The First* Time A '59 Burst Was Reissued | 1981 Gibson Les Paul Heritage Series Standard 80 History
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Today we are talking about the first time Gibson Nashville tried its best to create a '59 reissue. Despite their best efforts, these guitars aren't very good by "todays" reissue-standards, but they were a drastic change from the current lineup Les Paul Standard of the era. This was a great "step forward" that changed the history of the company and eventually birthed the "Les Paul Reissue" in the prehistoric era starting in 1983*
Today, you buy one of these quirky guitars for their cool look and vintage status - not necessarily because they are "accurate."
The First* Time A '59 Burst Was Reissued | 1981 Gibson Les Paul Heritage Series Standard 80 History
🐕 Episode Guide:
0:00 - Intro - Check Links in the Description
0:13 - About Gibson's Reissues
0:33 - The Certified Vintage Heritage 80 Proto
0:48 - Unboxing
1:33 - Where They Went Wrong
2:47 - Where They Went Right
3:46 - Why These Were Created
4:13 - Finishes
4:40 - Heritage 80 Elite
5:34 - Heritage 80 Award
6:02 - Which Is Right For Me?
7:08 - Inside Look / Specs
16:20 - Tone Demo
20:24 - Final Thoughts
21:15 - What to Watch Next!
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2:23 1978 Gibson Les Paul Custom Natural
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3:52 1983 Gibson Les Paul Dirty Lemon Burst
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What is the most accurate Gibson 59 reissue? Can we get a video of a side by side comparison of the accurate reissue with an actual 59?
The problem is they are all different (OG's) The tops were hand carved and the necks are all different because they are hand shaped and sanded ....hence many variables.
If you want an accurate construction, look at a japanese brand. The custom shop tokai (tokai ls200 and above models), Navigator or Crews will be constructed to the exact right specs, if you go high end enough, you get the exact same woods like Brazilian rosewood and Honduran mahogany. You wont get that through gibson. However, depending on the brand, you may need to replace pickups as the originals are ok but not great, same as gibsons
That really is a great example, it sounds really good for 70’s and 80’s Rock. Best sounding LP I’ve seen on your show for a while.
Those pups sounded fantastic. Great clarity for the cleans & that sweet, all too-familiar growl that you want from the dirt. Perfect!
That's a great looking Les Paul and in amazing condition for its age! Nice score Trogly.
As always, I learn something new from Austin with each episode! Thanks for what you do!🙏
these heritage 80s standards were good enough for mark knopfler and neil schon. i have loved many of these guitars that ive heard,and to my ears they can hang with the modern historics!
Along side with dave murray, Adrian vandenberg, Paul Stanley , john Denver ( which rarely used electrics used a heritage 80 standard) and many more...
I would imagine Johnny Winter, Scott Gorham and Brian Robertson used these.💯🔥
Hi Trogly, I purchased my heritage 80 new in January 1981 from Selmers in London, I never saw another one in a shop, unfortunately I part exchanged a White 61 SG Special that was a really great guitar, but for years I had wanted a Les Paul, silly me. I remember reading in a music mag at the time (possibly International Musician or Guitar Mag) that the reason the body size is different because Gibson took the measurements from a 1953 Custom Les Paul not a 1959 burst, this also made the horn slightly thinner because the 53 Custom had the thicker binding that changes the shape slightly on Customs horns (not quite so rounded) I can't remember the writer but it makes sense to me how the mistake could have been made.
The elites measured 436mm by the way...
The mighty Zeppelin
He was playing it a little too long....he MIGHT get a strike...hope not.
Edit: being facetious
My favorite type of episodes. Love the 70’s and 80’s les Paul’s 👍
Beautiful guitar!
I own a very clean honey burst 80s standard and it's the favorite les paul I own. The pickups are awesome and it looks great as well
This is the best so far, as far as the sound, that I've heard from any of your reviews.
Thank you Randy Leonard for sharing his experience and insight!
Thank you Trogly for documenting Gibson guitar history!
I had one and LOVED it. The Standard had a three piece neck but mine was so well bookmatched you had to look to find the seams. The Shawbucker bridge pickup was awesome! I got the guitar used. The beck pickup was sent to Duncan and was “ Seymourized”. This was when Seymour was not making pickups for sale but would rewind yours to what you wanted. Great guitar!
Your guitar playing is excellent! Great review! This is a dream guitar for me.
I have one and love it. Thanks for explaining the sig inside the cavity -mine is "star FL" without the +😢. The wiring is not 50s, but is very easy to mod without changing anything but solder points. Thanks Austin!
these are older now than the 59's were when the "reissue" was made.
Good call!
Damn that's crazy to think about
Yeah TWICE as old
What a gorgeous well kept well played guitar. The Shaw PAFs sounded really good to me, though I’m sure better pots would make them monster. I appreciated a little “Blackdog” in the demo too. Thanks for the great info Trogly.
Gorgeous guitar!
Thank You very much, for that great review and history lesson. Very well done!
Fun facts (which may or may not be true) - the Heritage 80 series were made with the last of the Gibson's wood stocks from the 50's; and Elite 1-piece neck was made from quarter-sawn timber. Also, the control covers were brown plastic, not black.
