Arc Length (formula explained)

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Komentáře • 263

  • @blackpenredpen
    @blackpenredpen  Před 5 lety +301

    Minor picky mistake,
    *Please write "dL" instead of "dl".*
    Because when we integrate dL we will get L.
    While integral of dl is l.

    • @sairampatnaik1
      @sairampatnaik1 Před 5 lety +8

      Ok sir

    • @sairampatnaik1
      @sairampatnaik1 Před 5 lety +6

      @Tigc channel 2 why

    • @wikingandersson2561
      @wikingandersson2561 Před 4 lety +1

      I have a question:
      Would it be possible for you to derive (show how on heavens earth) the formula of:
      Int sqrt (a^2-x^2) dx = x/2(sqrt a^2-y^2) - a^2/2(sin^(-1)(x/a))+c
      Hope I got it right. Found it in a table for a probkem I have but I am sooo lost in the integrationworld. Would be nice to see different derivations with some simple graphics on the board as well.
      Thank you sir, for your work, it is appriciated all over the world!

    • @luddelagerstedt6458
      @luddelagerstedt6458 Před 4 lety +4

      dl also means decilitre :)

    • @sophiacristina
      @sophiacristina Před 4 lety +1

      What an amateur... Unsubbed >:(

  • @megathetoxic
    @megathetoxic Před 5 lety +228

    2:07 "And now, here is the dL.."

  • @YourPhysicsSimulator
    @YourPhysicsSimulator Před 5 lety +342

    Pythagoras is always here to solve our problems...

  • @tyronekim3506
    @tyronekim3506 Před 5 lety +46

    Very good explanation. I'm in disbelief that some people don't like it.

    • @lunam7249
      @lunam7249 Před 3 lety +4

      Pathagorean’s!!! They don’t like anyone!!!

    • @faisalmohamed4595
      @faisalmohamed4595 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Maybe because there were no questions on the vid?!
      But the video is still great tho

  • @veilofmayaa
    @veilofmayaa Před 4 lety +44

    I can't tell you how happy I am to have come across your channel. Nobody has explained this concept as clearly as you have. It is so important to understand what the formula stands for and this is right on the money! Thank you so much!!

  • @garysnider5342
    @garysnider5342 Před rokem +4

    It takes 7 seconds to skim the proof from the textbook. It took 7 minutes to understand the proof in this video. Absolutely worth it. Amazing job and thank you!!

  • @blackpenredpen
    @blackpenredpen  Před 5 lety +11

    New intro by Quahntasy! He is awesome and creative! Check him out czcams.com/channels/tlaa8gywhvUdrcdYQf5QQQ.html

    • @quahntasy
      @quahntasy Před 5 lety +2

      Thanks again :)

    • @triton62674
      @triton62674 Před 5 lety +1

      Very clear and concise video, good work!

  • @tsurutuneado5981
    @tsurutuneado5981 Před 5 lety +3

    I was searching for a video like this some weeks ago, so happy you uploaded it, thank you

  • @kylearby2988
    @kylearby2988 Před rokem +10

    You’ve helped me so much with my calculus class, you explain all of these complex subjects so well. Thank you!! I’ve subscribed!

  • @DeerPrince
    @DeerPrince Před 2 lety +3

    It's amazing that you explained in 6 minutes what my calculus teacher couldn't clearly explain in 1 hour.

  • @weerman44
    @weerman44 Před 5 lety +69

    Love the intro. It's short and clear!

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  Před 5 lety +9

      weerman44 thanks!!!!! It was done by Quahntasy!

    • @MarioPlinplin
      @MarioPlinplin Před 5 lety +2

      I was about to say LITERALLY the same lol

    • @weerman44
      @weerman44 Před 5 lety

      @@MarioPlinplin Lol nice :D

  • @NinjaMartin
    @NinjaMartin Před 7 měsíci +6

    So incredibly clear! Thank you so much for creating these fantastic videos ❤

  • @hikirj
    @hikirj Před rokem

    I absolutely love your videos man. You are the best math CZcamsr I know and recommend you to anyone I can.

