The Adaptation of Oregairu's Confession Scene
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- čas přidán 10. 12. 2020
- Oregairu's Confession Scene is like most of the franchise in that there are plenty of callbacks within its text and a litany of subtext to explore...and we'll explore that here - but is it a good adaptation of the Light Novel? What does Studio Feel add and subtract to the source material that improves, lessens, or changes the value and text of the original? And is there a specific reason why I keep coming back to Hiratsuka time after time?
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Thank you for posting this Replay! Will you make another Oregairu video perchance?
I think he mention he was originally planning on making 3. The Haruno one is personally the most anticipated video of all CZcams! Haruno is a great character. And ofc " you can't get drunk either" is such a cathartic quote... The most anticipated video on all CZcams nuff said
@@joseramirez-hh2sw I agonize so much while watching the show to find a answer of what that line mean and even discussed with some people in the comments of the episode that all use of shots and use of ost just pass without me noticed. So I'm really looking foward for an analyses of the direction in the scene, because that is a thing that I can't do and why I love this channel so much and now I'm building hype for the video about Haruno.
@@davifelizardo4187 It's a shame no one has replied to you about it. It's two years late because I'm just seeing it now, but here's my own two cents' worth on Haruno's "You can't get drunk" line:
The first time I heard it, I immediately thought of the term "love drunk". This specific term refers to when people are caught in the moment and swept away by the tide of romantic feelings. They act like fools, and they do stupid things. And maybe later they "sober up" and realize how much of an idiot they were being.
If you broaden the term's definition, you can apply it to any situation where you are caught in your feelings and can't think straight. Call back to S1 E9 (the fireworks episode with Yuigahama):
Hachiman: "80% of the world's male population is prone to thinking, 'Hey, does she like me?' That's how they think and live. So I need to be careful and tell myself, 'Not a chance in hell'."
I can go down my own rabbit hole explaining how I think this ties back into Haruno's character (which I find *extremely* interesting from my own interpretations of her behavior). But for now, I'll just say my take on the "you can't get drunk" line is Haruno saying that both she and Hachiman don't get caught in the moment. They're too jaded by the life they've lived up to now.
What's funny is that after this episode people spammed this bridge on Google Maps with 5 Star reviews
@@0megalul309 www.google.com/maps/place/Inageritsu+Bridge/@35.6315154,140.0828715,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x60228398599b9b51:0x30d181129d73d6f2!8m2!3d35.6315128!4d140.0841729
@@0megalul309 its Inageritsu Bridge
@@Firli . 😅😮
Holy Shit i just searched the bridge on map and its filled with comments with "Genuine"..... I wish i can go to japan and to this bridge someday
Sensei change the life of Hachiman, that's the power of good teachers. Without her, Hachiman would still be an antisocial and frustrated person
Excellent observation. And very true. She is the key to the entire story.
haruno is basically hachiman that didnt get the help from sensei and ppl around him
@@fauzanadrian1593 not true i think haruno is the opposite of hachiman in that regard. she's the type to rely on everyone but takes action in her own way
@@sashuo5961 its not the same,but similar in terms of mindset and method,haruno love yukino her sister she want her to be happy etc but the only way of "genuine/honest" method she knew to help her is the worst one,which is basically like what hachiman do,she is hachiman but didnt get the help or hiratsuka sensei "failed" to help her back then.thats why when she become adult she is become harune whe know which is cynical,pesimistic and rotten in the head which is basically the old hachiman.
One thing I found interesting about this confession scene is the act of handholding itself (very lewd I know)
In S2, after Hachiman “confesses” to Ebina, Yui grabs his sleeve to tell him that he should think more about other people’s feelings and his actions were wrong. After she literally grabs his attention, she lets go.
It happens again during the genuine scene, Yui grabs Hachiman’s sleeve to tell him to chase after Yukino. He breaks her grip and says he can walk on his own.
Then in S3, after the prom is a success, Hachiman leaves to hear out Haruno, but this time Yukino grabs his sleeve. She wanted to hear what Hachiman was going to say about the club before being interrupted, but Hachiman breaks her grip and continues to Haruno.
