Shin Megami Tensei III Nocturne | REVIEW (Nintendo Switch)
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- Woo ya girls first Shin Megami Tensei game!! This was a wild ride and I wasn't entirely sure what to expect other than demons. These are my thoughts on Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne! I hope you enjoy!! :)
Reawaken your inner demon in a modernized version of the acclaimed ATLUS classic, Shin Megami Tensei III Nocturne HD Remaster. What begins as a normal day in Tokyo turns out to be everything but, when the Conception - an ethereal apocalypse - is invoked. The remains of the world is swallowed by chaos, as a demonic revolution descends into a broken city. Caught between a battle of Gods and demons the choices you make can bring life, rebirth, or death, and determine who triumphs.
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I assume you used a guide on your 1st playthrough on easy. ... else you would have noted more of the controller throwing moments...
but fair review overall.
@@zarthemad8386 didn't use a guide but I had a friends tip me off to buffs.
Also I played on normal.
The SMT spinoff that came immediately after Nocturne, Digital Devil Saga is more in line with what you would love. A bit more QoL, Way more character focus and all the same dungeon design and atmosphere.
Yeah, DDS's story and overall structure are definitely more friendly towards series newcomers too. Shame the tradeoff is the lack of demon fusion, though Mantras do scratch that "customize your party to your liking to an absurd degree" itch.
With better music. You'd think Nocturne had wild music till you hear DDS 1 & 2...
The problem is that, like every Nintendo handled JRPG , it's DISGUSTINGLY EXPENSIVE. Like, 300 euro/$ expensive. On top of that, 3ds is region locked so I'd need the PAL version only. Seriously, it's getting ridiculous. I wanted Radian History : Perfect Chronology, but you literally cannot find it for less than 150/200€ if you're lucky. Pure madness. The only really expensive ones i have are Chrono Trigger and Dragon Quest V: the Heavenly Bride, bought them NEW SEALED, PAL, and both in "bundle" for """just""" 130 eu (not bad considering they sell for more than that EACH, for used versions nonetheless)
@@S_F_S I think you're confusing Devil Survivor for Digital Devil
Saga. Digital Devil Saga was on PS2. It was a duology that came out right after nocturne.
@@evilblanketfish I was indeed confusing them, but after a quick search on Vinted, I can confirm that both Digital Devil Saga 1 and 2 for PS2 PAL still cost A LOT, like around 150 euros for the both of them.... so the fact remains: every ATLUS game is overpriced as fuuuuuck (especially the PAL version)
Totally agree, both Nocturne and V didn’t have stories that appealed to me but it somehow didn’t matter - the gameplay, music and overall tone are so intoxicating I just couldn’t put them down. That said, IV is my favourite so I would definitely recommend you get on that.
I cannot express how badly I wanna play smt 4 and Apoc
@@PelvicGaming add Digital Devil saga to that list(it’s the best one).
@@PelvicGaming You better run and acquire both before it's too late. 3DS eShop is dying in the near future and with it, all the additional content for both and more. Including one of the biggest pieces of Fanservice the seires has ever received: Messiah in the Diamond Realm.
@@PelvicGaming SMT4 is amazing, I went in blind and the story and setting kind of blew me away. If you dont want to play on the 240p screen of the 3ds you can play on the citra emulator and there is a hd pack for the game.
@@TheAshholeBoy also im a physical or bust kinda girl
Nocturne's best character is the world itself. The individual people do represent different ideologies but in 2004 when I was 17 this was the first game to I introduce those ideologies to me and asked me to think about the world differently than I had ever been before. But what does change and grow and make you empathize with it throughout the game is the world itself. The world state changes a lot and you keep playing because you want to see what happens to it, rather any individual person.
Maybe it's just inherited from the game's PS2 lineage, but I really appreciate the colossal font size; makes it a lot more comfortable to read. I really hate when modern games still use the same old 12pt font size, which is super freaking tiny at 4k resolution.
At 54 I also love the LARGER text.
Same
I also prefer a very character driven game, but SMTs are a exception to that rule. I absolutely love the atmosphere and how the world itself and its moral conflicts gets to you.
I also agree on the difficulty aspect, people say as if it's a turn based "Souls Like", but in reality you just have to get smart about elements.
You should definitely check SMTIV, I'm obsessed with everything about that game. The OST is my favourite part, being second only to how the story choices made me rethink how I position myself in society.
