United are Rubbish! Ben Foster & Goldbridge Man Utd News
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 28. 04. 2024
- After a frustrating draw against Burnley, Man United are looking even more on the ropes. Erik ten Hag's future could still be in a lot of doubt. Will Marcus Rashford silence his critics? Goldbridge and Ben Foster discuss all this and more!
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Mark had nothing to comeback with when ben said ten hag has no game plan đ
I donât think the Wheelie Bin comment was abuse. You were making an analogy. If a wheelie bin doesnât have its wheels, it no longer functions as a wheelie bin. Rashford is not functioning in his desired position at the moment. For some reason his âwheelsâ have fallen off (at the moment).
If ÂŁ375k a week don't make the bin's wheelies turn then it's time to get rid of the bin.
Totally agree. You canât expect to take home a handsome wage, consistently fail to perform, and just slip under the radar.
Well said đđ»
It was not said as an analogy. You're sticking up for Mark. He said to take the piss. Smart arse remark.
Goldie was scared sh*tless
we will never compete for league titles with a team built around Rashford and Bruno, why can fans not understand that?
Bruno will be fine in a team with quality players around him. Rashford, who knows.
I totally agree!
Bruno bench player at best
Rashford get rid!
What do u hate with Bruno
Anyone who thinks Bruno is one of the biggest problems is mentally deficient.
Exactly! And that doesn't mean Bruno and Rashford are useless. At their best they would be challenging for top 4 but never for the title.
The problem with Onana is he's rooted to his line, never cuts down the angle. That's why so many long and medium range shots go past him (and not right in the corner, either).
Casemiro is playing like he is going to leave but Onana is just as much to blame for his reckless approach for the ball. As if he didnât learn from the Wolves game.
He wasn't punished in the wolves game because the penalty wasn't given so he thought he could get away it again
Onnana needs to go in the Summer and Ten Haig and half the Team
â@alanholgate3442 grow up. This is real life, not a simulation.
â@@alanholgate3442You don't give a 9/10 performance in a UCL Final against Man City if you're not a brilliant player...Onana needs a set-up like Inter, Ajax, Barca or Man City... players around him that want the ball and are comfortable receiving it at any pace, any angle.
Do people watch football? Keepers make mistakes.. u would think it is only onana.
I am glad that Ben comes on every so often to provide some clarity and objectivity, I did not even bother watching the Henry Winter interview because I know his style and it pains me to think that we should all avoid saying what we think, for the sake of offending a person. I am not suggesting that we should do the opposite and be inconsiderate for the sake of it but all players get abuse on Social Media and if you can't take it, the only solution to that is, stay away! My gosh, what a concept!
Besides, is being called lazy, apathetic, selfish or self centered, is that abuse? What Rashford needs to do, is figure out why we are turning on him and calling him those things. Then try to address it. We are not labelling you negatively because we are evil, most of us are calling out what we are seeing on the pitch. If you are playing for the team and showing heart, even when you are failing, we will support you but at the moment, you simply look like you don't care.
The more Mark talks the more I realise he hasnât got a clue about football.
Played the game at primary school is different to playing at an elite level
Ben Foster speaking facts. Essentially saying there is no tactical set-up by a complete lack of structure
You would never hear Mark acknowledge that
@@pratham014 Itâs good that a former professional footballer sees the issues around ETH
Ben is speaking so much more sense then Mark. Not just defending ETH just for the sake of defending him and refuse to see things that are in the manager control but done wrongly.
Ben is speaking from a position of not blaming the players
Mark is Erik's mate.
@@rowanndlovu15 I am just saying he speaks more sense. He spoke about structure and that's not all exactly on the players. The manager is the 1 who set up the structure in every game. U see Mark face turn when Ben low key saying its also about the structure and how the manager set the game up etc. Not just blindly support the manager.
