London Grammar's Hannah Reid on sexism in the music industry
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- čas přidán 23. 04. 2021
- It's the hit album which almost never happened. Hannah Reid says years of misogyny in a male dominated industry almost drove her to quit music for good. (Subscribe: bit.ly/C4_News_Subscribe)
But now her band London Grammar are back at the top of the charts with their new album Californian Soil.
A record which Reid says has been inspired by those very experiences - She's been talking to our reporter Anja Popp.
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She literally has one of the best voices I have ever heard ✨
Hugely talented woman. Hugely talented band. Sad to hear Hannah had these problems. So glad she didn't quit.
Remember... it's channel 4...
They are partial (very partial) to propaganda 😉
And find her voice,she did. The new album is a masterpiece.
Hannah Reid, one of the strongest, smartest, and most honest people I know (of).
Any musician listening to Hannahs melodies, the way she surprises you, couldn't doubt her ear or her musicianship.
Even after I've listened to a LG song 20 times, I can't replicate the vocal melody exactly, because its complicated and original. It's not very predictable. That's the sign of creativity and musicianship.
It is a sad reflection on the music industry that having a beautiful woman in the band makes the music more marketable, but then they think that that is all Hannah is in the band for. Beautiful music.
On that specific point, that's simply the case male or female. Elvis was put on stage in tight jeans and made up too. Take That were all attractive boys etc.
She's a one in a generation talent.
Totally. Her writing as much as her singing.
You could see this what happened to Dua Lipa. When she just started she showed less skin than nowadays. Dua is super talented, no need to skin-sensualize herself.
'Trust Your Instincts' ❤️
Painfully shy, like Ellie Rowsell; I am so happy they both overcame this, with the help of band mates... WE are all the winners here!
Phillip MJ Bacon: Surprised to hear that ER is painfully shy! She comes across as quite the opposite. There's another great band, full of young, incredibly talented people!
She has one of the best voices in the biz right now. Absolutely outstanding artist who should be respected regardless of gender. I truly hope we get to a point soon where these boys clubs are a thing of the past
What is meant to be so good about males? I don't get it
Thanks for your amazing compilation so far, the sound is very enjoyable and I hope the suffering goes away.
I'm shocked to hear about the musician thing - loads of people can play guitar and keys/drums like the guys do, no one on earth can sing like Hannah.
You are amazing and the world benefits your light and courage. Yes, you reading this, you are equally important and special
Oh gosh, people just went mad when they found out she has HER OWN OPINION on this subject
Like she's not just a "blond girl with beautiful voice" but also a mature woman who face the real problem
Don't think people are going mad tbh. The journalists comments at the end of the interview were so damaging to women that it didn't seem real. Absolute tripe, the singer was making an artistic empowerment for women and then the journalist turned into a Liberal political point....There was no need, the singer says all that had to be said
Thanks for the wonderful concert in Nimes
Idk why you can't simply do both. I mean, anyone with eyes in their head can see that, yes, she's gorgeous, but anyone with functioning ears can also hear that she's got an amazing voice and is a fantastic singer and songwriter. It's like some people need a person to be one thing and one thing only; their brains cannot fathom the possibility that a pretty girl can also be talented and skilled.
Also, not to dismiss misoginy in the business, but some of this might also be related to dumb attitudes among people in the scene that singers aren't "real musicians". The same thing is often said about drummers and it is equally as stupid in that case. There's just a whole lot of gatekeeping among musicians and even music fans over who is "real" and who isn't and it is really small-minded and tiring.
Unfortunate she has been treated poorly and doubts herself. She is incredibly talented and hard working. Being treated poorly can lead to a cycle of being doubtful which other people feed off of and doubt you because of it even more. Hope she can learn to feel differently to how she deserves to feel. It is other people who should learn to accommodate her beauty and give her respect and privacy. I was always worried she would go off on her own because she is so good. Hope LG sticks together for a long time.
