There needs to be more locking ability. Especially for pitch , its annoying to tune a sample then if I randomize I have to retune it. Also if I don't want the effects on, there should be a way to randomize without them turning back on. There should be the ability to lock one of the 4 channels, if I like something on one channel and want to randomize the rest that would be ideal. Density, Syncopation and Symmetry should be able to be locked as well. It would be also cool to be able to randomize the sample slices and keep the same rhythm if I like it. Just some feedback @xlnaudio
To be honest, this kind of features, including the features of life, would have been a perfect addition to XO. I don't know why life is a standalone version.. It would have been a perfect way to make a new XO version instead. I'm working regularly with XO and i love it. But it's still missing features and improvements. Hope to see some additions there soon :)
Interesting, but this should have been a part of XO or XO2. System is almost same as XO plugin except sample import is easier with mobile phone using dedicated app. I feel tempted at a first glance, but I think it is too expensive for what it does even with intro price. And I do not know why can't still do the half speed tempo when I sync it to my DAW.
I disagree. It's a concept on its own and they simply made a familiar interface for consistency. There are MANY features I want to see in XO2 (what a depressing situation that is, so much potential and agreement by customers) yet keep it simple and stable. However, although I have to dig deeper into this, I do want to see complete integration. Easily dragging the beats, samples and kits instantly INTO XO (possible now?), for instance. I do understand how this may seem to lean towards combining them but I still disagree for now. Plus, I can imagine there are people who would want this who want nothing to do with XO. I can think of 3 people right now. Just my thoughts and I'm flexible to change. :) Furthermore, there is a ton of tech that went into this irrelevant to XO and those users, justifying a price. Why increase the price of XO for this? I think that would anger some users who don't need this and are waiting for the much needed XO2 features. I believe XLN thought this through and its not a money grab.
Have you tried it? Because it’s awesome. It’s so much fun and it’s such an interesting and different plugin. Finally, a new idea in a space that often feels pretty derivative. In terms of the price, I think it’s reasonable, especially when you consider it has cloud sync without an ongoing subscription fee. Free mobile app, too.
I'm actually not terribly interested in "foley beats" which can be a bit cliché. It's also not at all hard take any recording from your phone and drop it into any kind of sampler with a rhythmic focus such as Battery or Serato, and sculpt the sounds from there. However, I could see this being cool for dropping tonal and vocal samples in to chop them up, randomize, and see what interesting results happen, the kind of things I may have never thought of. A bit expensive for what it is, though...
Love the concept of this although after trying for a few hours one major thing stands out. The power of this is clearly in the randomizer but I find the randomizer always gives patterns that feel much too urgent or "fast", giving quite an anxious feeling. It would be great if you could change the timing to say half or double time. Even better if you could do this per track too but I'd honestly just take a master. Everything else seems quite well thought out though!
Really wish we could get an XO update. Seems that instead of adding features customers have been asked for in XO. You just created an entirely new plugin for those features. Also Im wary of the app. Seems like another way to get more customer data.
Great question! The main use case for Life is not to load sampled drums. You could definitely do it and you could get some nice results, but Life really shines when you load other stuff than sampled drums. I can't give you any dates or details about future releases, but Addictive Drums is still really popular and it's the reason that we've been able to make all these other great products so we definitely haven't abandoned it.
@@xlnaudioit sounds like you have though, it has been 7 years without any new content. You should come back from your misadventures back to the product people want the most and which has paid for everything
I'm reading a lot of hate online and on fora becaus of the TOS that everything that is (automatically) uploaded is owned and can be used by XLN. Dear people at XLN, i think its wise to change the TOS or at least come with a statement to reassure the worried people that potentially refrain from buying the plugin because of this! i'm currently on the trial period but having serious doubts because of this. Hope that the TOS can be changed before I have to decide.
Here's an article about the Life TOS: support.xlnaudio.com/hc/en-us/articles/15342589639453-You-own-your-music-and-recordings-Period- Don't hesitate to reach out to customer support if you have any questions: www.xlnaudio.com/support
This is by far my new favourite plugin. It’s interesting, unique, innovative and extremely fun. It comes with cloud sync and no subscription fee (hurray). It’s beautifully designed. You can go for a walk, grab a few field recordings and when you get to the studio, get totally lost in the magic. Honestly if you haven’t tried it out, get the free trial and give it a spin!
