is it designed for high vibration environments to have that much rubber?
I don't think so, based on the phillips screw terminal connections.
With a lot of these super cheap batteries they tell you that they can't be used in series or parallel is that the case with this one?
I assume you like the copper components?
Will 3 of these work for a 36volt golf cart??
I suppose it could work. It's generally discouraged though due to the inrush current of the motor potentially damaging the BMS over time. It may void your warranty. I would check with the manufacturer and see what they advise.
Can 4 be put in series?
Probably, because the manual is identical to the Moseworth 12v 100A. See this link, and it shows it can be put in series and parallel. amazon listing says 5 batteries in series or parallel
I was wondering same thing.
The specifications paper that came with it doesn't give any indication; however, the Amazon page states you can put up to 4 in series.
our 3.33kwh lithium solar battery can be 430USD, 4.35kwh can be 560USD, what is your price
Which battery are you referring to?
What are the dimensions of the cells?
What BMS could I get for my ampere Time 200 ah plus I need Bluetooth capability and programmability too
The Ampere Time batteries (and most of these batteries) are glued shut and are not intended to be serviceable...
@@LithiumSolar I got mine open so what BMS would you recommend
Beefy looking also almost old tech lol but the price is right it would be interesting to see a torture test for longevity.
Do you expect the DeeSpaek 12V 200Ah is similar quality?
You sound a bit under the weather, hope you are felling ok.
Yeah, unusual respiratory illness that lasted for a couple of weeks. About 95% back to normal finally...
5:30 😂😂
I think this is not rubber sir but silicone. Rubber burns but they use silicone for higher tempretures. It's very disrespectful!
Silicone is a type of rubber...
I disagree. Rubber is made from the sap of special rubber trees, while silicone is synthetic material. Look it up, please!
I did look it up. I don't care enough to argue such topics. I have better things to do with my time. Have a good night.
Did you buy this or did they send it to you for review?
They sent it to me for review, as I noted in the video.
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wiggly, wiggly. LMAO. you should've made the video at least 2 minutes longer and just fill the end with wiggly wiggly ROFL
1:47 1224 WH / 12.8v = 95.6 AH NOT 100.92. Please correct your rating system, if cells can not maintain 3.2v/cell they are degraded grade B.
The battery tested at 100.92Ah not 95.6Ah. Batteries are tested in amp-hours not watt-hours.
SunFunKits guy , why you here incognito telling another channel how to do it ? Especially when he's advertising for you . I got a little sick when I saw your sticker on the anderson connector . You sure are special .
@@LithiumSolar If that was the case then a 24v 100ah would be the same as as 12v 100ah. Clearly not because you are taking the voltage into consideration, so you are indeed measuring based on watt hours (nominal volts * amps hours = watt hours).
A 100 AH battery should have a nominal voltage of 12.8 which is 3.2v/cell. Doing some math 1224 / 12.8 = 95.6 AH @ 12.8 nominal. The other way around would be 1224 / 100.92 = 12.12v nominal which is below the 12.8v
Compare this to your other battery reviews like the SOK battery and you will see the battery has a 12.8v or higher nominal voltage or at least 1280WH. You derive the AH rating based on the WH which is the proper way of measuring.
not for me
5 pounds of rubber. 😳😏
Who doesn’t like some wiggly rubber?
Just based on the looks of the case I cant image having to look at that ugly thing for more than a few minutes.
And why would you, lol
that's pretty cheap
Anything show an email for them
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