As an aspiring artist, I relate to her very deeply. I am studying Music but sometimes I feel very unaccomplished and incapable. The more you learn, the more you lose some confidence. Listening to her talking about it is so inspiring and it keeps me going. Thank U for this!
It’s great to hear Hannah realises to be heard you have to take the lead. Or others will and you may not enjoy their rule.
Your voice is stunning and haunting ❤️ I didn't know you felt any of those things or had to deal with so much 😔 I'll be honest, I didn't even think of it.(that's on me, different experiences as I guy I guess 😔) When I listen to your music, time stops, and all the world falls away. You're the only artist I've ever heard that completely transports me to another place where theres nothing else, only your music ❤️ thank you for that 🤗
I gave up so many opportunities for reasons along the lines of what is described here and worse, my instincts possibly kept me from a career, I am conflicted as to whether I regret that or not.
She’s is INCREDIBLE. What a WOMAN!!! Love you Hannah.
The reason for anyone not receiving equal regard is that it is a gift, not an entitlement. We are only entitled to the regard that people are willing to volunteer freely, We cannot legitimately demand it. When you do receive it be grateful and when you don't you are the same as everyone else, male or female. It is a gift, not a repayment
I don't think it is about regard. Its about intentional malicious obstruction.
@@jeremymanson1781 Not If you listen to the interview, it is about regard
I can see what you're saying about regard being something that is given rather than taken. But then again, people who are only willing to "freely volunteer" their regard to men, and not to equally talented women... those people are a$$holes, and she's quite right to call them out for behaving like that.
@@rfnaylor I totally agree Richard, she has no obligation to keep quiet. It would also be interesting to know if Hannah feels any responsibility to call it out when other attractive women disregard men.
Intense Pete: "regard" is not an entitlement, but "equity" is, and that's the whole point here.
Pyjamas on stage: stunning and brave.
I agree with discussions like this ..I think its healthy and important. I equally think talking about men and their struggles is important also like male suicide
Hello how are you doing today I hope you are having a great day today
Nobody gives two shits about male issues.
Hannah is incredible. Full stop.
This does not only happen in the music industry, it happens everywhere unless you only work with other women. Sad but true, and it’s a horrible feeling...
Women are just as bad, except they do it in a more conniving, covert way.
First of all she's gorgeous. Second of all she is extremely talented. Third of all I can't get rid of the goosebumps every time she sings. Any cure for that other than turn off the music?
For those commenting... remember...this is channel 4 😉
She's a fantastic musician. I would never let a mainstream outlet use me to push their agendas.
Well she's right about one thing, women do need to stand up for themselves and act more like men if they expect to be heard or taken seriously. I've never ever had a problem getting what I want because I've always been a tomboy and learned to be assertive quite early on. Men always listen to me, the problem I have is with women who are sadly only competitive with other women and keep us down. If you speak up, men will hear you. Women will try to find a way to shut you down.
London Grammar is only known because of her. I think they took her very seriously. She has super model looks. That's never a bad thing but yeah, they took her talent seriously. And look how smart and articulate she is. A stunning woman. Any man on earth would be incredibly impressed by her.
its known because of the writing. Look beyond beauty and cliches.
I love her. I love that she's talking about this.
I feel sad to hear that little has changed since the 70s, when women like myself were trying to challenge stereotypes of us in the music biz. Punk actively changed this for a while when we had incredible and unusual female artists like Ari Up, Siouxsie, Poly styrene, Lene lovich, Nina Hagen, Annie Lennox etc etc. Too many of today's female artists rely on auto-tuned vocals and overtly sexual appearance, and the music isn't even good lol! I love Hannah's voice, and hope she stays strong!
Great band and brave of her to speak out, glad she did. Love her, such a positive and amazingly talented person.
@Harry Waddington when you say everyone will "hate" you, do you mean there's a pandemic of Christian conservatives being killed? Because actually what's hateful is the global issue of male violence against women. That's actual hate. People disagreeing with your views is not hate. It's always brave when women speak up because we live in a patriarchy where men hold the majority of the wealth and power. Your comment is very "what about white men!?"