@@generalwasteman Well. Unless i am wrong Ben did criticize Rashford in this video. No? I am not saying it is all ETH fault. But hell, Mark is always saying and giving the impression like ETH has no fault at all and is the best manager in the world or something.
Sounds more like you're projecting your opinion onto him
Thanks Ben for mentioning how organized and structured Arsenal were when they were in defense. I say we are constantly too open especially in the midfield. The individual pressing kills us. Regardless of who is playing on the backline. It's something that needs to be addressed this summer and next year.
Arsenal conceded two goals when they went more defensive and probably could of drew that game...having to many behind the ball at times can hurt you...
I mean Arsenal has arguably the best center back in the league, no defensive injuries, the second best CDM in the league, and a proper structure thatâs been implemented over the past 4 seasons. Itâs not really a comparison. We have Casemiro at center back and no CDM right now đ
â@@SweetRyGuyBut that's the managers fault, and his brutal tactical acumenđ
Man Utd plays like they have no coach at all. Tactics like from a school playground lol.
â@@robbiestones9447the first was an error from Raya, not because they were being defensive.
Never before seen a keeper beaten at his near post as much as onana
If Onana stood there and they scored, everyone would have said a Man Utd keeper should come out and clear everythingâŠitâs a lose/lose situation for Onana
true, but goalkeeping is all about decision making and Onana hasnt exactly covered himself in glory with his decision making this season. I think most people agree he didnt have much need to attack the ball the way he did, and when you add it to the long list of mistakes hes made this season I think the criticism is fair here
The fans are using few players as a scapegoat for ETH.
No. Then casemiro would have got the blame entirely for an incredibly poor header.
@@Logicsuperceeds heâs still getting the blame it was a shocking header lol
@@BassicKMuzic the key word was "entirely" the fact onana is being mentioned at all is something that shouldn't have happened, and wouldn't have if he just stayed out of it.
WHY DOESN'T Mark allow his guests to finish a thought? It's getting on my nerves and so annoying. This thing would be the reason I don't bother listening to the Podcast, because his is the only voice I hear which makes no sense.
He's not as bad as Beth with interrupting people though. Will keeps him grounded on the podcast TBF.
Mark is constantly yapping.
Mark has kept Beth to make him look good. The best of the worst.
All your comments are pure hate đđđ
â@@dinoorman749criticism not hate
All the best to Mctominay take as much time as you need to recover don't rush back lad. đđŸ
The way mark backs and defends Ten Hag, is something everyone wishes to have in their partner. đ
I know it's a lot to expect from young men, but I think a conscious decision to not be on social media would do these players good.
Ben's got it right when he says it's what you allow in to effect you.
Inter much better this season without Luakaku and OhNonana
Mark showing his lack of understanding of how a team defends making excuses about the back 4. Ben educating him but I don't think Mark will listen and learn
Ben trying not to laugh at the wheelie bin joke hahaha
Acting like we can actually play football would be good enough for me next season. Weâre a bloody shambles
I half-expect Mark to come out with a shaved head and an IStandWithErik T-shirt if we drop points to Palace.
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See how he tryâs to talk over Ben , when heâs afraid what heâs gonna say
đđ Brilliant.
palace will slap us up without breaking sweat
Stay seated Mark, that penalty was always Onana fault. It was a rush of blood to the head. He was never going to get to it. Didn't learn anything from the same mistake at start of the season.
Marks comments about âwhoâs the replacement thenâ are ridiculous. Most fans wouldnât have picked Slot for Liverpool, but thatâs because weâre not sporting directors with a team of people working on it. Just because I donât know who the new manager should be doesnât mean there arenât any candidates.
Exactly. Just admit it hasnât worked. Utd fans can moan about the players but they also have to acknowledge Ten Hags recruitment has been on the whole shambolic. Heâs now in situation blaming lack of options because of injuries, when he blew his budget over the summer on two players in positions that were never a priority and have actually been far worse than the players they replaced.