Lastly, girl, I'm living for this SMT makeup you got going on here. Slaaaaaaaay that shit hunty
Honestly, to answer your question, in some ways, Nocturne fits the bill. Like you, I am very character-focused, but also, I often find very bleak things tedious and dull, since some people really seem to confuse hope with poor writing and go far too hard in the other direction. Nocturne evades those pitfalls and there's this feeling of anticipation in the air despite the cruel circumstances, a new world waiting to be born. Atmosphere in this game, like you say, is so strong.
woke up at 3am with a fever, found your channel and watched all your megaten reviews lol love them
Nocturne was my first SMT title ever. I discovered it through a Kingdom Hearts forum in a “make your own boss” thread. Yes, someone made a Demi-Fiend and Lucifer fight lol. This was a game that took forever to find. Now you can find it anywhere. Totally kicked my ass cuz I had no idea what was going on.
I’m sure when I replay this, I’ll do much better. Thank you again for your review. Awesome as always.
Your Kaneko lipstick is amazing! 🔥
Yeah, the mainline SMT series isn't so much about the characters, it's more about the ideas that presented, and making you, as a player, consider your own thoughts and philosophies. The endings aren't really 'good', like wtih the characters it's moreso "what is the implication of what I have chosen", if that makes sense.
I agree in that I typically prefer games with strong characters and stories, but having a series that can be more philosophical (I guess that's the right word? idk what else to call SMT's approach) can be a nice change of pace.
I like how she styled her lipstick like a fucking SMT character. Dedication.
The real reason why people found this hard back in the day was due to a multitude of factors. Many people who play JRPGs didn't play any difficult ones previously. As much as I love Final Fantasy, the gameplay of them really did major damage to people who play JRPGs. Final Fantasy wrongly told people that buffs and debuffs were worthless. And this being the first game that used the press turn and many people's first Megaten game made it harder. We all know now not to use bufu on Jack Frost.
Also side note...debuffs do work on many bosses in Final Fantasy you just need the blue mage and the chemist...but seeing how lazy Final Fantasy fans can be with tactics....
I really love the battle system. Honestly, I think part of why this game has a reputation for being difficult is that if you sometimes, people can build themselves or team in a way that is totally not able to handle an opponent, like I remember being frustrated with one that reflected physical attacks when I had a very high attack team, but it's also relatively easy to just restructure your team, etc, to handle that.
go in blind without a guide... for the real experience
The game has a reputation for being hard because knowledge is power. Bosses WILL kill you if you don't know their gimmicks. Did you know Fog Breath is ridiculously broken? If not, be prepared for a playthrough of pain. Willing to spend a lot of time in the Cathedral jotting down notes to eventually fuse Fiends? Your patience is rewarded with utterly overpowered party members
Your final opinion reflects mine so hard when I first played nocturne. Like there where clear issues but I was obsessed and then I played the rest of the franchise and each one had issues of there own but I was obsessed with all of them and now I think back on nocturne extremely fondly and want more. Hope you have fun with the rest of the series!
This is one of my favorite games ever, but I can't help but agree about the endings lol. I already knew you didn't mess around, but you completely killed this review. I can tell you go through games with a fine tooth comb
You would absolutely LOVE SMT4, so prepare yourself. It's everything incredible about Nocturne combined with some of the Persona vibes that you've expressed are important to you, such as good characters and character growth. I'm excited to see what you have to say about that one.
Teen me just remembers Dante and spooky scary skeletons. Shadow's playthrough on hard was hilarious especially with mot though haha.
When it comes to the older stuff I feel it comes down to how good your luck and RNG is.
Always enjoyed the fiend theme it's like your meeting up for a street fight.
Dude his fight with Mot was RIDICULOUS. And yeah ngl RNG plays a huge factor but I think I got lucky for the most part. That isn't to say RNG hasn't screwed me over. If enemies attack first HOLY SHIT it's scary.
@@PelvicGaming Had that happen in digital devil saga. Minor enemy petrified us all first go after all that grinding...in front of a save spot
So glad you enjoyed it!!! And if you loved Shiva, you will love him in SMT5. And the music in that game is phenomenal.
the smt makeup got me falling in love lol. awesome video!
