Break-Barrel Air Rifle Cleaning & Lubrication
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- čas přidán 3. 10. 2013
- I'm showing my technique to lubricate a break barrel air rifle on the Weihrauch HW95 and Beeman R9 model.
This method can be applied to all spring piston powered break barrel air rifles.
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I recently saw this video. It was informative. I just disassembled my 1983 Beeman R7. I found that after greasing my gun - the FPS was way low - and the grease was causing too much friction - so I just have used too much.. so I took it apart again (easy to do the 2nd time) and used 1 drip of 0-20 Mobile 1 synthetic oil on the piston and spring. This worked very well - the piston moved easily and the FPS came right back. The inner main tube that houses the spring / piston / trigger assembly was not as dirty as I thought it might have been, but the piston did have a little black oil / old lubrication that I removed which let it move more freely. Thanks for the video
Before doing any lubricating that spring needs seeing to.Only one end has had the last coil collapsed and flatted off.As it is it will be trying to dig itself in when it twists while cocking/releasing.
Great video. After seeing the work involved, I have neglected my break barrel BSA for over 17 years and only molykote the visible spring, trigger housing and a couple of silicone drops through the piston discharge port once. It has never dieseled or fired without a pellet in the chamber. It's still hitting paper targets like new.
A springer doesn't need to be lubed every few years. It can shoot for decades if it isn't neglected and rusting away in a moist barn.
I don't recommend pouring any liquid into the transfer port. Once properly lubed no maintenance is required unless a seal or the spring breaks.
As long as it performs satisfactory, I still don't want to dismantle the gun to see the seal or inner works.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
@@2lbsTrigrPull Crosman and RWS and umerex all recommend a drop or two of silicone at intervals
@@markzimmerman7279 they all recommend it because they want you to buy their snake oil products. They are unnecessary and way too expensive. A properly lubed airgun doesn't need any silicone "at intervals". That's horeshit.
thanks so much for the informative video really enjoyed it and now I have some confidence to try it many thanks !1
Wow!!!! is this Part 2. I never saw you take it apart
You dont know how screws work? idiot.
Nice video, thanks
I put moly grease (abit too thick I think) and about 5 drops of zddp additive on my internals. First 7 shots were bad detonation and I was very worried. But after about 10 shots it settled down to a + or - variation of 25 feet per second and only a light amount of dieseling and light smoke in barrel after a shot. Hopefully it wasn't too hard on the rifle and it continues to improve even more.
Should you always even with a brand new Hatsan spring air rifle I need to take it apart and deburr the cylinder cut outs . Is this just on your brand of gun you have or any air gun .
Not lookin to start anything but who in general might have a better version of semi tuning and cleaning a good break-barrel on youtube? Everyone got a favorite. Thanks, me
2lbsTrigrPull if you see this comment, I just wanted to know if I should (or need to) take the air gun apart when cleaning and lubricating for the first time. I don't know if you are familiar with the Hatsan Striker Edge, but I am looking for the best gun care tips. Any help would be appreciated.
What are the lubricants called that you’re using?
Thank you!
o hw85 e o hw95 eles podem acertar uma lata a 150 metros??? e quantos joules o hw 85 e 95 tem ????
Can you please tell me where i can buy the rubber piston for beeman original model 5, i would appreciate if you can help me si I can repair my old model which was given by my grand father.
Esto si es un verdadero mantenimiento con dedicación y responsabilidad.
You are welcome.
Does dry firing mess up the seals?? I did that once. I have one that could hold a good group. It could shoot through a can. But it couldn't take a squirrel.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge
Thanks for sharing.
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Wenn ich fragen darf,was ist das für ein Fett oder Gleitmittel ??
the springs from the factory are said to be finished right at both ends now after a load of complants, your rifle might have been a early one but it has the latest piston seal fitted + cocking shoe and star breach + detent ? . iv never seen a hw95 with open sights for 8 years
I've already had HW rifles with orderly finished springs. For example the HW97k that I took apart and filmed. This HW95 (newer model than 97) has a chopped spring again. So my guess is, that they somehow screw up on some guns even on the newer ones. The HW95 in the video is the latest version with new cocking shoe, new seal design and spring retention for the cocking arm. The one in the video left the factory in 2013. So it's a new one.
If you want a HW95 with open sights order one at Sportwaffen-Schneider.de
Outside Germany iron sights are not as popular as in Germany. That's why German versions come with iron sights. I prefer iron sights too...
