The Coin that Changed History
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- Welcome to this weeks video. This week we take look at the worlds most expensive Iron Age coin. Found just 6 months ago in a local field this coin changed the way we look at Iron Age Britain.
As always, we are not historians, we just enjoy learning about routes, history and such, and sharing our journey of learning with you. These videos are not specifically there for educational purposes, more so for you to learn a little (and maybe a lot more thereafter) and join us on these adventures.
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Great video😁Was nice to be the person to make this installment in the history books🤩
Thanks Lewis. A pleasure to make the video. Keep on hunting!
It turns out the coin is not unique! Academics at the Ashmolean Museum in Oxford have found two other examples in the records, which because of heavy wear or heavily trimmed inscriptions had previously been overlooked. The previously unknown king was a certain, Esunurtos, the first two letters recovered from one of the other coins of the same type.
Ooooh epic. Thank you
Wouldn't that kind of make it more unique? Though 🤔 cause that exact coin solved the problem 🤷 without that coin, the problem never gets solved. It gets overlooked and never looked at again
@@RandleMcMurphy-cy1bh- Well, technically it’s only unique if there’s only one of them.
@@sirrathersplendid4825 true that , That's why I Also like your comment I was torn between two worlds I guess not the best choice of words For the title
So pleased that you picked up on this. Could not think of a better person to do this. Well done 😊
Thank you... It may have been you who sent the link?
@@pwhitewick yes it was. Great presentation
Thought it would tickle you interest
@@wendarampton1888 do feel free to send as maaaaaany as you wish!!
My son found this coin .
Changing history, is the amazing part 👌
I live in Normandy, France, I have found a stater and a quarter stater in my local area. In the plough soil. No particular landmarks nearby. They are the coins of a tribe which gave their name to the town of Bayeux of tapesty fame. We are actually much nearer to the capital of another tribe. Another way of recognising which tribe made a coin is by the metal. Some staters were gold, but the ones made by the Baiocassi weremade of electrum...a naturally occurring alloy of gold and silver. It is interesting to note that stater design was a corrupted/ almost abstract interpretation of coins from the classical world. Many celts served as mercenaries in southern Europe and they saw the coinage of the Greeks and Romans. Look at these coins and you clearly see the way the celtic coins evolved from those designs. In another field of my rural hamlet I found a silver denarius which was from Republican Period of Rome. It is dated 110 BC. About the same period as the two gallo-celtic coins. The design has a chariot on one side and a helmeted head in profile on the other. The celtic coins are the same...but the design is much more abstract and wild.
what do you mean by 'dated 110 BC' ? I don't suppose it was stamped '110 BC'
@@abrogard142 The coin isn't dated as such but the personage on the coin is particular to that time. Roman republican coins have a well-established time-line.
The old highways and trails are as old as time.
That's Cool. Good luck.
😮very cool
no you didnt
I really wish that here in the states, we had the type of archeology that you guys have there. Soooo much preserved going soooo far back. Great vid.
In the states might lay some real old treasures in the ground. Theres just been a 25000 year old mega city found in Equador. Thats twice as old as the very first settlers have been thought! A mega city ;•) that means there should be much and smaller places still to be found, and that should include the most southern states.
Great video, Danebury Hill fort seems enormous. Very interesting story really well told as always. Have a great week!!
It really is!
Is it just a coincidence that the fictional Essex town depicted in "The Detectorists" is also called Danebury?
A big thank you Paul and Rebecca for this video . Interesting history and a great find by a fellow detectorist.
Would love to have a go one day!
@@pwhitewick I will try and arrange it one day.
I work in a house that sits under old Sarum. 5 minutes from my place. I have always wondered what the hill forts in Warminster are. I also grew up near one called Mazehill Tump in Dundry in South Bristol. Love the show!
Thank you. Lots of different uses for sure.