Awesome plugin with unbelievable cool results. I just wish I could save a preset including the beat shortlist. at the moment, I create a shortlist with various beats and then have to save them all 1by1 as separate beats. would be great to save more beats (shortlist) at once. 👍🏻
READ this should ring your alarmbells and raise red flag: (7) For the purposes of enabling XLN Audio to enhance its Software and services, including by use of machine learning and for AI training purposes, the Customer grants to XLN Audio the following license: a) a non-exclusive, irrevocable, free-of-charge, worldwide, perpetual, transferable, sublicensable license to access, analyze, copy, store, modify, create derivatives from, make available to the public and otherwise use, in any manner and media, all Created Music Work and any parts thereof, including but not limited to any recordings, stems, loops, sounds, samples, presets, MIDI files and underlying compositions (if any), and any other material generated by the Customer in connection with the use of the Software; b) to the extent applicable and permittable under applicable law, you waive any so-called “moral rights” in relation to the license in paragraph 6(7) a) above; c) for the avoidance of doubt, paragraph 6(7) a) and b) above shall apply also to Created Music Work created by the Customer during the Trial Period, regardless of whether the Customer exercises its right to withdraw in accordance with paragraph 5 above....
Hi! We know the legal language can come off as pretty intense, but (as musicians ourselves) we really don’t think there’s any need for alarm bells or red flags. Part of Life is doing things intelligently and musically, and the way to improve these models is by using actual user data. So we just want to keep improving things for our products/users.
@@xlnaudio Your TOS is pretty clear to me. It clearly says basically the user agrees to grant XLN Audio AB non-exclusive copyright of the samples and/or MIDI data so XLN Audio can do whatever they want with it. Even commercially. Yes this raises a red fleg and rings all alarmbells to me and should do to others as well. Who wants to pay $150 and literally give away the copyright of own samples to a company.?! This is bizarre. Even if you now say you will not do thst, why do you write it in your TOS then??? This is just shady.
@@BruteWillisYou have hit the nail on the head. The reality is they can do what ever they like with this agreement I like the look of this but I am very unsure if I should take the plunge. For me the question is why do the samples have to be uploaded to the cloud unless that's how the software mangles the loops @xlnaudio you may be musicians and I have no reason to doubt that you have good intentions but say if in a few years you sell your company. Who's to say that the new owners will not completely abuse this agreement
@@xlnaudioyou may be musicians and I have no reason to doubt that you have good intentions but say if in a few years you sell your company. Who's to say that the new owners will not completely abuse this agreement
@@fischergreen4134 not sure why you trust business people blindly. Look... IF they have no bad intentions, why do they create such TOS anyway??? It's a very shady TOS and they know 95% of the users don't even read it and buy it anyway. But for me this look very shady and bad business ethics. I will not buy it and recommend others not to buy it.
Yes, that's cool and all, but I'm not going to upload my samples and audio to a cloud or server. Every time there is a nice and promising idea, someone has to destroy the concept. And this time, the developers themselves made a mistake. This could have gone through the roof and become the next breakthrough plugin in the music industry, but in my opinion, it wasn't as successful as it could have been due to the need for an app and the online requirement.
I'm so in love with it. A bit of performance issues when the GUI is open, but it is so awesome. I am thrilled for the upcoming years of technical gems.
Thanks for the kind words! Sorry to hear about the performance issues. Do they go away if you go into Settings (via the top right button) and disable "Use OpenGL for hardware accelearation"? Feel free to reach out to customer support if that doesn't help: www.xlnaudio.com/install
It was only a matter of time before you did this, I suppose. Very cool! Do you support sequence lengths other than 16 beats yet? (That was the reason I never bought XO.)
@@xlnaudio You guys always say " Feedback noted" but give actually act upon the request. Not only would it be nice for new features to be added to XO but XO literally have stability problems. The last XO update was two Mac OS's ago. Cmon
@@thebookofeli9758 There shouldn't be any stabilty issues with XO. Please contact the support team and they will look into this for you: www.xlnaudio.com/support
Was about to buy... read the TOS and I'm out. Unless that gets change I'm good... No way I'm having someone tell me what they can and I can't do with MY work because it's in their cloud.
@@tendingtropic7778 random sounds?? Says who? I could be uploading ANYTHING to make randomness from. What I upload is private and shouldn’t be available to anyone else but me.
Here's an article that clarifies that part of the TOS: support.xlnaudio.com/hc/en-us/articles/15342589639453-You-own-your-music-and-recordings-Period- Don't hesitate to reach out to customer support if you have further questions: www.xlnaudio.com/support
Maybe it's an encrypted file? Some samples that come with Ableton Live, for instance, are encrypted and can only be loaded in Live (even though the files end in .wav). Please reach out to support if you need further assistance: www.xlnaudio.com/support
They also state in their TOS basically you allow them you keep and use YOUR samples so they can use it commercially in future products. Ridiculous! Avoid this plugin and company, unless you want to buy it, pay them AND give them free samples 🤣🤣🤣
READ this should ring your alarmbells and raise red flag: (7) For the purposes of enabling XLN Audio to enhance its Software and services, including by use of machine learning and for AI training purposes, the Customer grants to XLN Audio the following license: a) a non-exclusive, irrevocable, free-of-charge, worldwide, perpetual, transferable, sublicensable license to access, analyze, copy, store, modify, create derivatives from, make available to the public and otherwise use, in any manner and media, all Created Music Work and any parts thereof, including but not limited to any recordings, stems, loops, sounds, samples, presets, MIDI files and underlying compositions (if any), and any other material generated by the Customer in connection with the use of the Software; b) to the extent applicable and permittable under applicable law, you waive any so-called “moral rights” in relation to the license in paragraph 6(7) a) above; c) for the avoidance of doubt, paragraph 6(7) a) and b) above shall apply also to Created Music Work created by the Customer during the Trial Period, regardless of whether the Customer exercises its right to withdraw in accordance with paragraph 5 above.