  • @AnjaliSharma06
    @AnjaliSharma06 Před 3 lety +2

    Amazing teachers like you make me love maths even more , thank you

  • @gloystar
    @gloystar Před 5 lety +8

    Very nice video bro. I remember I did the exact same derivation when I was studying calculus, but then realized this derivation is in fact incomplete, because the pits of (dy) are not necessarily equal in length, but the pits of (dx) are, and I saw text books use the mean value theorem in their derivations to overcome that.

  • @gordongorgy9148
    @gordongorgy9148 Před 5 lety +16

    That intro is perfect

  • @user-tg7bv1rk3k
    @user-tg7bv1rk3k Před 4 měsíci +1

    Bro your video is so funny I kept smiling watching it - while learning a lot! Thanks!

  • @ZelForShort
    @ZelForShort Před 5 lety +2

    Perfect timing. Self teaching my self line integration and this is a great explanation for part of that crazy formula int(f(x(t), y(t))√((dx/dt)^2 + (Dy/dt)^2) dt

  • @MrPeradjokic
    @MrPeradjokic Před 2 lety +2

    Good explanation and straight to the point. Thank you for the video!

  • @Kevin-cy2dr
    @Kevin-cy2dr Před 4 lety +2

    You sir, deserve a medal. Great explanation 👍👌

  • @jeanjulmis2347
    @jeanjulmis2347 Před rokem +2

    That was very clear and concise. The textbook sometimes gets very confusing. Now, I can go back and read the textbook again on this chapter.

  • @aidanowens8766
    @aidanowens8766 Před 10 měsíci

    You're awesome! I appreciate your enthusiasm!

  • @hoodiedude4204
    @hoodiedude4204 Před 5 lety +10

    Haha I worked out the same formula when I did this for fun once. Showed it to my professor and he showed it to the whole class.

  • @CPTsack
    @CPTsack Před 3 lety

    You explain this perfectly. Thank you!

  • @calistairene998
    @calistairene998 Před 3 lety

    loves the explanation, short and clear

  • @zubmit700
    @zubmit700 Před 5 lety +3

    Could be fun with some arc battles.
    Also thank you for your videos.

  • @ButterDJar
    @ButterDJar Před 7 měsíci

    thank you so much, i saved so much time by understanding in just 5 minutes instead of reading a 5 page long of contents inside my textbook.

  • @biswaruppramanik2007
    @biswaruppramanik2007 Před měsícem +1

    Wow, you are doing a great a job by making us understand complex topics like these.🙂

  • @PhysicswithRoky
    @PhysicswithRoky Před rokem

    Now, I can solve any problem regrading this. You made the basics. Thank you.

  • @sardarmuhammad9254
    @sardarmuhammad9254 Před 2 lety +1

    thank you for making this video .

  • @Randomguy-vl6gi
    @Randomguy-vl6gi Před 4 lety

    Nice work

  • @light-qn2jb
    @light-qn2jb Před 8 měsíci

    fantastic explanation

  • @adarbarandalgic2730
    @adarbarandalgic2730 Před 2 lety

    Great explanation.

  • @m.f.3347
    @m.f.3347 Před 5 lety +6

    Lowkey flexing with the supreme 👀👀

  • @hyojupark4360
    @hyojupark4360 Před měsícem

    Thank you so much!! you're a hero 💗💗💗💗👍

  • @ece_47_debajitpaul9
    @ece_47_debajitpaul9 Před 3 lety

    Perfect explanation

  • @mrman5066
    @mrman5066 Před 8 měsíci

    Holy, this guy is brilliant! I've seen him once before but only at a glance. So glad I found this video, you don't need to tell me twice to subscribe.

  • @chyawanprash
    @chyawanprash Před 3 lety +1

    Wow, this is amazing!

