Danger Sticks: A Beginners Guide to Air to Air Missiles in War Thunder

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  • čas přidán 30. 05. 2024
  • This is an updated version of my previous video that includes some minor corrections to some, a revamped SACLOS section, new voice over, and the addition of an ARH section.
    My Discord: / discord
    Links:
    Missile Stat Spreadsheet: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
    Seeker Heads Fox 1 evasion video: • How To EVADE Radar Mis...
    History of the AIM 9 Sidewinder: forum.warthunder.com/index.ph...
    Timestamps:
    0:00 Intro
    0:25 Stat Cards and Controls
    2:55 MCLOS
    3:55 SACLOS
    5:29 IR Guidance
    6:11 IR Caged Rear Aspect
    7:45 IR Uncaged Rear Aspect
    9:25 IR Uncaged All Aspect
    10:19 SARH
    13:59 ARH
    18:35 Outro
  • Hry

Komentáře • 288

  • @betaripoff
    @betaripoff Před rokem +281

    Update: Almost all air-to-air missiles in the game now have an updated warm-up time of just under a second. some have either kept the same active tracking time and some have been slightly shortened.

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +21

      Yea warmup time for most IR missiles is now 1 second, they will stay active for 20 seconds, and the Launch Overload G for most IR missiles was removed. There where also changes to tracking of missiles like the R530F and and AIM 9L.

    • @ZioBorisitalia
      @ZioBorisitalia Před rokem

      @@rampageTG where's your Radar video? i don't understand a damn of radar, HELP

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +2

      @@ZioBorisitalia can’t remember what IOG stands for again. I know I answered it a long time ago in the comments of this video.
      Basically it’s an addition to the missiles guidance loop that will let it remember the last known trajectory it was on and will keep on that even if a lock is lost. This can sometimes allow you to reacquire a lock after it is lost.

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +4

      @@ZioBorisitalia on the back burner of things to do. Was having some difficulty with how to structure it and then had some real life stuff come up and haven’t gotten back around to working on it. In the meantime I would suggest checking out Times Variety’s tutorial. It’s a good one.

    • @ZioBorisitalia
      @ZioBorisitalia Před rokem

      @@rampageTG Really? Great then, thanks a lot!
      I'm sorry you haven't find time for... your passion? Btw i'll wait for other contenets
      👍👍

  • @noracane269
    @noracane269 Před rokem +529

    the real question is: does the missile know where it is?

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +89

      In the case of the AIM 54, yes it does. Well near enough. It’s got an onboard INS so it does know it’s rough position. Though it will drift out of alignment with time.

    • @agentwashington317
      @agentwashington317 Před rokem +176

      It does actually. It knows this because it knows where it isn’t

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +49

      @@agentwashington317 nah it nows it because it has calculated it position based on maneuvers the launching aircraft and the missiles itself have made.

    • @timbo853
      @timbo853 Před rokem +49

      @@rampageTG yea that really flew over your head. Pun intended.

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +56

      @@timbo853 I know its a meme, I'm just throwing a fact at it.

  • @F82TwinMustang
    @F82TwinMustang Před rokem +64

    Sending this to a friend who’s learning how to missile. Will be sending him the radar one whenever that drops too. Good guide

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +2

      Thanks. Gonna be another 2-3 weeks on that radar video. This week I’m working on an F14 review. Hard at work spading and gathering footage for that. Not sure if I’ll be able to finish the radar tutorial in a week so might end up needing 2 to punch that one out.

    • @mtxdp4392
      @mtxdp4392 Před rokem +2

      tims variety has just dropped an updated radar guide, should have the same info as the one hes coming out with soon

  • @Tankenstein
    @Tankenstein Před rokem +113

    Top notch video, Rampage!!! This is an awesome explanation of all things air-to-air missiles!

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +7

      Thanks a lot. Plan on doing something similar with radars once I finish up with summer class finals.

    • @KrolKaz
      @KrolKaz Před rokem +3

      Top "notch" indeed

  • @ScotchMustang_14
    @ScotchMustang_14 Před rokem +63

    Yoooo that third circle is the strength of the radar missile lock? I never knew that; I always thought the game was being glitchy and not showing a full circle. Is this described anywhere at all or did you find this out through testing? That's going to help me out a lot since I just thought "red good, white bad." I can remember a lot of those launches were when the circle was like 55% filled, so they would go dumb very soon when the target changed one small thing. Can't believe I have played with radar missiles for so long and didn't know this, thanks for the video!

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +20

      It was kinda explained in a devblog when that 3 circle system was first added but it wasn't clear so me and my buddies did some testing to figure it out. I think the wiki explains this as well and maybe Mike and Oxy have done a guide stream for it like they did for Air to Ground weapons, but don't quote me on that. As for anything in game explaining it no.