It seems that the current iteration of the 59' reissue is one of the best ever, if not the best.
Beautiful, sounds good too
Chatoyant! I really liked the way this guitar sounded, and your playing is improving all the time.
These have been on my wish list for a while... I do have a prehistoric les paul custom (1992) and it does feel different, in a better way, than my other custom
Sounds amazing
Wow! That is a birth year and day les Paul for me. Couldn’t afford but that would be a unicorn for me for sure. I can at least watch this video and know it exists.
I've never cared for heritage cherry burst or flame tops, but there's something about this one that is very appealing. I think it sounds great, too. I was thinking "Damn. This one even sounds better than a lot of the LPs Trogly shows off." I chuckled when he mentioned the pots and how the guitar sounds off to him. Different strokes
That is one beautiful guitar.
Trogly, I love your videos.Would love for you to do a video telling us why Gibson are your favorite guitars and how you first became obsessed!
I like this idea too!
Get with it
Lovely guitar and sound 👍
Great video Austin
I gotta say those Tim Shaw's have "that" Les Paul sound. It sounds exactly like what an LP on a 60s/70s rock record did; balanced (with a little work), clear, smooth, with all the best mids. I can see why someone would want one (separate from that awesome top).
I own a Heritage 80 and respectfully disagree. They're nice and sparkly clean, but no balls in the crunch department.
This is one of my favorite LPs
they were the limited edition guitars of the era...apx 1500 made..kind a like a custom shop of the day. Perfect top carve, best
woods gibson had at the time ..the tim shaws were designed for these reissues...the ones in this video are the real shaws ( the two row screws are not shaws) Great guitars!!! the Headstock angle is 17 degrees which was a unique feature back in the day . the goldtops are the rarest as only a handful of them were made. In my ears they sound better than the reissues
Cheers
Those pickups sound killer! I really like them.
I have a Tobacco burst Standard. However this is an extremely rare standard as it has a one piece neck and not a three piece. The reason being I can only assume they ran out of three piece necks so had to use ones made for the Elites. I love it. They didn't do too bad of an attempt at a true '59 apart from using three piece necks and the sharp cutaway. mine does weigh a tonne though, over 10lbs
Sounds great!
17:53 I think the buttery smooth neck pickup sound could be attributed to moving the pickup further away from the strings. I love that butter tone and I set my Strat pickups flush with the pick guard and my humbuckers almost flush with the pickup mounting rings.
I was in a band with a guy that had a "Kalamazoo" engraved truss rod cover, that came new with that. Not "KM," but "Kalamazoo." Always wondered what was special about that model.
I have a factory blk 82 lp w the nickel abr, thin binding, Shaws, deep dish carve, 1pc mahogany neck w skinny headstock, and nickel hardware. I love weird Norlin prehistoric offerings. Btw nice Heritage.
I have one and I love it! Had the choice between selling it or my Page Les Paul. Bye Jimmy, and it was (is) a great guitar. Play my Heritage in two bands right now. p.s. Has an ABR-1 put on it. ✌️😎🎸🎶🎵🎶🎵🎶
Trogly mentions multiple times his favorite Gibson knob are these UFO style. I personally prefer the gold speed knobs on most of my Gibsons. My favorite tuners are the Grover Rotomatics with kidney beans . I really don’t care for the Klusons. Different strokes but the period I came up in. 15:30
Jesus that is a drop dead gorgeous Les Paul
To me the top carve is one of the most important design features of a Les Paul. So important in fact that the "wrong" carve on my 76 custom bugged me so much that I had to take an angle grinder with a flap disc and make my own top carve :P A lot of work but it turned out pretty good! Probably devalued the guitar a bit, but it was a players grade guitar and it is my work horse, NOT a collectors item :)
Beautiful 😎👋👋💯
There's one of these on Reverb where the serial number dates to my birthday. I want it sooo bad!!
That top 😮
that is awesome
What a top! Very nice condition for the vintage
I love getting top
I can confirm that my R9 does indeed have a 17.25" long body. Well spotted on your example!
Great guitar. The top rocks and looks to be in tidy shape, despite those gouges.
Nice one.
Your making me want a Les Paul again , but , been there , done that . Had many , and found that I like Bolt on Flat Top guitars
Been playing since 1978
I have a Gibson Invader that just Kills
It may not be an accurate '59 but it's a great-looking and good-sounding LP.
And sounds better than most modern reissues
Troggy gets hard on a LP Heritage Series Std. 80!
"I my Goodness".....getting a Woodrow
Sounds like a keeper to me!
@12:55 the Les Paul Model silk-screen on the headstock is positioned lower than it would be on a true 59 burst or even the current re-issues.
I'd love to know if this model or something like this was used by Paul Stanley on the Hot in the Shade Tour. He had a few of these he'd play on that tour. They all had gorgeous tops.
