Be sure to catch Maddie's premiere is which is PART 2 of this video/collab over at czcams.com/video/GpVbkM0lMdE/video.html where you can chat with us both live as the video plays!
I'm huge fan of your channel, but I always wondered if you can train a dove/pigeon to free flight like the parrots do. I have 3 doves and it's been a struggle to train them. I'm hoping this comment sparks a video idea
Finally a person EXPERIENCED with pigeons!!! That last Pigeon related video was an absolute hot mess. I am very glad that parrot tricks was able to tell the woman straight up that they could not help her because they were not experienced with Pigeon hormonal behaviors or training. Pigeon sociology and psychology is completely different than parrots they have different breeding behaviors and different social structures. Maddie is well-versed in all of this and I’m sure she will be able to give a good insight on this very interesting subject
Your icon is the CUTEST. And yes, I hope you love this collab! We had no idea people were craving pigeon content and we love expanding our own horizons.
First of all, I adore your icon! Thank you for hyping me up! I definitely need to make a video discussing pigeons and their generally aggressive/sassy behaviors in the future. Truly, I need to make more pigeon content in general, if we’re being honest. With my hand raised male, I feel like I haven’t experienced the traditional standard male pigeon behavior; I have the intense, “I hate you/love you I’ve never been taught to be a pigeon” behavior. I wish I had someone local to me with a non-hand raised male that was accustomed to humans to compare. My only friend with pigeons also has a hand raised male, and he is almost carbon copy behavior wise to my guy. Super interesting honestly!
@@MaddieSmith I fostered a parent raised boy for months and eventually his behavior was almost like that of a hand raised boy. He began mounting my hand and biting but he never went out of his way to approach me or ask for affection.
@@brysenstrowder5178 They're something else! I've had a lot of success redirecting Coo-per onto a stuffed sock for his "hormonal needs" and divert him from my hands. That seems to have helped a lot in that aspect, and he's mellowed out as a result; which I am VERY thankful for.
We rescued a pigeon years ago who had been dumped on the porch of a pet store after his mate died and he didn’t. He was 9 years old when we rescued him and had not been kept in the best condition. We planned on giving him the best life we could for the rest of his life (which we didn’t think would be long). Well 6 years later he is now 15 years old. He despises our other birds and we joke he is our old grumpy man but he is going strong.
Adopting my Sky Rat on Friday. I am already very inl ove with him, I could not be more excited. Birds are my favorite animals, and the Pigeon is the best pet bird in my eyes. As long as you take good care of them, and are calm and kind to your Pidgey, they are easy to care for and will see you as their family.
Pigeons are definitely different then parrots, and in many ways make much better pets and companion animals. It's so exciting that more people are bringing attention to them! (Although the fact that pigeons are aggressive when they're raised by humans, should maybe tip off parrot breeders that handraising might have life-long consequences...)
Yessss!!!! Yay! I think that pigeons and Doves are so underrated and a lot of people tell misinformation about them even big youtubers but I'm really excitedto watch this video
The pigeons we know of now are rock doves 😆 they both mean the same thing. The word "pigeon" just came from the French whereas "dove" came from Nordic languages
I feed pigeons on my balcony and my bird (African grey) just sits there flying around in his aviary.Pigeons are very nice birds and this premiere is going to be awesome
Well one showed up on my doorstep a week ago, peeping and flapping. He appeared to be an adult but for a few baby feathers on his neck. He let me pick him up. He appeared healthy so I readied a silicone boba straw with some baby bird food. He got the idea, but hated the bird food. On to peas...a big favorite. Washed corn as well. I have to pop them into his crop for him to try a new food. Within a day he was drinking water from a dish, within two he took his first few tentative pecks at seeds, and today he had a bunch of them rather enthusiastically. Popped a few wild berries in his mouth when he asked. I figured he'd like them. Now, he CAN eat if he wants to, but he constantly begs for me to do it for him. He can fly to anyplace in the house that I am to beg to be crop fed. I have been leaving the house for an hour here and there, and he eats the food I leave, at least half of it. It seems if he's not eating, he wants to be HELD. And petted. I know baby chicks/chickens do too, but they get tired of it and are interested in something else after a few minutes. This guy wants constant body contact. It would be great if I could keep him; but they are funny about pets here. My intent was to build a birdhouse back on the treeline and keep filling the birdfeeder there. Now I have to get him to WANT to leave the house.....