Love the talent of ALL the band members in London Grammar- there is something so special about these songs on Californian Soil. Let’s hope you get the rewards from your years of hard work & certainly we can ask for better standards in music for artists as Hannah speaks about here 💕
Great singer, in a great band, a woman of great intelligence and elegance, she is an example for modern women. Always stay like this and never give up. I always listen to this wonderful band.
I apologize for my imperfect English.
Hi Tiberio, Your English is superb, mate.
She is gifted with her voice no doubt about that! also a talented singer
Love her voice 😍😍😍😍
The guys music complements her voice and vise versa,Great band.
I try to emulate you when I sing, because you have an awesome voice and you use it well.
I can't sing as well as you though.
“If You Wait”. Wow. Beautiful. Brilliant.
Utterly unacceptable and I hope change is being made right now in the industry. Hannah seems like a strong person, but women in the music industry should not have to go through this.
cmon on, she was being a btch to the others, dominating them, when the guys were writing the songs. She had looks and the voice, but heck Paul Simon still ditched Garfunkel under the same scenario.
Not only in the music industry...
Wow she isn't only an artist she is a deep thinker
When someone's a bit dismissive to me I'll call it misandry and see how far I get.
Yup, blame men! even though her voice is fucking immense and has had me in tears at times! blame men! misogyny the lot! its quite ridiculous but I guess its her story!
Love her voice and their work, dont get pent up in the shite, just make pure music ffs
I suspect that there's a some kind of a general attitude like "singers aren't real musicians" in the industry. Because I don't know how else one could arrive at the opinion that women aren't good at music with so many prominent female singers. Like perhaps they don't treat anyone who doesn't play an instrument seriously.
A very talented lady, keep going and proving those that doubt you wrong, it's the best form of medicine.
Nottingham Uni!!!
Thanks for this!! I love Hannah's voice....very unique.....glad they have a new album ..look forward to hearing more....
You go lady! And your band mates too 🤗
The perfect human being
She's talented and gorgeous 😊
Hannah. Don't be concerned with the fools out there. You have a bunch load of support from many of us in Oz. Beautiful music and congrats on the new album. Well done to you all.
Id take it she wouldn't like Steel Panther.
They are a parody band, that highlights a lot of this stuff and their good fun, so I can't see why you'd think that😜
@@sjokkoladehjerte it was sarcasm
generalisation of males nullifies any important comment she’s trying to make
London grammar are currently my favourite noise, her experience is hers, that doesn’t exist in every walk way
I’m sick and tired of this rhetoric
Exactly
She is a talented beauty.
Hanna, push it, you disagreed for a long time.....
Show your lovely voice, you have it
sublime Hannah
The industry is not good for women however whenever I see London Grammar covered or interviewed the two male members are ignored like wallpaper. Hannah’s beauty does of course add star quality and if it wasn’t for this interview I’d think she had very little to complain about. Interesting nonetheless
But thats also a problem of the music industry, the lead singer spotlight in interviews i mean, cause that's not unique to this woman and i wonder if you would feel the same with a male lead singer. Since you pointed it out or noticed it with this band, but not mention that this is how most band interviews have gone for ages.
@@sjokkoladehjerte true that, the singer in a band always gets the spotlight in interviews since they are perceived literally as “the voice” of the band. It should be different but that’s all journalists s fault
Hannah, thank you for speaking up about this. It’s so important to talk about, and you’re helping empower young women like me that look up to you xx
well done hannah 👏🏼👏🏼. I know she will get hate for speaking out but I hope something will change.
nope, nothing did. She needed to write her own stuff, leave the band and make it as a solo artist. Plenty of great women have.
Roadies are a breed of their own. Male and Female have to work them out...
So many pretty girls are being pushed onto the stages, or up the sales charts.
Most of them have no talent except looking good.
Some of them got there by other talents.
And then you wonder why people underestimate your skills, Mrs. Reid?