    • @quarreneverett4767
      @quarreneverett4767 Před rokem +1

      Its listed in several places :D

  • @julianbe5657
    @julianbe5657 Před rokem +28

    5:21 The fireflashes are so cool, probably my favourite type of missile in the game. So fun to use

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +8

      Yea I haven't really used the swift much so haven't had a ton of opportunities to use fireflashes.

  • @SonOfFudge
    @SonOfFudge Před rokem +5

    the bit with the Swift F.7's missiles actually helped me lol
    first time i tried to use it was like deciphering hieroglyphs..

  • @PandaJoe14801
    @PandaJoe14801 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Can we all take a minute to appreciate the dedication of missiles? They are programmed to have one job : destroy the desired target : and they would do ANYTHING to make their host (the plane or mother plane) safe so the target doesn’t harm the aircraft..

  • @delayed_control
    @delayed_control Před rokem +2

    SACLOS stands for Semi _Automatic_ Command Line of Sight, not Semi Active. And it DOES NOT mean beam riding. Beam riding is a separate thing. SACLOS missiles have an IR beacon in the rear and a control system that tracks the missile from the aircraft and sends steering commands over radio or wire to keep it in the middle of the IR sensor's FOV.

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +1

      Did I say Active? If I did that's a whoops on my part that I didn't catch when editing. I'll throw that onto the notes of things to change whenever I need to update this video again.

  • @feliz9532
    @feliz9532 Před rokem +4

    Dont have any planes with Air to air missiles but you did get my attention

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +2

      Awesome. I k ow it’s not easy or quick to reach the higher tiers of War Thunder, but that’s what I have the most fun playing.

  • @GeneralLee2000
    @GeneralLee2000 Před rokem +7

    First!!!! We're on the highway to the danger zone.

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +4

      Yes I wonder how you managed to be first? Not like I told you when it would go live or anything.
      Now if only we had some larger maps.

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000 Před rokem +1

      @@rampageTG shhhh they don't need to know that. Also yes, would be lovely...

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +1

      Then when Larger maps come there is fewer reasons to with hold the MiG 25. Then I can do Funny Mach 3 things.

    • @agentwashington317
      @agentwashington317 Před rokem +2

      F-14 gaming with the boys is righteous

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +2

      @@agentwashington317 anything with friends is usually fun, but especially so for the F-14.

  • @anthocyanin
    @anthocyanin Před rokem +39

    hey! great video, it covers basically everything i've had to learn myself in my many games at missile tier, except maybe 1 little tidbit you missed:
    on the radar scope, when you're using radar missiles (and in the past, ir missiles as well), you will get 3 lines appearing on the side of your scope (or across the entire cone if you use that display), with 1 being longer than the other 2
    those 2 lines are actually estimating the maximum and minimum range of the selected missile, while taking into account the enemy's speed *and* your own speed, as well as both of your altitudes. the longer line simply shows where your target's range in a convenient place. tl;dr long line in between 2 short lines -> high probability of kill
    i've personally used it alot to save my missiles for less risky shots (although the minimum range can be wrong, it assumes the missile has to maneuver at least a little bit, which sometimes isn't needed in a head-on)

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +4

      I know of it. I’m gonna be covering that in my radar tutorial. I contemplated adding it here, but I wanted to avoid going into stuff related to radars as much as possible. Just trying to keep the focus on missiles.

    • @anthocyanin
      @anthocyanin Před rokem +3

      @@rampageTG ahh, gotcha, that makes sense

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +3

      @@anthocyanin still good thought. This is one of those things that could go in either video and I’ll probably just end up pinning this comment.

    • @shotgunner3780
      @shotgunner3780 Před rokem +1

      That's a very useful explaination!

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +3

      @@shotgunner3780 welcome. I'm hyped to see how far it goes.

  • @reedman0780
    @reedman0780 Před rokem +2

    For a 700 sub dude, nice work. Very interesting to see new videos on weapons as other bigger youtubers do not update their old ones

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +1

      Thanks a lot. I figured a lot of people would be looking for info on how to use the new ARH missiles, so I figured it would be a good first video after that patch instead of trying to make another aircraft review right away. I also like helping people if I have some knowledge in the area their having trouble with. Still working on making a review for the F14 though cause I want to.
      Yea the only larger YT channel I know whos been keeping up with top tier guides is Tim’s Variety. He did a great vid for radars and he should be updating his missile vid soon.

  • @CaptKarel
    @CaptKarel Před 4 měsíci

    Finally a video explaining how missiles and radar works in a way that is easy to under stand, especially since I am new to jets with missiles. Thanks.

  • @bearisland7200
    @bearisland7200 Před rokem +3

    Big thanks for this, by far the best missile explanation on CZcams

  • @jonjonckheer5063
    @jonjonckheer5063 Před 10 měsíci +1

    The best missile video so far! You earned my sub!