  • @RSA_Shock
    @RSA_Shock Před 2 lety +1

    God I love your enthusiasm

  • @omarraafat1228
    @omarraafat1228 Před 4 lety

    U'r so simple i liked that soo much❤️❤️❤️

  • @Towl35
    @Towl35 Před 3 lety +2

    This is the simplest way I've seen it explained!

  • @serjanholder2053
    @serjanholder2053 Před 3 lety

    Thank you! Such a clear explanation! Also, the ball in your hand reminds me of the Ood, an alien species of the sci-fi show dr. Who.

  • @stevengaleano7759
    @stevengaleano7759 Před 8 měsíci

    You just saved me bro. I love you!

  • @emontrailers
    @emontrailers Před 5 lety +1

    very good explanations

  • @witsey6345
    @witsey6345 Před 6 měsíci

    Best teacher
    You helped me a lot thank you!

  • @abhiramijayan1716
    @abhiramijayan1716 Před 2 lety

    Thank you so much..much effective 👍 and very clear

  • @alicia4940
    @alicia4940 Před 2 lety

    Thank you so muchhhh😍😭 you‘re much better than my uni lecturer😍

  • @rob876
    @rob876 Před 5 lety +11

    Thanks for this. Your explanations are brilliant. There's another case when x and y are parameterised.
    e.g. if you have the circle defined by x(s) = r.cos(s), y(s) = r.sin(s) and you want the arc length between s = 0 and s = 2π
    dl^2 = dx^2 + dy^2
    dx = dx/ds ds = -r.cos(s) ds
    dy = dy/ds ds = r.sin(s) ds
    so dl^2 = r^2 (cos^2(s) + sin^2(s)) ds^2
    dl = rds
    L = r∫[0 to 2π] ds = 2πr
    Please could you show us how to calculate the arc length of an ellipse? ( x(s) = a.cos(s), y(s) = b.sin(s) )?

    • @professorpoke
      @professorpoke Před 3 lety

      To find the complete arc length of an ellipse find the quarter arc length (using all positive values), and then multiply it by 4.

  • @ajeetkumar5453
    @ajeetkumar5453 Před 4 lety

    Thanks a lot bro for your help.

  • @user-rc7cb3oq3u
    @user-rc7cb3oq3u Před 6 měsíci

    thank you so much sir ❤❤

  • @Bodyknock
    @Bodyknock Před 5 lety +2

    Seems like a natural followup would be when the curve L is a function over time t from time a to time b (e.g. F(t) = (sin(t), cos(t)) in the cartesian coordinates to describe a circular path) and looking at the integral over dt.

  • @SempatikBalkc
    @SempatikBalkc Před rokem

    best teacher ever

  • @6612770
    @6612770 Před 5 lety +45

    Excellent that you identified how the 'elemental length' is constructed in terms of the coordinate space. Getting this firmly grasped is key to tackling the 'bigger stuff' - circle, ellipse, spirals - then onto 3D with helix et al.
    Please use this episode as a launching point for a series, working upwards through the understanding/complexity of finding arc lengths 'from first principles'. That is what will make the "Aha!" Light Bulb come on in peoples heads and stay there forever.

    • @AbhishekSachans
      @AbhishekSachans Před 5 lety +6

      Exactly!!

    • @UntakenNick
      @UntakenNick Před 5 lety +6

      Yeah, I wish there were channels that teach math of physics at full depth starting from zero instead of just making use of that knowledge to do random stuff that require the view to already know the subject in order to understand what they're talking about.

  • @Amine-gz7gq
    @Amine-gz7gq Před 11 měsíci

    You rock man !

  • @evelinageorge2997
    @evelinageorge2997 Před rokem

    Sir you know the importance of understanding 👍❤️

  • @RiteshNEVERUNIFORM
    @RiteshNEVERUNIFORM Před 5 lety

    Your videos are addictive

  • @AnuragKumar-io2sb
    @AnuragKumar-io2sb Před 5 lety +2

    Wow😲😲 never thought of this

  • @awwab1094
    @awwab1094 Před rokem

    I appreciate it thank you

  • @dimbanimvula3672
    @dimbanimvula3672 Před rokem

    Thanks a lot

  • @MisterTomahawk22
    @MisterTomahawk22 Před 5 lety

    Really nice formula !

