Cartesian IS BACK! Look out for these god rolls!
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- čas přidán 30. 07. 2024
- 0:00 - Cartesian Coordinate at Gunsmith
0:34 - Cartesian Coordinate STATS
1:47 - Cartesian Coordinate PERKS
3:25 - Cartesian Coordinate PvP GOD ROLL
4:22 - Cartesian Coordinate PvE GOD ROLL
Cartesian is back, and it's only a matter of time before we get the true god roll. I'm thankful for this one though, because in all my time in #destiny2 I never had one drop. Come on Gunsmith! You can do it.
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not only is cartesian in banshee's loot pool this season, but there's a 1-in-4 chance of a roll coming up every day. each day he picks one of four fusions: aurvandil, cartesian, iota draconis, timelines vertex. (i made a reddit post with an analysis of the first 52 days of the season but i think youtube comments don't like it if you include links.)
Yo this is amazing! Thank you for sharing that info. I’m going to look up that post and talk about it / credit you. Great work!
Good to know.
What's ur reddit username
Which subreddit and when? DTG? I couldn't find it
@@life-destiny1196 yeah DTG, look at u/deangaudet i pinned the post
@1:23 i love how he thought he was just going to slide in and crouch macro spam like every other smg bot
The most satisfying shots 😄
Thank you for the heads up on this roll
I knew you’d be posting a vid on this when I saw the roll last night!! GG, dude! 😂
Had to! I was going to anyways, but this just expedited me talking about it
Glad I picked it up yesterday! I’ll try it out later today
Thank you! I would have missed this. It feels really, really consistent in its range.
4:09 omg. that guy shows up somehow not seeing you long enough to finish a reload, just to end up being mauled down by a glaive guy he didnt know was chasing hIm 😂
Thanks for the heads up. I just went and picked it up. Pretty damn good and rare roll plus I like particle for the Xtra stability.
Yeah! Enjoy! I know I will finally having this after all these years!
@@Legoleflash I know right! 😂
Banshee has sold at least 3 worth picking up since season began iirc, including the pve roll. he'll definitely sell another. certified banger
You can just hear the excitement when talking about this fusion haha.
Can’t wait to use this one!
Been rocking null composure since the tier list video so I’m excited to potentially upgrade on that
Yeah! I will say, I do love Null. I almost mentioned it in here because it got such an upgrade that I think it puts up a better fight against Cartesian than I expected. With a 5/5 god roll Cartesian you'll best Null, but Null is amazing.
@@Legoleflash Been testing it out and it does barely come out ahead. I will say, with almost double aim assist I can actually feel the difference!
I think Cartesian will be my go-to from now on with the 5/5, but if I ended up missing this roll, I would’ve been good with the null.
So if anyone is reading this after it leaves Banshee, don’t sweat it! You’ll be able to perform just as well and null is a permanent pickup from the exotic kiosk
I got the pve god roll cart from banshee back in season of the lost, been wanting a pvp roll ever since
THANK YOU FOR YOUR VIDEO - I've been buried in Helldivers 2 and this popped up on my feed so i logged in immediately to grab this bad boy.
What would the ideal mod be for the version banshee sold?
i have an almost an identical roll but mine also has the option of liquid coils \particel repeater (but a cringe reload MW)is liquid coils worth keeping or should i trade mine in for the charge time one (my vaults too stuffed to keep both)
How does it compare to the main ingredient? I like both for PVP one being sokar and the other arc, but is one more consistent over the other? Stats or just gun play feeling
Hey that’s a wicked roll to look for especially with charge time masterwork ❤
Now I have 2! :D But the new one is better.
My old one has liquid coils with a red dot. 2 & handling MW.
Does liquid coils & H-IR stack?
I try my best to check on Banshee-44's weapons daily and I didn't see this one on that day...I would have picked it up without hesitation! It's basically the roll I'm looking for on all fusions that have that combo available (even with the nerf to the under pressure perk). I would maybe look for moving target to replace under pressure these days but I've already been building up my vault with fusions for years with the under pressure combo in mind. My EDC Dream Breaker & Main Ingredient both have that combo and I'd be upset if I deleted them by accident.
Headsnup you want the jolt scope for older fusions if you can find it
Just picked it up in the nick of time!! Right before daily reset. Thanks for the video, brachacho!!❤
Yeah, I'm glad I got up at a decent time this morning. Was able to grab it a little less than three hours before reset. Which is good since I had to go out right after.
For future reference, Banshee's reset is not at daily reset. It's at 4:00 pm PST, so as of this comment the gun will still be there for another 6 hours.