Hi - we’re not being devious here I can assure you 🙂 The cloud is a great way to enable things you capture on your phone to instantly appear in the plugin. Our intention is for users to not be limited by this in any way unless they’re using it for non-musical purposes
@@xlnaudio what do you mean with non musical purposes? can I still use my loops generated with life in a track that I perhaps later publish or put on a record?
more than anything I want a version of this plugin for my iPhone or iPad... why do I wanna have to use my phone and my desktop when I could be doing all of it on the fly wherever I am!!!........ come on XLN!!
It would be really cool to make beats on the fly! Making the main Life software work on smart phones and tablets is an entirely different beast from what we have done. But who knows what the future holds. Thanks for the feedback!
@@xlnaudio well I always have my phone and iPad with me, it would be wonderful to be able to use the plugin on those devices... and just to let you know I own rc-20 and XO as well... I would rather make the sketching of a whole groove while I'm out and about and bring that back to the computer rather than just collect sounds and have to wait till I'm back with my computer...... thank you for responding and thank you for your consideration.
Yes, Life uses 8 channels with sample slices grouped into 4 lanes, so some lanes might have more than one sample slice (playing alternating hits) depending on your current Life setup. You can use separate outputs for these 4 lanes as well as the master. Just click on the "M" on each lane to select the output channel. There's an "M" at the bottom right of Life as well, for the master channel.
I haven't delved too deeply into this other than watch a few CZcams demo's but at first glance and already being a big fan of XO, I'd say this has borrowed a fair chunk of something that's already in existence, stuck a fancier graphical interface on it and added auto/semi-intelligent sample chopping to make it more immediately accesible to casual users... which should probably have been an XO update rather than a separate plugin. Considering XO is currently only 20 Euro's more than Life, it seems over priced and a bit over hyped for what it's actually doing. XO is way more bang for your buck but takes some deeper diving to really get the most out of it.
@@xlnaudio I didn’t have a chance last night but I will this evening. The methods I employ in XO to create percussive top lines are already very similar though… and quite difficult to describe in text (at least in a short format, instructional sense). There’s two main methods… one uses the built in sequencer in conjunction with the beat combinator (randomising and locking patterns as I go) with DAW transport sync switched on, the other uses MIDI parts in combination with Ableton’s MIDI clip editing functions, with transport sync switched off and no sequencer pattern in XO. Both methods utilise custom sample folders and the folder search/filter panel. I could elaborate on a few more stages in each of those methods but text isn’t the best for trying to describe them. Either way can produce happy accidents and combination of DAW + XO gives extreme control over those. I did read your reply to another user’s comment about XO getting an update soon and I’m hoping some of Life’s original ideas get added, which would make it a real game changer in terms of more efficient workflow, instead of chopping samples outside of XO. I will try Life and I’ll be more than ok with coming back here to say I’m wrong but at the moment, I can’t see it being a worthwhile addition to work alongside XO, although I do get why some people might prefer to use it for inspiration etc as a separate plugin.
Thanks for a very long reply and speaking your mind! I'll forward this to the product team, we listen to all your feedback and want to make updates to the other products really soon, trust me :-) @@slingshot_uk
@@xlnaudio Nothing ever gets forwarded to the " Product team" we the customers have been asking for XO updates and it never happens. XO doesn't work for me in LPX. it has stability issues.
To anyone interested in this, know that XLN updated their Terms & Services so that they can use, copy, store, sell, you name it, any music/audio you upload. Deeply concerning behaviour.
Here's an official statement on this part of the Terms Of Service: support.xlnaudio.com/hc/en-us/articles/15342589639453-You-own-your-music-and-recordings-Period- Please reach out to customer support if you have any questions: www.xlnaudio.com/support
That's whack, won't be buying into that noise... their terms of service states that they effectively can do anything with all of the source material and the stems/beats, etc created from them.. so including storing, modifying, making derivatives from , blah blah and publishing and/or selling it back to you or others, in some way shape or form, all the while also stating .... b) the Customer is legally responsible for any material included in the Created Music Work, including any samples created by the Customer when using the Software; c) the Customer shall indemnify and hold XLN Audio, its licensees and assigns harmless from all damages, liabilities and costs resulting from third party claims of infringement or violation of intellectual property rights or other rights of any third party.