What you said at 0:27, yes, I wish I had known. I have a serious lung disease and I had a dove for 18 years, who flew out the door unexpectedly. So someone brought me this pigeon, even though I said no. So Teeka was only 4 weeks old. I cared for him and fell in love with him and let him fly free in my apartment, just as my dove did. Now my lung disease is much, much worse and I wish I had refused to take Teeka, even though now I can't seem to rehome him, because we are so bonded.
Yes my pigeons love my cat tree! It’s perfect with the levels. Also pigeons can rebound and rebond, especially the males I have seen even sneaky link with other hens even while married with baby birds in the nest!!!! I had a lonely hen and he must have heard her singing or something. They are monogamous for the most part, they take a while to get over their spouse when separated but will take to a new mate after only a few weeks of separation. If they get put back with their old spouse again they will often go back to their first mate.
I have a pet dove and have fostered a pigeon before. Pigeons and doves are so amazing. My dove likes to sit on my phone or laptop while I’m working and it’s adorable.
Maddie's are so absolutely beautiful! There are Ringneck Doves (also lovely) near to me, one nested a few years in a tree in my yard and took care of the "baby" on the ground until it was hard to tell which was adult or baby, it was so large
Where I live it was very common to own and race pigeons as a working class hobby. My grandfather kept pigeons and I have so much love for them but they are mostly seen as 'rats with wings' now. Its so sad because they are very sweet and wonderful to watch them circle the air. The cooing is so soothing aswell.
I had a friend that rescued a big white king pigeon off the street. They are released at weddings sometimes and it was believed that was where this pigeon came from. He had a heavy parasite load, kinda sick, so yes vet bill. She got him a rescue racing bird girlfriend. All pigeons want to do is hump and make babies all the time.
I rescued a baby pigeon from the sidewalk. He couldn't even keep he's eyes open. Al she needed was food, water, and love. Now, I have a hard time letting her go. I fell in love with her. I'm gonna get her a mate, so they can enjoy their six nests I have all over my apartment for her.
I am kinda weirded out that pigeons aren’t protected by law in the USA and even around the world, they don’t really answer the criteria of Invasive Species and the can actually reduce bug problems and trash since they’re top notch foragers. It is funny because in some places street cats (absolutely invasive yet very helpful for us humans) are protected, but not pigeons? Huh. Are cats protected in the USA? Here in Israel they’re pigeons are supposably protected yet I am not sure people really care that they are.
It’s always rubbed me the wrong way that pigeons are seen as pests but people let outdoor cats run without a second thought! I’ve heard pigeons are treated very well in the Middle East, particularly Iraq.
@@MaddieSmith yes they are given emblems and earring and the highest standard of aviaries because that’s pretty much where they were first domesticated
I have had pigeons for many years and I don't agree with everything she said. It really depends on your bird and how you raise them .None of my hand reared babies grew up to be aggressive. Also depends as well how you socialize them with other birds and the rest of the world around them. I just finish raising a baby pigeon who is as sweet as she can be. She has the freedom to go outside on her own or sometimes she just likes to hang out around the house and loves getting in my way while I get the house work done. Loves getting rides on the mop. I just love her :-)
Are your hand raised birds male? Everyone I have talked to that has hand raised male pigeons without a mate say that they are more bitey and tough since they tend to view the human as their mate and become frustrated. I have not had a hand raised female bird with the same bold attitude as my hand raised male, they seem to be more easy going and less bossy.
Are these the same kind of birds you can train to send/recieve hand writtrn messages tied onto their feet ? Although I would guess nowadays there are soem kinf of body suit or vest for the notes being transferred in ?
