I Ranked Every Status Move For Nuzlocking

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  •  Před rokem +100

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    • @timjonsson2602
      @timjonsson2602 Před rokem

      Great digestible video, any chance you can upload the VOD similar to the ability tier lists? Either on daily or VOD channel?

    • @Lunar1314_
      @Lunar1314_ Před rokem

      I'll think about it

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    • @brendaj252
      @brendaj252 Před rokem +1

      omg my mom is obsessed with this game, so i can't believe their your sponsor. If you aren't a Match 3 gamer, try and get your mom to download it. I'm not kidding. Mom's love match 3.

    • @rayyaninspookymonth1630
      @rayyaninspookymonth1630 Před rokem

      I'm not into empires and puzzles, but not going to lie, you got me there by hiding all 27 useless moves in the ad, keep up the good work!

  • @lolcheeserofl
    @lolcheeserofl Před rokem +2123

    That was actually such a genius ad read not gonna lie

    • @dick.torture
      @dick.torture Před rokem +21

      did ya hear that everyone? Jordan Michael is not lying

    • @darckense1
      @darckense1 Před rokem +36

      Wait MAGNETIC FLU-

    • @fratparty69
      @fratparty69 Před rokem +11

      Last video the ad segment was really cool too, he raced a 1min speedrun side by side

    • @nazek4216
      @nazek4216 Před rokem +11

      What was it? sponsorblock auto-skipped it for me

    • @agatha6999
      @agatha6999 Před rokem +21

      @@nazek4216 he said all the completely useless status moves in the ad read

  • @bradigan
    @bradigan Před rokem +843

    I love how the footage is all of these moves against Magikarp. It has the feel of an in-universe Pokémon trainer going out and beating up on Magikarp for content.

    • @ilavain
      @ilavain Před rokem +8

      like dissecting a frog

    • @l4zybo1
      @l4zybo1 Před rokem +3

      Wait till it gets to lvl 20

    • @sillygoose2488
      @sillygoose2488 Před rokem

      ​@@l4zybo1 there was a lvl 50 Magikarp somewhere tho

    • @didack1419
      @didack1419 Před rokem +6

      @@sillygoose2488 What about that one at level 100? That one can't even evolve anymore.

    • @CrookiNari
      @CrookiNari Před rokem

      or shooting fish in a barrel

  • @sillykyle17
    @sillykyle17 Před rokem +481

    Showing Pilot's death while talking about your nuzlocke experience is next level comedy

    • @mikecharecky2818
      @mikecharecky2818 Před rokem +8

      Thank you I was looking for this comment

    • @xscizor2050
      @xscizor2050 Před rokem +11

      Also the 77 Sceptile death when talking about double battes

  • @willard_0890
    @willard_0890 Před rokem +881

    Most pokemon that learn agility are already insanely fast mons ex:most birds

    • @oKnuTo
      @oKnuTo Před rokem +91

      metagross agility is viable maby porygon but thats pretty much it.

    • @Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy
      @Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy Před rokem +71

      There are some good ones
      Empoleon
      Ampharos
      Vikavolt
      Gorebyss
      Sandslashes
      Scizor
      Luxray

    • @alejandro_rodriguez_99
      @alejandro_rodriguez_99 Před rokem +25

      ​@@Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy gorebyss is a really bad option, rain dance is usually better due to swift swim

    • @Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy
      @Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy Před rokem +3

      @@alejandro_rodriguez_99 yes but if you don't get swift swim as your ability

    • @alejandro_rodriguez_99
      @alejandro_rodriguez_99 Před rokem +32

      @@Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy swift swin is its only normal ability, the other one is the hidden one

  • @MANNAT.
    @MANNAT. Před rokem +152

    15:21 One VERY useful part of imprison is using Imprison + Explosion vs slow Explosion users to completely jam up boom and eliminate risk in otherwise scary matchups.

    • @zilosis3794
      @zilosis3794 Před rokem +5

      Do any pokemon aside claydol get that consistently?

    • @Cirrio01
      @Cirrio01 Před rokem +5

      ​@@zilosis3794 bronzong

    • @Dragonoid269
      @Dragonoid269 Před rokem +19

      Or you could use a mon with damp, or a ghost type, or a quad resist like Aggron, or hope from protect luck. But yeah, though it is a niche it is valid, especially if you do not have the other options available.

    • @mykeyboardismelting6856
      @mykeyboardismelting6856 Před rokem +6

      Something I like to do is using imprison on a strong ghost pokemon with shadow ball to sweep a ghost gym leader/elite 4 (aka just shauntaul ngl)

    • @guedesbrawl
      @guedesbrawl Před 10 měsíci +1

      You can also use Imprison to give them no choice BUT to explode, which is hilariously dark

  • @DNPsharp11
    @DNPsharp11 Před rokem +494

    This is the only youtube channel ever that I don't immediately skip through the ads

  • @yuvalwh
    @yuvalwh Před rokem +123

    Encore is one of the best moves ever, its so useful when a boss fight just tries to sweep your ass right from the start

  • @robbyraymond9047
    @robbyraymond9047 Před rokem +200

    I actually have seen a good Imprison strat. In the final Mt. Battle fight of XD, the final boss has a Dusclops with Imprison, Protect, Ice Beam, and Shadow Ball. The three moves it imprisons can really set back your strategies while in effect. Protect is just a really good double battle move in this game with only double battles, Shadow Ball is good against Dusclops itself as well as his Latias and Latios, and Ice Beam is good on the aforementioned Eon duo as well as his Salamence.