@@nefstead Oh, okay, that's great to know then. Thanks!
Why yes, I think I _will_ sign up to receive limited-time fusion rifle news alerts.
Hey I think charge time does reduce impact damage, I masterworked the banshee roll just now, Impact went down from 60 to 50, 1 impact down for each masterwork level
Yo sick new logo zoom!
Hey thank ya! Been working on some new transitions and motion graphic templates, and when this popped up I just transferred what I was working on over. Updated Techeun guide going to be 🔥
I don't even pvp but I picked this roll up because when I DO pvp, it's freakin' cracked
when bungo will remove cheaters then playerbase will drop to 0, should be now better since soystation banned cronos. but i already seen video where they advertise monitor with AI aimbot
This is the way
It never went away smart guy
I'm a fusion rifle fiend myself, and I completely agree with the stats and perks you suggest. Pushing out the range is paramount. I'm an enormous Epicurean fan, but I've revisited Techeun Force and it's still pretty nice.
It's more TTK dependent than anything isn't it though? High impact only work with 2x charge rate. Around precision. Yet meta pvp is only adaptive or rapids. Got all best rolls of the archetypes yet ttk cancels out perfect bolts upon death and there's mostly not enough time to land all bolts within their ttk on me. God rolled precision sometimes. Adaptives usually. High impacts never. Rapids stats are horrible and makes no sense to oneshot like they do at range
I was actually MID Techeun video update when this roll dropped and I decided to rush this out to let people know. I was hoping to spend more time in detail on it, but this is good enough for people to know what to go for I hope.
Great vid ill boot destiny and get it rn❤
Me and a bunch of others were running to the gunsmith in my tower instance and I can’t help but think it was due to you haha. Thanks for the tip!
Haha! That's awesome! Glad to help a few people out. I know not everyone will love it, but it's sort of the closest I've come to the roll I'm looking for.
I have one that's 1 away from your god roll (I have Particle Repeater or Liquid Coils instead of Projection Fuse) and have 10k kills on it. It was the best PVP weapon in the game IMO before the nerf, and is still a contender. I'll pick this one up too just to try it with Accelerated Coils - maybe I'll be a convert.
That's the roll I had 20K on. I deleted for raising $50K for st. Jude though, so can't complain. :)
@@Legoleflash Oh man. Respect!
I missed the pve godroll I saw the psa videos the next day 😭
I have 5000 kills on this exact roll, but I run enhanced battery, because this makes UP and HIR work harder for you, since you start even lower in the mag from a percentage standpoint. I think max range would be better for the accuracy, the extra one meter is good but not really needed on this thing. Gun is crazy.
ah good point, I do that sometimes too. I should have mentioned it. 🤝
@@Legoleflashthank you for you awesome videos! Just wondering, should I use enhanced battery then? And how does this compare to null?
I grabbed it as soon as i got home from work. Couldn't believe what i was seeing.
Always knew the 5/5 I got was a good role. But thanks (lego) for confirming your prefered role was the god roll I managed to acquire. Over 5k kills with it.
WOW. GG! I'm very jealous
I got this immediately when I woke up because I have been waiting for UP/HIR to drop for so long. Unfortunately it felt way worse than my Zealot's roll and honestly I don't actually like the charge time MW on it. Would much prefer the range bump on this roll because to be the 500 charge time just feels right. I will give it some more run but after the first 100 kills this morning I was sadly not loving it like I really hoped I would. Are you running targeting on it or does counterbalance give it anything. I just slapped on targeting without thinking twice so far since it is what I run on my other one that has more range.
Agree with you. As I talk about toward the end of the vid, my god roll would be double range increase and then these perks. I'll def ping everyone when I see it.
I go back and forth between mods, not set on either now days for this one.
Thanks for the heads up! I have almost this same roll with UP/HIR but with Accelerated Coils... Does that increase how many bolts have to be landed? Is the Banshee the better option?
It won’t increase bolts thanks to HIR, you can check the charge time guide here for a chart (link below) so it’s up to you if you want speed or more stability. Personally I’m still looking forward to more range. Guide: czcams.com/video/PT-Hjh00ZYs/video.htmlfeature=shared
@@Legoleflash Ok, thanks! That link seemed to just take me back to this video, but searched and guessing it's this one czcams.com/video/LhWuKks4Zyc/video.htmlsi=WmKjiYGuUOGQh2as Appreciate the info
Thank you I almost forgot to go pick it up
I got you!
Thank u
ive rolled a ton of these and never got UP/HiR either. i freaked ouy when i saw it at banshee last night.
is counterbalance the way to go here?
i already racked up like 60-70 kills on this thing since i got it. i love it. def gonna keep an eye out for the range mw version tho
wow that's awesome! I used to run counterbalance, but lately targeting. It's a toss up for me. Both great.