Yes! Homing pigeons are the ones you would use to send messages. Carrier pigeons were the breed commonly used back in the day. I don't know of many people using them for message delivery nowadays, but before they would have a little vessel attached to their leg or a band that would hold a slip of paper. I'd imagine a body suit or vest would potentially hinder flying ability or make them more visible to predators and so likely that's why the leg band/vessel was used :)
Hey!! I am currently going to school In Rexburg Idaho, do you know of any free flying groups around here that I could get involved with? I don’t have a bird yet, but I am planning on getting one in the next year or two when my life starts sett down a bit. I want to start putting myself around birds so I can understand their body language and better prepare myself for when I do get one 🥰
I had a dove and I decided to get her a friend well when I went to get the “dove” it was a pigeon. Apparently she caught him . But didn’t want him? So I was like why!? Okay. I’m scared he won’t survive outside now. But he is so aggressive.
Whatever you do the worst a pigion can do to you is slap you with its wing....So , compared to a large parrot its being hit with a feather versus having your nose bit off..
pigeons are a type of dove but they act quite differently. Doves are pretty shy and not aggresive, while pigeons are a little clumsy, can be aggresive, and are noisy. I personally prefer doves.
Yoj can get fancy pigeons that are even mkre beautiful . check out NPA usa nktional pigeon Association. . the pjgeon hobby is great for kids too . we need mkre leople to keep pigeons . most people keep pigeons outside in a lkft not in the housse . that uone you have is color homing pigeon . they may or may not have homing abilities they are raised and selected for color. Babys are very easy to hand raise.
I love pigeons my dad has a lot in pakistan and as crazy as it sounds there free flighted they live in a big aviary and there are pairs of pigeons. He never trained them they just come back in the evening. I've tried sprouts for my birds and they love it but it gets stuck in their foot so I cut the tops only.
My pigeons are rescues that are unreleasable, or abandoned babies that were hand raised and bonded with people (like the bird I'm holding). They all do fly (as much as they can, as some of them are injured and not well flighted) all over the house and in predator proof aviaries. We are firm believers that pigeon racing/releasing is exploitative and cruel due to the disregard for the health and safety of the birds. In fact, two of our birds were racing rejects that were not wanted because they didn't return home to the loft or were injured. Pigeons are wonderful pets, and should not be looked at as disposable racing machines. Although I am young, I have worked with pigeons for over a decade in rescue/rehab settings and plenty of those I work around have been rehabbing and housing pigeons for many decades. I encourage you to check out Palomacy and Great Lakes Pigeon Rescue. They do wonderful work rehabbing and rehoming unreleasable and discarded birds that were victims of the racing industry.
Be sure to catch Maddie's premiere is which is PART 2 of this video/collab over at czcams.com/video/GpVbkM0lMdE/video.html where you can chat with us both live as the video plays!
I'm huge fan of your channel, but I always wondered if you can train a dove/pigeon to free flight like the parrots do. I have 3 doves and it's been a struggle to train them. I'm hoping this comment sparks a video idea
Lovely pigeons ❤❤❤❤🎉
Thank you for making the trip to come visit me and my birds, and show your followers the adorable, sassy, DUSTY world of pigeon ownership! ❤️
I am a huge pigeon fan here in Las Vegas. I have a mated pair that visits my backyard. So excited to subscribe to your channel!
Hope both of you ladies have all awesome weekend & power to the Puffin’s❣️ 💪🏼🦅
Thanks for this, Maddie! I've got 5 rescued feral pigeons & I love them dearly.
Finally a person EXPERIENCED with pigeons!!! That last Pigeon related video was an absolute hot mess. I am very glad that parrot tricks was able to tell the woman straight up that they could not help her because they were not experienced with Pigeon hormonal behaviors or training. Pigeon sociology and psychology is completely different than parrots they have different breeding behaviors and different social structures. Maddie is well-versed in all of this and I’m sure she will be able to give a good insight on this very interesting subject
Your icon is the CUTEST. And yes, I hope you love this collab! We had no idea people were craving pigeon content and we love expanding our own horizons.
@@BirdTricks I’m absolutely excited to watch! I’m loving the pigeon love recently!
First of all, I adore your icon! Thank you for hyping me up! I definitely need to make a video discussing pigeons and their generally aggressive/sassy behaviors in the future. Truly, I need to make more pigeon content in general, if we’re being honest.