    • @TheForgottenTainted
      @TheForgottenTainted Před rokem +1

      Taunt

    • @GyroNutz
      @GyroNutz Před rokem +10

      @@TheForgottenTainted Taunt sucks in gen 3, only lasting 2 turns iirc

    • @raghavthombare3895
      @raghavthombare3895 Před rokem +2

      So that's why this is quite hard game to deal with
      Btw Pokemon company needs to give attention to these games too

    • @mr.sandman7339
      @mr.sandman7339 Před rokem +3

      I'm doing a playthrough of XD and this Dusclops strat also happens in a battle in Orre Colosseum. It's cool seeing it actually work (but also part of why my Walrein has both ice beam and blizzard). It's refreshing to see something different considering how much AI teams rely on confusion/para as their whole strategy in some of those battles (and it works when they do it!).

    • @iss2075
      @iss2075 Před rokem +1

      @@mr.sandman7339 Yeah also in Battle Revolution there are also some interesting Imprison movesets that the opponents use. The game designers always put Protect on the moveset as well if its double battles lol. These games were made before VGC or anything I believe, but they clearly understood how good Protect was back then.

  • @jellomochas
    @jellomochas Před rokem +250

    The following moves were mentioned during the ad (spoiler)
    Poison Gas
    Sweet Scent
    Aromatic Mist
    Mist (D tier)
    Life Dew
    Nightmare
    Grudge
    Miracle Eye
    Electrify
    Laser Focus
    Splash
    Embargo
    Flower Shield
    Power Swap
    Power Split
    Guard Swap
    Power Shift
    [he said Guard Shift here but I think he meant Guard Split]
    Power Trick
    Trick (C tier)
    Lock-On
    Crafty Shield
    Telekenesis
    Magic Room
    Swallow
    Celebrate
    Mind Reader
    Assist
    Happy Hour
    Hold Hands
    Magnetic Flux
    Unmentioned F-tier moves include Supersonic.

  • @darklightning2730
    @darklightning2730 Před rokem +84

    For number one, there is also Shift Gear, which is just a better Dragon Dance, so maybe that deserves to be at number one as well despite not many Pokémon being able to learn it.

    • @oracle0_
      @oracle0_ Před rokem +4

      I was about to say that

    • @darklightning2730
      @darklightning2730 Před rokem +7

      @@oracle0_ You could say I’ve used the move Mind Reader.

    • @Subatomicfish
      @Subatomicfish Před rokem +30

      And soon Victory Dance, a physical version of Quiver Dance. Only Hisuian Liligant gets it, but still.

    • @darklightning2730
      @darklightning2730 Před rokem +2

      @@Subatomicfish Weirdly enough, if you look up the move Victory Dance on Bulbapedia, it shows Iron Hands using it.

    • @Subatomicfish
      @Subatomicfish Před rokem +18

      @@darklightning2730 that’s just because it was used via Metronome which Iron Hands can be taught

  • @sirlagsalot1387
    @sirlagsalot1387 Před rokem +75

    You managed to get me to watch an entire ad read just to hear the pokemon moves, genius

  • @Voidbear_FNaF_and_Undertale

    with Imprison I feel like a strategy that could be fun if you're doing a randomizer if if you get both imprison and transform. You use Imprison and then transform into your opponent, which makes them unable to do anything but struggle.

    • @MercuryA2000
      @MercuryA2000 Před rokem +1

      Wait it works like that?!?!

    • @byeguyssry
      @byeguyssry Před rokem +12

      ​@@MercuryA2000 yep! Mew can use this strat (I'm not sure if only in one or a few generations tho) since it learns both moves.

    • @amale441
      @amale441 Před rokem +3

      @@byeguyssry Yeah, it got banned in the smogon 1v1 format because of that IIRC

  • @conradthe2
    @conradthe2 Před rokem +16

    An idea why lucky chant is niche:
    In situations where crits really matter, it's usually also the case that you don't have enough tempo to waste a turn on preventing said crit; also, 5 turns might be too short, but also permanent would be kinda broken
    just thoughts

  • @zacharyyoungblood7013
    @zacharyyoungblood7013 Před rokem +25

    Leech seed is even better than you give it credit, since it can be stacked with paralysis, burn, or sleep, which no other good status move can!

    • @dropfish3109
      @dropfish3109 Před rokem

      not you, confusion

    • @zacharyyoungblood7013
      @zacharyyoungblood7013 Před rokem +1

      ​@@dropfish3109 I mean fair... but all common confusion moves have terrible accuracy, rarely work, and lasts at most 3-4 turns. Attract is better confusion and attract is terrible.

  • @deadface19
    @deadface19 Před rokem +12

    That ad section was well done. I usually skip that. But I was so focused on finding each move I didn't realize I've been had until it was too late.

  • @hackspazygamer
    @hackspazygamer Před rokem +11

    That Yu-Gi_oh comment made me smile at the 10 minute mark. Unfortunately, field spells don't exactly work like that anymore, and each player can control their own field spell.
    You have to specifically take theirs off the field by destroying it or some other interesting means.