Iâm pretty sure no United fan has ever hated ten hag, they all have wanted him to do well and still do. Itâs not an agenda, itâs realism.
He claims he doesn't do agenda and player FC. I have never seen anyone more than Mark drive his agenda. And Rashford puts out a tweet and bruno scores a couple goals he has started to cozy upto them again.
You are so stupid mate
He also deletes comments and bans chats when he doesn't agree
Marks excuses are getting so pathetic. Ex players even saying this is coaching of the entire team. Stop mentioning the half the back line. Itâs more than that
You can coach all you want but if some idiots do not want follow, like that stinky rashford who is on 300k a week, what can you do? Use some bloody logic!!
â@@Halohalo2323 it's the same argument we had when Ole was "at the wheel." If players are underperforming yet you keep picking them, if players aren't following your instructions yet you keep picking them... What they do becomes your fault. In this team that has never been repercussions except for certain players. Everyone who believes Ten Hag is going to drop Rashford or Bruno next year is living a dream. No one is trying to claim the players are innocent, but the manager is the leader, the buck starts and stops at him
Complaining about the defence of AWB, Casemiro, Maguire and Dalot?! Dear me!
Newcastle back line was Livramento, Krafth (on for inj schar), Burn and Alex Murphy (on for Hall)
It's all about the coaching as a defensive unit. Man Utd are just poorly coached
And where are Newcastle in the league again mate? And are they in a cup final?
@@UnitedStand bro thought he did something theređ€Ł
And Newcastle are below us and out of all cups hahahahah what a moot point.
lol the only time Newcastle should be compared with United is if itâs to show how the biased the British press isâŠa manager who has dealt with a takeover and an incredible amount of injuries is being pushed out the door while Howe sits there without any stressâŠdidnât all the press Newcastle to outperform us this season? So why arenât the press after Howe instead of ETH?
@abdelchowdhury
Because Howe is English and Ten Hag is Dutch. Thatâs the reality. Newcastle are the richest club in the league yet the press are treating Howe like everythingâs OK. Times have changed yet the press have not accepted the fact United are not one of the only top clubs in the league anymore. Thatâs a huge part of the problem. They still treat United like itâs the 90âs and 2000âs in the league. Times have changed a lot and the parity is much greater now than back under Sir Alex.
Marks lack of football knowledge is clear to see. He's a personality, not a Football Analyst. Fans need to understand that Football is all about Data Analytics. Mark often calls Analysts as "Hipsters", but these "Hipsters" are people like Michael Edwards at Liverpool that are using Analytics to recruit effectively for players and managers. The bottom line is that if you recruit badly for players as we have done for many years, you're going to recruit poorly for managers. Managers that show clear patterns of play in and out of possession are more heavily recruited now than managers that have won trophies. Most people hadn't even heard of Arne Slot until Liverpool appointed him, it's called Analytical recruitment, not "the eye test" as Mark prefers to use.
Facts! Well said!
Mate, Mark never labelled himself as a âfootball analyst.
And Ten Haag was Well known back in the Ajax days, so I donât really know why you are trying to call him out for something, that makes no sense what so ever?
đïž Vincent Kompany defends Erik ten Hag: âIâve witnessed some of the best playing teams Iâve ever played against as a manager and that Iâve seen in my whole career. So when his team at Ajax were playing, it was something special. It wasnât something you could attribute to a team of that age because they were really young or the financial resources; it was incredible.
âThey were up there with the best teams Iâve ever seen play. You know most of those teams in recent times have been associated with Pep [Guardiola]. Of course, there were other managers as well. He was one of them, you know for sure.â
âItâs not like we go out for coffees or anything, but I have followed his trajectory, and heâs one of those reference coaches. Thatâs the reality of it. It goes a little bit against the trend right now, but Iâm telling the truth.â
Still remember how happy fans were with his appointment and specially after that first season and Carabao Cup and we overachieved first season syndrome
Saw this and itâs true
Okay mark
Tuchel is in a different class to ten hag.