I recently discovered your channel thanks to ProJared's recommedation! I have to say your content is absolutely amazing and I will be spending this next couple of weeks binging and catching up on all your content! Keep up the great work! you're absolutely amazing!
my first SMT was the somewhat recently released SMT5. I enjoyed it sooooo much I went out and bought SMT3 Nocturne (Switch), SMT4 on 3DS (digital copy), SMT Digital Devil Saga 1 and 2 (PS2), now just need the time to do a deeper dive on these games. Luved SMT5
Holy moly! You. Are. IN IT.
@@PelvicGaming SMT5 had an impact on me, but the criticisms you have of Nocturne in lack of interesting characters or story apply to SMT5 too, yet I still luved it! Its combat is just soooo addictive and fun. And exploring its world was a lot of fun too.
@@hepwo91222 Next, you should play Persona 2 (both Innocent Sin and Eternal Punishment). You can skip the rest 😛 jk
Glad you enjoyed it! I think you’d really enjoy SMT Digital Devil Saga 1+2 as well. Very character driven
Miscellaneous note: I love your vocal delivery. Listening to you talk is more fun than average for this kinda thing.
Wowie, thank you!! :) I appreciate that!
Really enjoyed your insights, looking forward to watching your other videos on games I also like (Valkyria Chronicles, for example)!
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Thank you!! :)
Nice Review, Can't wait to see more Megaten Reviews in the future if it happens.
Thank you!! I am pumped to play more SMT!
Glad to see a new SMT fan to the team. Nocturne is a decent place to start with especially with the modern rerelease. If I could make a recommendation for your next SMT game I'd highly recommend Strange Journey Redux, it has a great story, amazing setting, great characters, hard demons to fight and a killer OST. Though yes 4 and 4 Apocalypse are perfectly fine choices too. I would recommend Soul Hackers to get ready for Soul Hackers 2 later this year but take it from a long time SMT and Persona fan, that game has major growing pains so make of that what you will.
I love SMT and watching this review made me very happy. You totally get this game. You nailed this review. Both the positives and negatives you mentioned about the game, I completely agree with your reasoning. I hope you enjoy any future games in the series you play!
Ayyy! Thank you so much for the kind words! And I absolutely want to sink my teeth into SMT 4 and 4 Apoc!! I'm on the hunt for a physical copy!
When i discovered nocturne at the time on the ps2 it fastly elevated to one of my favorite game on the console. The game was so unique and i never played anything like that before. That made me such a smt die hard fan since.
I played this on ps2 I liked this review and love your hair and Nocturne is better left in the past I feel
This was a joy to watch. Love your no bullshit approach to reviews. I bought Nocturne physically for $20 brand new and it’s been in the backlog for a few months unopened. Never played any SMT or spin offs ever. I’m playing Earth Bound for the 1st time currently which has me thinking I might not really hate turn based combat after all. You make me think I might actually like this game. However I just bought the new Kirby, so it won’t be anytime soon. Ha
Thank you so much! And dang what a steal! Nocturne isn't for everybody but I've come to enjoy it! ALSO LOVE THAT YOU'RE LOVING EARTHBOUND!!!
And Kirby is fantastic as well! I plan on beating the game tomorrow!!
The heccccck?! One of my fav channels (which I'm subbed to) posts a video about one of my fav game franchises and I'm not informed until 7 days later? That's a crime.
I own it on the ps4 and the review made me excited to play it! And yes, SMT 4 has an amazing story and world, and the characters are cool imo (and amazingly voice acted). The gameplay however... you'll find out yourself...
I'm 20 hours into this game for the past couple of months on the PS2 version and it's been an ordeal. Demon recruitment is so fruitless and time consuming, and yet I feel like I have to do it since summoning old demons from the compendium would cost all of my money that I need for healing and reviving. SMT players claim these games aren't grindy, but since money is so tight and level determines what party you can have in the first place I often wonder if we're talking about the same game. Every single guide I consulted on the first challenging boss fight recommended at bare minimum a demon that was level 18 while I was level 11. Grinding is the only way I could have gotten this far.
Ok I'll give you that. Demon recruitment is so scares and nearly fruitless it's easy to get frustrated. I spent nearly an hour trying to get a that red fairy girl in Shibuya. Just because I liked her so much. Money -for me- was only an issue at the beginning of the game and the very end since I needed to fuse my super high end demons to make even HIGHER demons. While level does determined how strong your party is, I found I was usually around the level needed for w/e demon was best for the area I was in.
That said, again I really do understand how this game isn't for everyone.