I visited Danebury this summer and picked up a sherd of an early iron-aged pot as I walked up the slope. Quite made my day, always check the rabbit holes. :)
I am no expert, but the little I know of my own part of the Belgae area suggests that the Belgae were a grouping of tribes ('federation' is probably too strong a term). To the south and east of Winchester, the locals were known as Meonwara, or people of the Meon (Valley). As I understand, they seem to have retained a distinct identity into the Migration Period, regulating Saxon/Belgic access to settle in the then depopulated Meon Valley.
Wow... thanks David. Love that. I guess it makes sense to have tribes within tribes.
As a fellow Belgae area inhabitant, it’s interesting to see how things worked before the time of the Romans.
#TribesAllTheWayDown ?
Everytime a coin is found they invent another king hmmmm very suspicious dont you think?
Forts decode on my channel.
The Belgae were Cymric Brythonic speakers, for they were part of the Silurian Dobunnae of South Wales , just look at their areas in Belgium and Northern France Calais Morlais Ypres Amiens Cambrai and on and on, they are Cymric Brythonic names, these Celtic Coins were mainly minted in Wales, especially the Bodvoc 500 BC, Bodvoc means Buddug in Cymric Victory, the early Gold and Silver coins are found all over Europe, there have been finds of coins found in Ireland of the Bodvoc, Usus was God of the Valleys and Hills.
The History of Britain is not from the East, it is West to East and has been for 10000Years.
Though the question needs to be raised, did the coin originate from that region? Was it, instead, brought there by trade or lost by a traveller? Anciently, I mean. If it's unique among all other Belgic coins, but has characteristics similar to those elsewhere (i.e. an inscribed name), that has to be a suspicion. Coins are, after all, *portable* wealth.
Good video, as ever.
Could isotopic analysis help with that question? I am from the other side of the planet, having no knowledge of local gold sources, if any, but I thought it could be useful.
That's a definite possibility going by the information we currently have. However, even if it did come in from elsewhere, the fact that it's showing a previously unknown Iron Age king from anywhere is of incredible archaeological value by itself. I can only hope we find more evidence of him and his people.
Of course, I may be a little biased as I grew up just a few miles from there and used to be an archaeologist.
@ThePawsOfDeception You mean you're no longer a paid archeologists. I didn't think retirement existed for anyone in your line of work. You're either working on a dig, or on a Sabbatical.
Lol
@@AquaFyrre er... Yes I did. It's right there at the end of the post.
@@ExposingReflections Normally you're absolutely right. Not only are we not paid enough to retire, why would anyone want to resign from the best job in the world?
In my case, hip injury leading to chronic pain and a perforated gastric ulcer both made me physically incapable of carrying on.
Thank you. Lovely. Concise, informative, interesting. Liked the use of the shadow/silhouette to indicate the ghostly presence of the Belgae.
It wasn't quite what I was after but actually think it worked in the end
Gives the saying ”Money talks” a whole new meaning…
A better and more genuine use too!
I used to watch the massed helicopter display during the Wallop air show, from the Hill fort in the early 80's. That was some sight having a hundred helicopters lifting into the air all around you at the same time then coming together over the airfield.
They were doing some extensive training of some kind here on the day
loved the video again Paul and Rebecca, some really nice views , very interesting as always , really well done and thank you both 😊😍
Thank you!
Really very interesting. I think I read about this coin in the German News Magazine Der Spiegel.
And next time remember the sun when you put up your tripod. 🤣
I noticed... I just... loooved that shot.
Every time you walked past it, I had to quiet the voice within worried that you'd forget your camera
Thanks Paul and Rebecca, really enjoyed that.... absolutely fascinating! 😊
Brilliant, superb tale, I loved it.
Many thanks!
Always informative and the enthusiasm shines through 👍
Really impressive VERY high quality video, love the use of unusual synth music 😁
Instant sub 👍
One of your best, Paul, bravo!
Thanks for this fascinating short video (and of course to the detectorist who found the coin).
Another great video and story. My wife and I used to live at Middle Wallop (early to mid-90s) and used to walk up to and around Danebury Hillfort. It is a wonderful place to visit. We'll have to return for a visit one day.
