My fav 9-Line of all time: “Type 3. BOT LINES 1-3 NA LINES 4-6 Your sensors No mark Friendlies No Factor Egress as required. Type 3, cleared to engage until Winchester. Call commencing….”
Cheers for the comments guys; I was surprised to run across this audio! I'm in Falcon 1-1; the JTAC is a real-world JTAC on active duty, who was teaching me about how to do 9-lines properly, and we purposely chose a detailed visual attack to practice brevity in a dynamic threat-filled environment. Falcon 1-2 did hit her target, but released all her A-G ordnance in the first pass - a learning point for me as I should have confirmed/specified that it would have been a single release on the first pass. We were both in F-16s, and as she's a real-life F-16 crew chief on active duty, I'm sure she's forgotten more about F-16s than I'll ever know!
The guys: falcon big poppa 12 12 maintain 3 0 on AO 14 NA at 10000 ft northeast Whisky Hotel Me: Yeah hey man could you shoot at those dudes over there by that big fuckin tower thing?
Wow, this is the good stuff to train yourself. Is it normal for me as a non-native speaker to struggle with the coordinates? I always had that issue with native speakers that they're talking way to fast.
its normal to struggle. try doing math in a different language in the heat of the battle. your brain just gets overloaded. also when a human is in the heat of the battle, its just a totaly different situation, even the biology is totaly different..
i dont know about how your training works. Bootcamp, so you mean you start off as a rookie? If that is the case, i think that marine just wants you to know some basics about the military. In that case,simple knowhow how CAS works and what 9lines are should do the job. So basicly if that was the case, the marine just wants to tell you to come a little bit prepared into bootcamp, the more you already know, the easier it will be for you.
I know youre well past needing this info but for the future readers: the NATO 9 Line MEDEVAC reporting system is a way of requesting the evacuation of an injured person from the area of operation. The person requesting the MEDEVAC needs to give 9 different items of information to the higher ups on who is being evacuated from where, why, and what the situation is like so that the proper help can get to that injured person in the required timeframe. Specifics on each and every point of info (the nine lines) can be found in Army Manual TC 3-21.76 the Ranger Handbook chapter B-6
@@FusionBanana4272 it's my understanding that when the JTAC sets up the AC in an overhead orbit like this example, lines 1-3 (IP, Bearing to target, range) are not applicable since the AC is already overhead. Usually the JTAC gives the pilot discretion on attack heading or will give a final attack heading.
@@mkfgaming7346 yeah so; "Lines 123 Will be from the overhead". 123 NA just sounds like something that will confuse a non native english speaker pilot. Just my opinion though, what do I know Im just a fat warzone JTAC:)
No remarks and restrictions or final clearance instructions. Also sounds like the Jtac is dictating a lot of A/C tactics like ordnance instead of asking for effects. Thoughts?
bradley tessendorf 1 is asking for friendlys. At 2:30 "no restrictions" Jtac is recommending a lot, as he himself says. I dont have the feeling that LEAD is not makeing his own calls. What are final clearance instructions? Jtac is clearing 1 and 2 hot. Nothing special happens at the first run.
bradley tessendorf He said remarks, starts at 2:24. Saying "no restrictions" implies there are no ACAs, it is not danger close, not a TOT/TTT, and no need to overly restrict them with a FAH/FAD. I can understand how this might be confusing though, he should of at least said "all FAH/FAD approved". Keep in mind Misty is a FAC(A). JTACs often leave weaponeering and tactics up to the pilot, since they have a lot more training in this regard, especially if they are FAC(A)s. So i assume misty is just weaponeering for them.
I imagine he is RPing USAF Jtac, and for cas, yes, the JTAC does dictate alot of shit, like, selecting ord. they are specifically trained to make things go from air to mud. We have come a long way from popping smoke and just yelling "everything west of green smoke"
That group is no longer around, this was recorded in 2006. I'm currently flying in DCS with the 476th vFG. Regarding the radio effects, I believe that was some editing work by the original author. Although I know we did use a plugin with TS2 at the time to give some radio effects.
Base was a prebriefed altitude that was assigned to each flight. So in flight we say base plus 2 to mean I want you 2000 feet above the base altitude. Say the base was 14000 feet, the blocks would be 16000 assignment. It’s a way to broadcast altitude without giving away your true altitude in case someone is listening.