That is some course paper towel material ! I guess it can be good or bad depending on what your using it for .lol
Good video on what to clean and oil . 👍
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Would regular Hoppe's-9 gun oil work on this, instead of the greases that you're using?
You shouldn't use any oils inside the cylinder or barrel. Otherwise you will get muzzle flashes and with that I mean FIRE. The high compression inside the cylinder will ignite any flammable substance.
how often do you do this?
You have enough MoS2 paste for the next 20 or 30 generations in your family.
Do I need to lube the air rifle or can i just shoot it without lubing
nice
Paper towels leave fibers on the metal. I thought everyone knew that. I hope next time you use a metal cleaner and degreaser to make sure no fiber is clinging to the bare metal. next time use a lint free cloth to remove grease.
Does the lube on the spring have anything to do with it life span or is it just to keep it from rubbing metal to metal ?
it reduce shakiness of the spring, its more quiet, doesnt increase lifespan
@@TheBuniek where can i get some grease for ny phantom. 22 break barrel and how often do i have to to apply the grease?
Do you put any grease down the guts of the piston bore, or just what's on the lip of the piston seal, and go in dry?
If you put grease into the chamber, you don't need grease on the piston anymore. So if you smear grease on the seal and piston, you can go in dry. The rifle doesn't care. Wouldn't try with a woman though, unless your piston is really well lubricated.
Lol!
If you put grease down the piston bore before you put in the spring it'll smoke like a musket 🤣
Other than that it spits out what it doesn't need.
Goes on but it doesn't help consistency.
Best to just clean more regularly and brush on the minimum like this vid. After a few shots grease has gone everywhere it needs to.
Some people bang on about dieseling and detonation.
Dieseling is where the grease or oil in the chamber is turned to a mist, which actually makes it go pretty well, although your grouping scatters.
Detonation is where that diesel ignites and detonates, which is an explosion risk with high compressing air rifles, no chance with a UK spec sub 12 ft lb though.
Use Diesel for washing and cleaning with a used toothbrush and then a graded oil for lubrication. If you have a problem in procuring a graded lubrication oil, then a graded motor oil may also be used. Use motor grade grease for lubricating the spring.
I use Motul Chain Lube for the spring. Very sticky lube that will never come off the spring. Cleaning with Diesel is not a bad idea but for me unnecessary. For the piston and seal I still use the lube in the vid and it functions just fine.
@@2lbsTrigrPull Thanks. Inputs taken. I will sure use your experience to better effect when I am servicing my air rifle next. ✌👍👍
@@deepconscious7741 I'm not telling anyone what to do or what to use. I'm just showing what I do. ;)
I bet there are better ways but for me it works. 😄😉
@@2lbsTrigrPull 😇👍
This may be a idiotic question, but can you over lubricate the outside of a spring-piston air gun? I coated the outside of my gamo so it wouldn't rust, and I made sure not to get it in the breech of the gun. Is it ok?
Taylor Perry As long as it's not dieseling like hell and you get consistent velocities it's okay.
2lbsTrigrPull Alright, thanks bud.
what kind of grease are you using on the trigger sears in you video thanks as i would like to know how you like or dislike that grease on the trigger sears, thanks
Moly MoS2 grease. A little lube on the sears is okay. They also do this in the factory.
I have just used the beeman metal 2 metal paste on my hw 30. I haven't fired it yet so I will see later this week how it works
What is Moly duval? From where can we get it?
Moly MoS2.
Great video, thanks. What was the little black tube of stuff you used at the end?
You are welcome! ^^
Was oil that came with a V-Mach tuning kit.
@2lbsTrigrPull OK great thank yoi
Love the vid!
I have a really old pellet gun. Cant find a manufacturer name anywhere on it...Just says made in Hungary.
When i pulled it apart, it has 2 springs weaved together. You think this is normal, or was this someones way of modding it years ago?
Like wrapped around each other? See that on rifle springs so does sound legit
@@tortron
Ya, its basically 2 identical springs. They just weave one through the other.
If you look carefully I think you might find that the the spring is broken and the two parts have "screwed" themselves together.
thaks very much
but sir kindly tell me about the libricant and other grease details...i will buy them...tell me product details
+waqar ahmed It's simple MoS2 grease. You should find it in any automobile repair shop.