  • @marcustulliuscicero5443
    @marcustulliuscicero5443 Před rokem +17

    The only use I ever found for Disable was against B2W2 Challenge Mode Cheren, where Golduck can disable his Pidove's only damage move, Quick Attack.

  • @priestesslucy3299
    @priestesslucy3299 Před rokem +42

    Laser Focus is the move that guarantees a crit the next attack right?
    It's not a great move, but it can be used to keep an enemy from healing. You don't always have the option to use a move that would just not do enough damage to keep the target out of healing range.
    Also, guaranteed bypassing Amnesia/Iron Defense/Cosmic Power stacks can come in handy

    • @athath2010
      @athath2010 Před rokem +10

      ain't that just glorified leer once the 2x -> 1.5x crit nerf became a thing?

    • @priestesslucy3299
      @priestesslucy3299 Před rokem +18

      @@athath2010 Valid. But it is nice that Laser Focus still works even if the foe switches and also has the Defense Buff Bypass attribute.
      And has its effect for both attacking stats, so it's debatably better for a mixed attacker than Leer
      I never claimed it was _good_ but it feels better than completely useless = F tier to me

    • @TWLSpark
      @TWLSpark Před rokem +4

      ​@@priestesslucy3299 I don't think it's useless, just redundant more often than not. For instance, in the example you gave about it working even if the opponent switches, you're getting the same value by just attacking twice (once on the switch, then again for, presumably, the KO).
      I think its best possible application is against Calm Mind or Curse sweepers that have set up quite a bit, but that might often end up with you trading a Pokemon for that chance (the user) almost consistently. This is more or less a desperate strategy to avoid wiping, though, so I don't think you should be always relying on it.
      In my opinion, high F tier or low E is good enough.

    • @priestesslucy3299
      @priestesslucy3299 Před rokem +4

      @@TWLSpark basically, it's a medium term move.
      Something I would be happy to replace Tackle or Pound or scratch with, but it's not sticking on the moveset long term

  • @extrakrispy81
    @extrakrispy81 Před rokem +34

    It's been a while since I've watched a video of yours. You've got a lot better at making them since last year. I agree with pretty much this whole list. I would put thunder web in A because cutting speed is huge but I realize its not always the play.

  • @hudsonbeaudry6760
    @hudsonbeaudry6760 Před rokem +9

    Dude you are getting so good at this CZcams thing. You’ve grown SOOO much over the last year it’s crazy.

  • @dodge7246
    @dodge7246 Před rokem +8

    Though I've started a lot of Nuzlockes, the only one I actually finished was Omega Ruby
    In which I swept Wallace with a Quiver Dance Beautifly. Dumbass leads with a Luvdisc, he had it coming
    That Beautifly reached the Hall of Fame, too. Quiver Dance is Fair and Balanced (tm) (C) (R)

  • @grunklesam787
    @grunklesam787 Před rokem +11

    I once used a Lucky Chant Clefable to set up for a sweep with Drapion against Riley on Iron Island in Renegade Platinum. It was a nice way to make the strat more consistent, though the move as a whole is pretty niche,

    • @serpent2776
      @serpent2776 Před rokem

      Doesn't Drapion get Battle Armor?

    • @grunklesam787
      @grunklesam787 Před rokem

      @@serpent2776 Yes, it does. My plan was to lower Riley's lead pokemon (an absol) with Intimidate Gyarados + Staraptor and Feather Dance Chatot. However, to switch around my attack dropping mons, I needed to use Lucky Chant to protect them from crits. So I did, and it worked.

  • @Shmandalf
    @Shmandalf Před rokem +23

    I had a Miltank with Attract during a hardcore nuzlocke a few years ago. She carried me through _alot_ of fights, its such a broken move in the gen 2 remakes lol.

    • @GreatDG
      @GreatDG Před rokem +1

      Why did whitney change her name?

    • @melvint-p9500
      @melvint-p9500 Před rokem +1

      Shoutouts to red rescue team where attracts works on every pokemon and has 100%proc rate.

  • @PredictableEnigma
    @PredictableEnigma Před rokem +11

    It's crazy to me how different nuzelocks are to competitive in terms of what's valuable

  • @nooobiechild
    @nooobiechild Před rokem +5

    That magnetic flux line was hilarious af. Jan has drastically improved on how to do sponsor messages.

  • @nightmare62089
    @nightmare62089 Před rokem +8

    I wonder where he would've put Shed Tail. Substitute with a safe switch? Hell of a move. Same for Revival Blessing.

  • @ParasaurolophusZ
    @ParasaurolophusZ Před rokem

    I got to see about half of your original stream doing these rankings live on Twitch. Really fun list.
    Also wow, many props to fitting in (almost) all those move names in the ad. That was pretty great.

  • @donjuanmagic0073
    @donjuanmagic0073 Před rokem +8

    PChal's script writing has been improving so much

  • @shadeknight6537
    @shadeknight6537 Před rokem +6

    Swagger does have a niche over other Confusion moves by pairing well with Foul Play, though that's a high-risk, high-reward strat. If I was completely subjective, I'd put whichever is the Swagger clone that raises Sp. Attack in F tier because it completely missed the point of Swagger. Confusion damage doesn't take Sp. Attack into account, so raising it on your opponent is pointless, except now you've doubled their Sp. Attack, so they can more easily kill you. It's useless on physical attackers, and special attackers only benefit somewhat from it. It's just a garbage move.