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před 10 měsíci

      Thanks. I’ve been pretty inactive this year seeing as how I’ve only posted like 1 video all year. Not sure when the next one will come out as I’m working 75+hrs a week atm.

  • @Ulfur8574
    @Ulfur8574 Před rokem +2

    Great guide. I'm starting to research jets and this will very helpful
    Also I have a feeling your channel is going to blow up big time from this guide.

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +3

      Oh its defiantly been surprising me how well this has been doing and how quickly its done it. I've had large jumps in views on previous videos before, but both times I had gotten a shoutout from bigger YTs that I know. First one being seeker head and the second being Zultan. This is my first video that's really blown up like this on its own in the first week.

    • @Ulfur8574
      @Ulfur8574 Před rokem +1

      @@rampageTG I think one of the reasons is that it's currently the only modern updated guide on AAM. After your outdated AAM video the only other most recent AAM video is from 7 months ago and people have a tendency to choose the most recent video.

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +2

      @@Ulfur8574 I mean I figured that would play a role in it as well. I was just never expecting it to do this good.
      I know I can't really compete for being the first to review a new vehicle as I have to grind it out and then spade it, play it, and then make a video. So I can't really pump out a quick vid like the guys in the CC program can. I figured the AAM vid would be easier to do since while I still had to get the F14 and AIM 54, I didn't have to fully spade it, and the script was already pretty much fully written. Biggest part I had to add was the ARH section and then I to make some corrections to the SARH section to add that second way of using them.

  • @AlienVibesss
    @AlienVibesss Před rokem +1

    I forgot to watch this when you sent it in discord. But absolute 10/10 video my dude. You did great.

  • @Zorka1996
    @Zorka1996 Před rokem +1

    The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't.
    In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation, the variation being the difference between where the missile is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was.
    The missile guidance computer scenario works as follows. Because a variation has modified some of the information the missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is. However, it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it knows where it was. It now subtracts where it should be from where it wasn't, or vice-versa, and by differentiating this from the algebraic sum of where it shouldn't be, and where it was, it is able to obtain the deviation and its variation, which is called error.

  • @AbyssViber1028
    @AbyssViber1028 Před rokem +19

    I’ve been doing tests since the patch dropped and it seems that the AIM-54A starts tracking by itself between 20-15km. Hope this bit of info helps.

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +9

      Yea its radars lock range translates to about 16km. the extra range there probably has to do with some planes having a larger RCS than others.

    • @AbyssViber1028
      @AbyssViber1028 Před rokem +2

      @@rampageTG I assumed so.

  • @IronPhysik
    @IronPhysik Před rokem +3

    small nitpick on all aspect IR missiles
    it was not cooling that allowed them to see all aspect shots, it was a entirely different sensor material that has a different detecting spectrum allowing it to see deeper into the IR-spectrum
    on older missile it was either uncooled or cooled PbS (Lead sulfide) while on more modern missiles cooled InSb (Indium antimonide) is used
    Cooling Lead-sulfide btw reduced the sensititvity to the sun and allowed missiles to be fired outside a 5° dead zone around the sun compared the 20° that uncooled PbS detectors had
    it also made the seekers less easily confused by sun reflections from vegetation, clouds or water.

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +2

      Cool thanks for the info. I figure I'll have to update this video again in the future so I'll be sure to correct that part then.

    • @IronPhysik
      @IronPhysik Před rokem +2

      @@rampageTG if you want to know how SARH actually work I suggest to check my video on the AIM-7, where I explained how its autopilot functions based on historical sources.

  • @lucaswallace7476
    @lucaswallace7476 Před rokem

    "You will hear a low pitch growl, Indicated the missile is ready to lock on."
    Cutest missile.

  • @julienceaser4018
    @julienceaser4018 Před 23 dny

    The fireflash has a very forgiving proxy radius and is absolutely devastating in head ons. In a head on, just before you are in guns range then fire and pull away immediately. in a head on theres not much that can pull away fast enough to make it out of its proxy radius so its basically a guaranteed kill every time you get into a head on.

  • @_Despair
    @_Despair Před rokem +5

    Please do a video on the characteristics of each missile variant. E.g AIM9G vs 9D etc. And the best ways to employ them.
    Great content dude, subbed.

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +2

      Thanks for the sub. As for a video on each specific missile I’m not sure. That would be a huge undertaking. Though I do discuss specific missiles in my aircraft reviews. Granted if I’ve covered a missile before on a previous aircraft I might not go into as much detail on a future video cause at least from my perspective it would get boring hearing me repeat the same things over and over.

  • @4funrc11
    @4funrc11 Před rokem +1

    👍 Thank-You! 😍
    Looking forward to your upcoming RADAR vids... 😃

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +1

      ETA on that should be 2-3 weeks hopefully.