The main reason Life is using a Cloud service is to enable syncing recordings from the Life Field Recorder to the Life plugin in your DAW without any extra steps. Having access to the recordings and beats from our users also enables us to improve on the service by training our machine learning models on real user data. In Life there are currently two machine learning models which enable auto-denoising and smart pattern variations. We have no intention to use your data for any other purposes than to make the experience of using our products continuously better. We will not share or sell your samples.
@@xlnaudio this is wat people need to hear, many fora like gearspace are very negative about your TOS. it would be better if you come with an official statement. I understand that everything you record with the app hast to go via the cloud, but why are the beats/loops you make with life in the vst also stored in the cloud? and if you use the daw recorder to record sounds, why are these saved in the cloud? your explanation here doesnt make 100% sense?
Why is it that you can’t add the language in the TOS that explicitly states that You won’t/cant use our samples unless for machine learning. Your statement about not wanting to sell samples is a whisper compared to the strong language used in TOS that explicitly states you can do exactly what your saying “you won’t” …let’s just be honest, you all went too far, the language is almost demoralizing and takes away our ability to protect our work even in the event we feel “morally” victimized..really?..that’s ridiculous to add in a TOD based on what you “claim” your uses are for..We need a more clarified statement or TOS. If it’s truly just for research purposes, you should be able to clearly state that in TOS so that we are not literally..literally..signing our creations away. There is no reason why these things can’t be clarified better in the TOS and why more information or statements to put potential users minds at ease. If even Spectrasonics can change their TOS after consumers responses and update it to make it more clear and trusting. Then you should be able to as well. It wouldn’t be talked about this much if it wasn’t a problem.
@@gottabeclassic1154 imo the problem is that “for research / product improvements“ in the context of developing current and future ai tools doesn’t negate that they can‘t really guarantee that the same or very similar sounds and musical ideas won’t make it into multiple users work or into the content of their own products.
WARNING! - This plugin has to be a hook. Look what I found in their terms and conditions! (7) XLN Audio reserves the right to impose limitations on the volume of Customer cloud storage as deemed necessary. The cloud will become a subscription. Space is not free. First I was interested but I knew something was off about the Cloud. Hard pass from me. No no no. Moreover, they will charge for storage all while using what we upload as the dataset to develop more AI.
Hi! The plugin uses the cloud to enable the workflow, and we ideally want people to use Life to make music without any limitations, just trying to make things as smooth as possible between different devices. I can assure you, we have no ulterior motives :)
@@xlnaudio The problem is companies are screwing customers in cold ways these days. And with cloud storage there is no way that space will not become an issue. If XLN adds the clause "We will never charge for cloud storage" in their terms and agreements I will buy this plugin. Until then, this plugin is not for me.
A little more than that. It analyzes your recordings, pull samples from it that best match different criteria in a drum kit, and generates beats and variations on the fly. And everything is 100% editable so you always have granular control. Try it for free!
Ugh, the era of Gen Z music apps are upon us. Hang on to your hardware. Music software is about get really gross, over-complicated, over-priced, and under-good
Nice app, but as we say in Germany, nice is the smaller brother of shit. The automation sucks. Non of the variatiob nacros are automatable. This needs to be added.
Great now I can rhythmically listen to myself yelling at my kid
Try slapping it. Will be a banger!
There needs to be more locking ability. Especially for pitch , its annoying to tune a sample then if I randomize I have to retune it. Also if I don't want the effects on, there should be a way to randomize without them turning back on. There should be the ability to lock one of the 4 channels, if I like something on one channel and want to randomize the rest that would be ideal. Density, Syncopation and Symmetry should be able to be locked as well. It would be also cool to be able to randomize the sample slices and keep the same rhythm if I like it. Just some feedback @xlnaudio
Great feedback, I'll forward this to the LIfe team
To be honest, this kind of features, including the features of life, would have been a perfect addition to XO. I don't know why life is a standalone version.. It would have been a perfect way to make a new XO version instead. I'm working regularly with XO and i love it. But it's still missing features and improvements. Hope to see some additions there soon :)
Interesting, but this should have been a part of XO or XO2. System is almost same as XO plugin except sample import is easier with mobile phone using dedicated app. I feel tempted at a first glance, but I think it is too expensive for what it does even with intro price. And I do not know why can't still do the half speed tempo when I sync it to my DAW.