    • @You-hp3rl
      @You-hp3rl Před rokem

      The point is that it's a 100% acc that doesn't boost atk, so u can use it safely on phiscal attackers,

    • @shadeknight6537
      @shadeknight6537 Před rokem +1

      @@You-hp3rl There's already a move like that, it's called Confuse Ray.

    • @GyroNutz
      @GyroNutz Před rokem

      Swagger can also be used in creative doubles setups with some way of preventing status (e.g. Persim Berry, Safeguard, Own Tempo), giving your teammate a free permanent x2 attack. In comparison, Helping Hand gives a one-time 1.5x boost, though it also has the benefits of being priority + boosting special attack + not requiring a setup. Still, it has a legit niche.

  • @TheCrow938
    @TheCrow938 Před rokem +2

    In playthroughs I do not often use non attacking moves but Quiver Dance, Dragon Dance, and Calm Mind if available I use them. It is only for Randomizers but I once had a Simple Espeon and used Calm Mind on it and it was unbeatable.

  • @danieljay6196
    @danieljay6196 Před rokem +17

    Great vid, I would argue putting simple beam higher than C tier because of what it can do for an ally. Understandably a niche situation but getting a simple beam on your ally to use a swords dance or anything similar can be huge

  • @ritasonka330
    @ritasonka330 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I was WONDERING where Dragon Dance and Quiver Dance were (I forgot about Shell Smash) in your setup list! I immediately paused the video and wrote a comment down here asking how on earth you missed those two when I saw the setup list. I didn't post it because it was so unbelievable to me that you'd forget Dragon Dance, I figured there must have been some twist. I'm glad I waited.

  • @luirromenjivar1390
    @luirromenjivar1390 Před rokem +4

    I would argue that Toxic Spikes are better than any other hazard on Nuzlockes, since you can scout before the battle what your opp has, if they lack a Poison type to absorb em can be insanely good.

    • @GyroNutz
      @GyroNutz Před rokem +1

      I personally disagree, the ability of Stealth Rocks to take away up to half of a Pokemon's health just by switching in is unparalleled. There's a lot of Pokemon who will be immune to Toxic Spikes outside of Poison types, but no Pokemon can avoid taking Stealth Rocks damage (aside from Magic Guard users)

  • @guedesbrawl
    @guedesbrawl Před rokem +2

    Trick is unironically WAY stronger in rom hacks once you have the resource to "farm" choice items. You can just trick a choice item into the opponent then use them as setup fodder. There's some bulky mons like Slowbro and Bronzong that can learn it, too (unlike i dunno, Lucky Chant which is mostly on frail shit)

    • @aidanspence1178
      @aidanspence1178 Před rokem

      You don't lose the item after battle in Gen 5+, so you don't even need to do that in those gens.

  • @oscarelieff4219
    @oscarelieff4219 Před rokem +1

    9:42 I CANNOT BELIEVE THIS VIDEO IS BROUGHT THE SAME DAY AARON ZHENG LOST IN TOP 4 TO A WILL O WISP MISS AGAIN, 10 YEARS LATER

  • @PikachuPlays
    @PikachuPlays Před rokem +1

    Generally confusion is pretty bad on its own, but I've found a nice use case for it when synergized with sand attack on early-game Umbreon sets. I ran crunch, sand attack, confuse ray, moonlight in renplat and it was nice for when you wanted to reduce attacking odds as much as possible for a setup sweeper

  • @michaelcitrino5339
    @michaelcitrino5339 Před rokem +4

    I personally prefer to have a good offensive spread rather than any status moves but I do see the value in them for those who wish to use them. For the most part I can agree with your placements except for one that I noticed. At 18:08 I see mimic in D tier. I listen to nuzlockes a lot while i work and the status move i hear the most is Mimic, Rest, and Protect combos. In gen 1 + 2 just add Return and you have a set almost anyone can win the game with. If this ranking is just for nuzlockes like the title suggests then I believe you should put mimic much higher, at least B if not A tier. There are a surprising number of trainers out there that have a move on their first pokemon that can almost sweep their teams.

  • @thebiggergazza4042
    @thebiggergazza4042 Před rokem +1

    Nice wideo showing the power of powerless moves Jan!
    I’m doing a little Locke of XY and I often use Flabébé to tank and support my teams with lucky chant and wish, Trickroom with Execute and hazards with Tentacool or Tyrunt.
    I’m about to fight the 5th gym and I’ll need to use a specially defensive Goldeen (with Wacan berry and pre-poisoned to avoid paralysis) to break sturdy on Magneton using hail (in case my accuracy is dropped by Mirror shot)

  • @altariamotives16
    @altariamotives16 Před rokem +5

    I used Encore/Disable strats against Fantina's Mismagius in my recent Platinum run, v fun

  • @ekereus9037
    @ekereus9037 Před rokem +2

    All moves I found
    -Poison Gas
    -Sweet Scent
    -Aromatic Mist
    -Nightmare
    -Grudge
    -Electrify
    -Laser Focus
    -Splash
    -Embargo
    -Flower Shield
    -Power Swap
    -Power Split
    -Guard Swap
    -Power Shift
    -Power Trick
    -Lock On
    -Crafty Shield
    -Telekinesis
    -Magic Room
    -Swallow
    -Celebrate
    -Mind Reader
    -Assist
    -Happy Hour
    -Hold Hands
    -Magnetic Flux
    I'm missing one (Maybe guard shift?)

