Repairing a Broken Gear Tooth Part 1 - Milling a Dovetail Slot on a Horizontal Milling Machine

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  • The process I used to repair a broken gear tooth. Includes making a holding fixture, turning a custom tool holding arbor, and milling a dovetail slot on a horizontal milling machine.
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Komentáře • 306

  • @rjmars1
    @rjmars1 Před 10 lety +11

    I spent 35 years as a machinist I always found the greatest pride came from just finding a way to get it done right. Making your own fixtures and tools is the best part and often the only way.

  • @compactc9
    @compactc9 Před 8 lety +16

    I just like the fact that there are people out there who see more than scrap metal when they find an old machine that's so rough and rusty. Its definitely not easy, or just a little work to get it going again, lots of work went into this for sure.

  • @hakimmic
    @hakimmic Před 10 lety +5

    Hi Keith,
    Love hearing that train whistle!!!!!!!
    Thank you for the video.
    George

  • @peternicholsonu6090
    @peternicholsonu6090 Před 6 lety +1

    May I apologise for some of us viewers who think we know better. We haven’t done it or videoed it as you did and am thinking not qualified to judge your workmanship. Pls keep it coming

  • @tomoakhill8825
    @tomoakhill8825 Před 4 lety +1

    Love the way you do it. When I worked in the Oldsmobile factory, decades ago, I saw the skilled-tradesmen repair a broken tooth like that. But they did it by welding onto the broken tooth, and then machining the weld into the shape of the tooth.

  • @matthewprice3830
    @matthewprice3830 Před 9 lety

    I love watching these videos of old manual machines. I am a cnc machinist/programmer and I am often humbled by the amount of skill and patience it takes to do a job like this. Thanks Keith, keep up the good work!

  • @meyawabdulaziz3863
    @meyawabdulaziz3863 Před 8 lety +2

    i watched it about 2 years ago and still watching it,,,love these videos
    excellent...

  • @atbglenn
    @atbglenn Před 8 lety +2

    Keith, I'm blown away by your talent. Amazing!

  • @rickkatz4161
    @rickkatz4161 Před 10 lety

    Didn't even have to finish the video to realize I have to subscribe . Your an artist that I can learn to utilize every tool I have at my disposal .

  • @brandonmcelroy3225
    @brandonmcelroy3225 Před 8 lety +3

    I'm new to machining, going to school and learning. Your videos are so very helpful in opening my mind to "thinking outside the box" the experience and knowledge you share are invaluable. Some of the set ups you use are extremely simple yet I would never think of something like that, and it makes me feel dim. These things weren't come up with over night, they are tried and tested methods that have been passed down. I'm just at the bottom of the mountain looking up.... So much to learn. Thanks for your videos Keith.

    • @VintageMachinery
      @VintageMachinery  Před 8 lety +7

      Thanks Brandon. The main way to learn is to get out in the shop and just start doing things. Try things out and don't be afraid of making a mistake. Experience is a great teacher! But always try to learn from those who have already been taught some of the really tough lessons. And work around as many different machinist as you can - they will all do things differently and you can learn from each and every one of them!

  • @LeonidasWestendorp
    @LeonidasWestendorp Před 10 lety +2

    You're a true artist and I loved seeing you at work. Thanks for the great video. I'm off to see part two!

  • @machinistgoalie
    @machinistgoalie Před 10 lety +1

    Outstanding job. It utilizes everything a true machinist should be able to do, from problem solving and invention to executing the actual production of the piece. A dying breed we are, a true shame, I fear for the future when know one knows how to fix or build anything. Great video.

  • @VintageMachinery
    @VintageMachinery  Před 11 lety

    No, I have a real job that pays the bills - the museum is where I go to have fun! I worked there 20 years ago when I was a student in college as a part time job to help pay for school and loved it so much that when I got out of school, I just continued to volunteer. I learned most of my machine shop skills when I worked as a machinist for several years before I went to college while I was saving up money to go. I love to make, build, and fix things, and the museum gives me that outlet!

  • @derekcollins1972
    @derekcollins1972 Před 9 lety

    Great job keith.I learned alot from you.I remember making a gear for a debarker machine for a sawmill out of T-100 plate.We used a new one as a template,free hand cut out teeth with a acetylene torch and finish with bluing and a grinder to fine fit.lol.Then bored out for a 3 inch shaft for mounting.It was an idler gear and we didnt want to mismatch a new idler with old worn gears without replacing them all as a set.It lasted for a few months before teeth started to crack and sometimes break.Then a single tooth was cut and re welded in.Just a funny story of what we can do to keep old machines running.Thanks for the vid.