Does not take a rocket scientist to see ETH is out of his depth
Valid view on our tendency to lose control of the midfield
The jerseys look like closed curtains and the balls like international clocks.
That handshake at the start made me throw up
What?
weirdo you are
Eh ? đ
You keep saying we are good offensively, that is the complete opposite of what I see. We attack with no clue or plan, we have no idea how to break teams down and so many of our goals are individual moments. There are bottom half clubs with a better attacking plan than we do
Have you ever thought that the chances that are falling to the opposition might decrease if we start putting away our chances?
Interesting thoughts on the Casemiro header and how to deal with it.
Alternative for ETH? Why Liverpool can find someone, but you need some top star coach?
Foster is talking rubbish.
A lot of people here obviously didn't see Ferguson's first few years, or Klopp's, or Arteta's, or even Pep's first 2.
There are United players in this squad who are on their SIXTH manager (Rashford), 5th (Mctominay), 4th (Bruno, Lindelof, Maguire)....all these players have been failures for up to a decade!
Despite this, Ten Hag in his second season has got 3rd and CL qualification, silverware (Carabao Cup), 2 FA Cup finals, is the quickest ever United manager to 50 PL wins, and has the highest ever United manager win ratio...but people think he's the problem!?
Ralph Rangnick told us all that "Open Heart Surgery" was needed, and suggested that 13-14 players needed changing. Jose has said that there are still players there that he wanted to get rid of. Ole has intimated about the problems he had with the squad...yet still people think the position today is Ten Hag's fault.
As long as managers are forced to play with the failed players of past managers, this club will continue to fall behind.
Rashford, Bruno, Shaw, Maguire, Mctominay, Dalot, Lindelof, Martial, Bissaka.....ALL have to be shown the exit so that a proper culture and style can be built with players who have intelligence and a strong mentality.
Even Garnacho has started taking on board the toxic nature of these players! He gets substituted after spending 70 mins running up blind alleys ,then scuttles off the social media to "like" posts criticizing his substitution. No Arsenal, Liverpool, or 115 player would feel entitled enough to do that.
Ten Hag, and some of the young players (Mainoo, Kambwala, and Garnacho when he's not being immature) are the only bright spots.
Ben âUnited are terrible bla bla blaâ
Also Ben â If United get top 6 next season its a good seasonâ .. so What is top 6 and a Fa cup then đ
I am fed up listening about Rashford we know he will never change a lazy player and he has got to go.
Desperately looking for Ben to justify his comments on Rashford. .
So you never done that Ben?
We must be consistent in out criticism. We criticized the club that Ragnick was used in the wrong position but we won't criticize the club for using Casemiro in the wrong position. Also I remember when Maguire had dismal seasons scoring own goals and alot of fans were still patient with him. Yet Casemiro does 1 tenth of Maguires mistakes and we want him sold? Please man, we are better than that
27 shots sounds impressive but 90% of the shots are not dangerous at all. They don't make the chances bigger. Onana is the one passing to HĂžjlund the most. Says it all.
Here's an alternative. Amorim.
13:39 actually I am 50 years of age not 16
Bruno is an EXCELLENT support player! Look at him at Portugal...he's NEVER the main man but he can supply the main players and they are good enough to feed him when timing is right but depending on him as your "Odegaard" or "De Bruyne" just doesn't work.....not with this squad.
Alternative: Antonio Conte. Pros: Great track record, proven league winner, disciplinarian, can read a room, etc. Cons: Can get pissy, not the greatest cup/European competition manager.
Conte is overrated honestly you shouldn't take it. He only wins when he has by far the best squad in the league. Wich is not happening with City, Liverpool and Arsenal around. His tactics are outdated and we saw it with Tottenham, just park the bus and long ball tactics.
How can you compare Arsenal to Man UTD sqoud come on Ben wake up.