Excellent very interesting to watch
Really interesting and well presented! Thank you!
A fascinating, well-researched video. Well done!
Thanks Malcolm
Enjoyed this. Nicely paced
Very interesting paul and rebecca. I really lovè your channel, its so good. From an irishman living in nova scotia, cheers
Absolutely fascinating!
Wow, that was fascinating
Love how the tribal areas have been surmised - just goes to show how important coinage is.
Just think, without the portable antiquities scheme we may never have known about this coin.
The king was also known as The Great Cornholio. He still needs TP, he needs it for his bungholio.
another great video & its could well be a game changer😊
That was an interesting one spent hours round and about green lanes from Abbots and Clatford so found this really interesting. Michael
As fascinating as ever thank you!
Fantastic video, seriously Fantastic video!
Thank you. Very kind.
Brilliant video, thanks. I love hillforts, must be some past life stuff lol
His long walk convinced me of the large size of the fort. But I would have liked to see the fort; even an artist's rendition.
Have a quick look on google maps. Its no Maiden castle, but its still quite the size.
@@pwhitewick Thank you!
Something I did not know or think about, we had coins before the Romans cane to the UK.
Nice video. Would have been nice to get a longer, more detailed look at both sides of the actual coin though!
This isn't the only coin that rewrote history. There are about a dozen coins with two kings on the obverse side. Alfred of Wessex and Ceolwulf the 2nd of Mercia. No-one even knew about the alliance until a coin horde was discovered in 2015. Until then, Ceolwulf was thought to be a puppet of the Vikings and not a real king. Needless to say, there are a lot of gaps in British History that are still devoid of details; factual details, at that.
Another great video and also very active
well done Mr Fudge. great vlog....love your naration and style of vlog
Fantastic thanks
Interesting story to be told, but what a setting to tell it!! Danebury Hill Fort is a gorgeous hike - it's now on the list for my next visit to England... if the weather is nice 😅
I always used to walk the dogs at Danebury, love that place!!! So awesome so see you walk around all the places I've walked and lived.
Forgot to mention, they have there once a year a crop circle club, they create a few during August I believe, quite funny to see the media reporting what it actually isn't. You can see them and speak to the artists that do it =) Just at the bottom of the road, first car park as you entre.
@@CraigJukes If you look at the work of Anthony Peratt(nuclear plasma
physicist ) you will find the origin of those symbols on that coin.
An interesting period of history before Julius Caeser in 55/54BC where little was known. Hopefully more will be known in the future.
May I recommend a visit to Castell Henllys in Wales. A fantastic iron age village reconstruction site. Just amazing to experience for history nuts like ourselves.
Great vid as always!
marvelous story thanks
600-550BC.. Britains first forts being built.. after the EEmpire with the socketed spear and axeheads left?
UrsesArctos.. the British brown ‘atlas’ bear perhaps?
Great vid thanks!☘️
Thank you.
Thank you for sharing 🩵 very interesting..
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A remarkable video today. Did not see yesterday. These are always the ones I look forward to. Unfortunately I will never get back to the UK. So your trips full in my empty thoughts. Help to Rebecca for me. See you on the next Paul. Enjoy the week ahead. Cheers Paul. ❤❤😊😊
Cassibellaun (fought Julius Caesar), fl ca 54 BC, whom you mention, though pronounced slightly differently.
Tenuantius, ca 20 BC-AD 10.
These are from Geoffrey of Monmouth. No mention of your Esunertos. Perhaps a local ruler under sway of Tenuantius, or Geoffrey's kings didn't rule all of Britain. See my _Fifteen: AD 429--The Rise of the Pendragons_ for a complete list of Geoffrey's kings.
Great mate, you should be given a show on a mainstream channel!