  • @calicomradnot
    @calicomradnot Před 10 lety

    Amazing job, it brings to mind that old saying , Where there is a will there is a way !

  • @sarowie
    @sarowie Před 10 lety

    I Love how you take the Time to make the Tools to do the Job. I World Not have thougth, that this much effort wents into the preperation of such a Job. Thank you for the Video.

  • @MetrologyEngineer
    @MetrologyEngineer Před 6 lety +3

    If it were me I would have replaced the bushings first, and then made my fixture to fit the right sized bushing. That way if you ever needed to do work on it again you could, and if you needed to use it on a slightly worn gear you could shim it a bit.

  • @berniecarpstinkenson738
    @berniecarpstinkenson738 Před 10 lety

    Nice work i miss those old machines.
    I like your custom arbor too.

  • @robmckennie4203
    @robmckennie4203 Před 7 lety

    I've never seen an overarm support used to support a cutter like that, bloody ingenious

  • @rayquigley1327
    @rayquigley1327 Před 9 lety

    Always interesting watching a master machinist work. Damage like that would be a real problem for a kid with a CNC mill to repair.

    • @jimeditorial
      @jimeditorial Před 8 lety

      With CNC you would just make a new part....these days you can laser scan the old one. The part is symmetrical so the g code would be easy

  • @peternicholsonu6090
    @peternicholsonu6090 Před 6 lety

    Thankyou. Love what you can do and your patience letting us in on your journey.

  • @errormadef4ultz
    @errormadef4ultz Před 10 lety

    wow - highskilled machining right here!
    Very nice video!
    Thanks
    Stephan

  • @KB4QAA
    @KB4QAA Před 10 lety

    Wonderful job in explaining the beautiful logic of machining! Thanks so much.

  • @jamesmonahan1819
    @jamesmonahan1819 Před 8 lety

    I had a great time here today, and I'll be back for more.

  • @quartzsite
    @quartzsite Před 7 lety

    Nice work! Old school. Thank you.

  • @mclarpet
    @mclarpet Před 10 lety +5

    Excellent. Great machining.
    I can smell the foundry just looking at that beautiful gear.

  • @doorguru168888
    @doorguru168888 Před 10 lety

    Thanks for sharing. I just got a Horizontal Mill and this motivates me!

  • @RandallMoore1955
    @RandallMoore1955 Před 10 lety +3

    There is always time for learning something new, Thank you Keith.

  • @ablemagawitch
    @ablemagawitch Před 7 lety

    Thank you for a very well made and educational video. Your explanations during each step was above and beyond most. The explanation of why and how leads to a better understanding and judgement of application..

  • @Brainboxen
    @Brainboxen Před 10 lety

    Great video! This isn't my trade, but I always enjoy seeing a good craftsman at work!

  • @glenndavis2762
    @glenndavis2762 Před 10 lety +1

    Excellent setup Keith

  • @mikegraham7078
    @mikegraham7078 Před 7 lety

    I enjoy your videos. I spend way too much time doing electrical and automation this days, and I miss machining sometimes. The problem-solving aspect of your job would make it a very enjoyable one to have. When I thought to myself "Why is he using a 3-jaw chuck? Why isn't he boring the hole for the tool bit?" you turned between centers with a dog and my questions were answered. Very nice.
    One thing, though. That tap you were using is a spiral-point tap. You don't need to break the chip. It pushes the chips ahead of it. Since you were threading a through hole you could have put it in the machine and run it right in under power without a tapping head (as long as you can stop it before it hits the far side of the hole, that is...). Turning the tap backwards to break the chip just invites chipping the leading edges of the tap. Buy hey! I understand. Old habits die hard. :) Actually, another thing. You were using dark thread cutting oil as a lubricant on the late (believe me... I could smell the sulphur in my mind) but you used clear thread cutting oil for actual thread cutting. You prefer Tap Magic to sulphurized for hand tapping?
    Mike

  • @phooesnax
    @phooesnax Před 10 lety

    Great job from a fellow owwm'er. Looking forward to part 2.

  • @devildogmarine6681
    @devildogmarine6681 Před 10 lety

    Always great to see a metal working machinist do a good job, these skills are being lost.

  • @binks166
    @binks166 Před 10 lety

    Hi Keith,, thanks for the great videos, I enjoy watching them and I learn some new techniques. Please keep them coming,

  • @bobsandone3108
    @bobsandone3108 Před 4 lety

    Seems to be a lot of secondary work before completing the primary work. Who would have thunk it. Good work !!