    • @4funrc11
      @4funrc11 Před rokem +1

      @@rampageTG 👍 I'm subscribing so I won't miss out! 😃

  • @lnstall_Wizard
    @lnstall_Wizard Před rokem

    Thanks for this video! I will sub for more content!

  • @kurtdizon_1104
    @kurtdizon_1104 Před rokem +1

    very informative and educational thank you so much

  • @robertdamari4330
    @robertdamari4330 Před rokem

    Great video

  • @raven_1133
    @raven_1133 Před rokem

    Thank you. I don’t know a lot of things about missiles because my knowledge is on the aircraft themselves and not their armament.

  • @ParabellumHistory
    @ParabellumHistory Před rokem +1

    Great guide
    Subscribed!

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem

      Thanks. Working on the next vid right now.

  • @agentwashington317
    @agentwashington317 Před rokem +1

    Great vid! Keep it up! :)

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +1

      I plan to as long as I have something interesting/informative to say.

  • @Faedz
    @Faedz Před rokem +6

    Already knew most of this stuff but i still learned things.

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +1

      Glad you found some new bits of information.

  • @RuneOverW
    @RuneOverW Před rokem +3

    I like the video, it gives a good understanding of guided missiles for people who recently got into top tier aircraft

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +1

      That was the goal of the video, so glad it achieved that.

  • @vonschwendeman2611
    @vonschwendeman2611 Před rokem

    The missile doesn't "warm up" it actually is the time needed to cool the seeker on the nose of the missile. So it is cooling the missile not warming it.

  • @PogingNavy94
    @PogingNavy94 Před rokem

    The missile knows where it is.
    But it begins to question its existence.

  • @savasolarov8424
    @savasolarov8424 Před 10 měsíci

    Very good presentation. Is much appreciated. I bought the Tornado IDS but i am afraid to use it as I don't understand any of the radar/missile tech.

  • @mnib4182
    @mnib4182 Před rokem +1

    5:00 wow thank you so much!

  • @carlitosskater89
    @carlitosskater89 Před rokem +3

    Actually, my problem is having a weird key bind setup that I have already internalized. So, as I keep climbing the tank and unlocking new weapon systems, I find myself trapped with my keybinds into weird combos.

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +1

      I was to for a while until my keybind setting were randomly deleted for some reason after an update and I had to reset everything. I like the setup I have now. Basically all my radar controls use a Lft Ctrl modifier and all my weapon, wing, and vtol setting use an alt modifier. If you want you can look at my keyboard and mouse controls in the links section of my discord.

    • @carlitosskater89
      @carlitosskater89 Před rokem

      @@rampageTG thank you very much 👌🏽

  • @cannibalzgaming3184
    @cannibalzgaming3184 Před rokem +1

    good job man keep it up

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem

      I’m going to. Script is done for my F14 review and I’ll be working on recording the voice over later today. Hope to have it up late tomorrow if I’m lucky, probably gonna be wed/thur though. It’s about as long as my script for the A10A.

  • @littlep0d087
    @littlep0d087 Před rokem

    If I’m being honest, if I can fire it and it gets me kills MOST of the time then that’s all I need, show me the bottoms and off it goes. Every informative guide however very useful!👍

  • @limer.6355
    @limer.6355 Před rokem +1

    very well done

  • @slothsdontsleep
    @slothsdontsleep Před rokem +3

    Subscribed and liked because danger stick is funny name

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +4

      It is a funny name. Very happy with that title which is why I didn’t change it.

  • @Delta5x7
    @Delta5x7 Před rokem +1

    Finally I can know how to use AIM-7's

  • @americankid7782
    @americankid7782 Před rokem

    You know it’s a danger stick because when someone sees it coming towards them they go “AAAAA-“

  • @an0mal0us
    @an0mal0us Před rokem +1

    Leaving a comment for the algorithm gods
    Nice video

  • @wild_luger3143
    @wild_luger3143 Před rokem +4

    Great video bro, could you do a quide on air-to-ground missiles and quided bombs like the gbu-8 ?

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +1

      Already covered that. Nothing drastically new has come about so I haven’t had a need to update it like the Air-to-Air tutorial.
      Precision Strike: A Beginners Guide to Air-to-Ground Weapons in War Thunder
      czcams.com/video/V4WO1PrBTPg/video.html

  • @Kruminater1776
    @Kruminater1776 Před rokem

    Please do an air to ground missile guide? This was well done and I have a very hard time figuring out key binds and how to get the locks to work and then fire.

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem

      Already did. Check my guides playlist.

  • @onezerotwo
    @onezerotwo Před rokem +1

    this is way higher effort and quality than 95% of other War Thunder stuff, were you in DCS and hit your head and get lost or something? :D Nice work!

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +2

      I do play DCS. Haven’t as much the past year since they screwed up VR FPS. Still thanks.