I disagree. It's a concept on its own and they simply made a familiar interface for consistency. There are MANY features I want to see in XO2 (what a depressing situation that is, so much potential and agreement by customers) yet keep it simple and stable. However, although I have to dig deeper into this, I do want to see complete integration. Easily dragging the beats, samples and kits instantly INTO XO (possible now?), for instance. I do understand how this may seem to lean towards combining them but I still disagree for now. Plus, I can imagine there are people who would want this who want nothing to do with XO. I can think of 3 people right now. Just my thoughts and I'm flexible to change. :) Furthermore, there is a ton of tech that went into this irrelevant to XO and those users, justifying a price. Why increase the price of XO for this? I think that would anger some users who don't need this and are waiting for the much needed XO2 features. I believe XLN thought this through and its not a money grab.
I'll wait for 70 percent off 😊
True words😊
Thought the same
Have you tried it? Because it’s awesome. It’s so much fun and it’s such an interesting and different plugin. Finally, a new idea in a space that often feels pretty derivative. In terms of the price, I think it’s reasonable, especially when you consider it has cloud sync without an ongoing subscription fee. Free mobile app, too.
A_MA_ZING... bought it and It's astonishing!!! Well done guys, fabulous and a game changer VST!!!❣🙏💯
More drum kits for AD2 please, tighter, more punchy funky snares , hihats and splash cymbals !
One might say this is a Life altering plug-in! 😍
I bought it instantly! What I miss is the ability to lock density and the ability to load samples without sending them to the cloud.
Love it! I bought this right away and already used it in a track.
Been in the ditch with writer's block, this is powerful tool to overcome that. Thank you!
I'm actually not terribly interested in "foley beats" which can be a bit cliché. It's also not at all hard take any recording from your phone and drop it into any kind of sampler with a rhythmic focus such as Battery or Serato, and sculpt the sounds from there. However, I could see this being cool for dropping tonal and vocal samples in to chop them up, randomize, and see what interesting results happen, the kind of things I may have never thought of. A bit expensive for what it is, though...
Wow! This looks AMAZING!!
This is awesome, ahead of the game with this 👌
Love the concept of this although after trying for a few hours one major thing stands out. The power of this is clearly in the randomizer but I find the randomizer always gives patterns that feel much too urgent or "fast", giving quite an anxious feeling. It would be great if you could change the timing to say half or double time. Even better if you could do this per track too but I'd honestly just take a master. Everything else seems quite well thought out though!
All I wanted for christmas was addictive drums 3, or even an adpak, and got this .. thing
Really wish we could get an XO update. Seems that instead of adding features customers have been asked for in XO. You just created an entirely new plugin for those features. Also Im wary of the app. Seems like another way to get more customer data.
This is the best App/Plugin/Sampler/Field recorder/Idea ever!!
I just made a new track idea with it! Nice work!!! 🙌
#amazing
I'd take it for 30,-
Same question as for XO: why cant we import the AD2 Samples? And any chance for AD3 in near Future…?
Ad2 samples are already in XO
Proprietarianism
Great question! The main use case for Life is not to load sampled drums. You could definitely do it and you could get some nice results, but Life really shines when you load other stuff than sampled drums. I can't give you any dates or details about future releases, but Addictive Drums is still really popular and it's the reason that we've been able to make all these other great products so we definitely haven't abandoned it.
@@xlnaudioit sounds like you have though, it has been 7 years without any new content. You should come back from your misadventures back to the product people want the most and which has paid for everything
Nooooo waaaaaaay, best tool I've seen in a while
I'm reading a lot of hate online and on fora becaus of the TOS that everything that is (automatically) uploaded is owned and can be used by XLN. Dear people at XLN, i think its wise to change the TOS or at least come with a statement to reassure the worried people that potentially refrain from buying the plugin because of this! i'm currently on the trial period but having serious doubts because of this. Hope that the TOS can be changed before I have to decide.
Here's an article about the Life TOS:
support.xlnaudio.com/hc/en-us/articles/15342589639453-You-own-your-music-and-recordings-Period-
Don't hesitate to reach out to customer support if you have any questions:
www.xlnaudio.com/support
@@xlnaudioGood to know
This is by far my new favourite plugin. It’s interesting, unique, innovative and extremely fun. It comes with cloud sync and no subscription fee (hurray). It’s beautifully designed. You can go for a walk, grab a few field recordings and when you get to the studio, get totally lost in the magic. Honestly if you haven’t tried it out, get the free trial and give it a spin!
That beat withe the dog bark goes HARD!!!! lol
Alas, an update to AD2 would have been much more exciting.
you guys are crazy! this is incredible
qué buena idea!!!! muy buen trabajo!!!
Wow,awesome 💪🏻
Addictive Drums 3, please!
Would be awesome ,if XO had a mapable rund9mize button as well.
Life looks sick thpugh
Addictive Drums 3 please. we are ready.
Amazing!