  • @VintageMachinery
    @VintageMachinery  Před 11 lety

    Yes, I was running the same RPM with the dovetail cutter - 250 RPM. I ended up keeping the feed the same throughout the project as well - 1/2" per min. I probably could have pushed the feed up a notch or two, but it was cutting good and I was not in a hurry,

  • @paulpaul5606
    @paulpaul5606 Před 7 lety

    Is it just me but rusty steel becoming clean fresh steel again is just great

  • @jamesweber1827
    @jamesweber1827 Před 8 lety

    This video appeared on my play list. I watched it out of curiosity. I subscribed immediately.All I can say Keith, you sir are an artisan! Keep up the great work and videos!

    • @VintageMachinery
      @VintageMachinery  Před 8 lety

      +James Weber Thanks James - glad that you found the channel and I hope that you enjoy the projects I have going on in the shop!

  • @BreathingFire
    @BreathingFire Před 9 lety +1

    Thanks, I spend my time with pleasure during watching your video. Perfect video to open mind and think like engineer :)

  • @theprofessorfate6184
    @theprofessorfate6184 Před 10 lety

    Very interesting. I'm anxious to see how you make the tooth.

  • @gordonhood6265
    @gordonhood6265 Před 6 lety

    Tried to watch this video with my ear buds in cause everyone was asleep, not a good idea, the hammering was about to pop an eardrum. Looks like an awesome project though. Thanks for posting

  • @akhtarzaman8519
    @akhtarzaman8519 Před 10 lety +1

    Nice video & great shape.

  • @TheDisorderly1
    @TheDisorderly1 Před 10 lety +1

    Pretty amazing work. Nice job!

  • @insertname5365
    @insertname5365 Před 10 lety

    Nice machining there.
    You can also pin it then build it up using oxygen & acetylene with brazing rods. Takes a lot of heat but very strong repair. Infact the finished weld is stronger than the C.I no issues with the parent metal even near the welds.

  • @trespire
    @trespire Před 9 lety

    Nicely done job.

  • @TheeDrunkunMunky
    @TheeDrunkunMunky Před 10 lety

    Awesome, love how you make everything to fit that job too.

  • @donaldmackinnon4621
    @donaldmackinnon4621 Před 7 lety +2

    great method, wish I'd used it when repairing a broken gear tooth (not cast) I got a weld build up and had a profile of three teeth made and filed with hand file to tooth profile, hard monotonous work.

  • @bmac780
    @bmac780 Před 7 lety

    You certainly appear to know what you're doing. Nice work.

  • @raoulman1
    @raoulman1 Před 9 lety

    very nice work

  • @TheWoodbutcher66
    @TheWoodbutcher66 Před 9 lety

    Skilful stuff, Keith, compulsive viewing.

  • @gentharris
    @gentharris Před 10 lety

    That's a cool mill vice!!

  • @madaboutpix
    @madaboutpix Před 10 lety

    excellent video!
    thanks for sharing your knowledge with us!!!

  • @mikeadrover5173
    @mikeadrover5173 Před 10 lety

    “Well Done Sir” As always, thanks’ for taking the time to make this video! ~M~

  • @themainproblem
    @themainproblem Před 10 lety

    That was remarkably well done! You area superb machinist. It has been very well thought out as it should have.. Greetings from Arizona.

  • @alanhowitzer
    @alanhowitzer Před 8 lety +4

    Wow, so much work that went into this!

    • @VintageMachinery
      @VintageMachinery  Před 8 lety +1

      +Alan Fox Thanks!

    • @gorillaau
      @gorillaau Před 7 lety

      Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org The hammering at the beginning was a little annoying but the stream whistles add a wonderful ambience. How close do they get to coming though the shop? :-)

    • @user-ks9pn1fp8h
      @user-ks9pn1fp8h Před 7 lety

      Alan Fox

    • @marionkenny5753
      @marionkenny5753 Před 7 lety

      gorillaau bof g

  • @willwade1101
    @willwade1101 Před 4 lety +2

    before I retired, I used to put Dykem on the dull end to remind me.

  • @DanuAl-FLY
    @DanuAl-FLY Před 11 lety

    Impressive! Congratulations and good luck for future projects! Dan.

  • @9traktor
    @9traktor Před 7 lety

    Fine Work - well done!

  • @Kalkaekie
    @Kalkaekie Před 10 lety

    Awsome job ! Enjoyed the video !