About your question, a game I enjoyed that I didn't expect was Bloodborne, I used to hate "hard" games, specially if they were reflex based but man, now they're my favorite franchise probably.
This is a very nice and comprehensive review!
Glad you liked it! Thank you!
While I never actually hated it, I'll admit I was really negative towards *The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild* at first. This is in large part because I was getting kinda sick of open-world games to begin with, and I was so annoyed that nobody seemed to care that the game had a lot of flaws and poor design choices. However, upon getting into it, I really can't deny how fantastic and fun the game actually was, and now I'd say it might even be in my top 3 games of the entire franchise.
I've basically only played A Link to The Past but I loved it top to bottom. Breath of The Wild is an entirely different beast but it makes a case for itself. I think item degradation really did a lot of the heavy lifting in terms of keeping the gameplay engaging.
Another great review. I definitely agree with most of your points and counterpoints ….I just personally couldn’t get into this game. The characters and flow of the game just killed it for me. Can’t wait for your next game review
Just wanna say the Kaneko black upper lip is a hilarious touch lol. Enjoy the channel.
Haha thank you!
Cool review. I'm an avid monster hunter player, but before world came out, i used to think i'd hate it as i could never get into them on the 3ds with the controls, plus having gotten into undertale and deltarune, there was a brief time where i was getting tired of the kill and grind all monsters for exp mechanics that's basically a staple of the genre
Always a fan of that Pelvic Drip.
I really do wanna try SMT3. Great review. ^_^
Good review!
To answer your question, I didn't think I would like SMT: Digital Devil Saga. I remember seeing the review on X-Play and it just didn't appeal to me. How wrong I was...
DDS is by far my favorite SMT game, which is strange, since in a game series all about on demon summoning and fusion, my favorite game is the one without any summoning or fusion. 🤔
Highly recommended. Much more character driven and you really get to develop their abilities and roles. I think you'd really enjoy it. Argilla is so great. Her sniper rifle is essential!
I have both 1&2 downloaded on my PS3, and you can still do so for a short time, or you can get a physical copy for PS2 without spending too much.
I look forward to your review!
I would also highly recommend playing Shin Megami Tensei 4 for the 3DS. It has a similarly awesome soundtrack, an even more refined version of the press turn system, but also has substantially more memorable characters.
No need to tell me twice. It's already on the list. I'm hoping it will be the next SMT game I play!
The game has a reputation for being hard because knowledge is power. Back in 2003 we didn't have this knowledge. But decades later with all the Persona games under your belt? You got everything you need to get a foot in the door, and from there you can work with the rest of the game's clues.
For me a game I didn't think I'd like based was Amnesia the Dark Descent recently. As a big fan of survival horror games I like ones that have combat and am not a fan of ones that don't have combat, but Amnesia really immersed me in its story and atmosphere. Love that game!
Excellent review.
I understand the feeling of "Originally not thinking you'd enjoy a game because it doesn't fall in line with your tastes but still eventually falling in love with it". It's like me with the Dark Souls games because I am a very heavily narrative focused person but the narrative in souls games is rather lacking unless you heavy search for it, yet I still find myself absolutely diving head first into the games and never regretting my time spent with them.
I highly recommend SMTIV and IV Apocalypse since you enjoy more character focused stories as well as, if you don't mind old fashioned style 1st person dungeon crawler games, SMT Strange Journey Redux as it shares many horror styled themes with Nocturne while giving more focus to characters and narrative as a whole.
may the great will bless you thoroughly, Manikin enjoyer. people don't talk about my bro Sakahagi enough
YO SAKAHAGI IS MY MAN
I normally don’t play these complex jrpg games but I kind of got into SMT V recently you should give that one a try as well.
I was like that with persona I’m normally a FPS guy but when u got a switch this game was on my list
Grest review and awesome game.
The diffculity stems from bosdes spamming buffs abd debuffs plus in normal battles instant death attacks as save points in ps2 version were few and far between
While bosses buffed themselves you could buff yourself to high heaven too! Sukukaja is GOD TIER. It sucks when they remove your buffs - true. But ya gotta get 'em back! And you can take away theirs. Also insta death attacks... occasionally hit my party but thankfully never me. If you have horrible RNG luck and get insta killed when you're deep in a dungeon THEN I feel for ya. And I do agree about save points being few and far. Idk if they changed it in the HD remaster but it still felt that way.
@@PelvicGaming all good points.
You mentioned in your review about softsave. Was there a save state option or something?