Awesome plugin with unbelievable cool results. I just wish I could save a preset including the beat shortlist. at the moment, I create a shortlist with various beats and then have to save them all 1by1 as separate beats. would be great to save more beats (shortlist) at once. 👍🏻
READ this should ring your alarmbells and raise red flag: (7) For the purposes of enabling XLN Audio to enhance its Software and services, including by use of machine learning and for AI training purposes, the Customer grants to XLN Audio the following license:
a) a non-exclusive, irrevocable, free-of-charge, worldwide, perpetual, transferable, sublicensable license to access, analyze, copy, store, modify, create derivatives from, make available to the public and otherwise use, in any manner and media, all Created Music Work and any parts thereof, including but not limited to any recordings, stems, loops, sounds, samples, presets, MIDI files and underlying compositions (if any), and any other material generated by the Customer in connection with the use of the Software;
b) to the extent applicable and permittable under applicable law, you waive any so-called “moral rights” in relation to the license in paragraph 6(7) a) above;
c) for the avoidance of doubt, paragraph 6(7) a) and b) above shall apply also to Created Music Work created by the Customer during the Trial Period, regardless of whether the Customer exercises its right to withdraw in accordance with paragraph 5 above....
Hi! We know the legal language can come off as pretty intense, but (as musicians ourselves) we really don’t think there’s any need for alarm bells or red flags. Part of Life is doing things intelligently and musically, and the way to improve these models is by using actual user data. So we just want to keep improving things for our products/users.
@@xlnaudio Your TOS is pretty clear to me. It clearly says basically the user agrees to grant XLN Audio AB non-exclusive copyright of the samples and/or MIDI data so XLN Audio can do whatever they want with it. Even commercially. Yes this raises a red fleg and rings all alarmbells to me and should do to others as well. Who wants to pay $150 and literally give away the copyright of own samples to a company.?! This is bizarre. Even if you now say you will not do thst, why do you write it in your TOS then??? This is just shady.
@@BruteWillisYou have hit the nail on the head. The reality is they can do what ever they like with this agreement I like the look of this but I am very unsure if I should take the plunge. For me the question is why do the samples have to be uploaded to the cloud unless that's how the software mangles the loops @xlnaudio you may be musicians and I have no reason to doubt that you have good intentions but say if in a few years you sell your company. Who's to say that the new owners will not completely abuse this agreement
@@xlnaudioyou may be musicians and I have no reason to doubt that you have good intentions but say if in a few years you sell your company. Who's to say that the new owners will not completely abuse this agreement
@@fischergreen4134 not sure why you trust business people blindly. Look... IF they have no bad intentions, why do they create such TOS anyway??? It's a very shady TOS and they know 95% of the users don't even read it and buy it anyway. But for me this look very shady and bad business ethics. I will not buy it and recommend others not to buy it.
I hope to see a huge amount of presets here and decent hi hats engine
new favorite plugin
yay
Yes, that's cool and all, but I'm not going to upload my samples and audio to a cloud or server. Every time there is a nice and promising idea, someone has to destroy the concept. And this time, the developers themselves made a mistake. This could have gone through the roof and become the next breakthrough plugin in the music industry, but in my opinion, it wasn't as successful as it could have been due to the need for an app and the online requirement.
AMAZING!!!!
OK, that's really cool!
I'm so in love with it. A bit of performance issues when the GUI is open, but it is so awesome. I am thrilled for the upcoming years of technical gems.
Thanks for the kind words! Sorry to hear about the performance issues. Do they go away if you go into Settings (via the top right button) and disable "Use OpenGL for hardware accelearation"? Feel free to reach out to customer support if that doesn't help:
www.xlnaudio.com/install
@@xlnaudio I'm embarrassed, I haven't checked this before. It works. Big THX :*
That's amazing
Dope plugin for sure
Very cool!
It was only a matter of time before you did this, I suppose. Very cool! Do you support sequence lengths other than 16 beats yet? (That was the reason I never bought XO.)
The current versions of Life and XO don't support longer sequence lengths. Feedback noted!
@@xlnaudio You guys always say " Feedback noted" but give actually act upon the request. Not only would it be nice for new features to be added to XO but XO literally have stability problems. The last XO update was two Mac OS's ago. Cmon
@@xlnaudio Thank you - I wasn't just talking about longer though. I also meant arbitrary loop points, e.g. 14 beats, or 11.
@@thebookofeli9758 There shouldn't be any stabilty issues with XO. Please contact the support team and they will look into this for you:
www.xlnaudio.com/support
😐No AD or XO updates?
They are coming 👍
@@xlnaudio I'll hold you to that! 😧
Was about to buy... read the TOS and I'm out. Unless that gets change I'm good... No way I'm having someone tell me what they can and I can't do with MY work because it's in their cloud.
what work? to be fair you are just uploading some random sounds to make beats? its not like your uploading your entire daw project right?
@@tendingtropic7778 random sounds?? Says who? I could be uploading ANYTHING to make randomness from. What I upload is private and shouldn’t be available to anyone else but me.