  • @adrianrodda8695
    @adrianrodda8695 Před 9 lety

    Great video! If I could recommend a tip for a zero runout tooling arbor for the mill. Leave the cutter hole ID undersized at the lathe. Mount the arbor into the mill spindle and bore it out with a boring bar mounted to the mill's table. That's not nescecary for the big cast gear you had here, but you never know when you might need a more precise setup.

    • @gdglock
      @gdglock Před 9 lety

      Excellent reminder of how to keep tolerances intent.

  • @Aventuras_en_Moto_Hn
    @Aventuras_en_Moto_Hn Před 7 lety

    Wow,, thumbs up,, perfect video,, i Enjoy every minute,,,

  • @VintageMachinery
    @VintageMachinery  Před 11 lety

    I will either braze or silver solder the tooth in place, I have not decided yet. As to building up with weld and re-cutting it, I did consider that but chose not to go that route for two reasons. First, because of the flange at the back of the gear, it would be hard to cut the tooth because you can not cut all the way through, and second, because it is cast iron and welding to cast is not as strong as steel.

  • @alexpowers3697
    @alexpowers3697 Před 8 lety

    You make awesome videos--thanks!!!

  • @dennyskerb4992
    @dennyskerb4992 Před 10 lety

    Two thumbs up Keith. Maybe try the Tom Lipton silicone bronze brazing sticks.

  • @VintageMachinery
    @VintageMachinery  Před 11 lety

    The lathe we have out at the museum is a Lodge & Shipley 16" Model X lathe. I have not been able to find a serial number on it to date it but suspect that it was probably built in the late 1940's or early 1950's. The museum acquired it in the early 1980's off of government surplus and it came from the Savannah River Nuclear Plant in SC. It has seen very little use over the years...

    • @marvinblankinchip2535
      @marvinblankinchip2535 Před 6 lety

      Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org ... Does that lathe glow in the dark?

  • @davidclay1362
    @davidclay1362 Před 10 lety

    I see the best of everything good about the usa in this video.

  • @user-vs4xo1po9t
    @user-vs4xo1po9t Před 8 lety

    Using the upper and lower feed wheel feed,the momentum wheels 5 groups,5 groups simultaneously under strong feed and can be variable transmission.

  • @wgoldenny
    @wgoldenny Před 10 lety

    Kool beans learned some stuff today Thank you

  • @W4BIN
    @W4BIN Před 8 lety

    I am surprised that Keith didn't press out the badly worn bushings out and make the hold down tool fit the hole in the cast iron.

  • @billsargent3407
    @billsargent3407 Před 2 lety

    How far you have come in 8 years! AND you lost weight!

  • @frankpattisr2250
    @frankpattisr2250 Před 8 lety

    Thank You, I really learned a lot.
    Frank Patti Sr.

  • @VintageMachinery
    @VintageMachinery  Před 10 lety

    While I agree that my lathe can take bigger cuts than what I am cutting, my limitation is in some of my tooling, which is quite honestly a bit on the small size for this lathe. Right now, I am taking cuts that I am comfortable with based on my past experience and experiments. I am planning on investing in some larger tooling soon, which should allow me to hog off more material in a single pass.

  • @1aarondixon
    @1aarondixon Před 8 lety

    great work love your channel

  • @michaelrodriguez-fb8fr
    @michaelrodriguez-fb8fr Před 10 lety

    great work!!!

  • @namrur2
    @namrur2 Před 9 lety

    Very nice work, but geometrical, both nearby teeth will be much much weaker now. Expeecially from a force on the side of the teeth which faces the replacement tooth. It will pull the tooth out in some time. A better solution would be to smooth all the teeth into a round shaft, and installing a new gear as a bushing using high temparture on the gear and use a press. I bleave the right gear can be found and modified, but it seems this guy have also the skills to creat one.

  • @CosgroveNotts
    @CosgroveNotts Před 10 lety

    I liked this.

  • @yanntwelve
    @yanntwelve Před 10 lety

    Amazing repair work, passion and patience ! Congrats !

  • @hawkie333
    @hawkie333 Před 10 lety +1

    Man...a lot of extra work with the arbor, etc.....but sometimes it's better to take the long way 'round if you know you get good reliable results every time.

  • @nogheavictor64
    @nogheavictor64 Před 8 lety

    WAOO !
    IS Incredible !

