Either the world is unipolar or multipolar. If the world remains unipolar, no country apart from US will have strategic autonomy. If the world becomes multipolar, all countries will have autonomy. It's not what India desires. It's what kind of world is going to emerge in the future.
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India must follow strategic autonomy. However, we must pursue closer economic ties with the US. South Korea, Thailand, Japan, Singapore have all benefitted from close US ties. We can't afford not to have such ties to get our large population out of lower middle income to upper middle income nation status.
Strategic autonomy simply doesn't work with any kind of formalized alliance with the US. "Alliance" for the US simply means being obedient and following US orders. South Korea and Japan are de facto US military colonies and they've for decades followed every little whim of the US, even against their own will. Singapore is also completely subordinated to US interests but it's just a tiny city-state which is not big on sovereignty to begin with. Of the mentioned countries, only Thailand has a somewhat independent policy and it has successfully managed to balance different interests, with their prime minister recently even declaring interest in Thailand joining BRICS.
India will have to walk on a tight rope with US. We must fully engage with it on trade and investment front, including defense production. But on strategic front, the picture is not so clear. We need US defense technology and equipment even as India can fight its own war with China. But in IOR, India will need USA ( and conversely as well!!) to control aggressive China. But India cannot be doing everything as USA desires against any other country like say Russia. So where ever our mutual interests meet, we are together but not everywhere!! India is not Europe and certainly not Ukraine!! it must be said that USA will find this approach from India extremely useful if it thinks through about it.
Notice Indian you not going to the United States willingly, it crisis after crisis that keep hitting you and world that is forcing you to work with each other for protection, security, and shared prosperity.
Just watch what happens when the oil stops flowing from the Middle East. India soldiers will be fighting side by side with American forces to maintain law and order in Middle East and to make sure that oil keeps flowing.
@@surendrabarsode8959 You need to be careful Indian, you have a very poor understanding of the history and people of the Middle East. Some them like Yahya Sinwar of Hamas are extremely self destructive.
@@surendrabarsode8959 Many Indians do not understand why Sinwar did what he did but let me explain. Sinwar of Hamas wants a war with Israel. But Sinwar has no army he is essentially a "Mob Boss". So by kidnapping Israeli he wants to use Hezbollah and Iran's army to fight for him against Israel. This why it said that Hassan Nsarallah is extremely resentful of Yahya Sinwar and Hamas he knows what they are trying to do. Remember, Hassan Nsarallah spent years and billions of dollar of his money building up his forces in Lebanon and now Sinwar is trying to use them to fight his war.
What a stupid thumbnail...should India follow strategic autonomy or ally with US...😂most India know the answer but please someone tell the print to grow up and ask serious question.
Prioritise national interests over abstract moral framework. Diplomacy is pragmatism. Guiding force must be the strategic, political and economic gains for the State and its citizens. Common interests and threats play a pivotal role and is a deciding factor in international relations and world order as a whole.
Ally with the USA 🇺🇸: 1. Give 100+ military bases to USA 🇺🇸. 2. Send 3-5 million Indian troops to NATO's battlefields in Ukraine, West Asia and elsewhere. 3. Asaduddeen Owaisi will demand sending 3-5 million Indian Muslim Mujahids to the above ⬆ battlefields.
@@kevindsz Indian 🇮🇳 Muslims and Hindus will be fighting one another in foreign lands. It'll further wreck the social cohesion in India once the 'war vets' return home, with disastrous consequences. In a likely scenario, America and Nato will balkanize India into 50 Hindu/Muslim Nepals and Bhutans and 'liberate' Khalistan and Kashmir. Historically speaking, such a situation developed around 1857 following the disastrous Anglo-Afghan wars. Later, in the 2 World Wars 3-5 million forces from Undivided Colonial India fought for the British. It's no coincidence that the Partition was followed by the creation of Pakistan out of Baloch, Pashtun, Sindh, Punjabi and Bengali lands.
@@kevindszhe is being sarcastic since Owaisi gave statement after meeting US woman from embassy in Hyderabad. See the context to understand this comment.