    • @onezerotwo
      @onezerotwo Před rokem +1

      @@rampageTG really great work, I've gone through and watched a bunch of your videos tonight and have passed on at least one to friends learning jets

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem

      @@onezerotwo I appreciate it.

  • @quarreneverett4767
    @quarreneverett4767 Před rokem

    Thanks for trying to help educate. I do the amw but get fussed st. I taught alot of peope. and noobs alot of stuff. I talk about it on streams and stream teaching at times

  • @blessthismessss
    @blessthismessss Před rokem +1

    The Phoenix will always go active within 10mi to the target in war thunder. it even gives it's launching aircraft an rwr warning when it's launched maddog

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +2

      I did say an ARH will go active once its within its lock range and if you fire from within that range it will be active from the start. I have not noticed the rwr warning when launched maddog myself..

    • @blessthismessss
      @blessthismessss Před rokem

      @@rampageTGthe (borderline) maddog launch at 16:25 in the video shows this phenomena, keep an eye on the RWR as soon as you enter 10mi. I was also just denoting the 10mi pitbull range lol

  • @doomedt-62
    @doomedt-62 Před rokem +1

    For some reason I haven't been notified of any of your recent videos for over a month. CZcams doing what CZcams does.

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +2

      Well that sucks. Though I haven’t keeps the most consistent upload schedule, so could also be that.

  • @PiwyLC
    @PiwyLC Před rokem

    I love when my phoenix goes pitbull mode on an harmless SU-22M3

  • @alanm1121
    @alanm1121 Před rokem +2

    Very well put together video, thank you 💕

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +1

      Your welcome. Currently working on one for radar that I’m about 1/4 done with the script.

    • @alanm1121
      @alanm1121 Před rokem

      @@rampageTG Good stuff, ill be looking forward to it. Researched the EJ kai but don't have enough creds and im not having much luck with the ground cluttered radar on the EJ with its sparrows.

  • @themaxdome5487
    @themaxdome5487 Před rokem +1

    nice video looking forward to the radar video becouse i am confused how PD works in game

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +2

      ETA on that is hopefully in the next 2-3 weeks. Working on an F14 vid this week. After that not sure If I'll be able to finish the Radar one in a single week as those scripts take a long time to write.

  • @Anti-Villain-Wolf
    @Anti-Villain-Wolf Před rokem +2

    QUESTION: I am trying to using the AIM-7C Sparrow missiles on the F3H-2. I have the lock radar key set, but when I hit the buttons to use it I get no lock. All I get is those flashing green lines in the shape of a box for a second, but nothing. Can anyone help? I'm on console if it makes a difference

  • @thesawtoothdude
    @thesawtoothdude Před 4 měsíci

    Wow first time I’ve seen another player other than myself using imperial measurements for altitude and distance. feet is the internationally recognized standard unit for altitude by traffic controllers and pilots.

  • @batterythunder
    @batterythunder Před rokem

    18:18 Bro killed an IL2 with F14, very well balance Gaijin

  • @ifoundmemallet3394
    @ifoundmemallet3394 Před rokem

    If you slave an IR missile to someone shoot it while keeping your radar rock then can someone still flare it away with regular flares minus chaff?

  • @alexanderhauser7702
    @alexanderhauser7702 Před rokem +1

    bro has his speed in knots

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +1

      Yea cause it’s the international standard. I’d be using nautical miles for range as well if it was an option.

  • @emadyanni8360
    @emadyanni8360 Před rokem

    plz tell me how did you make this radar Hud perfect i can see in it in my game radar hud can't see like this plz tell me if any tips to make my hud radar like you ?

  • @CoCoNuT-dq7ez
    @CoCoNuT-dq7ez Před rokem +2

    i call the aim9b a slightly guided spear

  • @leobanan451
    @leobanan451 Před rokem +2

    5:20 Wait what, didn't know it actually works

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +2

      I didn’t either until someone pointed it out to me on my original air to air tutorial. So I made sure to include that correction in this one.

  • @australianbugfacts3419
    @australianbugfacts3419 Před rokem +3

    pogging

  • @Kryoic
    @Kryoic Před rokem

    Where did you get the VFA-2 F-14 Livery?

  • @kazoix
    @kazoix Před rokem

    It comes in all shapes and sizes
    RampageTG - 2022

  • @money4dayz180
    @money4dayz180 Před rokem +1

    I noticed that after the ARH there are the IOG and DL acronyms. Do you know what they are and how they affect the missile? I noticed that the R24R had IOG as well so it’s not just for ARH missiles.

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +1

      DL stands for Data Link. Basically basically how the missile talks to the launch aircraft so that it can be feed the targets location mid flight before it’s radar goes active.
      IOG can’t remember off the top of my head what it stood for. I know I answered it in another comment somewhere. So I wasn’t to sure on this one, but basically what I found was IOG was acronym for a type of missile guidance algorithm. Could be wrong on this one though so I would love for someone more familiar to double check me.