With my hand raised male, I feel like I haven’t experienced the traditional standard male pigeon behavior; I have the intense, “I hate you/love you I’ve never been taught to be a pigeon” behavior. I wish I had someone local to me with a non-hand raised male that was accustomed to humans to compare. My only friend with pigeons also has a hand raised male, and he is almost carbon copy behavior wise to my guy. Super interesting honestly!
@@MaddieSmith I fostered a parent raised boy for months and eventually his behavior was almost like that of a hand raised boy. He began mounting my hand and biting but he never went out of his way to approach me or ask for affection.
@@brysenstrowder5178 They're something else! I've had a lot of success redirecting Coo-per onto a stuffed sock for his "hormonal needs" and divert him from my hands. That seems to have helped a lot in that aspect, and he's mellowed out as a result; which I am VERY thankful for.
We rescued a pigeon years ago who had been dumped on the porch of a pet store after his mate died and he didn’t. He was 9 years old when we rescued him and had not been kept in the best condition. We planned on giving him the best life we could for the rest of his life (which we didn’t think would be long). Well 6 years later he is now 15 years old. He despises our other birds and we joke he is our old grumpy man but he is going strong.
Adopting my Sky Rat on Friday. I am already very inl ove with him, I could not be more excited. Birds are my favorite animals, and the Pigeon is the best pet bird in my eyes. As long as you take good care of them, and are calm and kind to your Pidgey, they are easy to care for and will see you as their family.
Pigeons are definitely different then parrots, and in many ways make much better pets and companion animals. It's so exciting that more people are bringing attention to them!
(Although the fact that pigeons are aggressive when they're raised by humans, should maybe tip off parrot breeders that handraising might have life-long consequences...)
I got bunch handreaded pigeons non are aggressive
Yay pigeon! I adopted one a few days ago and working with him has been a blast! What under rated birds
Jamie's facial expressions are everything in this video!
Yessss!!!!
Yay!
I think that pigeons and Doves are so underrated and a lot of people tell misinformation about them even big youtubers but I'm really excitedto watch this video
I love doves. When I was a kid one flew right into our house, one hell of a surprise
I thought I was getting a dove. Turns out it was a pigeon. And I know NOTHING about pigeons. So this really helps a lot! Tysm guys!
The pigeons we know of now are rock doves 😆 they both mean the same thing. The word "pigeon" just came from the French whereas "dove" came from Nordic languages
@@frostglow interesting
I feed pigeons on my balcony and my bird (African grey) just sits there flying around in his aviary.Pigeons are very nice birds and this premiere is going to be awesome
Love that you guys are always out to learn more and take us along for the journey.
YES! this is an amazing coincidence, I've been researching pigeon keeping inside the home half a day today. Can't wait
Well one showed up on my doorstep a week ago, peeping and flapping. He appeared to be an adult but for a few baby feathers on his neck. He let me pick him up. He appeared healthy so I readied a silicone boba straw with some baby bird food. He got the idea, but hated the bird food. On to peas...a big favorite. Washed corn as well. I have to pop them into his crop for him to try a new food. Within a day he was drinking water from a dish, within two he took his first few tentative pecks at seeds, and today he had a bunch of them rather enthusiastically. Popped a few wild berries in his mouth when he asked. I figured he'd like them. Now, he CAN eat if he wants to, but he constantly begs for me to do it for him. He can fly to anyplace in the house that I am to beg to be crop fed. I have been leaving the house for an hour here and there, and he eats the food I leave, at least half of it. It seems if he's not eating, he wants to be HELD. And petted. I know baby chicks/chickens do too, but they get tired of it and are interested in something else after a few minutes. This guy wants constant body contact. It would be great if I could keep him; but they are funny about pets here. My intent was to build a birdhouse back on the treeline and keep filling the birdfeeder there. Now I have to get him to WANT to leave the house.....
So excited for this!! Two amazing ladies and an awesome pigeon all in one video!
YAY! i absolutely love pigeons and doves, i’ve been waiting for this one!