  • @Dookiedolf
    @Dookiedolf Před 10 lety +1

    Nice seeing how much work goes into something like this.
    How would this have been fixed back in the days when these machines were in commercial use? Would the same process of dovetailing a new tooth be used or the entire gear wheel replaced with a new casting ?

  • @radarmus
    @radarmus Před 10 lety +1

    Very interresting to see, now I know it is called ducktale. :-)

    • @A2ZGAMEGUIDESX
      @A2ZGAMEGUIDESX Před 8 lety

      +Mads Thorup Dovetail* not being a smartass just checking you now know

  • @AfricanSouthernCross
    @AfricanSouthernCross Před 9 lety

    Brilliant !!!!

  • @keldsor
    @keldsor Před 11 lety

    Interesting job you got there - I don't think there is too much meat left in to the bushing but the soldering maybe will add the strength back again ... or ?

  • @petergregory5286
    @petergregory5286 Před 10 lety +1

    Hi, Really interesting the way you've set about this problem. What are they going to do when they finally run out of skilled Machinists? Regards.

  • @markkrick8602
    @markkrick8602 Před 9 lety

    An easy way to tell the difference is the chip it leaves, if is a spiral its steel, if its dust it's cast

  • @qwwesaz
    @qwwesaz Před 10 lety

    Великолепный мастер!!!

  • @fnordhorn
    @fnordhorn Před 6 lety

    You can mark the bad side of a Center Point drill with Finger nail polish (red is good). That would remind you what side is bad

  • @VintageMachinery
    @VintageMachinery  Před 10 lety

    Yeah, I know. I am working on trying something different for the audio on these videos that will hopefully pick up my comments better.

  • @melgross
    @melgross Před 3 lety

    The tooth, to the right of the broken one, as viewed from the top, is bent to the right. By a large amount. I wonder how it’s going to mesh? It was likely bent when the other tooth broke off. You can see where metal was scraped off when the problem occurred.

  • @knottreel
    @knottreel Před 10 lety +2

    This is absolutely amazing work. I'm just curious if you considered sand casting another complete gear. I did sand casting in my early years. University foundries are a good place to have specialty items made.

    • @gorillaau
      @gorillaau Před 7 lety

      Knott Reel Perhaps time was a factor. In order to cast another gear, you would need to make a pattern to create the sand mold. Metal shrinks when it cools.

  • @seveno1
    @seveno1 Před 10 lety +1

    Thank you for the video ...what sort of load does a tooth experience and is it shared

  • @drawvenmusket
    @drawvenmusket Před 10 lety +1

    Keith, you are doing great work, this mecgine will be a great adition to the colection, my question is about how will the story of the planer matcher be told, live or staticly and will you adress the restoration too

  • @jeffryblackmon4846
    @jeffryblackmon4846 Před 8 lety +4

    Very impressed with your technique and your expert machining, Your comments are helpful for those who may be unfamiliar with machining. I'm subscribed- keep up the good work! I'd like to know the name and location of that RR museum. Thanks,.

    • @VintageMachinery
      @VintageMachinery  Před 8 lety

      Thanks for the sub - the museum is the Georgia Museum of Agriculture in Tifton, GA

    • @jeffryblackmon4846
      @jeffryblackmon4846 Před 8 lety

      I also learned that in your very next installation! It has a nice website.

  • @tristanmacmillan15
    @tristanmacmillan15 Před 10 lety

    you should get more views dude

  • @roeng1368
    @roeng1368 Před 11 lety

    I have to say the good thing about your video, is it shows how versatile the horizontal milling machine can be. I have one and find it great for removing lots of metal quickly. Also how do you intend to hold the new tooth in ? Brazing ? Did you consider building up the broken tooth with weld and recutting it ?

  • @safefix
    @safefix Před 10 lety +3

    Just wondering how you aligned the rotation of the gear wheel/broken tooth to the arbor/mill axis. Was it just eyeballed? It is skipped in the video.

  • @roeng1368
    @roeng1368 Před 11 lety

    Clever idea dovetailing it like that, will it be strong enough do you think ?

  • @grayem76
    @grayem76 Před 10 lety

    i love your work mate but surely welding the tooth would look more authentic and save days of work

  • @SGregW
    @SGregW Před 9 lety

    Very clever use of the horizontal mill with your improvised extended tool holder Keith. I love the old K&T mills! Next time if you want a cutter arbor to run true, drill undersize, indicate the arbor concentric, then single-point bore the hole. I guess it didn't really matter that you had runout in your extended holder since you got the job done handily. What brand is that stout old vise on your vertical mill? I like the simple reversible v-block jaws.