    • @soarece8792
      @soarece8792 Před rokem +1

      I don't know what IOG actually stands for, but it means the weapon is inertially guided. This applies also to certain other weapons like the Hellfire or Paveway III. Functionally, it means that the weapon will continue to guide on its last known track even if guidance is lost. The launching aircraft can also typically preload the missile with a track, I'm not certain that the R-24R does this but notably it has a maximum SARH seeker range of 30km, so I suspect it can. No datalink, so if it does lock on after launch may be suspect.

  • @phazinlazersmusic2848
    @phazinlazersmusic2848 Před rokem +3

    Fun fact: You can target lock the Sun with IR missles.

  • @setesh1294
    @setesh1294 Před rokem

    Pretty sure the Shafrir 2 has an uncaged head. As it's an AIM-9G's seeker head on an AIM-D with a slightly worse motor.

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem

      That’s something that was changed after I made this video.

  • @CrimsonFlame01
    @CrimsonFlame01 Před rokem +3

    How did you get the radar view on the right? Mine is a cone, i much prefer the square

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +2

      It’s a setting in the option menu. Can’t remember the name of it off the top of my head right now, but I’ll get back to you with it later if you haven’t found it.

    • @germax7
      @germax7 Před rokem +2

      You have to go to options, then select Air battle settings and click the switch for: "Use rectangular radar indicator".

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +1

      ^ yep this is it.

  • @sukokium
    @sukokium Před rokem

    What's the latest vehicle you can get a missile?

  • @Deroven
    @Deroven Před rokem +3

    Please note that Radar/IRST control keybindings displayed are wrong.
    Right bindings to be found are as spoken:
    Horizontal Radar/IRST target cue control axis
    Vertical Radar/IRST target cue control axis
    Aso please make sure these are RELATIVE CONTROLS; otherwise it will just jump to max setting and back to centre.
    If this still doesn't work - no you aren't stupid, you're just like me. What you need to do is go to:
    options -> air battle settings -> target cyclic switching of aircraft radar.
    After all of these steps are completed, load your F-14 with 6 aim -54's, and get a triple kill right from spawn. Because herp-a-derp mapdesign and powercreep. :D

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +1

      Oops guess I forgot to mention that in this video. I did mention it in the F14 review and plan to go over it in the radar tutorial.

    • @Deroven
      @Deroven Před rokem

      @@rampageTG yeah no worries, I just felt EXTREMELY STUPID when I did everything according to multiple tutorials and didn't get it to work.
      Figured I'd post it here as your vid was probably one of the better ones on the topic anyhow. Maybe more eyes see it?

  • @quarreneverett4767
    @quarreneverett4767 Před rokem

    I spent hours tying to figure out what iog is. Not much so fsr yet

  • @HyperNebula
    @HyperNebula Před rokem +1

    What's the best controller scheme for consoles to be able to use the missiles properly

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +1

      I’ve never played on console so I don’t really know the best way to answer that. Though I would say using the Fire Primary, Switch Primary, Fire Secondary, and Switch Secondary weapon controls are probably the best given they use less keybinds overall.

  • @sherifbadry7514
    @sherifbadry7514 Před rokem +1

    hi nice video ..i want to ask about which key i must use to change targets in green box i mean how can i change targets

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +1

      That's the "switch target to lock" keybind. Should see the exact name in both the SARH and ARH sections.

    • @sherifbadry7514
      @sherifbadry7514 Před rokem +1

      @@rampageTG thanks dude i got it keep up the good work

  • @andreascosta5781
    @andreascosta5781 Před rokem +1

    Smart boom rods

  • @nottaze9424
    @nottaze9424 Před rokem

    mine just dont follow them even if i lock on and it turns red (f5-c) but i have gotten kills with missiles its a hit or miss sometimes it follows and sometime it goes right pass(not even using flares) and idk why

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +1

      The F5C gets AIM 9Es. These are 10G missiles. They don’t pull very hard so are pretty easy to dodge even without flares.

    • @nottaze9424
      @nottaze9424 Před rokem

      @@rampageTG thank you, any other tips for that jet? To use it to its maximum potential?

  • @bismark9719
    @bismark9719 Před rokem

    Guys i need help, when firing a radar missile i want to se where it goes (by spectating it) but how? Where is the key?

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +1

      Should be the "Tracking Camera: Bomb/Torpedo" keybind. Not sure what it is defaulted to, but I have mine as U.

  • @Chan-minion
    @Chan-minion Před rokem

    They should add the X-4 AAM on the Me-262

  • @Laizerrg
    @Laizerrg Před rokem +1

    What does mean PID in the excel-table?