We all have to go one day. Trogly will have a Gibson Les Paul in his hands. 👍
With my luck I’ll have a Chibson in mine
She's a keeper
As far as the tops I like a good flame top but a quilt top especially the one you compared the feature guitar to has that gorgeous top the dances and mesmerizes. Both are beautiful guitars. And I wouldn't mind owning one or both. They would definitely be played. I've bought a few guitars from C&M back in the day that thought me to really examine the axes. They tended to have handling damage. Some which was really bad. Those tuners look more like milk kettles to me rather than milk bottles. I love that warm sound those pickups create . It's full but not so think that it sounds muddy. I saw where one guy on a forum said that Les Pauls no matter what model aren't good for playing metal. I don't know what rock he'd been having his head under but this guitar and bands at least as early as Led Zeppelin to bands that have stood the test of time like Metallica have proved how wrong that guy was.
I love the “you can’t play x genre of music with y guitar” debate. It really doesn’t matter. Some may be more ideal for certain genres, but at the end of the day, they’re all electric guitars, and they all work the same.
@@bucknasty69 yes . I've heard to many Gen z hate on bands like the Beatle a ND Zeppelin saying neither have contributed to today's music. And how they think what is now being called pinch harmonics is new to their generation. Then I ruin their day and give them examples of bands who have credited bands like Beatles and Zeppelin as main influences. Many of which they love. And I further go on to teach them of bands that had been doing pinch harmonics before it was called that.
Damn that is a nice flame top.
Love those PAF...
I'd like to see a breakdown of the 2019 LP Traditional (Heritage Cherry, just for good measure).
Good choice of songs to play with a 59 !
Hey everyone!
Hello there
Well done, you earned a Silver Medal
@@sgt.grinch3299 thanks Sgt.!
This guitar is six days older than me. This would make a perfect birth year guitar for me.
Want a whole lotta' love.💯👏👍🔥Gorgeous axe.
héritage 80 standard are made 1100 guitars........plane top.
héritage 80 élite are made only 300 worldwide........hand curved top
these are one of the best ever made gibson guitars. super collectables. the mojo is unique on these
Historically, I believe only the gold top and ebony were available. My DC reissue has a few things that aren’t period correct too but those tops!!! AAA or AAAA.
Good video
I know purists will say “It must have a 1 piece neck! (Technically 3 because of the headstock wings)” But, a multi piece neck should have more stability in the long run since it’s got more structure to it. Plus you can get some fun wood grain mixed in, my SE Custom 24 has a crazy flame maple center on the 3 piece neck!
Edit: 300k pots worked for me on a guitar that had coil splits, really evened out the massive volume drop between hum and single.
The original vintage 1959-1960 bursts had 500k/500k pots. The lower ohm (300k/100k) were a response to the mahogany getting heavier and denser over the years, and the switch to alnicoV and ceramic magnet pickups, which makes them overly bright. The lower ohm pots make the guitar darker.
All right all right everybody!!!
Howdy James!
The pointy horn cutout was the first thing my eye went to when you pulled it out of the box. I knew it looked to pointy. I’m a freak.
the late 70's early 80's Les Paul's with that pointy horn are down right goofy looking. 1982 and later the horns are a better shape.
Wow that's a great top
I have an early one second serial 0099. Pickups look a tad different but same certainly Shaws as they were all advertised with them. Maybe has a lot of curls in the maple like an elite
I absolutely love dings, scratches and other signs of love and use. Why are you so opposed to these lovely details?
A lot of people find that the Shaws are a bit harsh with 500k pots and sound better with 300k volume and 500k tone. YMMV. But that guitar is a great find!
@The Trogly”s Guitar Show how would you compares the quality of Custom Shop Historic 59s pre 2018 vs the new ones CS 2019+ ? Why LP59s Historic Collections are more expensive than a brand new CS?
I like the big honkin' valute!
My only gripe with these guitars is that they used 300k pots if i remember correctly which gave them a dark, kinda "muddy" sound. Definitely not a tele on steroids tone. I might be mistaken though, its been quite a ling time since i got to play one of those.
Easy change to 500k delivers that burst tone in spades...i have one
Whoa! NOW I understand why everyone tries to duplicate Tim Shaw sound! Now that I've heard it, I can't unhear it.
Yes, the pots do make them sound choked. Easy swap.
I bought two of these new in '81. One goldtop. One black. I sadly let the black one go, but am told it's in the custody of one James Iha. I don't play it much, as the Shaws have no balls and the frets are too flat. It's too rare to mod, so it mostly sits for now.
Zzzzzzzzzzzz
Trogley. Are there three pickup Paul's with circuitboard pickups?
Good condition for an 80s guitar
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You made the podium for today and earned a Bronze Medal Andy.
@@sgt.grinch3299 Cheers Sgt
3 piece neck is actually an improvement over vintage spec though
thats a cool les paul even if not entirely specs correct!
Gorgeous top, but that pointy horn, makes it look so goofy.
Reminds me of a Greco.
That was a nice "Good Riddance" interpretation
Yo
Ever thought of getting the neck and headstock angle?
Yahoo
I got a fun idea for you: when demoing guitars you could look up one or a couple songs from that year and play a bit of them. Adds a bit of variety and it's "vintage correct" 😂
😎Ax Trog🙏✌️❤️
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That’s cuz most people that were any good used the neck pickup to do most everything. The treble is secondary.
Big time false
RIP CGS