Man and women in most of the arts and in other walks of life feel like this but sometimes it's just insecurity it's not always sexism and that happens to both sexys these conversations need to be had otherwise it will stay at this point of men not understanding women and not knowing the right way to have a discussion and vice versa
Ivor Novello awards, Brit awards, number one albums: truly an oppressed victim.
"She's the only woman in the band". Yes, 33% of the band. What an asinine comment and a disappointing interview. They're a great band and she's an incredibly attractive woman with an amazing voice, but it sounds to me as though she's complaining that the music industry likes attractive front people. She's no more objectified than any of the boy bands that appeal to hormonal teen girls. She wears jeans and a tshirt, but I notice she still make an effort with her appearance. She recognises that her image is as much part of the music "product" as her voice and persona.
Is she not listened to because she's a woman, or because she expresses opinions like the ones in this interview? I wouldn't take her seriously either.
33% is not 50%
@@TomNook. Why should it be?
You dismiss her in exactly the way that Hannah Reid is pointing out men like yourself dismiss women. Well done you.
Wonderful contralto voice. Stay strong dear lady ! :)
One thing is for certain, though, violence against women is not normalized, whereras violence against men definitely is.
Was she in Skins BBC
I just found out she is lesbian. Love LG, been following them since day 1 and always had Hannah Reid as a muse. I guess I still do. Hope to see them live soon.
Where did you hear that? I’m pretty sure she’s not lol.
Yeah, I’m calling BS on this one. Everyone cares what she thinks and honestly no one could care less what the guy opinion is. She is the voice of London grammar not the gents. Her insecurities are hers a loan. If she has input she needs to speak up not wait for someone to pry it out of her or beg for her opinion.
I own a couple of London Grammar albums, and you know what? I had no idea what she looks like. She's just a fantastic singer in my view. Looks means nothing.
that's in large part to her effort to refusing to make her looks be the defining factor about her contribution to their band.
"It's totally invisible". She knows her place in the pyramid of oppression enough to not mention genres where sexism is totally visible.
She is a class act.stunning voice and so beautiful.
Weird she still made it? Who'd have thought
Steve Buckley gets his car stolen. Goes to the police station, and the officer says in a sarcastic voice:
"Weird you're still fine, who'd have thought".
With London Grammar the blend comes with Hannah's voice and the instrumentation of Dot and Dan. Just accept the band for their music. If you don't like the music that's your choice. Just see the Big Picture, open your ears. Sexism has no place in society. Music lives! Brilliant live recording of California Soil on You Tube.
lol ok Ian 😄😄😄
Empowerment of women... Yeah anja the reporter used to bully anyone she deemed lesser than herself, usually women. Backwards.
White women tears...so oppressed.
Yes she is the only female member (how horribile) Calling it sexism is totally uncalled for. If you are less outspoken or less on the foreground you are treated differently than someone who draws a lot of attention or someone who is always difficult. And if she was black it was not sexism but racism?
Another video sponsored by The Sun. A very respectful publication. Mmm
Hannah is a modern immensely talented & sensitive woman, who has respect in a complex dangerous World from most males and of course females.
Poor thing... this is absolutely terrible
If the music doesn't work out she could write about these issues for the Guardian.
London Grammar are extremely successful. Hannah Reid has dealt with this issue by taking full control of her career.
@@jeremymanson1781 It is extremely successful when it is recognized worldwide and not just in Europe.
Here in south america few know the band .. You sometimes think that europe is the center of the world
@watermeloné I heard it and it most definitely did not "work out". Maybe the musical instruments are sexist.😂
LONDON Grammar, not LINDIN Grammar. Mmkay?
EFF- EM!
She's the centre of attention in the band publicly. It is her voice her presence that drew me to this band and her talent.
But I am disappointed to hear wokeness as an argument of oppression.
It is the men who will disappear into history.
She said it's hard to see the effect even almost invisible and the reason for that is because it's not there it's her, her ego, her narcissism.
Hail To The Liars.