  • @gavinrollot6426
    @gavinrollot6426 Před rokem +2

    Ok I got all 27 F tier Status Moves (+ bonuses) 1.Poison Gas (Poisons Pokémon 55% in early games but 90% in later games) 2. Sweet Scent (lowers target's evasiveness thus making low accuracy moves more viable, not F tier imo FlygonHG used it in once of his nuzlockes, 3. Aromatic Mist ( Raises ally Sp.Def by 1 stage), 4. Nightmare ( when target is 😴 this move will dmg the target like Sand Tomb will), 5. Grudge ( like Destiny Bond but the opponent loses all PP of the killing move instead of dying) 6. Miracle Eye ( allows Psychic Type moves to hit Dark Types) 7. Electrify ( makes opposing Pokémon moves into Electric Type moves) (Potential?) 8,9,10. Laser Focus, Lock-On, Mind Reader ( next move will not miss ) ( not F-tier imo cuz OHKO cheese) 11. Splash ( Omegalul), 12. Embargo ( opponent can't use held items for 5 turns) 13. Power Swap ( user and opponent swap Atk and Sp.Atk ) ( has potential imo) 14. Guard Swap ( like Power Swap but for defenses). 15. Power Split ( causes Atk and Sp.Atk of the user and opponent to average, Stat boosts don't count), 16. Guard Split ( like Power Split but for defenses ) 17. Power Shift ( switches Atk with Def and Sp.Atk with Sp.Def opponent) 18. Trick ( swaps item with Target, not F-tier cuz you can give the opponent a sh!t item ) 19. Craft Shield ( protect user's team from any status moves during that turn and has priority) 20. Telekinesis ( allows for target to get hit 100% of the time from any non OHKO move) 21. Swallow ( will heal depending on how many Stockpiles are set up) 22. Hold Hands (🙂), 23. Magnetic Flux ( Raises Def and Sp.Def for any Pokémon with a Plus or Minus ability ), 24. Power Trick ( Makes own Atk and Def Stat swap) (Shuckle Sweep???) 25. Happy Hours ( doubles Prize $ at the end of a battle, not F tier because you can use it to buy more key items) 26. Assist ( Metronome but for all the moves in your party ) 27. Flower Shield ( I forgor but it's trash trust) Bonuses: SuperSonic (55% confusion), Spit Up ( like swallow but for dmg), Celebrate ( 🥳), Magic Room ( No item usage for 5 turns ), aaaand Life Dew ( 25% heal to user and ally)
    If you actually read all or most of this, you're an actual G. ❤️❤️❤️

  • @Helegnaro
    @Helegnaro Před rokem

    Loved the concise information, and some background music from Phoenix wright.

  • @user-uv2cp1qd1j
    @user-uv2cp1qd1j Před rokem +1

    Mr Challenges,
    You forgot to mention that sleep activates guts. Which means sleep talk can select a guts boosted move.
    In smogon singles, recently I’ve played and have seen a lot of Eviolite Guts rest talk Ursaring. With facade and usually EQ. Although in a nuzlocke you could obviously pre sleep so the opportunities are even greater.

  • @Father_Bohawk
    @Father_Bohawk Před rokem +1

    So I have used Trick before as an easy win condition.
    Against Totem Mimikyu in UM, used Trick from Metang to give Totem a Black Sludge, then used protect and pivoting to wait it out and then take out the Bannette after it was down and couldn't call Jelli
    Very niche but I would say giving your opponent a damaging item while taking their useful item is at least feasible in the right circumstances

  • @pkzammy666
    @pkzammy666 Před rokem +4

    That ad read was legendary.
    I need to touch grass cuz I knew every move mentioned. Even the harder to catch ones 😂

  • @scrubplaceholder6216
    @scrubplaceholder6216 Před rokem +1

    Sweet scent to ensure sleep powder hits is a solid strategy for setting up bulk up for example.
    Or 2 sweet scent, sleep powder, and flash in order to make flash never miss. Then set-up.

    • @Rictavio27
      @Rictavio27 Před rokem +4

      Yeah, but that does take up 3/4s of your move slots and multiple turns. Unless the Pokémon your facing doesn’t deal a lot of damage, it’s very risky

    • @iamcoolkinda
      @iamcoolkinda Před rokem

      The goat HM slave move set
      Cut
      Flash
      Sleep powder
      Sweet scent
      I can’t tell you how many battles this shitty move set has carried me through

  • @Jay-gurl
    @Jay-gurl Před rokem

    I began nuzlocking last year for fun and learned the value of status/setup moves. Sand-attack, double team, screech, sleep powder and bulk up have come in clutch so many times

  • @StarfieldDisarray
    @StarfieldDisarray Před rokem +7

    10:32 Field Spells haven't worked like this in like 10 years but god they probably need to bring that rule back, it was a good idea at the time but not so much now.