Mind you in ps2 version and hd you can get skills to protect against instadeath.
But having fusion skills randomly picked was a pain havibg to reroll
Mind you hd version has easy mode too
Loved your Kaneko lips!
After playing SMTV it is hard to go back to SMT3. Still have a lot of nostalgia for the game but SMTV just plays so buttery smooth.
The Kaneko lips are a nice touch
Thanks for the vid
Thank you for watching!!
I am really glad you liked this game. It's one of my favorites, to be sure.
Great review Lady Pelvic
To answer your question: yes, I have - that game being Minecraft :3
Between the lipstick, makeup, and hair, you look like an SMT character. Good work!
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Curious to know your opinion of 4, and 5.
A game that i love regardless of it's many flaws? Probably the Dot Hack series, and person 3. Sometimes design, themes, and settings is enough to make you fall in love with a game.
I WANNA PLAY FOUR SO BADLY. Im just a physical girl and its rather priceyyyy...but my smt pals sing fours praises!! I wanna play 4 and apocalypse!
Glad you liked the game and liked that even the bits of negative criticisms were well articulated as always. Also that goth look works on you.
Huge agree on your opinion of the characters. It honestly bothers me how many people use notcurne as an example for a good narrative when in reality it's just a really good premise with a bunch of random shit put together to explore its "deep themes". I love the game but I'd never play it again because of how long everything takes and I think the wonder of exploring would just be gone on a repeat playthrough. It's honestly the same with SMT strange journey if you ever get to that one. The only SMT with really good characters that I'd recommend (other than persona) is the first devil survivor. That one's amazing.
I became a fan of Atlus after playing some Persona games. Was surprised to know that SMT was the main series...as a fan I copped SMT 3 Nocturne and SMT V and am currently enjoying SMT V. Ill eventually play Nocturne but any games coming out of the Atlus camp are on my radar...even the recently announced Soul Hackers 2 looks dope.
The more I hear about Soul Hackers the more my interests peaks BUT...I think I'd wanna play the first one before I dabble in sequels.
@@PelvicGaming true...the thing that sucks is that a lot Atlus games are locked onto old hardware or handhelds.
Haha, agree about the endings, but I think the one With everything back to normal was the best, and yeah, I spend hours trying to complete the compedium.
I didn't even try to complete the compendium but I was addicting to demon fusing. I think I did a much better job at competition in SMT 4!
I'm glad you made it through the game and enjoyed it even if it had some less than stellar aspects. Not sure if I want to play this but it has my interest as a maybe sometime in the future kind of game 👀 for now I'm content with playing through SMT IV, which we only got digitally in Europe, and then I have SMT V in my backlog. I heard it's more similar to Nocturne than IV so not sure how that bodes, but I'm hoping it has some QoL improvements at least! IV is really good and eventually I look forward to Apocalypse too, probably also digitally since it's more convenient for me. I'm trying to fill up my 3DS SD card with games before it's too late :')
for a game I thought I would hate... maybe Bloodborne? I liked the aesthetic of it but I knew it was risky because I'm usually such a lazy gamer. it was horrible in the beginning and I really regretted my purchase, then I finally found my way to a boss and didn't struggle too much with it, and something clicked and now it's one of my favourite games although I only played through it once. I could only do a little bit at a time because I got so scared lol.
Shin Megami Tensei IV is that game I felt really unsure about liking, but ended up falling in love with! Can't recommend it enough, I think you would really enjoy it, the world building is incredible and I still think about it. Just try IV before Apocalypse.
I shall play four before I play Apoc! Don't ya worry! (Assuming I can get a physical copy!)
This is easily one of my favorite games, let alone JRPGs, of all time. The only JRPG I'm confident I like more is Mother 3. I definitely understand wanting more out of the characters, but idk in this story it just doesn't bother me. I enjoy the combat and exploration in this game too much to be bothered by any of the story decisions.
Just finished [1 route of] SMT 5 this week and wow idk if this is a spoiler, character wise it seems it's similar if not worse. This makes me think it was a design decision to undercook the characters and themes and not that they ran out of time/ refused to delay it. I don't think this series is for me knowing how much better 5 could've been and based on this review. Great music though!
Yeahhh that's kinda why I don't wanna play 5. Despite me liking Nocturne I rather some good ass characters. And apparently four has that!
That said, I'm glad you at least gave SMT a fair chance!! Thanks for watching!