First this is from F4 Allied Force (flight sim) secondly I (Falcon 1-2) definitely hit the first target but on second pass I was out of Air-Ground munitions (Dakota). ;)
Loved it! Although, they aren't using the phonetic alphabet like they should. It'd be "Misty tree one" But overall, amazing thing to look over. Three = Tree Five = Fife Nine = Niner
I was a USAF TACP JTAC, to be fair, I would only use "niner" out of that list, and even then only sometimes. Even had a random brain fart and forgot "Oscar" so just improvised "Octavia" shit happens man, esp us enlisted.
🤣 they forced us to use the phonetic alphabet in the schoolhouse, but once we got to the fleet we were hazed for saying it. Most people dont use it really, unless comms sucks
My fav 9-Line of all time:
“Type 3. BOT
LINES 1-3 NA
LINES 4-6 Your sensors
No mark
Friendlies No Factor
Egress as required.
Type 3, cleared to engage until Winchester.
Call commencing….”
The biggest shitbag 9 line ive ever seen
Cheers for the comments guys; I was surprised to run across this audio! I'm in Falcon 1-1; the JTAC is a real-world JTAC on active duty, who was teaching me about how to do 9-lines properly, and we purposely chose a detailed visual attack to practice brevity in a dynamic threat-filled environment. Falcon 1-2 did hit her target, but released all her A-G ordnance in the first pass - a learning point for me as I should have confirmed/specified that it would have been a single release on the first pass. We were both in F-16s, and as she's a real-life F-16 crew chief on active duty, I'm sure she's forgotten more about F-16s than I'll ever know!
Are you the JTAC in this video?
+One Bound (Ethan) I'm flight lead. And yes, I'm a Brit (don't hold it against me)!
I see. Is there anything you can tell me to help me prepare to be a JTAC?
Well she at least knows where the oil filter is, which is more than most 16 pilots.
Nice! What Game? DCS? BMS?
And what was the difference between Dakota and Winchester?
This was a real listening test in a NATO-JTAC course
Wow. Shame you can't hear me applauding via CZcams. I thought my group had good comms but we've been humbled by this.
what is the link of your group?
Damn it Soto, what're you doing here.
The guys: falcon big poppa 12 12 maintain 3 0 on AO 14 NA at 10000 ft northeast Whisky Hotel
Me: Yeah hey man could you shoot at those dudes over there by that big fuckin tower thing?
Where’s the game plan/9 line? Usmc jfo bored on quarantine, might’ve missed it but all I hear is correlation?
Do you have more JTAC Training traffic?
9line briefing nice good
Reminds me of my old British Army days 😁
Wow, this is the good stuff to train yourself.
Is it normal for me as a non-native speaker to struggle with the coordinates? I always had that issue with native speakers that they're talking way to fast.
its normal to struggle.
try doing math in a different language in the heat of the battle.
your brain just gets overloaded.
also when a human is in the heat of the battle, its just a totaly different situation, even the biology is totaly different..
Roger, copy. Currently at this time....
10 4
Great audio, do you have any FMs or reference for those who are trying to learn?
J-fire
JP 3-09.3
I leave for bootcamp this month with an infantry contract, and this marine at pt told me I better know what 9lines are, any advice?
i dont know about how your training works. Bootcamp, so you mean you start off as a rookie? If that is the case, i think that marine just wants you to know some basics about the military. In that case,simple knowhow how CAS works and what 9lines are should do the job.
So basicly if that was the case, the marine just wants to tell you to come a little bit prepared into bootcamp, the more you already know, the easier it will be for you.
He meant MEDEVAC 9Line, not CAS
Because you went in as 11 bang bang, 9 line is love, 9 line is life
I know youre well past needing this info but for the future readers: the NATO 9 Line MEDEVAC reporting system is a way of requesting the evacuation of an injured person from the area of operation. The person requesting the MEDEVAC needs to give 9 different items of information to the higher ups on who is being evacuated from where, why, and what the situation is like so that the proper help can get to that injured person in the required timeframe. Specifics on each and every point of info (the nine lines) can be found in Army Manual TC 3-21.76 the Ranger Handbook chapter B-6
123 NA, never heard that one before. No IP, Keyhole or FTO? What does Not applicable mean for the AC?
Jø Wa I’ve been hearing it more and more recently and I’m not sure why. I get a little annoyed when I hear another JTAC say 1-3 NA
@@FusionBanana4272 it's my understanding that when the JTAC sets up the AC in an overhead orbit like this example, lines 1-3 (IP, Bearing to target, range) are not applicable since the AC is already overhead. Usually the JTAC gives the pilot discretion on attack heading or will give a final attack heading.