Sunday Afternoon ❤
Welcome
There are some Celtic coins called Thurrock MA Potins, which were minted in the UK from 150BC (and some potentially earlier). There is some confusion about them though so you may want to look into them yourself. Thoughr to be coins from the Canti tribe of Kent (I found one, hence I know a little about them). Great video :)
The years of wishes...!
Lovely,
Love your history programme, so informative . Be it lost roads ,rail, canals or now a coin..
It's more 'content' than a "programme" sorry to be that person
...don't get me wrony though, Paul deserves to be on the actual television making shows for let's say Channel 4, also Paul wouldn't forget where he's come from unlike a certain T*kt*k tw*t who has made the rail-fanning community look a bit of a joke in some places ...and got a show on Channel 4!
Great show Paul 👍⚔️💫🍷🌎🏴🇦🇺
Awesome. And I thought the Danebury metal detectorists club was fiction. Don't forget the first rule of metal detectoring school.
What amazing vlog one thing changed the whole history as we no today
There's quite a lot wrong with that drone sign. First of all, the 5km radius figure is wrong. In the case of Middle Wallop, the Flight Restriction Zone is a circle with radius 4.2km with some sticky out bits (like a London underground sign) that align with the direction of the runway that go out to 5.2km. Most drones used by ordinary people have what is called "geofencing" which will automatically keep them out of restricted areas.
The other restrictions mentioned only apply to drones that weigh more than 250g. The vast majority of drones used by ordinary people in this country weigh less than that (eg DJI Mini) and so these restrictions do not apply.
Yes yes yes.... half the reason I included that sign. I was a tad frustrated. In fact I took my 249g outside of the perimeter for quite some distance and it still wouldn't let me take off
@@OPOCHKA not all restrictions listed relate to a 249g
@@OPOCHKA I wish we could. Their number came up on my screen to call them, but there is no service there 🤪
As a child, we would visit Danebury ring. On one visit my father found a 'brooch', it was handed in to Winchester museum.
I am from E Yorks. It would be nice if you could find some wonderful information about the Parisi - what magnificent people they were or such.... ? So that I can bask in reflected glory.
History didn't change. The modern understanding did.
Fair. I couldn't fit that in the title though
Cool Beans !!!
that was good..thanks
You're welcome!
Fascinating as ever, Paul. I wonder if the coinage from that time by this king was not heavily minted or whether there’s great hordes of them left to be found?
Fascinating. A lot isn’t really known about the early Celtic tribes.
Just seen Geoff Marshall latest video. Interesting drone shots.
Maybe one day someone will find a coin commemorating Biggus Dickus. Until then he remains largely a mythical figure.
The romans said the Welsh couldn't read or write yet there is a coin found and the kings name is on it found in Somerset and the date was 70 bc
That coin clearly shows the Buddhist eight-spoked wheel ☸. Seems as if maybe a Buddhist missionary beat 'Joseph of Aramathea' to what is now England. After all, Buddhism had already been around since 500 BCE. Since the Belgae were Celts, and the Celts originated in the East, in Scythia, which was a Buddhist area, it's possible that some of their Buddhist religious beliefs were still held at that time.
Wow Paul this was an amazing story. Well investigated by yourself. What a great documentary this is. Thank you
Thank you kindly!
Did it fetch Mr Fudge £20k at auction? After reading the process for reporting treasure I’m honestly surprised no museum wanted it
Agreed, I'm afraid I don't know the process
What did you do in 2023?
The guy: I found a coin
perhaps some 3D imagery from something like Google Earth can be used in lieu of drone footage?
A thoroughly interesting history lesson - great stuff ! (*_*)
Thanks again!
I have a hard time understanding how these ancient people had enough time to build such earthworks.
The scale baffles me too!
Keep in mind there wasn't much else to do between planting season & harvest -- except to raid your neighbor's cattle. And that these earthworks weren't constructed over one summer or two, but likely over a few decades. I'd also guess that even at their prime they were never as impressive or thoroughly finished as the archeologists' reproductions make them look.
No TikTok or CZcams.
I'm surprised that the museum didn't keep the coin for there libraries?