No back 4 for how long over 64 injuries your talking noncence.
Arsenal are basically top of the PL playing park the bus/set piece football with a world class team.
@@superstarDJ537 playing park the bus football. Are you blind ?
I love how Ben listens to Mark like a friend â€
If management has difficulty funding the purchase of players this summer then try to sell the naming rights to the stadium
You're definitely underestimating what can happen over the summer, top 4 is more than achievable, Ineos haven't come in to make up the numbers...
Poor punditry. Turncoats from 2 years ago. Horrible injuries. So no ability to train properly. Also Greenwood, Sancho, Rashford and Anthony situations. Plus the horrible board for years. Lazy.
Wish Mark would let Ben actually speakđź
Need a new manager and a new team
Good luck with that
â@@nihlify Thank you, we will.
Mark claimed in this video no one has gave him a new manager...I've seen hundreds in live streams give him names and he just shouts them down..he's such a liar at times...plus we ain't head of recruitment or the BOARD...it isn't up to us.....
Not talking about the tweet innit
The majority of the fault is with Onana. Just like the first game of the season, he rushes out with NO control and slaps the player in the face with both hands.
It's as if he closes his eyes and dives in these kinds of situations. He has no control on where he is going and who he is hitting. You can clearly see how far away from the ball he is and he was NEVER anywhere close to getting the ball. Casemiro's mistake could have been dealt with a lot better if Onana only had stayed in his position but once again he panicked.
I think what Onana did was an accumulation of what have been done in his about a year of his carrier on united. There are a lot of things that didnt go his way (even when he was trying to clear the ball like that burnley game, "sometimes i couldnt really believe whatever our defender doing, the ball might be going into the net magically").
i bet Ben has a killer handshake
Ben just said what Ricky has been saying for months. That the defence are not the issues itâs the midfield and the attack. Just shows who has ball knowledge and who doesnât
Twitter is pretty horrid. CZcams comments are pretty tame compared to it.
Ten Hag is delulu
as soon as Antony scored, I knew Burnley will score before full time.. it's almost a certainty
Pure anxiety every time Onana is on the ball he's a huge liability đ
You absolutely have a burner account đ
Just watching the defense for the past year, looks like the GK and the defensive players are not communicating properly
I prefer mark when he interacts with people cause he just disregards chats if he doesnât like them but canât do that here
Ben trying to say it is the system how to defence (which has to come from the coaches), but Mark keep bring it back to the players
We were conceding chances with Varane and Martinez. Donât make excuses about a makeshift defence. Itâs the only constancy we see every week that we concede crazy amount of chances.
That's the difference between a team that plays properly to a team that has individuals that think they are better than the team. Rashford not a team player others as well they need to get rid of them players.
So, if you are a conscientious keeper that has no faith in your defence, wouldn't you try to solve the issue & come for that ball?
Iâll say the defence has no defence in the keeper as well
Onana is responsible for the foul
Casemiro could have send the ball towards the centre
ONANA HAS CONCEDED 51 GOALS AND UTD HAS SCORED 48.
Check again!
Ask Foster about the kick off routine for United :D
Ten Hag has to get the players tactically right where you have the midfield supporting the defenders, But no we are playing too much too open and that's the manager's fault,Defend as a unit and our goalkeeper would not have much to do against the weaker teams
We want to be challenging for the league & Europa league next season not delay tactics like Tuchel or Southgate or Potter or DeZerbi or mismanaging EtH cos we'll be better off with Ole or Outsider like Zidane than EtH cos EtH lacks people skills meaning wrong type of manager to take charge of our club.
The best advice we're prepare to offer is EtH & his team should pack their bags & go back to Ajax to reinvent himself!
Keep it in the family!
No team systems the midfield is non existent and there is a big hole down the middle
Onana needs to have a week off maybe the rest will help for the FA Cup?