Strategic autonomy will end if Russia will be destroyed, means Strategy autonomy with USA depends on Russia, otherwise in case of China, we are on same side with USA. As the time progresses if Russian power declines, India will automatically tilt towards USA. It is happening slowly 🙏
Then another crisis erupts, America was trying get India to form a coalition for security in the Indian ocean and Red sea. India initial said "no". Then Iran attacks India chemical tanker with a drone. The Houthis attack Indian shipping in the Red Sea. Again this crisis forces India into an arrangement with United States. Indian warships are now patrolling with American warships and other nations to protect shipping in Indian ocean and Red sea.
The next crisis that will hit is "Energy Crisis" this I predict again will drive India and America closer not because they like each other but their nation interest are at stake. America needs to maintain their alliance and India need to maintain the flow of oil out of the Middle East.
I disagree. If China proposes a friendly relationship with India which it in all probability would do, when China realises it needs India to win the ongoing Cold war; it will go for it. In turn making India a greatest swing state ever in history. We should not take sides between US and China. We should convince them we are with them and won't take sides, essentially benefiting from both. China is not a monster as we perceive them it's just geopolitics.
Being a partner of USA means being subordinate to USA. This guest doesn't seem to know or pretends to not know. What interests do the USA and India share? USA wants to be #1 and it'll push down others to maintain #1.
Not really, and let me explain. India since the fall of the Soviet Union has gone over to the US camp more and more because of "crisis" that happen to India. So a good example look at Prime Minister Nehru only asked for America's help after Mao and his Chinese army invade India.
Notice after these "crisis", with Covid-19, Iran attacking a Indian ship with a drone. The Houthi attacking Indian shipping the Red Sea. China invading and killing Indian soldiers. Do we see India moving more and more into the sphere American influence.
Let this man on the right decide what kind of an accent he wants to have: An Indian one or an American one. Whatever one he is trying to do now is just not working.
We should not take sides between US and China. We should convince them we are with them and won't take sides, essentially benefiting from both. China is not a monster as we perceive them it's just geopolitics.
Look India might as well ally it's with America for the time being. Currently, there over 100 appointments of Indian Americans within the Biden Administration. There is no government on earth outside of India that has much Indians working in government at such high levels.
@@HellBot-gi5sifirst of all, allying cannot and never has been and will be a "for the time being" decision. It's mostly permanent and is almost equivalent to pledging our autonomy to another country. No right thinking Indian would ever want that to happen. Plus, the no of Indians in the govt does not give any benefits to India. They maybe of Indian origin but if they're sitting in that govt, they are going to think for the US, not India. Therefore that's never a great point to be made for the Indian case and certainly not so in deciding if we ally with the US. If anything, in fact, it's a horrible metric in this context.
@@HellBot-gi5si 1. India would/should not ally with any country of this world because allying with any of them essentially makes her a junior partner a lieutenant of US/China. India's political entities has been very sensitive about this. And they should be. 2. Not even a single Indian is part of American administration they are Indian American in origins in case of their ethnicity. And that means nothing. They are American citizens and their loyalty is towards "America and America only". Even if we don't ally with Us or China, they will ultimately come for India's help, they would ask India to take a side because of India's heft in world politics. India's population it's economy and power that emanates from it will make greatest swing state ever in history of mankind. So no matter what India will be indispensable. Why should we accept slavery of US or China!? 🤔🤔🤔
An ally with USA at this age is strategically a step of oxymoron which will give profit to big industrialist but a dead sentence for the country future.
You need to stop thinking "ideologically". Notice India has only allied with the United States when there was a "crisis". So when China freeze out India in BRICS it struck a trade deal with the United States and increased buying oil from Russia. When China created another "crisis" by invading Indian lands and killing Indian soldiers India started to buy more and more weapons from the United States. Chinese soldiers wear titanium body armor so India bought American style AR-15 using the NATO 7.62 x 51 ammunition to penetrate Chinese body armor.
Also, the Indian America community has overwhelming supported President Joe Biden. He has appointed over 130 Indian Americans to his cabinet. So there is a lot of Indian representation in the Biden administration.