  • @richardsoria1547
    @richardsoria1547 Před 11 měsíci

    Bro you got me back into pokemon and the last few SV and PLA are bangers

  • @ShinyGBZ
    @ShinyGBZ Před rokem +2

    Pchal truly innovating the ad game lmfao

  • @eliyaskiya
    @eliyaskiya Před rokem

    All moves hidden in the ad read for anyone wondering
    - Poison Gas
    - Sweet Scent
    - Aromatic Mist ( and Mist )
    - Nightmare
    - Grudge
    - Electrify
    - Laser Focus
    - Splash
    - Embargo
    - Power Swap
    - Power Split
    - Guard Swap
    - Power Shift
    - Guard Shift*
    - Power Trick ( and Trick )
    - Lock On
    - Crafty Shield
    - Telekinesis ( and Kinesis )
    - Magic Room
    - Swallow
    - Celebrate
    - Mind Reader
    - Assist
    - Happy Hour
    - Hold Hands
    - Magnetic Flux
    I'm pretty sure by Guard Shift he meant Guard Split

  • @batata2818
    @batata2818 Před rokem +3

    Flygon HG used lucky chant in his ultra sun and moon nuzloke, on the first olivia battle

  • @estimatedmedian
    @estimatedmedian Před rokem +3

    Big fan of the recent scripts. Really helpful list as well, thanks Jan!

  • @Marblegamingmaster
    @Marblegamingmaster Před rokem

    20:18 PChal, I agree. I think the best toxic stall strat is with Pyukumuku. Toxic, Recover, Protect, and then one other move.

    • @jaimereupert4247
      @jaimereupert4247 Před 7 měsíci

      I'll try that in Pokémon Infinite Fusion. I have a couple of Pyukumuku fusions. Pyukumuku/Pineco and Pyukumuku/Mimejr.

  • @Maki-Hosomaki
    @Maki-Hosomaki Před rokem +2

    You literaly posted a minute after I lost my black 2 nuzlock

  • @dustinpilon2258
    @dustinpilon2258 Před rokem +1

    I always love when I'm messing around in Pokémon showdown and someone quits the battle after my wheezing hits a clear smog following their sword dance or nasty plot. Makes me laugh every time

  • @misterpenguin143
    @misterpenguin143 Před rokem +1

    That ad read would be perfect but I couldn't tell you what it was for because I was only listening for the moves

  • @101damnations7
    @101damnations7 Před rokem

    I have used Lucky Chant on a Pokémon once. A vanilla nuzelocke of Pokémon White. My Musharna. I had caught it in the Dreamyard while trying to find an Audino, because I wanted to remove it from the encounter pool to route for other shaking grass encounters. But it really came in clutch. Ghetsis fight, lost Serperior to N’s Zekrom crit, and have barely survived the assaults of Ghetsis’s mons, including a close win against the Hydreigon before losing a mon to Seismatoad in the rain. The Musharna came in clutch, being too bulky to kill in the rain without a crit, and setting up Lucky Chants along with dealing slow damage and using Recover, I won the day.
    I would lose Musharna to some BS later, and eventually win the nuzelocke with a merry band of misfits clambered together with my remaining encounters, but that is the one time I’ve ever had Lucky Chant be useful. And it wasn’t even integral to some important strategy.
    I think the move is seen as a waste of a slot unless under very specific circumstances, since crits can’t be planned for, and may be dismissed as a risk worth taking in comparison to a more useful move.

  • @darkshot4424
    @darkshot4424 Před rokem +7

    Trick does very little, but it has a very niche use in some little locke runs with the sticky barb.

    • @You-hp3rl
      @You-hp3rl Před rokem

      U dont use trick, u just use a contact move

    • @greenapple9477
      @greenapple9477 Před rokem

      @@You-hp3rl Either works.

    • @You-hp3rl
      @You-hp3rl Před rokem

      Every mon has a t least a contact move.
      this isnt true for trick

  • @hekirb3382
    @hekirb3382 Před rokem +2

    I was waiting for quiver dance to show up and when he announced #1 I was like "Did I miss it? There's no way it's better than stuff like protect!"

  • @brendanelmer3305
    @brendanelmer3305 Před rokem

    Thanks Jan this was extremely helpful since I've just dove head first into emerald rogue 👍

  • @Matty2Saints
    @Matty2Saints Před rokem

    the old jan would’ve just had the tierlisting stream edited down. love this video

  • @killiantruegames3670
    @killiantruegames3670 Před rokem +1

    Wow, haven’t heard someone mention the old field spell rules in a while outside of retrospectives or playoff series. Since 2014 both players are able to have field spells on the field at the same time.

  • @dustinpilon2258
    @dustinpilon2258 Před rokem

    First ad read in a long time I didn't skip. "I need a shield. Swap." That was good 😂

  • @marsiumouse
    @marsiumouse Před rokem

    0:37 I love how the world will never forget about pilot's death

  • @pathos7527
    @pathos7527 Před rokem +1

    I would personally add Curse in with Quiver Dance, Dragon Dance and Shell Smash. The Mons you want to use it on, slow and bulky non-Ghost types, can benefit from all three of those changes; the Speed drop part doesn’t matter at worst but at best, it can actually be an asset by boosting moves that take advantage of slower Speed anyway, like Gyro Ball.