123 is NA when the Jet is situated in the overhead. As there is no keyhole template in effect.
@@mkfgaming7346 yeah so; "Lines 123 Will be from the overhead". 123 NA just sounds like something that will confuse a non native english speaker pilot. Just my opinion though, what do I know Im just a fat warzone JTAC:)
@@heavymetalboi they got up us on course for saying "123 from the overhead", it was either "123 NA" or simply, "From the OH, Elevation, and so on.
How do you edit voice please ?
Worst geometry tutorial ever...
No remarks and restrictions or final clearance instructions. Also sounds like the Jtac is dictating a lot of A/C tactics like ordnance instead of asking for effects. Thoughts?
bradley tessendorf
1 is asking for friendlys.
At 2:30 "no restrictions"
Jtac is recommending a lot, as he himself says.
I dont have the feeling that LEAD is not makeing his own calls.
What are final clearance instructions? Jtac is clearing 1 and 2 hot. Nothing special happens at the first run.
bradley tessendorf He said remarks, starts at 2:24. Saying "no restrictions" implies there are no ACAs, it is not danger close, not a TOT/TTT, and no need to overly restrict them with a FAH/FAD. I can understand how this might be confusing though, he should of at least said "all FAH/FAD approved".
Keep in mind Misty is a FAC(A). JTACs often leave weaponeering and tactics up to the pilot, since they have a lot more training in this regard, especially if they are FAC(A)s. So i assume misty is just weaponeering for them.
I imagine he is RPing USAF Jtac, and for cas, yes, the JTAC does dictate alot of shit, like, selecting ord. they are specifically trained to make things go from air to mud. We have come a long way from popping smoke and just yelling "everything west of green smoke"
brevity, brevity, brevity... (no ahhs or ummms.)
Arcvine Music EXACTLY
Ex British Army guy here, we were always trained using CLAP 👏, Clear ,Loud And with Pause’s
Is this BMS or DCS?
BMS
F4 Allied Force, I was the Falcon 1-2 in this recording
Do you guys have a squadron still? Also, what radio mod are you using?
That group is no longer around, this was recorded in 2006. I'm currently flying in DCS with the 476th vFG. Regarding the radio effects, I believe that was some editing work by the original author. Although I know we did use a plugin with TS2 at the time to give some radio effects.
Stephanie Lessentine You guys should bring me with you sometime in DCS, what aircraft are you guys flying now?
Can anyone help me with what the "at base plus 1 2 and above and 1 2 and below" means?
Base was a prebriefed altitude that was assigned to each flight. So in flight we say base plus 2 to mean I want you 2000 feet above the base altitude. Say the base was 14000 feet, the blocks would be 16000 assignment. It’s a way to broadcast altitude without giving away your true altitude in case someone is listening.
Very good audio. I notice that the chick couldn't hit anything. I think the Brit is in a Sea Harrier but I'm not 100%.
yes nr 2 went off dry.
brits? do they sound like brits?
Falcon certainly does.
Chris Wilkinson
yes you are right.
brits usualy have a clear voice and a slang free expression.
+Chris Wilkinson Brits doesn't use the F-16
First this is from F4 Allied Force (flight sim) secondly I (Falcon 1-2) definitely hit the first target but on second pass I was out of Air-Ground munitions (Dakota). ;)
is this MARSOC ?
Loved it!
Although, they aren't using the phonetic alphabet like they should.
It'd be "Misty tree one"
But overall, amazing thing to look over.
Three = Tree
Five = Fife
Nine = Niner
I was a USAF TACP JTAC, to be fair, I would only use "niner" out of that list, and even then only sometimes. Even had a random brain fart and forgot "Oscar" so just improvised "Octavia" shit happens man, esp us enlisted.
🤣 they forced us to use the phonetic alphabet in the schoolhouse, but once we got to the fleet we were hazed for saying it. Most people dont use it really, unless comms sucks
That’s for nerds. No one actually does that
Niner is the only one actually used in that list, unless there’s a language barrier or something
tf you on about???
Here see an in game example czcams.com/video/tptMaP0iwdw/video.html
Nerd alert
What does “1 2 above, 1 2 below” mean?