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem

      Ok I wasn't sure either so I did a quick google search. PID stands for Proportional Integral Derivative. Its part of the math used by missiles to determine how far they need to lead the target for a successful interception. So all those numbers in the missile excel table are the variables it plugs into the formula for that missile. I haven't had time to study the math enough to figure out what each one does though.

  • @miles2378
    @miles2378 Před rokem

    On two seater jets can a second player be the "RIO"?

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem

      No this isn’t DCS. I doubt we will ever see multi crew either. People having been asking for multi crew as far back as 2013 with bomber gunners.

  • @Pivotthepup
    @Pivotthepup Před rokem

    Any advise for the R-24 IOG missiles?

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem

      R24 depends on what version you are using the R24R uses a SARH seeker while the R24T uses an IR seeker. So depending on what you are using will dictate how you fly the MiG 23.

    • @Pivotthepup
      @Pivotthepup Před rokem

      @@rampageTG I wish to know more about the R24R. It says it's SAHR+IOG guided but I don't know what IOG means

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +1

      @@Pivotthepup can’t remember what IOG stands for again. I know I answered it a long time ago in the comments of this video.
      Basically it’s an addition to the missiles guidance loop that will let it remember the last known trajectory it was on and will keep on that even if a lock is lost. This can sometimes allow you to reacquire a lock after it is lost.

  • @Em_Youl
    @Em_Youl Před rokem +1

    What is a passive radar homing missile?

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +1

      That’s a SARH. Active means it has its own radar that sends out a radar pulse and then picks up the return. Passive doesn’t send out its own pulse and can only pick up return pulses from another radar. Passive is just referred to as Semi Active in this case.

    • @Em_Youl
      @Em_Youl Před rokem +1

      @@rampageTG aaaaah ok makes sense! thank you!

  • @itsyourlocalsunscreeneater8389

    Question: Is the R24R The best fox 1 of ussr?

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem

      It used to be. Now it’s the R27ER.

  • @alec6945
    @alec6945 Před rokem +2

    Good stuff to anyone needing to learn the game take it from me a local shitter

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +2

      Yep I’m always down for trying help people learn more about that game that gaijin doesn’t bother to explain.

  • @TheLastApplePie
    @TheLastApplePie Před rokem

    15:01 What does IOG and DL mean?

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +1

      Well DL stands for Data Link, so the system that lets the missile talk to the aircraft before it goes active. Now I have no idea what IOG stands for. Using an acronym dictionary the best I can come up with would be Input-Output Gate which may make some sense, but I'm still not convinced.

  • @francisco2559
    @francisco2559 Před rokem +1

    Are we ready for the aim-120 amraam?

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +2

      No not at all. While yes it’s an ARH missile like the Phoenix, it has a much harder radar to notch, is more maneuverable, and a lot better at lower altitudes.

  • @uphori1484
    @uphori1484 Před rokem +1

    im having reall trouble with using the r23r on the mig 23 am i just bad or do they suck

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem

      Since there is a 1.7 sec delay before the R23R begins tracking its not great in close range engagements. Anything under about 4 mi (6.4KM) is going to be very hard for the missile to hit as it wont have much time to maneuver before after it starts tracking. I went over how I used them in my mig 23m video if you want to check that out.

    • @uphori1484
      @uphori1484 Před rokem +1

      @@rampageTG thanks for the response, its just that when i directtly look at a plane my radar actually needs glasses because it dosent come up on the radar so i cant lock basicly is it just a bug or am i just stupid here lol

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +1

      @@uphori1484 There currently isn't any bugs with the MiG 23s radar that I'm aware of. What radar mode are you using?

    • @uphori1484
      @uphori1484 Před rokem +1

      @@rampageTG normal i guess? the one i spawn in with

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem

      @@uphori1484 If your just using the normal Pulse search mode you will find it difficult to find targets that you are pointing down at or are at low altitude. I plan on doing a radar guide here in the next couple weeks, but Tims Variety just put out a really good one. Here is a link to it: czcams.com/video/lF-8jutRymk/video.html
      Hopefully that will help.

  • @jeremiahhall873
    @jeremiahhall873 Před rokem

    You forgot about the kh-66 on the mig-21pfm

  • @thelocalfbi6041
    @thelocalfbi6041 Před rokem

    I read this as 4 years ago

  • @marcusborderlands6177
    @marcusborderlands6177 Před rokem +2

    Now we just need a HARM/anti rad guide... When gaijin finally adds them... :(

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +1

      Whenever they do add ARMs I'll probably put that in an updated air to ground tutorial.

  • @doomskull7549
    @doomskull7549 Před rokem

    me: has played 7k hours and my highest plane is 1.7
    also me: ah interesting

  • @tashi7594
    @tashi7594 Před rokem +1

    How do you shoot locked on missile on Xbox?