@@HellBot-gi5si There is no indian american. Only americans. What they do is irrelevant to india. I dont know why india should care about indians who have left india for money. If they're successful india doesnt need to care about them.
I think we should try to mend our relationship with China. We making our Sino ties better it would in itself stregthen BRICS. If China is against us we've to be under US hegemony simple as that.
You can't Indian. China have put a large army on you Northern border and it currently digging in. Look Nehru bent over backwards to avoid a war with Mao and the Chinese Communist. One reason that India made an alliance with Russia was to divided the Communist block and prevent China from attack India again and it worked for the most part.
No way. Being swing state would help us. We are not some ordinary state we are destined to be a great power if not superpower. Be neutral if China proposes good relations. That will take care of India's needs i.e. tech and investment.
China is never going to have a good relationship with us. They're way too much of an insecure state to have any of that. Plus a lot of their ideas about India are misplaced. Unless they get the basics right, that's never to happen, ever.
India should just maintain strategic relationship to prevent China to become Russia only ally. If that happens we will be alone in neighborhood and our neighbors like Pakistan, China and Bangladesh become more noisy.
“Strategic autonomy” is a catchy phrase. But, it is only available to the sole super power in a unipolar world. No developed, prosperous country in the world has the luxury of strategic autonomy. All of them are aligned with America. In contrast, there’s no country in the world, aligned to Russia or China that is developed or prosperous. Even China had to align with America against the USSR for it to develop and be in a position to challenge America today. But then, Russia is an unstable country. Putin might not last and the country may not survive. China’s political system is brittle and it is facing massive problems of its own. And, China can never be India’s friend. So, instead of talking about strategic autonomy, India must learn to be team player with other democratic nations. There’s nothing genius about Delhi’s foreign policy. It is sheer stupidity to be unpragmatic and call oneself Vishwaguru. Whatever happened to the non aligned movement? All of them are still third world countries.
@@HimanshuMahajan-zn3nq And, you never take part in a debate. Because, you go off on a tangent and you really have no idea of what you are talking about. If you think what I said is untrue, counter it with a logical argument.
@@HimanshuMahajan-zn3nq It is "holier than THOU". You shouldn't have slept through your english class.
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Nehru allied with the US and brought upon himself the Indo-China war. The bitterness of that defeat still poisons the relationship with China even when China retreated back to the old border after snubbing India. Now, ally with the US again and India will be another Ukraine. Taiwan wisely understood this and keeps a working relationship with China even when US eggs it on to take a more confrontational approach. But India has learnt its lessons in the 75 years and now it is more practical in its relationships with other countries. It is the other way around now. US can not do without India.
No you have it backwards Indian. Nehru bent over backward to avoid a war with China. but once he was attacked by the Mao' and Chinese forces he turn to US for guns and training. But America wasn't interest in become an ally of India or really getting involved with India. America was worried about Fidel Castro and Cuba.
China retreated back 😂😂 china is literally claiming whole state of india..so calm tf down..let china maintain good border relations with every other neighbour first
West is fairly advanced and has shared values and governance. We can benefit if they support us. With China nothing but mistrust. Russia helped us can become truly democratic in future. Good relationship with Russia and must to balance both China and US
Just remember the Joe Biden administration has over 100 Indian American appointees. Indian American overwhelming voted for President Joe Biden in last election. Now India will have an Indian America as President.
Either the world is unipolar or multipolar. If the world remains unipolar, no country apart from US will have strategic autonomy. If the world becomes multipolar, all countries will have autonomy. It's not what India desires. It's what kind of world is going to emerge in the future.
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India must follow strategic autonomy. However, we must pursue closer economic ties with the US.
South Korea, Thailand, Japan, Singapore have all benefitted from close US ties. We can't afford not to have such ties to get our large population out of lower middle income to upper middle income nation status.