And finally in the confession scene, Hachiman grabs Yukino’s hand because if he were to let go, they wouldn’t see each other again. Grabbing her hand as opposed to her sleeve is significant in this scene because Hachiman’s actions here cement a proper relationship through a confession.
At least that’s how the anime HANDled it.
It’s an interesting distinction that the LNs have Hachiman grab her sleeve instead of her hand. I think the act of grabbing their sleeve shows the characters trying to reach out to someone who isn’t willing to accept it. Which is the case for all these scenes, including the bridge scene. In the LN, I think having Hachiman grab the sleeve shows that from his experiences, this is the only way to get a person’s attention in a meaningful way for those in the service club. Although in the bridge scene, Hachiman fully reaches out to Yukino instead of just grabbing her attention.
It’s another interesting difference in the anime adaptation as actual handholding shows a great breakthrough visually, it shows that Hachiman is reaching out further to Yukino. The LN on the other HAND, shows that grabbing the sleeve gives characterization to Hachiman and Yukino. It shows that they are still very clumsy when it comes to communicating their feelings, and they come to accept those parts of themselves anyway.
Holy shit dude everything u wrote was so OSSOM
I want to give you a HAND for explaining, but you already said it HANDsomely.
@@risn5478 its beautiful how they HANDled the confession scene
Are you Hiratsuka sensei?
I'm gonna miss this anime. Hachiman finally got his genuine. May we all meet ours as well.
tf ive seen u in another video
Oregairu’s confession scene is probably my favorite confession scene in any show I’ve ever watched.
My most favorite scene out of all scenes out there. Runner up is their "date"
What an absolute banger of a climax this was, one of my favorite anime’s tbh
my fav
“I want something genuine” will always be my favorite scene. Oregairu changed my life so much, I’m glad I watched this show
I swear, as much as I love Oregairu, it gets SO freaking complicated and hard to understand sometimes! It's like it was made for the sole purpose of being broken down and analysed in video essays like this one. Still, I can't help but like it and this essay only served to strengthen that notion!
Looking forward to the next one! Great work as always!
Hummm, just like real human relationships! It's complicated!
It's relieving to know that I am not alone in this feeling 😅
Read the light novels and a lot of that confusion will disappear.
@@thickestofmints4058 That removes the fun of trying to understand the characters through their body language and behavior though, reading the LN itself is a separate experience in of itself
Oregairu is a slightly different type of show/light novel. It is not lighthearted entertainment like most other anime (keyword: most) and actually demands active engagement and analysis from the viewer/reader. Personally, I felt that the analysis was more than half the fun of the series.
The whole bridge overtone is such a satisfying setting for this scene. Mensa galaxy brain.
My favorite scene is when his teacher is saying to marry her “Take me”
If only hachiman was born 10 years earlier, he would have fallen hard for hiratsuka sensei.
@@adielfasshan664 probably not because she would've been at a different mental state like she said
There’s been a lot of fun discussion surrounding Oregairu, though as usual, yours seems to articulate it best. It’s a bit weird to say, but as analytical as your writing is, it feels optimistic. I love that, and I think that it gives these Oregairu videos a really pleasant tingle to them. Merry Christmas!
i couldn't have said it better myself
This guy knows how to end a youtube video.
No fuss abt subscribe, like and notification bell.
But still leaves a deep impression
Cant lie, it was worth picking up this series this quarantine, that climax was amazing when I first saw it too.
Please make more Oregairu videos. I just want to see more people break down this awesome show.
Totally agree. I feel like it’s such a shame that animes like Oregairu or March Comes in Like a Lion don’t get many videos about them despite being really good animes
God I love those kids.
Thank you for this! It's always great to hear your thoughts!
The anime loves making cuts to save time. Save time for yui scenes that is.
That scene was def one of the best confessions in anime
There is so much I feel I can say I love about this show and its characters, but I feel like if I were to start talking, I still wouldn’t be saying enough. There’s so much I feel I could learn each time I come back here, so many different ways I feel I can look at it to find a new angle.