Here's an article that clarifies that part of the TOS:
support.xlnaudio.com/hc/en-us/articles/15342589639453-You-own-your-music-and-recordings-Period-
Don't hesitate to reach out to customer support if you have further questions:
www.xlnaudio.com/support
Awesome, perfect for too many creative applications
Do we really need to make loops from the cats meows?
WOW!
So Cool so fine
What model is this tabletop screen?
when the individual parts of a sample are mapped to midi and i change the tempo are all the parts that i'd play also changed to match the new tempo?
If I understand your question correctly, then yes 🙂
This is fun
so nuts
When I try to load a WAV or MP3 loop It says that It's not an audio file, does anybody know why this happens??
Maybe it's an encrypted file? Some samples that come with Ableton Live, for instance, are encrypted and can only be loaded in Live (even though the files end in .wav). Please reach out to support if you need further assistance:
www.xlnaudio.com/support
quick question, do is it needed to be connected to the internet to use this plugin? and is it possible to NOT use the cloud to load samples?
You need to be connected to the internet - it's not possible to use Life without the cloud features unfortunately.
@@xlnaudio got it, thank you very much for replying!
what if I got no life or friends
Remember that this is CLOUD base BASED plugin!
Be ready for limitations or subscription
They also state in their TOS basically you allow them you keep and use YOUR samples so they can use it commercially in future products. Ridiculous! Avoid this plugin and company, unless you want to buy it, pay them AND give them free samples 🤣🤣🤣
@@BruteWillis So you pay them to work for them? 🤣🙆♂️
READ this should ring your alarmbells and raise red flag: (7) For the purposes of enabling XLN Audio to enhance its Software and services, including by use of machine learning and for AI training purposes, the Customer grants to XLN Audio the following license:
a) a non-exclusive, irrevocable, free-of-charge, worldwide, perpetual, transferable, sublicensable license to access, analyze, copy, store, modify, create derivatives from, make available to the public and otherwise use, in any manner and media, all Created Music Work and any parts thereof, including but not limited to any recordings, stems, loops, sounds, samples, presets, MIDI files and underlying compositions (if any), and any other material generated by the Customer in connection with the use of the Software;
b) to the extent applicable and permittable under applicable law, you waive any so-called “moral rights” in relation to the license in paragraph 6(7) a) above;
c) for the avoidance of doubt, paragraph 6(7) a) and b) above shall apply also to Created Music Work created by the Customer during the Trial Period, regardless of whether the Customer exercises its right to withdraw in accordance with paragraph 5 above.
Hi - we’re not being devious here I can assure you 🙂 The cloud is a great way to enable things you capture on your phone to instantly appear in the plugin. Our intention is for users to not be limited by this in any way unless they’re using it for non-musical purposes
@@xlnaudio what do you mean with non musical purposes? can I still use my loops generated with life in a track that I perhaps later publish or put on a record?
more than anything I want a version of this plugin for my iPhone or iPad... why do I wanna have to use my phone and my desktop when I could be doing all of it on the fly wherever I am!!!........ come on XLN!!
It would be really cool to make beats on the fly! Making the main Life software work on smart phones and tablets is an entirely different beast from what we have done. But who knows what the future holds. Thanks for the feedback!
@@xlnaudio well I always have my phone and iPad with me, it would be wonderful to be able to use the plugin on those devices... and just to let you know I own rc-20 and XO as well... I would rather make the sketching of a whole groove while I'm out and about and bring that back to the computer rather than just collect sounds and have to wait till I'm back with my computer...... thank you for responding and thank you for your consideration.
Plz make great sampler more than serato.
sick
I’m in 1000% agreement.
SOLD!!!!! MOAR PLUGINS!!!!! 😅
Its grazyy
Is it possible to use it in live production?
Sure! Check this out: instagram.com/p/C0r4kGPMLh9/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Whaaaat?
Multiple outs for each hits?
Yes, Life uses 8 channels with sample slices grouped into 4 lanes, so some lanes might have more than one sample slice (playing alternating hits) depending on your current Life setup. You can use separate outputs for these 4 lanes as well as the master. Just click on the "M" on each lane to select the output channel. There's an "M" at the bottom right of Life as well, for the master channel.
I'd rather you spent that time on Addictive Drums 3
This is a game changer!!!
I haven't delved too deeply into this other than watch a few CZcams demo's but at first glance and already being a big fan of XO, I'd say this has borrowed a fair chunk of something that's already in existence, stuck a fancier graphical interface on it and added auto/semi-intelligent sample chopping to make it more immediately accesible to casual users... which should probably have been an XO update rather than a separate plugin.
Considering XO is currently only 20 Euro's more than Life, it seems over priced and a bit over hyped for what it's actually doing. XO is way more bang for your buck but takes some deeper diving to really get the most out of it.