Benefitted ?? They are all vassals
Strategic autonomy simply doesn't work with any kind of formalized alliance with the US. "Alliance" for the US simply means being obedient and following US orders. South Korea and Japan are de facto US military colonies and they've for decades followed every little whim of the US, even against their own will. Singapore is also completely subordinated to US interests but it's just a tiny city-state which is not big on sovereignty to begin with. Of the mentioned countries, only Thailand has a somewhat independent policy and it has successfully managed to balance different interests, with their prime minister recently even declaring interest in Thailand joining BRICS.
Bruh..above mentioned countries foreign policy literally designed in US😂
India will have to walk on a tight rope with US. We must fully engage with it on trade and investment front, including defense production. But on strategic front, the picture is not so clear. We need US defense technology and equipment even as India can fight its own war with China. But in IOR, India will need USA ( and conversely as well!!) to control aggressive China. But India cannot be doing everything as USA desires against any other country like say Russia. So where ever our mutual interests meet, we are together but not everywhere!! India is not Europe and certainly not Ukraine!! it must be said that USA will find this approach from India extremely useful if it thinks through about it.
Notice Indian you not going to the United States willingly, it crisis after crisis that keep hitting you and world that is forcing you to work with each other for protection, security, and shared prosperity.
Just watch what happens when the oil stops flowing from the Middle East. India soldiers will be fighting side by side with American forces to maintain law and order in Middle East and to make sure that oil keeps flowing.
@@HellBot-gi5si Why should oil not flow from ME? The economy there depends on oil. In the medium term, importance of ME oil is coming down anyway.
@@surendrabarsode8959 You need to be careful Indian, you have a very poor understanding of the history and people of the Middle East. Some them like Yahya Sinwar of Hamas are extremely self destructive.
@@surendrabarsode8959 Many Indians do not understand why Sinwar did what he did but let me explain. Sinwar of Hamas wants a war with Israel. But Sinwar has no army he is essentially a "Mob Boss". So by kidnapping Israeli he wants to use Hezbollah and Iran's army to fight for him against Israel. This why it said that Hassan Nsarallah is extremely resentful of Yahya Sinwar and Hamas he knows what they are trying to do. Remember, Hassan Nsarallah spent years and billions of dollar of his money building up his forces in Lebanon and now Sinwar is trying to use them to fight his war.
What a stupid thumbnail...should India follow strategic autonomy or ally with US...😂most India know the answer but please someone tell the print to grow up and ask serious question.
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Prioritise national interests over abstract moral framework. Diplomacy is pragmatism. Guiding force must be the strategic, political and economic gains for the State and its citizens. Common interests and threats play a pivotal role and is a deciding factor in international relations and world order as a whole.
Ally with the USA 🇺🇸:
1. Give 100+ military bases to USA 🇺🇸.
2. Send 3-5 million Indian troops to NATO's battlefields in Ukraine, West Asia and elsewhere.
3. Asaduddeen Owaisi will demand sending 3-5 million Indian Muslim Mujahids to the above ⬆ battlefields.
Why is point No 03 a bad thing ?
@@kevindsz Indian 🇮🇳 Muslims and Hindus will be fighting one another in foreign lands. It'll further wreck the social cohesion in India once the 'war vets' return home, with disastrous consequences.
In a likely scenario, America and Nato will balkanize India into 50 Hindu/Muslim Nepals and Bhutans and 'liberate' Khalistan and Kashmir.
Historically speaking, such a situation developed around 1857 following the disastrous Anglo-Afghan wars. Later, in the 2 World Wars 3-5 million forces from Undivided Colonial India fought for the British. It's no coincidence that the Partition was followed by the creation of Pakistan out of Baloch, Pashtun, Sindh, Punjabi and Bengali lands.
@@kevindszhe is being sarcastic since Owaisi gave statement after meeting US woman from embassy in Hyderabad.
See the context to understand this comment.
Strategic autonomy will end if Russia will be destroyed, means Strategy autonomy with USA depends on Russia, otherwise in case of China, we are on same side with USA. As the time progresses if Russian power declines, India will automatically tilt towards USA. It is happening slowly 🙏
Then another crisis erupts, America was trying get India to form a coalition for security in the Indian ocean and Red sea. India initial said "no". Then Iran attacks India chemical tanker with a drone. The Houthis attack Indian shipping in the Red Sea. Again this crisis forces India into an arrangement with United States. Indian warships are now patrolling with American warships and other nations to protect shipping in Indian ocean and Red sea.