I don’t know if I will find another show like this one, cherish the development and nuance of characters like I have here. Great memories, lessons learned.
Finally, I’ve been waiting for a video on the third season
Props and love for putting in so much effort to analyse all the little details. This anime deserves it 100%
great video. You always clear things up in great detail. Had goosebumps half of that video!
Alright, this channel is undervalued. Keep them coming!
Thanks for making this video. I love this anime and part of the reason for that is discussions that come from it like these videos
I was waiting for a season 3 video from you, I'm glad you haven't forgotten about the show.
Found your first vid about hyouka in my recommended and have been watching since. Love your analysis. Keep up the great work. 🙌
Your channel Man. Literally like a gem
Your ending with the title drop gave me the same goosebumps, I experienced back at the episode itself.
Amazing video!
Absolutely amazing analysis 👍
Loved the video.
Being waiting for this video. This anime is incredible as your videos are.
I have no words for this, so I can just say Amazing!
Amazing content
It is up!
Forgoes the law of equivalent exchange huh, a true philosopher that hachiman.
Ima watch it like another seven times cause it has a lot of replay value
THE REPLAY VALUE !! YES!! also I literally wrote down the equivalent exchange line i love it so much
This can't be possible I just finish watching Oregairu today and right now I'm watching and rewatching videos and analysis of the show and you post a video about Oregairu today, HOW ARE THE ODDS?
I’ve had this video on my Watch List for 2 years
Hey Replay, I just wanna say that I’ll always recognize you as the best analytical anime youtuber out there. I can’t express how much these videos have meant to me. I don’t really have a way with words and to see someone have such a fond appreciation for something that I do as well, and to be able to recognize why I’m so fond for series like these, through videos like this one, makes me cry. Thank you for these videos man. I really needed this.
Solid video! always love your content
This was a BANGER analysis and I just love hearing the classic intro you always do. I feel like snafu has done what most anime haven't and that's give you the subtext without giving it to you. Through the visuals and the characters action you really paint a picture as to what they're thinking without a line of text saying it for you. I would definetly like to see a video on how visually they express their characters. They use the idea of "show don't tell" perfectly for an adaptation of a VN. Just wanted to show a little appreciation for a fan of your content, thanks as always.
Great to see your content again. Hope things have improved for you. Oregairu is a great example of doing correctly what a lot of anime gets wrong and hearing analysis on it is so fascinating.
You're definitely underrated. You need more subscriber man
"Love" is Simply Inefficient to Convey Love: The Confession
CZcams didn't recommend this to me. I only found it because I searched for the scene, which is funny because I've rewatched your oregairu videos multiple times. Subbed so I don't miss any more.
Also I'll watch any oregairu video you put out and most likely enjoy it too
Yui: This could be us
Hachiman: **turns to Yukino** so back to what I was saying
Tbh as a person who waited for 5 years or so for that scene is pretty amazing
This is the first video I've seen by you but I really love it so I'm going to subscribe and I hope to enjoy the rest of your videos
This is the first video I watched of this channel... Good fucking work done man.. subscribe worthy
I am only a bit into the video but I can already feel the quality man. Keep it up.
This is the only channel which is talking about Oregairu.......Thank you so much.....!!!!!
12:09 this part of the anime was incredibly beautiful, and seeing Hachiman take that wisdom with him to the bridge with Yukino was a beautiful move by him. I'm really happy you included this part in this video
amazing break down!!!
You made me remember such good feelings and good days..
The video we'll have been waiting for.
Thank you for this video. Really great stuff. Oregairu will forever be my favorite rom-com anime of all time.
I feel you are the only man who can properly analyze/ interprete oregairu to full Justice.