    • @Dragonoid269
      @Dragonoid269 Před rokem +1

      It is usually a worse bulk up (though for slow mons it is practically the same, and indeed in rare cases the speed drop can be an asset). Bulk up was placed lower then these 3 for good reason, thus curse should not be on the same tier as those three moves..

  • @ryanwells137
    @ryanwells137 Před rokem

    Luvdisc gets Charm and Lucky Chant pretty early making it surprisingly useful throughout the game to nerf an enemy into the dirt and then switch in a pokemon that can set up with basically no risk. Only way I could find to use lucky chant.

  • @oblisake
    @oblisake Před rokem

    Checked it out within ten mins of upload, love the vids!

  • @guedesbrawl
    @guedesbrawl Před rokem

    Psycho Shift actually has one decent niche in games where sash is affordable: If you lead with an user of that move that has a focus sash, you can go in pre-burned and guarantee the burn. This is good if you can't afford to stay in with a will-o-wisp user

  • @xiphonxephr
    @xiphonxephr Před rokem +1

    Now that you mention it, Imprison on the right mon can straight up gimp most psychic and ghost users is you have access to the moves at that point in the game. This gets stronger depending on where in each game your move tutor is and whether or not tms are reusable/if you can get tms/trs easy. Lets say you're very weak against Psychic with what you've caught and you're about to fight tate and liza; I think its very possible to build say a gardevoir with their mons' most threatening moves and just make the fight a cakewalk since I'm pretty sure Imprison doesn't affect how AIs target (I could be wrong on this but I dont think i am, at least with gen 3 ai)

    • @Azun_Kurone
      @Azun_Kurone Před rokem

      Imprison prevents the moves from being clicked, starting on the turn after you imprison. so it's not as good as, say, a fairy with follow me into dragons, but still very good

  • @Lavamites25
    @Lavamites25 Před rokem

    Have to say, Jan is getting interesting with ad reads. This is the first in a long time I haven't skipped from any content creator

  • @kittentamer2164
    @kittentamer2164 Před rokem

    I have to date only come up with 1 use of Magic Room. Pre Fairy Type Togekiss. If you Magic Room and have a choice Item upon swapping into magic room, like Choice Band, you don't get locked into your move until Magic Room comes back.
    This means you can run set up moves, like Work Up on Togekiss. Now, normally this isn't that great, but Choice Band, Hustle, and +1-2's in Attack all **Multiply** rather than add their bonuses together. Suddenly, when Magic Room wears off, Extremespeed Togekiss is actually extremely scary. Hitting MUCH harder than you'd expect.
    EDIT: I know what you're thinking. "Why not just baton pass to Togekiss." AND YOU'D BE SURPRISED!
    YOU'RE RIGHT!
    Actually, that aside, there's some weird nuance here. Magic Room is guaranteed to disrupt the enemy team, and yours, unless you build around it. Baton Pass sorta does its own thing, so Magic Room has potential, I swear, except, it kinda isn't that great of potential yet.

  • @claireclearwater-gs9zc

    Pokémon Challenges made a super engaging ad read, this is probably one of the few ad reads that viewers may analyze word by word or even take notes on! What a steal for the company.

  • @STDynamite8008
    @STDynamite8008 Před rokem

    Actually burst out laughing so much during that ad read
    😂😂😂

  • @Bucky_Buckster
    @Bucky_Buckster Před rokem

    Awesome video and great ad read! Very creative!

  • @Spacey75257
    @Spacey75257 Před rokem +1

    crafty shield and magic room in the ad were very clever

  • @haydenbowen7338
    @haydenbowen7338 Před rokem

    The most goated ad reads on CZcams and it's not even close! You're the best Jan

  • @sagacious03
    @sagacious03 Před rokem

    I would love to hear about the cases for some of the moves you just mentioned in that reading! (Not that it wasn't creative.) After all, some of them have their niches, terrible as those niche may be, if they're even applicable in in-game. For example, Assist was the core of a competitive strategy built around using only moves that Assist can call.
    Anyway, decent analysis video! Thanks for uploading!

  • @okey7281
    @okey7281 Před rokem

    I love the clip you put to represent your thousands of hours of experience

  • @Firedonify
    @Firedonify Před rokem

    It's weird to see some of the missing moves, like topsy turvy when talking about things like haze, or dragon dance and quiver dance with the setup moves. Though I didn't expect the top 5 at the end, so at least the last two are a moot point.

  • @dovewingseyesaregreen5664

    Last but I'll admit, I'm still not very good about using set up moves, most set up I do is inflicting status like toxic or thunder waving (I prefer nuzzle even with the low damage, better than nothing honestly). That said, it was my strategy for a snaplocke on the first gym where I only had Oshawott and Azurill. I thought for sure I'd lose Pokemon there and possibly lose since I didn't want to face Roxanne without any of my few encounters I had before her gym. That's when I checked what Charm reduced: attack. I knew I had to worry about Work-Up, but to reduce it at the same time as him trying to raise it? It seemed like such a non-issue suddenly. I don't remember how many times I had to use it but after Azurill finally got to low health from spamming nothing but Charm, I switch to Oshawott and cleanly take out the ace. I gained a lot of respect for Azurill and Charm that day.
    I did ditch the run after failing the next two encounters because there was no way I could pull a win like that again, I had no faith. I do want to go back some day to do a snaplocke proper (not a trashlocke under a different name) and I'll be so happy to get another Azurill (but would have still liked that Riolu I could have also nabbed).