I don't think the charactars sucks in this game. But they give you little info about them and what they think in different moments of the story. That's why you must pay real attention when they appear. Short and criptic scinematics. "You are alone and we do not wanna make it easy, even knowing the characters".
Well this is better than Erick Landon rpg. I'll sub here, look foward to more.
Also thank you for emphasizing the importance of learning the game because you're supposed to feel frustrated like you're in hell. Erick Landon RPG quit for over a decade because he couldn't beat an early boss and only played again when Merciful mode came out
Love the lipstick
Pandora's Tower. It started slow and kinda repetitive, but then it elevated to greatness.
Nocturne is a nuanced game. You have to speak with every NPC to get the most out of it.
It’s also more about the gameplay/narrative. The story is to be taken as a whole, rather than bit by bit. Persona is at the opposite of the spectrum
Can't really fault SMT Nocturne here since it's always been about who gets to shape the world. It was my 1st SMT experience that drug my in to ATLUS' universe of games, so I can't help but stan-by. It wasn't until the Persona series when they really finessed the formula for so much more beyond the basics, so can't blame those working backwards. All the same, anyone that truly presses deeper will always find that it offers so much more.
tbf, I didn't know WHAT to expect. Like I knew NOTHING about SMT only Persona. So this was very jarring for me to experience. That said, I still came out with a positive outlook!
@@PelvicGaming And a great many props to you. Nocturne's not for the faint of heart for those digging into the crates of SMT's time consuming nostalgia. Many would turn up their noses & be happily content with Atlus' more current offerings. Then again, that's why we stay tuned for your well informed content drops that always seem to keep evenly keeled.
Put over 100hrs on this game for PS2. Obsessed.
One of the best JRPGs ever made. SMT4 too.
Was hoping for more gushing over hot demons but still a great watch
Got a Nintendo switch coming tomorrow I really hope I like it! Is it a good console?
Really appreciated your thoughts on this game.
As a fan of the game I agree with the points you've shared. The supporting characters are lacking when it comes to the narrtive. This game definitely doesn't hit the same for everyone.
Thanks for the insight as always & looking forward to your next video. 🙏🏾
I'm actually playing smt 3 for the first time
If you liked this game i think SMT5 is also pretty similar (both good and bad) with a few differences. Demon negotiation is more consistent, with more entertaining/personalized interactions that actually connect with it's lore. The combat system is also built upon, with elements from the 4 duology and some of its own. There is more of an emphasis on exploration similar to a Xenoblade game, and thus traveling is much more forgiving than other entries, mostly foregoing a dungeon crawling type experience. Other than that, they're pretty similar gameplay and storywise, though I will say personally I found the endings of 5 to be a bit more thought provoking when compared with eachother.
Digital Devil Saga, Devil Survivor and Strange Journey have amazing characters, as does IV.
IV apocalypse tries to be more character driven but they're ultimately quite badly written sadly. Still a great game!
V has a very disappointing story at least in the beginning of the game but you'll find yourself sucked in by the same elements Nocturne threw at you, with a great emphasis on seamless, fun and rewarding exploration. Demons and your interactions with them are better and funnier than ever, they're what makes the world feel lived-in.
So glad to see your takes on SMT! I'll be looking forward to your next videos!
Digital Devil Saga 1+2 are the absolute best smt games imo. Story is so good.
Girl your 🐈 on 🔥. ❤️
There's some things that I think you've forgot to mention in the video.
The base game for the Switch and PS4 versions is the japanese only Maniax Chronicles edition which replaces Dante with Raidou and that for those who want Dante instead will have to pay for the Maniax DLC. The PC version of Nocturne HD has vanilla/og Nocturne as the base game which means no Raidou nor Dante and none of the extra stuff from the two other versions. Maniax Chronicles (Raidou) is free DLC on PC and Maniax (Dante) is paid DLC on PC.
Also, doing a magic build for the MC is not ideal because the magic stat sucks in Nocturne that is why the strength build is a much better option and fitting because the Demi-Fiend's unique skills are strength based.
I read about that but decided not to add it into the vid. I'm trying to keep my vids short.
And yeah I learned that the hard way. I had to pass up a LOT of the MCs unique skills because they were physical. Then again, since I got the final magatama I probably could have made use of the physical skills haha. Ah well, ya live and learn. It's still do-able!