What you said at 0:27, yes, I wish I had known. I have a serious lung disease and I had a dove for 18 years, who flew out the door unexpectedly. So someone brought me this pigeon, even though I said no. So Teeka was only 4 weeks old. I cared for him and fell in love with him and let him fly free in my apartment, just as my dove did. Now my lung disease is much, much worse and I wish I had refused to take Teeka, even though now I can't seem to rehome him, because we are so bonded.
This was really enjoyable!!! And on a side note, this pigeon has a better wardrobe than I do, LOL!!
First thing to know is that They are NOT wild... They all ARE domestiucated feral .
Period
I just got 4 pigeons I'm so excited for this 👍👍👍
Maddie!!!! The crossover we needed lol
YES this is the vid I've been waiting for! My pigeon and I will definitely be watching this haha
What a great great great job thank you so very much for the information
On Guam we actually do have wild chickens everywhere ❤. Their babies are so so cute 😍.
I been talking about my pigions here for years
Yes my pigeons love my cat tree! It’s perfect with the levels. Also pigeons can rebound and rebond, especially the males I have seen even sneaky link with other hens even while married with baby birds in the nest!!!! I had a lonely hen and he must have heard her singing or something. They are monogamous for the most part, they take a while to get over their spouse when separated but will take to a new mate after only a few weeks of separation. If they get put back with their old spouse again they will often go back to their first mate.
Thanks, that was really interesting!
I rescued a dove when he was a baby and he loves me so much now
I have two adopted pigeons and other than the rescue and a FB group I am in I couldn't find a lot on pigeons. So exciting!
I have a pet dove and have fostered a pigeon before. Pigeons and doves are so amazing. My dove likes to sit on my phone or laptop while I’m working and it’s adorable.
Maddie's are so absolutely beautiful! There are Ringneck Doves (also lovely) near to me, one nested a few years in a tree in my yard and took care of the "baby" on the ground until it was hard to tell which was adult or baby, it was so large
Where I live it was very common to own and race pigeons as a working class hobby. My grandfather kept pigeons and I have so much love for them but they are mostly seen as 'rats with wings' now. Its so sad because they are very sweet and wonderful to watch them circle the air. The cooing is so soothing aswell.
Thanks Maddie and Jamie! I always like to learn new things. I did learn things about Pigeons that I never knew. 😀
I have to go to part two now!!
I had a friend that rescued a big white king pigeon off the street. They are released at weddings sometimes and it was believed that was where this pigeon came from. He had a heavy parasite load, kinda sick, so yes vet bill. She got him a rescue racing bird girlfriend. All pigeons want to do is hump and make babies all the time.
Pigeons are very cute too 😍
I rescued a baby pigeon from the sidewalk. He couldn't even keep he's eyes open. Al she needed was food, water, and love. Now, I have a hard time letting her go. I fell in love with her. I'm gonna get her a mate, so they can enjoy their six nests I have all over my apartment for her.
I love pigeons 🥰
❤❤❤ Happy New Year❤️❤️
I’m hand feeding my three week old Indian fantail pigeon!!
We love ours here Fredericksburg va
I am kinda weirded out that pigeons aren’t protected by law in the USA and even around the world, they don’t really answer the criteria of Invasive Species and the can actually reduce bug problems and trash since they’re top notch foragers. It is funny because in some places street cats (absolutely invasive yet very helpful for us humans) are protected, but not pigeons? Huh. Are cats protected in the USA?
Here in Israel they’re pigeons are supposably protected yet I am not sure people really care that they are.
It’s always rubbed me the wrong way that pigeons are seen as pests but people let outdoor cats run without a second thought! I’ve heard pigeons are treated very well in the Middle East, particularly Iraq.
@@MaddieSmith yes they are given emblems and earring and the highest standard of aviaries because that’s pretty much where they were first domesticated
Where did you get all the pigeon pants?