Because of your amazing analyzing ability and hard work this is one of my favorite channels. 🤗🤗
A bit long, but I'd like to share my thoughts here as well:
What I see here in this episode when I watched this was more of a total recognition of Hachiman and Yukino as "human beings" interwoven from one another, rather than as mere "individuals" having such fictitious relationships (more of a subject-object relation, not directed to them, but to the situation they are into). It is, in the very sense, that both of them understood the weight of their existences in each other, not merely because of needing each other just for the sake of 'saving each other from their own mess', but more of this person has shaped their respective individualities. With the two of them realizing they have the least time left before their high school lives are over, they are scrambling to convey what they should; however, given their respective situations (and being socially inept in expressing their feelings) it turned to be difficult in expressing their genuine selves. Hachiman himself knew that his search for a genuine relationship has come to an end: it just requires him to convey them in a way that he speaks thru his own heart and mind, both in sync. (Even the episode title says it all, "Our feelings are conveyed through only the warmth of our touch" - the anime gave justice to what has been long awaited for the past 8 years: Hachiman and Yukino admitting to themselves that they long for each other's existence, despite the differences)
Though the striking difference indeed is present both in the LN and the anime, what makes them unique from each other is that both of them employs the power of imagination through the human creative mind. For the LN, it is the monologues that let us be immersed in the thoughts of Hachiman and Yukino in their respective shoes, mulling over such thoughts in a situation you are having a hard time expressing yourself with. The anime, on the other hand, exercises the aesthetic tendencies to deliver explicitly and implicitly what was found in the source material, whether visual shift, colors or even the camera leveling.
All in all, what the three main characters wanted are also the things we wanted: genuine relationships while forming our own identities. In a world wherein everything can be just easily fabricated, we seek those who we consider to be part of our genuine growth in search of our individuality. Though we shape our own paths, we all know to ourselves how others can contribute also to our own growth, and likewise take shape as well in the path that we will take.
Replay Value, I really appreciate the fact that you were able to raise the subtext to a level that an ordinary viewer (or reader, if he/she looks in the LN) can understand simply. I admire your work and the passion to give a thoughtful analysis in the episodes, characters and even the whole setup of the show. I'm a university instructor today (I was still a HS student when the first show was aired), and I can say that I always recommend the show to my students because it truly reflects our nature as human beings. I'd recommend as well in the upcoming term your analysis for them to have a good context in understanding the show. Many thanks for your hardwork!
You're great Replay, love your analysis (perhaps because our tastes are so similar).
Nowadays to progress at a better pace in anitube you have to put some kind of meme and that overshadows this type of Analytical Anitube! So greats prop to you still sticking to this! It's now rare to see only analysis on anime. Great uploads!!!
I'm gonna fucking sob you did so well with this bro.
yey yey, i was about to watch the first upload but check and it was private :( but is up again so lets enjoy
Actually I´m crying in the middle of a math class at 8:57am in a saturday, some time passes and I don´t believe I was able to cry with this series again, that final line in the video get me everything, "Our feelings are conveyed through only the warmth of our tocuh". Oh God, I need to say thank you for the involved whit this series that made me change a lot as high schooler too,and say thak you to Replay Value, you showed me things that I was not able to notice, that shade of blue from the sky, I will not forget it anymore. Thank you.
Thank you Replay Value! Just found your page and absolutely love your analysis videos!!! I was wondering if there is a meaning behind Hachiman drinking different coffees and how they use it as a symbolism? There are sometimes he pics MAX and sometimes he drinks Black coffee can, I know there is some meaning behind this occurring drink
This confession and the confession between Shirogane and Kaguya are my absolute favourite ones ❤️
About 80% of what makes oregairu so genius its subtext, its nice seeing someone noticing that.
❤️❤️ that was damn good man❤️❤️
Yo that's not a confession. That's a FREAKING MARRIAGE PROPOSAL
Heh just 2 hours ago I was watching some Oregeiru youtuber content and ended on your podcast episode with Subtitled Anime, those vids were all about the first two season and unfortunately as great as the timing of your video now is, I can´t watch it yet because Oregairu is my favourite show and as such I really felt what you guys where talking about on the podcast, it is exhausting watching that content sometimes and the last few months I was just not in the right headspace to give it the watch it deserved (hence why I was trying to get in the mood with some analysis vids of it) so unfortunately I gotta push this watch off until then as well :P
Glad this was uploaded! Always happy to hear your thoughts!