@@PelvicGaming Mhm. Good thing buffs and debuffs are very helpful. There's also the passive Might skill which help for criticals, depending on if the moon's full or a new moon
relaxing and fun
The characters in SMT4 are more fleshed out, but the new demon art isn't done by Kaneko and ranges from good to awful. However, the amount of QOL features added from 4 onward is really nice.
All I know, is whoever designed the four arch angels this time around did an AMAZING job. Also I look forward to the quality of life goodness!
@@PelvicGaming Kaneko did all the demon art for Megaten until SMT4.
@@NerevarineKing sorry I meant their design in smt 4!
@@PelvicGaming That would be Masayuki Doi, who was also responsible for all of the artwork and character designs for SMTV.
It's really vindicating to hear someone else say that this game wasn't that hard; I haven't played this in almost 20 years, but I remember having trouble on exactly 3 bosses throughout the game, and had I been more thorough in my demon collection, that would've been only 2. As for the characters, the only thing I remember about any of them is how out-of nowhere their sudden obsessions with their ideologies came from, but I'll gladly sacrifice characters for an incredible world to explore, and this absolutely delivers; it did also help to reinforce the sense of isolation and desolation of the world, and to make you choose your ideology based on the actual ideology, because it's not like you were going to do it out of attachment to the characters that stand behind them, and even the endings suck if you don't care about the ideology behind them. I also loved the demon fusion and spent countless hours with it; as a mythology buff - once upon a time, I even wrote a demonic compendium of over 400 entries for a Shin Megami Tensei fangame that never got off the ground - I was really impressed that they did their homework with the little synopses for each of the demons. Totally agree on the music, and the developers did, too; that's why the original PS2 version (at least the one we got in North America) had a CD soundtrack that had... I think it was over 30 tracks on it. Really glad you enjoyed this one!
I played this when i was a kid, but this was way too hard, but i loved the atmosphere and the style, maybe i will give it another try 😅
Oh its not easy but if you've been playing for jrpgs for a while then its not hard either. Its just not a push over.
@@PelvicGaming besides the persona games not much but i will just give it a shot
SMT4 will definitely be more your taste. It's still hard (apocalypse less so), but the characters do pop more.
Digital Devil Saga, the games that came after Nocturne, has the same things that made Nocturne wonderful but with a stronger cast.
Nocturne isn't really that hard once you figure out how it works. These days, you can't button mash your way through any RPG, so its difficulty falls in line with most games today
My favorite SMT is probably SMT2. That game's atmosphere appealed to me the most
Big agree on this one, it’s hard to recommend this game or not for its polarizing aspects
I love taking down a foe that is notoriously known as a beast to the other demons, but I hate the long drawn out dungeons.
I love the character designs, but I couldn’t care less for their development and endings.
It’s a game that I chose not to finish despite the fun I was having :((
Also (SPOILERS) I think the idea of a giant disco ball for a final boss is pretty rad xD (END SPOILER)
I have a hard time wanting to continue with SMT4, but I’d like to, since it’s there in my library 👀
I feel you on the dungeons HARD. They were soul sucking at times. b u t the atmosphere was soo good tho!!
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The disco balls boss theme was fireeee.
I got this in the PS3 Store, it's a grind fest, but I still like it.
Play DDS 1&2 for sure
If you want an SMT game with really good characters play SMT 4 for the 3ds. It has 10 years in the market and people still talk a lot about the characters.
Smt 4 is one of the best games I played in my life
I'm telling ya I wanna play 4. And apoc so bad
pls try SMT: Strange Journey
I need to finish this game I thought it was rather difficult.
Are you using buffs? Buffs are key. I HIGHLY recommend always having sukukaja. You just can't go wrong. (there are two others that weaken two stats in one move...@.@;;) Debilitate you can get later and is AMAZING.
Pure gameplay innit
more or less...yeah. hahaha
I think of all Mainline games 4 and Strange Journey have the best characters. But if you really wanna play a great character driven Megaten, you should definetly give Devil Survivor a try. The first Boss is absolute ass, but everything else is gold. And with Soul Hackers 2 on the Horizon, Soul Hackers is not only super cheap, but really, really good.
Tbf i wouldn't play smt on normal now with the remaster that removes part of the tedious macca grind
If you like nocturne you must play IV on the DS. It's a masterpiece.
I want too! I just need to get my hands on a physical copy!
@@PelvicGaming I think it is still available for download at e-shop for 20 bucks.