Likewise!
If the dates are now so inaccurate due to the finding of the coin, imagine how many more dates are inaccurate throughout the Country, especially the Dunomii who had no coins.
Dozens of Roman, Iberian, and Phoenician coins have been found over the past 300 years along the rivers in Eastern America and we're told from on high (academia)that it means nothing (modern collectors lost them when crossing rivers). Yet ONE coin found in Britain changes history! Wow! That's amazing!
See Britain gets mentioned a myriad of times in the writings of these people who kept better records than the US today whereas the Americas are not mentioned with a single little sentence, everywhere. Neither is the technology nor the navigatory knowledge necessary to reliably reach them. Add to that, that if there were trade with the natives then that would be with the Mississipian culture at places like Poverty Point down south and not on the Eastern Seaboard. Also, you don't trade with distant lands using your own currency, you barter goods given that your new best friend can't really spend your Sesterzi, Shekel or Denari in downtown Cahokia and has no way of reaching any place that accepts them as a means of payment.
@@mnk9073 The Americas are mentioned numerous times in multiple sagas and histories. Called "the other world " before in became the new world. As for not trading coinage, they certainly would among themselves in there settlements. As for the mounds, the "indians" didn't build them, have no history of mounds building. Bur mounds are found all over northwest Europe.
@@chriscarey1478 You are aware that the oldest recorded sagas are from the 1200s? Leif Eriksson made it to Newfoundland in 1021, a land, as the Grænlendinga saga explicitly states, previously _unknown_ to them by following the northern coast and avoiding the open sea.
Still a millenia too late for Roman coins, let alone Phoenician ones...
@@mnk9073 What about Guanabara bay? Cocaine in ancient Egypt etc
@@mnk9073 Bat creek stone, decalog stones(in the eastern woodlands, as well as the southwest), knight's swords found in Canada. Phoenician ships at least as good as viking ships that made it to Canada and Brazil.
Thanks man, I finally know what I'm gonna do with the rest of my life! I'll combine coin collecting with walking! Those two activities were MADE for each other! How in the world did I never see that?
You can..... change history. But maybe do it within the confines of the law, otherwise I'll get in trouble
Is the 5 miles measured from the centre of the airfield or the edge. If you add Wallop, Thruxton, Boscombe, Netheravon and Upavon, it's a large overlapping area.
Cor - wished I had found that coin!!! 🤔🚂🚂🚂
How can they be sure the coin was minted in that area, especially as there is no other evidence for this king ever existing in the uk? It could have come from anywhere at any time tbh. A roman or other uk or european soldier or trader could have dropped it or gifted it to a local maybe?
That's a very good question as I pondered on this myself. I think because it was extremely similar to all the other Belgae Tribe coins then it was almost certain it belongs to the same.
They can test the metal purity, and tell if the metal was likely mined in the same area as other locally collected coins.
Not saying they have, but it can be done.
He's done it again!
No drones? That’s probably because you’re in Middle Wallop’s ATZ. Your man @Hedley will know better than I.
You're not wrong. Sadly I didn't have time or service to make the call. Next time!!
Excellent video and very near where I live, so doubly interesting for me. Not sure it "changed history" (set an appreciation of past events on a new course), rather than "added to history" (provided more detail to an established interpretation). Perhaps I'm wrong here.
Agreed entirely. In order for this to gain traction though, youtube insisted I remove the "Helped us understand" from the title.
As far as I know it hasn't affected the price of a pint.
Wow
Amazing! What about that wheel-like symbol on the coin? What could that be?
You forgot that hill forts were protected with hawthorn and intertwined bramble in there earthworks, an impenetrable mesh of natural barbed wire
I've often thought that these hill forts should have had rose bushes planted along the ramparts. They are a native species that likes the climate, would be easy to cultivate and thick rose thorns are like Somme barbed wire. No traces would remain of them after 2000 plus years. Most of that sort of thing would have been torn out to make room for medieval agriculture.