The next crisis that will hit is "Energy Crisis" this I predict again will drive India and America closer not because they like each other but their nation interest are at stake. America needs to maintain their alliance and India need to maintain the flow of oil out of the Middle East.
US has testing India on different issues including regime change in Bangladesh, Manipur, S-400 etc
I disagree. If China proposes a friendly relationship with India which it in all probability would do, when China realises it needs India to win the ongoing Cold war; it will go for it. In turn making India a greatest swing state ever in history.
We should not take sides between US and China. We should convince them we are with them and won't take sides, essentially benefiting from both. China is not a monster as we perceive them it's just geopolitics.
@@AnuragSinha7China occupied our territory. What rock ur sleeping under
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Being a partner of USA means being subordinate to USA. This guest doesn't seem to know or pretends to not know. What interests do the USA and India share? USA wants to be #1 and it'll push down others to maintain #1.
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The direction of us foreign policy will be very different depending on who wins the election in November
Not really, and let me explain. India since the fall of the Soviet Union has gone over to the US camp more and more because of "crisis" that happen to India. So a good example look at Prime Minister Nehru only asked for America's help after Mao and his Chinese army invade India.
Notice after these "crisis", with Covid-19, Iran attacking a Indian ship with a drone. The Houthi attacking Indian shipping the Red Sea. China invading and killing Indian soldiers. Do we see India moving more and more into the sphere American influence.
Let this man on the right decide what kind of an accent he wants to have: An Indian one or an American one. Whatever one he is trying to do now is just not working.
Strategic autonomy needs real back up… India doesn’t have it. China captured our land, what we have done so far to get it back??
Only friction right now is American media keeps criticising Modi over human rights. Our Feku doesn’t like any criticism
We should not take sides between US and China. We should convince them we are with them and won't take sides, essentially benefiting from both. China is not a monster as we perceive them it's just geopolitics.
China occupied our territory. What rock u r sleeping under
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Look India might as well ally it's with America for the time being. Currently, there over 100 appointments of Indian Americans within the Biden Administration. There is no government on earth outside of India that has much Indians working in government at such high levels.
@@HellBot-gi5sifirst of all, allying cannot and never has been and will be a "for the time being" decision. It's mostly permanent and is almost equivalent to pledging our autonomy to another country. No right thinking Indian would ever want that to happen.
Plus, the no of Indians in the govt does not give any benefits to India. They maybe of Indian origin but if they're sitting in that govt, they are going to think for the US, not India. Therefore that's never a great point to be made for the Indian case and certainly not so in deciding if we ally with the US. If anything, in fact, it's a horrible metric in this context.
@@HellBot-gi5si 1. India would/should not ally with any country of this world because allying with any of them essentially makes her a junior partner a lieutenant of US/China. India's political entities has been very sensitive about this. And they should be.
2. Not even a single Indian is part of American administration they are Indian American in origins in case of their ethnicity. And that means nothing. They are American citizens and their loyalty is towards "America and America only".
Even if we don't ally with Us or China, they will ultimately come for India's help, they would ask India to take a side because of India's heft in world politics. India's population it's economy and power that emanates from it will make greatest swing state ever in history of mankind. So no matter what India will be indispensable. Why should we accept slavery of US or China!? 🤔🤔🤔
An ally with USA at this age is strategically a step of oxymoron which will give profit to big industrialist but a dead sentence for the country future.
You need to stop thinking "ideologically". Notice India has only allied with the United States when there was a "crisis". So when China freeze out India in BRICS it struck a trade deal with the United States and increased buying oil from Russia. When China created another "crisis" by invading Indian lands and killing Indian soldiers India started to buy more and more weapons from the United States. Chinese soldiers wear titanium body armor so India bought American style AR-15 using the NATO 7.62 x 51 ammunition to penetrate Chinese body armor.