  • @oneworldT1
    @oneworldT1 Před rokem

    Thanks sir .

  • @MrMariuslestat
    @MrMariuslestat Před rokem

    Thank you!!!!

  • @bazzkiller1331
    @bazzkiller1331 Před 5 lety +3

    Great video, well done! If I were you, I wouldn't use dx and dy at start, but *Δx* and *Δy* as they are not infinitesimal.

    • @JensenPlaysMC
      @JensenPlaysMC Před 5 lety

      well obviously he is assuming they are. just blown up for viewing purposes.

  • @sangamxghimire
    @sangamxghimire Před 2 měsíci

    thank you very much

  • @dharmanshah1239
    @dharmanshah1239 Před 5 lety +8

    Nice intro!!

  • @rohitsk4018
    @rohitsk4018 Před 4 lety

    Very very good
    Thank you sir

  • @vakhariyajay2224
    @vakhariyajay2224 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you very much. 👍👍🔝🔝

  • @johnny_eth
    @johnny_eth Před 4 lety

    It would be cool for you to demonstrate the arc length formula with a practical example, like the arc length of the semi circle (x**2+y**2=r**2) and then resolving to pi.

  • @DeLuini985
    @DeLuini985 Před 4 lety +2

    Thank you so much. You reminded me of using Pythagoras everywhere 🤣

  • @carcisme
    @carcisme Před 5 lety +2

    Medio entiendo el inglés, pero se entiende perfectamente lo que explicas. Gracias.

  • @DanielFrostable
    @DanielFrostable Před 3 lety

    Thank you! My book was not clear in how this formula came about.

  • @maxhaibara8828
    @maxhaibara8828 Před 5 lety +31

    Say "ruler" 10 times in a row

  • @avery_IO
    @avery_IO Před 3 lety

    dope shirt @blackpenredpen

  • @nfqioehr
    @nfqioehr Před 3 lety +1

    Hi, do you have a video on how to graph a cycloid and an epicycloid given a their parametric equations? thanks a lot !

  • @CyberGamer1539
    @CyberGamer1539 Před 4 lety

    This is easily the simplest way I've seen of deriving the formula.

  • @rafaellisboa8493
    @rafaellisboa8493 Před 5 lety +1

    wooow this was awesome mind blown comrade

  • @popodood
    @popodood Před měsícem

    After relearnijg little segments of math randomly it seems so simple each time lol, but it is hard to remember how to derive all these in the moment

  • @juancuneo8346
    @juancuneo8346 Před 5 lety

    Amazing

  • @Ken-no5ip
    @Ken-no5ip Před 2 lety

    Amazingly simple

  • @gabrielzago387
    @gabrielzago387 Před 2 lety

    Nice!

  • @user-ov6ee1nk9o
    @user-ov6ee1nk9o Před 11 měsíci

    Here is the "dL" lmao, great video!

  • @indeedhid380
    @indeedhid380 Před 4 lety +1

    high school me derived this formula while being in his dad's card and felt happy about it. lol.

    • @martinho5474
      @martinho5474 Před 4 lety +2

      When i was 15 ( almost One year ago) when i was making theories when i was learning university maths at same time and i discovered a Proof to this formula implicitly ( by a diferencial infinite series), but i though i discovered a new thoery but then i realized that my formula is another Proof to this formula😂😂🤦🤦 i got euforic and then depressed after that

  • @astaghfirullahalzimastaghf3648

    Hi..
    Thank you for this information..
    Now i ask myself is this formula valid to be used for a circle function or oval function..
    Because the initial point of x that im concern might be bigger in terms of value than the destination of point x. Assuming, that i am trying to calculate the distance between these two, do i need to insert the initial point or the destination point first in the arc formula
    L=integrate √(1+(f'(x)^2) dx
    ?