  • @tidezinzoh8426
    @tidezinzoh8426 Před rokem +1

    I do say that Stealth Rock is a low A tier hazard move do to the fact they they actually deal due to type advantage so you can hit scary Pokémon that are 4x weak to rock like a quiver dancing masquerain or a SD Scyther

    • @M4x_P0w3r
      @M4x_P0w3r Před rokem +1

      On romhacks where the AI actually switches if its at a disadvantage Stealth Rock becomes almost S tier because it can deal damage multiple times if you play your cards correctly with switches

  • @lennartstockl5826
    @lennartstockl5826 Před rokem +1

    10:38 someone hasn't played Yu-Gi-Oh in a LONG time.

  • @mr.tapman8685
    @mr.tapman8685 Před rokem

    I love that when he said “I’m a professional nuzlocker with hours of experience” he shows the clip of Pilot dying in the EK run

  • @connorr8071
    @connorr8071 Před rokem

    I honestly keep forgetting that Assist exists, but I actually really like using it when I can. My Liepard with Assist, in particular, was actually pretty fun to use.

  • @AquamarineVGC
    @AquamarineVGC Před rokem

    Just started the video and gotta give props to Jan for the unique ad segment!

  • @obvalenvee338
    @obvalenvee338 Před rokem +2

    Jan, I swear you have the best ad reads I’ve ever seen.

  • @damianblu
    @damianblu Před rokem

    Just beat Blaine in an Infinite Fusion playthrough by using encore on its Roar, then Leech Seed when swapped. Kept using encore on it when it cycled back in and let it die to the chip damage. So hilarious.

  • @missmoss4641
    @missmoss4641 Před rokem

    Holy heck, I've never stayed through an ad before. Bravo!

  • @awesomedragon5614
    @awesomedragon5614 Před rokem +1

    Laser Focus could have a useful niche in blocking defense buffs from the opponent, not a great move, but not F tier

  • @Dragonoid269
    @Dragonoid269 Před rokem

    I'd probably put roost with the other healing moves, primarily as whilst it is slightly better I don't feel it is a whole tier's worth of better (in most situations you'll either won't need the drop your flying type to wall something, or it'll be useful for some topping off your hp a little but you'll still want to either be able to OHKO or want to switch out as few mons easily tank a super effective move should it crit)

  • @javierbarrera_ix-xiv-vi-x

    All of the F-Tier status moves in order because I can:
    1. Poison Gas
    2. Sweet Scent
    3. Aromatic Mist
    4. Nightmare
    5. Grudge
    6. Miracle Eye
    7. Electrify
    8. Laser Focus
    9. Splash
    10. Embargo
    11. Flower Shield
    12. Power Swap
    13. Power Split
    14. Guard Swap
    15. Power Shift
    16. Power Trick
    17. Lock-On
    18. Crafty Shield
    19. Telekinesis
    20. Magic Room
    21. Swallow
    22. Celebrate
    23. Mind Reader
    24. Assist
    25. Happy Hour
    26. Hold Hands
    27. Magnetic Flux

  • @GuyWatsonGaming
    @GuyWatsonGaming Před rokem

    Best ad read on the channel, by far. Nicely done Jan

  • @alexread6767
    @alexread6767 Před rokem

    The ad read was hilarious. I only heard 24 moves, so I'm gonna assume I missed Focus Energy. Especially since Laser Focus was on there.
    Laser Focus has the tiniest of niches of MAYBE being your best option for Totem Ribombee, since other set up moves are usually better but Ribombee loves to boost its Sp Def.
    I so wanted there to be synergy with Sniper, but the only way to get Sniper+Laser Focus it is to trade, allow SOS Chaining for your first encounter and grind through dozens of Spearow or Fearow until one has its Hidden Ability and then use the USUM Tutor, or use Horsea on Isle of Armor. So... yeah, no Sniper.
    I don't get why Poison Gas was on there, though. I didn't hear Poison Powder listed, and Poison Gas is just slightly better than that as of Gen V.
    And I also just kinda like Nightmare. Even if it's impractical and barely anything learns it.

  • @unovasfinest2623
    @unovasfinest2623 Před rokem

    10/10 ad read. You actually got me to watch it 😂

  • @LovJinxx
    @LovJinxx Před rokem

    Wow it seems that rivailry with Alpharad really paid off with upgrading the ad reads, this one was really impressive!!

  • @Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy

    These are the ones I heard in the ad
    Poison Gas
    Sweet Scent
    Aromatic (Mist)
    Nightmare
    Grudge
    Electrify
    Laser Focus
    Splash
    Embargo
    Power Swap
    Power Split
    Guard Split
    Lock On
    Telekinesis
    Swallow
    Celebrate
    Mind Reader
    Assist
    Happy Hour
    Hold Hands
    Mangetic Flu-

  • @YosiahW
    @YosiahW Před rokem

    Dragon dance S tier, perhaps? One or two of those and you can sweep with ease. Pairing that with a wish user to set up a free dance on immune switch in like Flygon, Dragapult, Hydreigon, Duraludon, Dragonite, Appletun, etc.

  • @HeyZeusy
    @HeyZeusy Před rokem

    loving the Persona music in the background