I have nearly 100k kills on fusions alone, Loop has been my favorite and I've never had a Cartesian or Zealots. After all your videos I finally got to try it and wow. It doesn't have the range of loop but the consistency at close range is magical.
Have you tried Scatter Signal yet? I think if you're used to Iterative Range you're going to love that one.
@@Legoleflash I haven't tried that either, I'll definitely give that a go next.
I got a similar roll from banshee a few weeks back, but it didn’t click with me on MnK. Gonna stick with Zealot
Hey I get it. The right Zealots flies.
Picked this up last night and have had a lot of fun with it. Knew it was a good one after watching all of your amazing videos!!!
Vorpal + Lead from Gold just went live at Banshee O:
I saw that! PvE perfection!
The perks of working from home! Just logged on to grab it before reset.
I couldn’t help but notice that when MW the impact drops to 50. Is this just a visual bug or does the charge time MW still drop its impact?
Stats are wrong, check out this in-depth guide on charge time update: czcams.com/video/LhWuKks4Zyc/video.htmlfeature=shared
Banshee's roll was nerfed by Bungo. Not even 24 hours after it came out, and they already changed it to feeding frenzy snapshot sights
that's today's roll. you missed yesterday's.
@@shinybeast damn. Oh well. Merciless exists
The snorri that I have is demon asf but even better I got the epicurean with surplus and rangefinder. It's actually nutty way better than youd think since it has no perks like under pressure I have over 70stability and 80range on it surplus gets better when your using a build with sixth coyote I like using strand warlock or stasis hunter. I'll unbind my melee if it's stasis so I'm always using two stacks of surplus since the shuriken is bad anyways. If I'm on strand warlock I'll unbind my melee so I'm always working with surplus stacks then. Surplus is really good on fusions it makes stats insane
Yeah for me it’s the god roll. I use rapids to be right up close and charge at people. 30 range suprised me honestly. Was mapping people way more than I thought I would anyway.
Hey Lego, what mod are you putting on it? Counterbalance? I’m on console btw.
I've been running targeting. It's a close call though, used to run counterbalance.
I enjoy my graverobber/vorpal
Banshee renews the inventory at 2 am in my timezone so many times i check dim mid sleep 😂
Haha! Omg! That’s crazy
I’ve had this roll with a Range MW for years. Is the charge time MW better?
I compare the two at the end of the video, and my conclusion is I'd prefer the range, but I know many who would like Charge time
@@Legoleflash OMG THE KING OF FUSIONS SPOKE TO ME!! *dies* 😃❤️☠️
I may not be able to get this pvp god roll, but I managed to get the pve god roll (lead/vorpal) a few weeks back. I prefer glacioclasm as my pvp fusion, but if I can I will grab it.
You have 90 mins
it's actually a little more than that! banshee reset is later in the day for some reason.
Targeting adjuster or counterbalance stock on my godroll? (Red dot micro, projection fuse or particle repeater, under pressure, high-impact reserves, range masterwork)😀
Tough choice honestly. I used to say Counterbalance, but I've enjoyed Targeting adjuster lately on it.
targeting only gives +5 aim assistance, counterbalance is better cos its narrow up recoil, 52 like 50 on jurassic green are worst all left recoil on any weapons
@@tomaszszupryczynski5453 the direction isn't always bad, sometimes I prefer a lower number that I can predict left foot or right foot to shoot at. +5 aim assist is a big deal to me, but, I didn't recommend it in the vid because I think different people will land different places on the value.
@@Legoleflash we still dont see all stats on weapons, you can see that with posterity vs word of crota, even posterity has 62 stability, behind relic shooting in middle of closest crit circle, you can shoot all shots in, where word of crota with extended or hammerforged only 7 land in 3 outside, had to change to smallbore with 71 stability to hit all 10 without moving mouse even both have 100 recoil. just holding left mouse button. same is with positive outlook not matter what stability recoil you have, crosshair jumps like guy with parkinson. even 720 rufus is more stable
Solid loadout but what heavy do you use/is the best
Probably GL (120rpm), takes a bit getting used to but being able to get 3 kills from one brick at any range while jumping like a maniac is so much value
@@scalarmotion I usually use an lmg kinda the same effect but I can’t really jump and you gotta aim
Can someone please clarify why the impact decreases by 5 with the charge time masterwork? This doesn't mean less damage?