What? She's not allowed to talk about her experiences? We love to hear about all the men that made it "in spite of", but we tell her she's a liar when she does?
Her band obviously supports her and they were there, so are they liars too?
Beautiful voice.
ALERT: The more liberal (left) the institution, the more sexism and racism you find. All the while pointing at people who have zero hate in their heart. Maybe it's time to wake up to the grift.
I mean not really. You are right that there are hypocrites in the left but there's problems on all sides. I'd say the KKK is more racist than the labour party for example 😂. I'm not saying all these groups are great, obviously, but lets not exaggerate.
@@cscscsc When they talk about racism in 2010 or later they really mean personal bias (preference). The KKK hasn't been around in about 50 years and when it was (as with all racist institutions) it was nearly 100% democrat. The conservative right has always been anti slavery and in fact were the backbone of the underground railroad in the 1800s.
Enough with the history lesson. If you want to find racism today, look no further than the party who talks about race with every thought that spews forth. The cultural left is making life miserable for black in the US because it helps them at the ballot box. (fear sells). If they left got there way, blacks would be pampered and given top jobs and allowed to pass with bad scores and who loses? Do you want an equity hire for a boss? It would be a disaster. Blacks are just as capable as whites or Orientals, they just watch too much CNN and have been delivered a culture that doesn't promote family and values.
@@dmtudder ok that was a word salad of random thoughts thrown all at once. I cant reply to all that, I'd be here all week!!
-KKK is still alive, surely everyone knows that
-the words you use show you are maybe not very educated, and socially isolated from the diverse world. Fair enough, but maybe you should go talk to more people about this stuff? Dont stay in an echo chamber. You clearly are passionate so talk to people with different backgrounds and ideas
@@cscscsc What echo chamber are you referring to? The culture that can't seem to say anything that is true or nuanced or the fact that no one is allowed to have a different opinion les ye be canceled. I actually know what I'm talking about. So If you want to discuss vote counts for civil rights legislation in the sixties or the history of the KKK and it's members political affiliations. I'm your hillbilly. If you want to talk about the graph you saw on CNN, grab a latte and spin dial to any number of your echo bubble stations as they all say the exact same propaganda. I won't be joining you. I get my information from hearings speeches and IG reports, not the media.
Try it, you might find out that you are the bubble boy here.
PS the last KKK sighting turned out to be DNC/FBI operatives pulling a S. Alinsky. You may have to research that one, you bubble protects you from certain information, videos, laptops. you know truth.
I genuinely thought she is London Grammar, but apparently she is the member of a band who is being disempowered by others. And did she say "violence against women is normalised"? This is just disappointing.
Don't be disappointed, because it's not true. There is no normalisation of violence, and certainly not against women. Only young people say and think things like this. I was born in the early 60's, and I have seen the progress during my lifetime. Violence is part of human nature, but a lot of us learns to deal with that better and better. If you live in a world where you are surrounded by violent people, you hang with the wrong crowd. There are enough people who try to treat eachother like human beings, no matter their gender.
@@luxmoto7344 You are right. I am just disappointed that she holds that kind of opinion. Being the front person of a band that is relatively popular which makes good music, I thought she would feel grateful, empowered and not think like a victim.
@@anungkachui639 Hai Anung, again; don't be disappointed :) , her expierences are hers, we are all human beings, famous or unknown. We can't judge how she feels in her live. There are lots of people, famous or not, who seems to have everything going for them and still feel badly. Life is stange that way, being happy or satisfied is not easy. We all have our crosses to bear, even if they seem insignificant to others.
@@luxmoto7344 Haha.. 😂. As humans we have the tendency to feel disappointed when someone whom we like and look up are not the way we expect of them right? Human all too human! Will try 😀.
@@anungkachui639 Don't worry about it, she and her band make very good music. Nothing more and nothing less. The beauty of art is that it exists for all of us to enjoy apart from their creators. It's not the person you love or admire, it's their gift they give you. It makes you a better person. Embrace that, and you will be allright.