  • @chathurangasameera6722
    @chathurangasameera6722 Před 10 měsíci

    Tnx sir ❤️

  • @kohi_kohi
    @kohi_kohi Před 10 dny

    Love the Doraemon theme in the background

  • @kono152
    @kono152 Před rokem +1

    could you make a video deriving the arc length for polar curves too?

  • @mihajlovucic8037
    @mihajlovucic8037 Před 5 lety +1

    Hi, Blackpenredpen.
    I like your videos and I learned a lot about calculus in your videos (although I'm 15, and we don't do it in school yet :))
    I am interested in limits, so I found this one: lim (n-->inf) 4/n*(sqrt(2/n-1/n^2)+sqrt(4/n-4/n^2)+sqrt(6/n-9/n^2)+sqrt(8/n-16/n^2)....+sqrt(2k/n-k^2/n^2)...). Can you compute it? (You can put it in sigma calculator to see how interesting it is)

    • @lunam7249
      @lunam7249 Před 3 lety

      Excellent work young man!!

  • @bulldawg4498
    @bulldawg4498 Před 5 lety

    Will you ever make videos covering line integrals over scalar and vector fields, culminating in Green's Theorem and Stokes' Theorem? Also, smaller in scope: there's a need for a good video on the Jacobian ...

  • @rafaellisboa8493
    @rafaellisboa8493 Před 5 lety +1

    please could you do a vid about the area of a 3D curve? that should be very interesting

  • @alexpastrana7840
    @alexpastrana7840 Před 3 lety

    this boy flexin the supreme

  • @rorycarter6948
    @rorycarter6948 Před rokem

    I keep thinking he’s saying “this is the deal..”😂

  • @user-fp6pi6wi5l
    @user-fp6pi6wi5l Před 5 lety +6

    Thanks for the video, but now, what about the ellipse or circle?

    • @zerglingsking
      @zerglingsking Před 5 lety +4

      I think you can separate the problem is other smaller problems, for example the length of the circle is 4 times the quarter or the circle which you know is y=sqrt(1-x^2) for example. For the parabola, you have the expression of f(x)=y if you know a few points so it shouldn't be too much of a problem. For other cases like the circle where you have 2 or more images for a single x or y value, just split the problem in several little curves you can then add up and it shouldn't be too hard after this if you know the formula of the curves

  • @JensenPlaysMC
    @JensenPlaysMC Před 5 lety

    whilst watching your pi function video you say that for n factorial you need to apply ) l'hospitals rules n times, what about non integer values of n? can you explain or do a video on what exactly applying l'hospitals rule e.g 1/2 times would entail?

  • @garyhuntress6871
    @garyhuntress6871 Před 4 lety

    I've done line integrals before but now I know WHY they look like that!!

  • @kujmous
    @kujmous Před 5 lety +1

    Can you show that the length of the function f(x) = x ^ n as n increases without bound from (0,0) to (1,1) is equal to 2? It is visually obvious, but I could never figure out the integral to apply the limit.

  • @trys9262
    @trys9262 Před 5 lety +1

    this can be applied to parametric equations aswell i assume? just doing extra steps to be in "t" (if x = f(t), y = g(t)) ?

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  Před 5 lety +2

      Trystan Hooper
      Yes. I did that as well. The video will be up soon

  • @RicardoOliveiraRGB
    @RicardoOliveiraRGB Před 5 lety +1

    Will you talk about line integrals?

  • @algirdasltu1389
    @algirdasltu1389 Před měsícem

    Its always pythagoras that shows up everywhere, even when you dont expect it...

  • @Vic9994546
    @Vic9994546 Před rokem

    So when they are coming up with proofs is a part of that manipulating it to have it in that integral and dx operator at the end format ? If you didn’t have that dx at the end by factoring it out the integral would not work?

  • @medchs
    @medchs Před 4 lety +1

    isn't L = integ (from 0 to 1) dL ?
    or from n to n+1 ?