Also, the Indian America community has overwhelming supported President Joe Biden. He has appointed over 130 Indian Americans to his cabinet. So there is a lot of Indian representation in the Biden administration.
@@HellBot-gi5si There is no indian american. Only americans. What they do is irrelevant to india. I dont know why india should care about indians who have left india for money. If they're successful india doesnt need to care about them.
I think we should try to mend our relationship with China. We making our Sino ties better it would in itself stregthen BRICS. If China is against us we've to be under US hegemony simple as that.
You can't Indian. China have put a large army on you Northern border and it currently digging in. Look Nehru bent over backwards to avoid a war with Mao and the Chinese Communist. One reason that India made an alliance with Russia was to divided the Communist block and prevent China from attack India again and it worked for the most part.
No way. Being swing state would help us. We are not some ordinary state we are destined to be a great power if not superpower.
Be neutral if China proposes good relations. That will take care of India's needs i.e. tech and investment.
Good relationship built on trust. China has ruined it. Let them give back occupied territory then talk about relationship.
We can make good relations with china only when china stops claiming our whole state
China is never going to have a good relationship with us. They're way too much of an insecure state to have any of that. Plus a lot of their ideas about India are misplaced. Unless they get the basics right, that's never to happen, ever.
India should side with Russia. Open a front at west and boost local manufacturing and technology
India should just maintain strategic relationship to prevent China to become Russia only ally. If that happens we will be alone in neighborhood and our neighbors like Pakistan, China and Bangladesh become more noisy.
“Strategic autonomy” is a catchy phrase. But, it is only available to the sole super power in a unipolar world.
No developed, prosperous country in the world has the luxury of strategic autonomy. All of them are aligned with America.
In contrast, there’s no country in the world, aligned to Russia or China that is developed or prosperous.
Even China had to align with America against the USSR for it to develop and be in a position to challenge America today.
But then, Russia is an unstable country. Putin might not last and the country may not survive. China’s political system is brittle and it is facing massive problems of its own. And, China can never be India’s friend.
So, instead of talking about strategic autonomy, India must learn to be team player with other democratic nations.
There’s nothing genius about Delhi’s foreign policy. It is sheer stupidity to be unpragmatic and call oneself Vishwaguru.
Whatever happened to the non aligned movement? All of them are still third world countries.
Take your geopolitics lessons.and history lessons too..if you think US and allies are holier than though
@@HimanshuMahajan-zn3nq And, you never take part in a debate. Because, you go off on a tangent and you really have no idea of what you are talking about.
If you think what I said is untrue, counter it with a logical argument.
@@HimanshuMahajan-zn3nq It is "holier than THOU". You shouldn't have slept through your english class.
Nehru allied with the US and brought upon himself the Indo-China war. The bitterness of that defeat still poisons the relationship with China even when China retreated back to the old border after snubbing India. Now, ally with the US again and India will be another Ukraine. Taiwan wisely understood this and keeps a working relationship with China even when US eggs it on to take a more confrontational approach. But India has learnt its lessons in the 75 years and now it is more practical in its relationships with other countries. It is the other way around now. US can not do without India.
No you have it backwards Indian. Nehru bent over backward to avoid a war with China. but once he was attacked by the Mao' and Chinese forces he turn to US for guns and training. But America wasn't interest in become an ally of India or really getting involved with India. America was worried about Fidel Castro and Cuba.
China retreated back 😂😂 china is literally claiming whole state of india..so calm tf down..let china maintain good border relations with every other neighbour first
@@HimanshuMahajan-zn3nqThe retreat in the 1962 war is factual. Look it up
Hahhaha india can’t survive without west🤣
West is fairly advanced and has shared values and governance. We can benefit if they support us. With China nothing but mistrust. Russia helped us can become truly democratic in future. Good relationship with Russia and must to balance both China and US
West can't survive without immigrants 🤡
Just remember the Joe Biden administration has over 100 Indian American appointees. Indian American overwhelming voted for President Joe Biden in last election. Now India will have an Indian America as President.