Mark mark, that back 4 is only playing together for 3 games, so stop blaming the back 4 for conceeding goals. We have been shit whole season in the back
There is a big divide between criticism and abuse, Mark is a fan during the game and calls someone a wheelbarrow with no wheels, and a lot worse. But so do I when a player misses an open pass, or a defensive mistake. That's football though, Rashford seems to be taking offense to criticism, although granted the toxic social media can be horrible, the United Stand isn't abusive in my opinion
Take a look at my second love: The New York Rangers. They had a superb rebuild and they are on their way to the Stanley Cup.
ETH in đ„ vile players out đ°
Wheely bin without wheels đđ
Split the difference. Top 5, would be great. It will take two years (unless the January transfer is used) to get a team that gets United into top 4.
So what about EDISON in the City Game
Great stiff you two. Can't wait to hear talksport drive team Betty with his love of arsenal and andys love of man utd / chelsea
Oops sorry benty
Fun fact- Bruno is in the top 1% of midfielders in football history with G/A contributions
Thankfully we watch football with our eyes, specialist at statpadding vs relegation fodder, horrendous footballer with no athleticism.
â@@randperson7692No athleticism đđđ. The chap covers more ground than any player in our squad every game. Stat padding against the worst teams in the league is also a lie. Just an all round awful comment.
congratulations he stinks can't carry the ball can't dribble
What a load of shite. History of football? ??
@@SuperHarald93 Yeah let's just forget about all the goals, assists, and his tireless running for the team. But yeah he isn't a great dribbler so therefore he stinksđ€Šââïžđ€Šââïžđ€Šââïžđ€Šââïžđ€Šââïž
Ben Foster, during your time as a goalkeeper u didn't do all those things you are saying about the header and the reaction of Onana. You were a big mess, considering goals that were preposterous and very shameful and disgraceful
He wasnât near as bad as onana thatâs for sure
i am just wondering ,if everyone's going on about style of play and the position in the league how is it getting 6th be a good season for the next season yet we want to sack the manager now for all the issues we have this season and we in and around 6th
Foster is spot on that you can't defend/park the bus when only 8 players are willing to sacrifice for the team. All 11 need to do that!
No structure to what they are doing ? Is Foster serious ? With that back four ? With those penalty decisions?
Ten hag say at old Trafford mark mate
whats the "injury crisis" myth? shaw lisandro and martial, thats literally it
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Would not mind if We Got one more keeper to compete for The 1 spot. Onana have not been good overall this season. How bad is bayindir? Incredible He has not gotten a run of games.
It's worrying to me that we keep conceding the same type of goal over and over again. The pull back to the edge of the area when we have numbers back. A competent coach would have drilled the players long since to prevent it.
If KLOPP wants you to make real history, yes he has made some but a real impact which will be spoken for decades and which will overshadow City is to join Man Utd as manager and win trophies đ
We have injurys yes, but why is there still no style of play, even forest yday being 4th bottom have a plan, really hard work, no space when when the opposition is within 40yards of their goal and then fast direct counters, if they had a finisher they would have won yday, we just pass pass pass with no sense of direction, surely there's some players are behind eth still yet we have seen no evolution of play in nearly 2 years, either eth sells 10-11 1st team.squad players or he should just go
Every season we want the season to end so we can sign the right players and see the back of the players who aren't good enough "next season will be better". Then the next season comes around and loads of the deadwood players are still here.
When bem said ten haag has no game plan i thought mark was gonna stomp out with the monk on what is this guys obsession and loyalty with ten haag the blokes out of his depth useless and if he has another season we'll be playing championship football the following season
I've been saying it for two years it has to be roy keane as Manchester united manager ...it ain't hard they need think about the club not about how roy keane fell out with fergi .....get roy keane in ASAP before the pre season...
I don't think Roy Keane's fall out with Sir Alex is the reason for him not getting the United manager job mate đđ
@@YT_J what do u think then m8