Stats are wrong for impact, check out the in-depth charge time guide I made. It’s a little complicated to explain in a comment: czcams.com/video/LhWuKks4Zyc/video.htmlsi=a3IJNLRBuO5vRhPb
@@Legoleflash I will check it out. Thank you.
Nah my crafted Loop is a beast. One hit kills from miles away
Unfortunately zoom on fusion rifles is nerfed by 80%. Each point in zoom grants a 2% zoom modification instead of 10% like every other weapon. It's why rangefinder was (and still is) a huge boon for aim assist and recoil reduction, it's equivalent to a +5 zoom scope
That's actually not true anymore. That nerf has been removed as of the last zoom patch, details here: czcams.com/video/vqB-YeHQoeA/video.htmlfeature=shared&t=134
@@Legoleflash this is great news, thank you
What weapon mod do you run? Aim assist or counter balance?
I personally run aim assist since I play console, so it's easier for me to control me recoil. If you play mouse and keyboard, I'd probably say to try counterbalance first and see how it goes. Maybe take it through some private crucible for more consistent lower stress testing.
Check out Banshee's roll today Feb 24th!
Does he not sell drang anymore ?? He sells austrringer and bump in the night every other day. But never drang
I got up at like 12 in the morning when I heard he had a god roll and logged on and got it.
Haha that’s amazing!
@@Legoleflash what’s worse I played for an hour afterward and I had work today.
Still 19 hours left to snag one!
YESSSSS, FINALLY!
Right?!)!? Bout time!
Lead from Gold + Vorpal Weapon Cartesian Coordinate = Melting Bosses since 2018 😊
Is this really a good weapon? I'm new and been playing a week now
The rapids can be harder to use, but it's a GREAT weapon. If you are new, you might want to try a Precision or High Impact Frame fusion, but if you have the reflexes and play the map then rapids are great.
I have this same roll already, except with a handling MW and the 2nd scope besides RDM is Hitmark IS instead of RD2 MOA.
Would you advise that I switch out for the Banshee roll? Thanks in advance!
Love the analytical reviews and logic put into your content. Can't wait to see what's next.
yes😊
The masterwork does take away damage. I bought two and fully masterworked one. It droped from 54 to 50. So where is your information from?
Stats are wrong. Extensive community testing here: czcams.com/video/PT-Hjh00ZYs/video.htmlfeature=shared
I don't even play D2 at the moment but I'm on my way to buy this gun now lmao.
HA I feel that. I've been editing a different video and haven't logged in for a while... had to drop in IMMEDIATELY
@@Legoleflash we Destiny players get it lol 😆
When is this going away
6 hours from now
Gotta love when the video has been out for four minutes and already has 90 views.
I never know what to gauge it by myself! Especially in the dead season of d2!
This is going to be the one to get fusions nerfed
Make my zealot great again, pls bungo
what will you gain from this man? now i'm gonna see this in every loppy 😭
Nah, there are plenty of people who can't stand rapids. you'll be good.
How long is that roll going to be available ?
DIM currently shows 3 hours. Don’t know why this particular roll is resetting so fast, I feel like usually there is a bit more time.
Like I said though, there is another roll we’re going to eventually get. I have no doubt.
@@Legoleflash dang well I picked it up just now luckily. Appreciate you . Consider making a trials card video or how you go about encounters. Thanks again appreciate the response 🤓
Charge time is taking damage off.
MW doesn't anymore it's been patched
Stats aren’t accurate. Check the charge time guide I made: czcams.com/video/LhWuKks4Zyc/video.htmlsi=a3IJNLRBuO5vRhPb
Thanks, I’ll masterwork it. It’s pretty sweet. Even I can get kills with it. Lol
I’m not hating at all
But how are you getting those lobbies of bots.
Haha, most of this was recorded right after zoom changes when population was higher. I couldn’t use a lot of new footage or I wouldn’t have the vid out in time for people to get the roll 😅
@@Legoleflash GGs keep up the good content
This should not have happened. Now my vintage roll has lost value after the reprint.
welp looks like i missed it.
The one today is arguably better with that extra ranged. Not missing up as much
only good on controller
Meh pvp roll. No one cares
Ur cringe
I hate fusions they just don't kill unless it's an enemy one for some reason, if you like em, good. If you are like me. We suffer together against cringe brothers
there already was god roll, microdot, charge mw, liquid vs projection, under pressure, vorpal. was same with liquid vs accelerated and feeding frenzy, right now for last few hours you have kinetic bow 500ms with demo, mine also has archer tempo
yup, mention that in the vid. This one is for PvP though.
counterbalance mod will still better recoil to 67, even in pve its better to use recoil mod than damage mod, cos more bolts will hit target