Violence against women is normalised ? In what society is she living in
I love her talent but ..What are the changes the boys just had warmer more strong and positive personalities?, we all humans and we differ, preferring to address to the more positive people isn't sexism.
Man-women thankfully differ, but for sure many men would love to have the life of a powerful and beautiful woman with an unbalanced talent like Hanna`s and she says women are weak and wants to desexualise her self.
There are countries that violence vs women is normalized, countries that violence vs everyone by law is normalized, but i don't think she's from there, ffs I wish i had born in England..
sorry for my english, but i would like to say that i agree 100% with you
I see Europeans complaining about these issues and I confess that the first thing that crosses my mind is that these people are very fragile and spoiled, and do not even know what it is to go through real difficulties.
If she went to South America, she would see what it is really like to have problems. I speak of Brazil and I know what are the real problems that women are going through. England, Scandinavia, France and other central European countries are paradise compared to the reality of South America.
It is horrible that women are treated like this and I think that Hannah because of her kind introvert character experiences it even more than others.
As a harpist I see how people react to a harp and I see a lot of similarities with the way some people tend to treat London Grammar & Hannah Reid at first.
Many people who first see a grand harp, expect that it is like a well-crafted piece of decoration that it will be a boring to listen to. That is until they hear the sound of it, which catches them by surprise and forces them to listen. Later during a piece when more of the versatility of the instrument is showcased they discover that they just heard a tiny bit of the full potential of the instrument and start wondering how they could have overlooked such a ‘heavenly’ sound for so long.
I remeber them and this band is absolutly fantastic. But I didn't know their name nor their face. Many of music artist I don't even know how do they look like, but I understand that makes a lot of trouble. It would be difficult to open their think about a gender issue. Dark days.
Do some thing, go for song
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Lol 😂
Growing up the music industry was adamant that my sister and I had to hear 2 Live Crew’s “Face down, A$$ up, that’s the way we like to _____” in music shops & in public when older teens would blare it. Banning it would have been censorship, and we couldn’t do that. And we have to endure hearing about Cardi C’s WAP.. NOW they want to talk about decency?? That ship sailed long ago.
As a female lead of a band, and very much the representative face of that band, you should not desexualise yourself. You’re a talented vocalist/musician/front person. Your unquestionable female sexuality is a quality and attribute to be proud of. If fellow musicians and professionals working in that field appear dismissive of you, I don’t think that necessarily reflects their greater attention to your male counterparts, I think it signifies their lack of confidence in accepting an attractive, talented, intelligent female they may just regard as more than their equal, which is why they feel more comfortable with your male colleagues.
I certainly appreciate you as a female, for your fenininity, and talents as a vocalist and musician and all that you contribute to the bands success and our pleasure and enjoyment.
Another front runner in the oppression olympics
What's wrong with people saying their experiences? You can say yours too if you want. Let's talk about how white working class boys are statistically the lowest attainers at schools. Failing huge portions of our populations, leaving these kids left behind. You saying they are in the oppression olympics too? They matter, just like all of this does.
Meanwhile a thousand women throw their knickers at Tom Jones while he's on stage. That's not sexualising an artist or anything.
Men don’t get the same kick out of victimhood
But how has it been recived and portrayed from the beginning? Has it maybe been celebrated by the men, i still would never do that but i think it became a thing because the men seemed to like it and made them look cool to other men in an "see all the women that want me" thing, that turned into the groopies thing, that i also believe was started by male artists sleeping with their fans.
But yeah, I don't think that's a thing that should happen in this day and age, it's interesting to see what genres it still happens in, but the only thing I've personally seen thrown on any stage is roses💁♀️✌️
She dresses like a woman with principles, sang like an angel. Trully an honourable artist.
The way you dress has nothing to do with your principles.
@@skyhigheagleer6 put on an SS uniform then
what if its only in her maind? no one in the right mind once hearing her voice and sing would ever dissmis her incredible talent and beauty