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +2

      I do not have an xbox so I'm not entirely sure. However I would suggest going into your controls look for either Fire Air-to-Air or Fire Secondary weapon. The reason I suggest using Fire Secondary Weapon instead is that it cuts down on the amount of keybinds need. Instead of needing keybinds to fire multiple types of suspended ordinance, you can set just 2. Fire Secondary weapon obviously fires the weapon, and Switch Secondary Weapon (the second one needed) will cycle through each type of weapon you have equiped.

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +2

      Did that end up helping?

    • @tashi7594
      @tashi7594 Před rokem +1

      @@rampageTG I’ll get back to you tomorrow!! But no this game really is designed for the computer so I’ll probably download it on my pc:) amazing video btw nothing really like this

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +1

      @@tashi7594 alright well I’ve got some buddies who used to play on console so I can ask them if your still having trouble figuring it out.
      I do think PC is the best way to play the game, but nothing wrong with playing on console to. I started playing on an old shitty laptop and now I’ve got my own PC I built myself. Gaijin has done a good job on getting the game to run on just about anything.

    • @tashi7594
      @tashi7594 Před rokem +1

      @@rampageTG hell yeah man and it worked thank you so much!!! And yeah I have a pc but just never got around to downloading it but do you think my progress can transfer over or am going to have to grind again 😂😭

  • @tom_disagrees451
    @tom_disagrees451 Před rokem +1

    I don’t call them danger sticks but instead air torpedos

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem

      Thats not bad either. Danger stick was the first thing that came to mind when I was trying to think of a catchy title.

  • @kocury_pl7030
    @kocury_pl7030 Před rokem +1

    Wait arent shafirs 2 uncaged

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem

      They could be now. Back when I made this video they where caged. I remember the 9D and the Shafir 2 getting swapped at some point.

    • @kocury_pl7030
      @kocury_pl7030 Před rokem

      @@rampageTG yeah now the aim9d is caged and the shafir 2 is uncaged

  • @Viper16201
    @Viper16201 Před rokem

    So that missile knows where it is by by knowing where it is by not not knowing where it is it knows where it isn’t

  • @Electric_Bagpipes
    @Electric_Bagpipes Před rokem +3

    ARRRRRR(H)

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +2

      Yea it’s not the best acronym for normal speech. Though it beats saying active radar homing every single time.

  • @MiG21fanboy
    @MiG21fanboy Před rokem +3

    As a big saclos enjoyer, i wish there where more planes with the fireflash

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem

      Yea would be interesting if we got a few more SACLOS missile planes.

    • @thomasmacdonough288
      @thomasmacdonough288 Před rokem +3

      I agree. They give a lot of versatility compared to early IR missiles. Some planes of note, early Hunter models and the Meteor NF.11 could use the Fireflash, while the Mig17PFU, Mig19 and Su9 could use the Eastern equivalent, K5. I think they'd really spice up the 8.7-9.7 meta

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +2

      @@thomasmacdonough288 As for the US I'm pretty sure the Sparrow 1 was a beam rider. The mounted some to the F3D and an earlier F3H variant got them as well.

    • @thomasmacdonough288
      @thomasmacdonough288 Před rokem

      Yep, and should we ever get the Cutlass I believe it could use them as well. And also the Firebird on the F82, but that is most definitely a dream and complete overkill. Well, unless they sell it as a prem or smth lol

  • @Buzz-vq5gz
    @Buzz-vq5gz Před rokem +1

    Aaaaaaaaaand gaijin just changed how missiles work in WT.

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +2

      Not really. If I'm reading the datamine correctly it looks like they're just reducing the warm up time for IR missiles to 1 second like SARH and ARH missiles.

    • @Buzz-vq5gz
      @Buzz-vq5gz Před rokem +1

      @@rampageTG I have been thinking about this all day, and I went to go try it out and it seems they haven’t changed the cool down/ (warm up?) times.

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem +1

      @@Buzz-vq5gz No they haven't come yet. My guess is they will come tomorrow during the server maintenance

  • @borsanyadam8768
    @borsanyadam8768 Před rokem

    immun to flares sahr aham suure always the radar change lock for tha flare

    • @rampageTG
      @rampageTG  Před rokem

      You’re running into people running mixed flare and chaff for their countermeasures. They deploy both at the same time as there is currently no way to drop one or the other. You just think it’s only flares as that’s visible while the chaff isn’t.
      I suggest you go test it for yourself with a buddy. Have him run only flares then mixed.

    • @borsanyadam8768
      @borsanyadam8768 Před rokem

      @@rampageTG erhm i tested it and yeah Mig-21s R3-r the radar did a lock the opponent one of my frend deploy ONLY FLARE and the radar instant lock the flare. Irl the radar never lock the flare you right but in wt lots of times lock the flare ohh and the chaff is visible if theye use.

  • @nicm.z9868
    @nicm.z9868 Před rokem

    Why am I watching this I don't even have jets yet