Why is this anime soooooo good??? Definitely my personal favorite anime that I’ve watched
I teared up a little while I was watching the video, I'm slowly starting to realize what I've witnessed and what oregairu really means to me. I'm sad that it's over but I'm glad it happened. I'm also convinced that I should in fact read the light novel now because it looks so good.
This video reminded me that I watched 2 episodes of the new Oregairu season and then fell off due to investing time in other stuff while it was coming out. I'll go finish the series and then come back to this video when I'm done.
My fav anituber uploads yaaaaaay
yes i love this video an inasne amount good jod oregairu is my favorite anime and people like you help to show why
Your videos are always an intersection of passion and education for me. I love how you convey your thoughts and, as other comments say, come from a place of positivity. I think specifically because the Oregairu community has been largely negative in it's reception of S3 (I really should stay away from that sub), I haven't allowed myself to enjoy it as much as I should. I'm going to rewatch the series again sometime soon, but one thing is for certain: my love for this series. It's a masterpiece for me and so are you videos. Happy holidays and thank you for sharing with us.
I think I'll add that the whole LN vs anime discourse is so tiring at this point that I'm glad you were able to put a refreshing spin on it. I believe you've already hit on adaptations vs source before (my memory is foggy), but I dislike the idea that anything but a 1-for-1 adaptation means that it was not a true way of experiencing a story. I've found a lot of the criticism is a result of expectations not being fulfilled in the eyes of source material readers. If the way which you understand the story was from the source, I can understand why an adaptation may not be what you would have wanted, but from an anime only perspective, we can't feel we've missed out on material that we didn't know could have existed. Even without, I felt that the third season did a great job. This may not have been the story that LN readers were expecting, but it was a damn good one. Discussion on Yui screen time vs Yukino screen time is also strange to me because I think it did a great job of establishing the feeling that they were drifting apart. We were just as anxious as Hachiman and Yui while they struggled with their feelings. More Yukino screen time could have added clarity, but it also comes at the expense of that. The video spoke on it, but adaptation is a series of trade-offs. I don't think staff went into the season deciding that Yukino screen time was less important than Yui's. One was just more necessary to show. I could type all day about this subject so I'll leave it here. Sorry for the wall of text.
@@TheCathordran You legitimately summed up my entire thoughts on all of the S3 hate. The subreddit was just full of LN readers hating S3, it was so hard for anime-onlys to enjoy the show. I've always felt that if an anime is good on it's own, it should be able to stand without only being compared to the source material. Happy to see someone else sees it the same way I do. Thank you for this.
@@HollowMugetsuIchigo I'm happy I wasn't just typing into the abyss! I've struggled with my thoughts when it comes to season 3 because It's really stood as a representation of staying true to myself while acknowledging and understanding others' feelings. I'm not "right" in my beliefs just as they aren't with theirs. Criticism/analysis is a balance of being honest with yourself while also allowing for new perspectives to possibly shape your beliefs. That doesn't mean that they will, but being open to that possibility allows us to grow as individuals and thinkers. Social media has a propensity to focus on the toxic aspects of this process and tends to bum me out because of that.
@@TheCathordran holy shit this is exactly how I felt about S3. Seeing the constant hate from the subreddit really tested my patience on the series, and it's funny because S3 actually elevated Oregairu from my 6th favorite anime to my #1 favorite. I also felt the same way, I acknowledged the complaints that people had (even if I didn't agree with most of them) while trying to stay true to my own opinion. I'm glad that you still enjoyed this season despite the popular opinion (mainly from some of the LN readers, not from the anime-onlys) on that subreddit.
STOP making me put all your videos in my favorites, eff you, I love your work too much, especially oregairu's, eff you for being a CZcamsr I can always watch, why arent you a book writer earning millions, but yeah, as an anime-only guy, that episode sent me shivers, way more than what i was expecting since I decided to watch that first episode back in 2013, a literal rollercoaster of emotions just the anime alone, BUT YOU! your way of thinking, of dissecting every little detail, of reading between lines, I hate that I am not you to enjoy this series like that, i friggin love your work man, honestly, go write a book, regards, a fan of yours.