That's true, and the sheer amount of bee's that would be attracted to them would probably put any attacking army into anaphylactic shock
@@gilesleonard6876 Mead makings might be a bi-product.
Excellent video. Just one crit: :'Belgae' is pronounced 'bell-guy', with a hard g, and definitely not 'bell-gee-ah'.
I imagine he pulled it out, saw there was a name on it, and said to his friend " . . . I don't recognise this one, it isn't from round here, OUR coins got no names on them !".
As far as I know one of the most important, powerful tribes in Britain, the Catuvellauni, have no coins with their tribal name on them .
Even though Caesar came to Britain to defeat the catuvellauni, I'm pretty sure he doesn't name them .
Coins were minted in verulamium, various names of kings/ cheiftans appear .
The city VER ,appears but none have CAT CATU or anything resembling Catuvellauni.
Its the same with other tribes .
Although with the spreading hobby of metal detecting many new coins are being found..
What did the Celts use the coins for? If they were not literate or numerate, did these coins have much use?
I have no clue, though I wonder if a lot of these higher status ones were more for show?
We assume they used them just like all the other coins in use across Europe in those centuries: they paid for things with them. The symbols would have been easily recognisable and there was no danger of confusing a silver coin with a copper one. It's mostly only the noble metal coins that have survived being buried for a couple of thousand years, I guess.
They were numerate.
Interesting, thank you.@@jonathanrichards593
There are very large numbers of coins of the era which have survived which are made of bronze, billon (low grade silver- usually about a quarter silver to base metal) and potins which were made of tin-based alloy.Not unusual at all and are sold on coin auction sites. It is perfectly possible to own a genuine celtic coin for a very modest outlay. (Less than £30 for a potin.)@@jonathanrichards593
Great video but your tribal pronunciation was a bit off as others have said: not only Belgae = Bell guy, but the bates in Atrebates would closer to bah tess I believe. Anyway, very interesting video.
Cheers and agreed. So far the following have been suggested. I wonder who is right. Beljay, Belguy, Belgee.
@@pwhitewick well my old Latin teacher would have had a fit if he heard you pronounce it Beljay lol. Btw pw your other content is right up my street - lost canals and railways - instant subscribe!
@@pwhitewick Since the names were given to us by the Romans (bloody Romans! What have they ever done for us?!), my understanding is that it's a hard "g" and "ae" is "eye". The Metatron or Polymathy would know the correct classical pronunciation.
@@thhseeking "Since the names were given to us by the Romans (bloody Romans! What have they ever done for us?!), my understanding is that it's a hard "g" and "ae" is "eye". The Metatron or Polymathy would know the correct classical pronunciation."
We have no idea how the Romans would have pronounced it either and we base whatever we think we know about it on Church Latin pronunciations that have had 1600 years to mutate themselves. The "correct" Latin pronunciation is whatever the academics-du-jour say it is. Very few of them remember Latin as a working language.
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I do worry about the preconceptions we project onto our past. Did we really organise ourselves into "tribes" or are many of those "tribal names" just simple descriptions like "the people of the Dales" or "the hill farmers" with no political or ethnic barriers implied. I don't see much evidence for the survival of those names over long periods of time - which suggests they were just mercural labels rather than distinct enduring populations. Many of those used by the Romans were mundane expressions made up by the Romans themselves - such as the Ancalites which meant 'the hard ones' and the Catuvellauni which meant "warriors". The Hwicce (or Wicce) is one that appears seemingly from nowhere on the banks of the Severn then soon disappears into Mercia. No one even knows the language the name derived from (although there are no shortage of theories) but it may just have referred to the wicker baskets they made. Reconstructed lineages of kings are often ascribed to these "kingdoms" retrospectively and yet the word "king" or "rex" is rarely added to the coin the name is gleaned from. Even "Arthur" is unlikely to have been a "king" in the modern sense. These are not the distinct races that people today seem to want to believe in.
I wish Time Team was still a thing.