Hello friend, please can you tell me WHERE to buy a Lothar Walther barrel (if it exists) for my cricket tactical II of 23.6" in the USA? Thank you.
at Lothar Walthar in Conn googie it
I am trying to find something that will clean and polish the inside of the tube like a drill powered pipe polisher. Anyone have an idea?
Brake cylinder hone. Can find them at auto parts store.They have 3 small stones, They are wet stones so use transmission fluid when u hone.
Put a screwdriver WIth the sharp end in the drill. Wrap 600 grid dry wet sanding paper around the grip of the screwdriver. Put some water on the paper. Set the drill on slow. And put the sandpaper end in the tube. And Polish the inside carefully. After that. Clean and lube.
I would do some research on that. I don't believe you want a smooth polish on the inner tube. Many tubes have a crosshatch pattern in them for a reason. Research this so you don't harm your gun.
Wow, some really great points made and as to why. Not...
You are welcome!
my air rifle shoot itself when reloaded without pressing trigger ...what to do?
loosen the main trigger screw going into the trigger from under the gun
I just bought a cheap roebel B2-2-22 air rifle do I have to go to extremes like this with that model to?
No, just shoot it until it breaks. Not even worth the time.
@@2lbsTrigrPull thank you I see a lot of screws but nothing that looks easily serviceable. The manual says take it to a gun shop I may do that a couple times just to make it last longer because the compression system in the middle between the stock and barrel look plain. I can only use it when I'm out of the city so it will last longer than any relationship I have had and cost me less!!
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can we not just wash the internals with water and liquid soap? I mean the spring,piston and compressor chamber.
water is not very lubricating.
your rifle can also start rusting from it
+Morena “Glesgow” Mordegard How about mineral spirits?
What is the purpose of using the lithium napier grease on the piston seal and not just using the moly
I just wanted to use a dedicated airgun lube but of course, you can use the Moly on the seal too.
That Napier grease is "specially formulated for use on piston & pre-charged airguns. Contains VP90". It was made especially for lubing the seals. That's what at least the manufacturer says. ^^
I wouldn't use it on the mainspring though. Wouldn't stay put.
2lbsTrigrPull cool, just curious
Anyone out there know where I can find a piston seal for my Beeman S1
If you haven’t found 1 yet, look up Vortex they might have it.
Pyramid air
Tw chambers gun makers
same problem...i havent found the original..
Óleo de motor de moto e melhor que graxa
Can you use WD 40 specialist silicone hurt my nitrogen piston break barrel air rifle
Don't use any oils.
@@2lbsTrigrPull no maintenance on the piston at all? Thanks so much for your reply ,I'm new with air guns.
How often should I clean the rifle
How often do you shoot? you might want to give it a good cleaning after 1000 shots
very goood!!!, is weihrauch hw 95?????
Yes, it's the HW95 Luxus.
accuracy + power = hw95 VS hw98???
gabriel prado
It's the same powerwise. Maybe accuracy on the HW98 is a LITTLE really by a small fraction better because of the heavier barrel and stock. But essentially they are the same rifle.
thanks :)
I've given up using Molly grease it just thick in the cold British climate, instead i now us 00 specification grease its i find better in every aspect, but each to there own as we say!
Whatever works for you buddy. I have only good experience made with Moly MoS2 grease.
You can mix moly paste with motor oil to thin it down. I use 0wt-20 synthetic to do it. Actually I don't use moly paste as a general rule, but the few times I have that's what I do with it. I always suggest putting buttons on the piston, but especially so if using thinner grease like that. If no buttons then it's also better to have the moly mixed in. You can also mix moly powder or similar into your 00 grease. Just some thoughts...
Hi the specifications on the 00 grease are very high, it's performance under load is higher than the moly and it stays lubricating at a lower temperatures with less resistance, so the rifle stays on tune in very cold weather, it make my rifle very constant, which I like, try some you might just get to like it.
b57ecv I'm open to suggestions, what kind do you use? Tungsten Disulfide is what I mix with my grease/oil. So I dry lube the gun using pure tungsten, then mix #2 grease with 0wt motor oil to get any consistency I want, then mix in tungsten to make it a super lube than is amazing yet very inexpensive.
Hi it's made by Alco and it's called super lube 00 grease, i was lucky I hade it free off my brother who works as a land rover mechanic, it's good stuff, it came in a tube and it's actually made in memphis usa, I live in Gloucestershire United Kingdom, so I'm lucky I've got some!
You need to fix the end of that spring
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I put oil in my barrel. Had a 200fps drop in velocity and a lot of smoke.