Thank you for the kind words, and for your continued support =)
I really want you to make an analysis on Haruno, she's really underrated or in the shadows of Hachiman, Yukino and Yui (they all are great too).
She's quite complex as a character, her motives and thoughts are so conflicting like a real person. A very easy top 5 Oregairu character (would be top 3 or 4 considering only the anime). Love her!
Zaimokuza and Hayama are also really underlooked alongside Haruno, they all are such great characters. Zaimokuza is sadly marginalised in the anime but the LN does some great things with his character.
I'm very interested in a new video about visual style.
Keep it up it's a beautifull content ❤️ it👍
man ! what a fuckin beaut this anime was! I crave for so much more. I have never been so sad when an anime ended but with oregairu, its different 😭❤❤
Best confession i've ever seen ngl
In the light novel I think a quote by Haruno that really summarizes alot of who she is when she tells 8man "You become an adult when you give up on certain things." And I hope you do a video on her, anime adaptation or light novel idc which lol
I would love to know your opinion of when Yukino says "suki" at the end of the episode. My interpretation of it is that since they're now on the same wavelength they've built up the groundwork of all the little negative things as well as all the positive things and can now compact all that into the single word "suki". But it isn't a generic one, but a genuine one. It's unique to them, built up of things only between them and saying "suki" to anyone else would be built up of different experiences and emotions.
oh yes, another oregairu video
Hope they make a ova about hachiman having a dinner in yukino family.
i still didn't recovered from the pain that yui have been put through in this last season
8man hugged Yukino on the anime and that's enough for me as a light novel reader. They also held hands which is alpha as fuck move by 8 man.
and now we hope to dear god they dont take this down because its oregairu and for some reason any oregairu related vdieo seems to get copyrighted
Looking forward to haruno video
I just wish i could think all of this during my english paper
0:32 me! i would find it interesting!
I will ALWAYS click on an Oregairu analysis.
Ouch, I'm so out of the Anime loop anymore I didn't even know there was a season three
you hard spoiled ur self lol
Really excellent exposition of this central scene in the story. Actions do speak louder than words. Hachiman never uses the L word, but everything he does here is L. And it clearly touches Yukino. Enjoy your reviews very much. thanks.
I'm still waiting for the Haruno you can't be drunk scene and the Hachiman 2.0 Iroha's take responsibility
I was like, OMG its happening everyone stay calm
God, i love this anime
man.. i miss hiratsuka sensei!
oregairu is just love! great show, great end.
As a novel reader who dislike a lot the season 3 because it's a very bad adaption from my POV (except at some points like the confession scene actually). I really, really loved this video. As usual, you're making a good analysis, pointing all the small details that may seems unimportant but are actually what make this scene so good, and end the video in litteraly the best way possible (Oregairu always hit with the LN chapters of episode titles and I love it).
Great thank for the video, I'll be sure to share it on the french Oregairu Discord (need to educate the plebs! :p), really happy to see an analysis of this scene that I love so much.
At ~12:20, you're talking about Hiratsuka and how she's an important character that help in Hachiman growth, will you make a video about her ? I'd love it.
I love Oregairu, it's my favorite anime and I've watched over 100 animes at this point. I can understand why LN readers are mad about S3 adaptation since it doesn't do every scene in the volumes 12-14 justice, but I feel that as a stand-alone anime, it's still amazing. As a LN reader, do you think the show is good when not compared to the LN and just as it's own story?
@@HollowMugetsuIchigo Yeah, the show itself is good even when not compared to the anime. I still think S3 was the less good of all 3 tho.
@@JullOxW For me I felt like the Yui scenes were done well but they did leave out a lot of the Yukino stuff and Hachiman inner monologues but personally I don’t think it’s to bad but I will say it is the worst out of the three
@@PlanScare The Yui scenes were well done but there was wayyyyy too much focus on her and she shouldn't have got all that screentime. Thanks S3 producer for being a Yui-con
@@JullOxW Here I agree with you on the Yui shouldn’t have gotten this much
Lets GOOOOO
I loved this confession and been team yukinon since s1, but was it worth yuis heart breaking?