I got 19 pigeons there the best
Most are rescued ferals they make amazing pets
I have had pigeons for many years and I don't agree with everything she said. It really depends on your bird and how you raise them .None of my hand reared babies grew up to be aggressive. Also depends as well how you socialize them with other birds and the rest of the world around them. I just finish raising a baby pigeon who is as sweet as she can be. She has the freedom to go outside on her own or sometimes she just likes to hang out around the house and loves getting in my way while I get the house work done. Loves getting rides on the mop. I just love her :-)
Are your hand raised birds male? Everyone I have talked to that has hand raised male pigeons without a mate say that they are more bitey and tough since they tend to view the human as their mate and become frustrated. I have not had a hand raised female bird with the same bold attitude as my hand raised male, they seem to be more easy going and less bossy.
Are these the same kind of birds you can train to send/recieve hand writtrn messages tied onto their feet ? Although I would guess nowadays there are soem kinf of body suit or vest for the notes being transferred in ?
Yes! Homing pigeons are the ones you would use to send messages. Carrier pigeons were the breed commonly used back in the day. I don't know of many people using them for message delivery nowadays, but before they would have a little vessel attached to their leg or a band that would hold a slip of paper. I'd imagine a body suit or vest would potentially hinder flying ability or make them more visible to predators and so likely that's why the leg band/vessel was used :)
Hey!! I am currently going to school In Rexburg Idaho, do you know of any free flying groups around here that I could get involved with?
I don’t have a bird yet, but I am planning on getting one in the next year or two when my life starts sett down a bit. I want to start putting myself around birds so I can understand their body language and better prepare myself for when I do get one 🥰
I had a dove and I decided to get her a friend well when I went to get the “dove” it was a pigeon. Apparently she caught him . But didn’t want him? So I was like why!? Okay. I’m scared he won’t survive outside now. But he is so aggressive.
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Just an fyi the mom AND dad raise and feed babies together
Whatever you do the worst a pigion can do to you is slap you with its wing....So , compared to a large parrot its being hit with a feather versus having your nose bit off..
Exactly! Even the worst pigeon bite I’ve received left barely a scratch, and they’ve never made me bleed. It’s wonderful.
What's the difference between pigeons and doves?
pigeons are a type of dove but they act quite differently. Doves are pretty shy and not aggresive, while pigeons are a little clumsy, can be aggresive, and are noisy. I personally prefer doves.
i have perdana budgie free flight tadi siang 😁
Yoj can get fancy pigeons that are even mkre beautiful . check out NPA usa nktional pigeon Association. . the pjgeon hobby is great for kids too . we need mkre leople to keep pigeons . most people keep pigeons outside in a lkft not in the housse . that uone you have is color homing pigeon . they may or may not have homing abilities they are raised and selected for color. Babys are very easy to hand raise.
I love pigeons my dad has a lot in pakistan and as crazy as it sounds there free flighted they live in a big aviary and there are pairs of pigeons. He never trained them they just come back in the evening. I've tried sprouts for my birds and they love it but it gets stuck in their foot so I cut the tops only.
Here to confirm hand raised pigeons are more mean 😂
I have 150 pigeons
"*வாழ்க வளர்க எம் மக்கள் பல்லாண்டு பல்லாண்டு பல்லாண்டு*, *God Bless Everyone*"
Its 100% dave's idea😂
As a pigeon fancier for 30 years I think you have no idea what you are talking about. They should be flying. Not kept in a room. Disgusting.
My pigeons are rescues that are unreleasable, or abandoned babies that were hand raised and bonded with people (like the bird I'm holding). They all do fly (as much as they can, as some of them are injured and not well flighted) all over the house and in predator proof aviaries. We are firm believers that pigeon racing/releasing is exploitative and cruel due to the disregard for the health and safety of the birds. In fact, two of our birds were racing rejects that were not wanted because they didn't return home to the loft or were injured. Pigeons are wonderful pets, and should not be looked at as disposable racing machines. Although I am young, I have worked with pigeons for over a decade in rescue/rehab settings and plenty of those I work around have been rehabbing and housing pigeons for many decades. I encourage you to check out Palomacy and Great Lakes Pigeon Rescue. They do wonderful work rehabbing and rehoming unreleasable and discarded birds that were victims of the racing industry.
@@MaddieSmith I too keep rescues and unwanted birds and guess what, they all fly. They are let out to fly. Why? Because they are birds that fly.