Clean it???
Love the thumbnail pic!!!
Forza Juve!
Ya, try and give it a cleaning. Too much oil might be causing that.
The oil might work its way out, but I'd give it a quick clean regardless. Or it might start to gum up the barrel.
@@splash5974 it is when you leave the airgun a while and the piston dries up it gets higher fps. The fps drops to a constant fps reading and stays there after 10 shots or so. So before you go hunting/competitionshooting, get 10 to 20 pellets off shortly before the act of shooting where it HAS got to hit.
Can WD 40 specialist be used to lube a nitro piston break barrel
WD40 is garbage - Use a proper lube ie Breakfree or Superlube
OK so that starts with the rifle unassembled, I need a video from the very beginning. I have no idea how to take the rifle apart to even begin to start in this video.
It's always a good idea to have a look at the video description. 😬😂
OK but am I too drunk or did you never show me what type name & # of lube you were applying. I am going to subscribe because I want to be able to disassemble & reassemble my springers a very good instructional vid. I just want more.
You can read the labels on all containers which lube it is...
Oh yea: I guess I was too drunk.
THat"s How NOt to Clean Your Air Rifle !!!
Why? Rifle works fine.
Those tissues are like sand paper ! Use soft material, like old flannel...
I used 2lbs method on my R9 and it turned out perfect. Shoots like a dream and accurate. Thanks 2lbs..
hi, i have a doubt. is it okay to use the type of grease that been used for vehicles. because its very hard to find such type made for guns in my country.
i wouldn't use automotive type grease anywhere around the chamber or where it could get compressed, automotive type oils and greases can combust when compressed. I received a used airgun once and after shooting it, it was actually smoking from the barrel a little bit, apparently the last owner used a 3 in 1 type oil or something to lube it up. i'm not sure what to recommend to you as i've never done this before, but i use only silicone oil for the chamber seal. Good luck
@@robertriedel5784 thank you very much.
Video complete banao
Cost efficient
Poorly finished spring on one end, you put back in a knackered piston seal and used a tonne of grease... even in areas where no grease is required such as the back block and trigger cage.......
I think he cleaned a brand new gun with factory grease. lol
You better send that spring back and get a new one!! That has to be the worse looking cut on the end. Looks like some 2 year old did it.
That's HW standard. ^^
jolly614 Does Hell Cartridge sell rifles in Germany with sawed off springs? Those springs are HW standard. Hell Cartridge doesn't open them up to put
***** Weihrauch produces for the masses not for the 0,5% that take their rifles apart. The internals are good enough to be accurate. It's only those who really really care about internals, springs, pistons etc. who are not satisfied.
They produce cost effective rifles that are accurate. Weihrauch will never create tuned out of the box rifles. Too expensive and they don't sell as well.
2lbsTrigrPull I have a Crosman Fury not the blackout.Its model CF1K77X, and the main spring is broken.I have called Crosman, and a replacement spring isn't available wtf ever.I have exhausted internet sources, and came up with nothing.Sorry to interrupt this thread for my own needs, but I don't know where else to go other than ppl who have knowledge of air rifles.Do you or anyone else know where I can get a replacement main spring for my Crosman Fury? Thanks.
riseabove
Hi there,
I don't own any Crosman rifles so I don't know the specs of the main spring Crosman rifles use. Maybe this one will work:
www.airrifleheadquarters.com/catalog/item/251488/43410.htm
It's a tuning spring that work in several Gamo and Chinese brand rifles which the Crosman is.
You can get also help on this forum:
www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?action=forum
There are a lot of guys owning Crosman rifles and there's a forum specifically for Crosmans.
That's also the reason why I buy good, well known air rifles domestically made. You get support and as much spare parts as you want. If you buy another air rifle, I recommend you get a Beeman/Weihrauch rifle. Maybe the HW50s or HW95. Those are great rifles. Accurate and you get the support and spare parts you need.
Good thing you know what you are doing and are able to show it off, but many of us are new to this and have no clue what you are doing or using here.
Why not show how you take the rifle apart?
Why not explain what you need to clean?
Why not show what kind of lubricants are needed?
Why not show how to put the rifle back together?
if you are going to make a silent video, you might as well not bother!! Many of us rely on videos to help us learn to do things that are not readily available on the web. So, next time you make a video, try to keep all this in mind, people will either learn from you or be totally confused by what you are showing. Take time to EXPLAIN things instead of showing off how good you are, we are not here to be amazed by you!
Yeah I know, the internet is still difficult to understand for lazy people but from time to time you still have to use a few brain cells to navigate through and search for information. It already helps if you can read...
To answer some of your questions:
Why am I not showing how I am taking the rifle apart? Well, why didn't you watch this? czcams.com/video/7Ux0xVwUj54/video.html
I EVEN PUT ANNOTATIONS IN THE FUCKING VIDEO TO ALL THE OTHER CORRESPONDING VIDEOS. Damn some people...
Why am I not explaining what you need to clean? Well, haven't you watched the video? It's all in there and pretty much self explanatory. Do I need to tell you that you have to brush your teeth once in a while and how to do it? Open your toothpaste, take your toothbrush in your right or left hand, depending if you are left handed or right handed, now with the other hand take that toothpaste and navigate it carefully to your toothbrush, press carefully on the tube while you are over the bristels and make a backward movement very slowly to spread the paste evenly on the bristles............ yeah people are that dumb on the internet. Fuck, not only on the internet.................
Why am I not showing what kind of lubricants are needed? Well, again, WHY HAVEN'T YOU WATCHED THE DAMN VIDEO AND READ WHAT YOU SEE? What do you see? I bet A BIG FUCKING YELLOW CAN with MoS2 grease...
Why am I not showing how to put the rifle back together? WHY THE FUCK DON'T YOU READ, CLICK AND WATCH? czcams.com/video/4f4MzG-UoBQ/video.html
If are going to make stupid comments, you might as well not bother!! Many of us rely on comments to help us learn to do things that are not readily available on the web. So, next time you make a comment, try to keep all this in mind, people will either learn from you or be totally confused by what you are typing. Take time to READ things instead of showing off how stupid you are, we are not here to be amazed by you!
Air rifles are not rocket science. If you are too stupid to handle a screwdriver, please, take the rifle back to the dealer and go watch TV or whatever...
2lbsTrigrPull fuckin' right! I agree. If some one doesn't know how to take apart the air gun, you should research it. If you got it apart and can't put it back together... well, you're stupid. This video is about how to take care of the air gun. It would say how to take it apart and put it back together again if that's what this video was for. By the way, great job with the video.
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good video but i could not listen to the paper towel noise had to turn it off
How about you do a full video where you take it apart first lol
Some people...
To do the job right you should have sorted the dodgy end out on that spring ,shoddy workmanship
Tell that to HW.
@@2lbsTrigrPull that's how it came new, my god there slacking, once highly spoken of German engineering now they've gone into the bodgit an scraper realms.
Woulda been a bit better if you explained as you worked, you know, for us newbs.
I watched the video 3-4 times to feel confident to do this job and it turned out great.
Way........Too Much Grease!
You never have too much grease
I never said I did, but in "life" you never has too much grease, ja, ja
Happy Camper not true with that liberal talk
Don't know what you mean. Sorry but I do not follow the stupid politics
grease traps dirt
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That's not enough grease you put in there, bro...
Why so much grease 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Didn't hurt.
@@2lbsTrigrPull just wondering why so much .you don't need to put grease on the outside of trigger unit buddy it doesn't come in to contact with anything you just make the rifle diesel and shoot terrible mate 👍
that's a very poor finished spring end ,hope you sorted it out before rebuilding as it will never shoot good, as it will cut into the guide washer and not let the spring spin freely and will bind up
Exactly that happened. I replaced the spring with an OEM Weihrauch 5.5ft/lbs properly finished spring. I don't know why, but spare springs from HW are properly finished on both sides while they install junk in their guns...
Can't I just squirt the whole thing down with WD-40?
If you want to clean it from the outside do it. But I wouldn't put in anywhere inside.
5 minutes of this video was just greasing with a tiny craft brush , omg dude really , im sure there are faster ways ...
Thanks for watching! ^^
Wtf
Wow way too much moly🤦♂️
Worked perfectly! You can use less, no problem. 😄
learn to speak as you demostrate, that why you will make more sense
The video is self explanatory. Next time I'll use music... maybe.
No speaking necessary...Its self explanatory.
I enjoyed the vid, thanks for taking the time to upload it!
Use a toothbrush for chrissake
Try speaking!
I have! It works. 😁😂
this is the worst...
Of what?
WOW! Worst video I've ever watched. No indication or audio indicating what he's doing, why he's doing it or what he's using. And this is helpful how?
Thanks for watching! 😁