Have you tried Life? @@slingshot_uk
@@xlnaudio I didn’t have a chance last night but I will this evening. The methods I employ in XO to create percussive top lines are already very similar though… and quite difficult to describe in text (at least in a short format, instructional sense).
There’s two main methods… one uses the built in sequencer in conjunction with the beat combinator (randomising and locking patterns as I go) with DAW transport sync switched on, the other uses MIDI parts in combination with Ableton’s MIDI clip editing functions, with transport sync switched off and no sequencer pattern in XO. Both methods utilise custom sample folders and the folder search/filter panel.
I could elaborate on a few more stages in each of those methods but text isn’t the best for trying to describe them. Either way can produce happy accidents and combination of DAW + XO gives extreme control over those.
I did read your reply to another user’s comment about XO getting an update soon and I’m hoping some of Life’s original ideas get added, which would make it a real game changer in terms of more efficient workflow, instead of chopping samples outside of XO.
I will try Life and I’ll be more than ok with coming back here to say I’m wrong but at the moment, I can’t see it being a worthwhile addition to work alongside XO, although I do get why some people might prefer to use it for inspiration etc as a separate plugin.
Thanks for a very long reply and speaking your mind! I'll forward this to the product team, we listen to all your feedback and want to make updates to the other products really soon, trust me :-)
@@slingshot_uk
@@xlnaudio Nothing ever gets forwarded to the " Product team" we the customers have been asking for XO updates and it never happens. XO doesn't work for me in LPX. it has stability issues.
To anyone interested in this, know that XLN updated their Terms & Services so that they can use, copy, store, sell, you name it, any music/audio you upload. Deeply concerning behaviour.
Here's an official statement on this part of the Terms Of Service:
support.xlnaudio.com/hc/en-us/articles/15342589639453-You-own-your-music-and-recordings-Period-
Please reach out to customer support if you have any questions:
www.xlnaudio.com/support
That's whack, won't be buying into that noise...
their terms of service states that they effectively can do anything with all of the source material and the stems/beats, etc created from them.. so including storing, modifying, making derivatives from , blah blah and publishing and/or selling it back to you or others, in some way shape or form, all the while also stating .... b) the Customer is legally responsible for any material included in the Created Music Work, including any samples created by the Customer when using the Software;
c) the Customer shall indemnify and hold XLN Audio, its licensees and assigns harmless from all damages, liabilities and costs resulting from third party claims of infringement or violation of intellectual property rights or other rights of any third party.
The main reason Life is using a Cloud service is to enable syncing recordings from the Life Field Recorder to the Life plugin in your DAW without any extra steps. Having access to the recordings and beats from our users also enables us to improve on the service by training our machine learning models on real user data. In Life there are currently two machine learning models which enable auto-denoising and smart pattern variations. We have no intention to use your data for any other purposes than to make the experience of using our products continuously better. We will not share or sell your samples.
@@xlnaudio so why would you need to make a clause about not being liable in third party claims?
@@xlnaudio this is wat people need to hear, many fora like gearspace are very negative about your TOS. it would be better if you come with an official statement. I understand that everything you record with the app hast to go via the cloud, but why are the beats/loops you make with life in the vst also stored in the cloud? and if you use the daw recorder to record sounds, why are these saved in the cloud? your explanation here doesnt make 100% sense?
Why is it that you can’t add the language in the TOS that explicitly states that You won’t/cant use our samples unless for machine learning. Your statement about not wanting to sell samples is a whisper compared to the strong language used in TOS that explicitly states you can do exactly what your saying “you won’t” …let’s just be honest, you all went too far, the language is almost demoralizing and takes away our ability to protect our work even in the event we feel “morally” victimized..really?..that’s ridiculous to add in a TOD based on what you “claim” your uses are for..We need a more clarified statement or TOS. If it’s truly just for research purposes, you should be able to clearly state that in TOS so that we are not literally..literally..signing our creations away. There is no reason why these things can’t be clarified better in the TOS and why more information or statements to put potential users minds at ease. If even Spectrasonics can change their TOS after consumers responses and update it to make it more clear and trusting. Then you should be able to as well. It wouldn’t be talked about this much if it wasn’t a problem.
@@gottabeclassic1154 imo the problem is that “for research / product improvements“ in the context of developing current and future ai tools doesn’t negate that they can‘t really guarantee that the same or very similar sounds and musical ideas won’t make it into multiple users work or into the content of their own products.
Patterning anyone…??
WARNING! - This plugin has to be a hook. Look what I found in their terms and conditions!
(7) XLN Audio reserves the right to impose limitations on the volume of Customer cloud storage as deemed necessary.
The cloud will become a subscription. Space is not free. First I was interested but I knew something was off about the Cloud. Hard pass from me. No no no. Moreover, they will charge for storage all while using what we upload as the dataset to develop more AI.
Hi! The plugin uses the cloud to enable the workflow, and we ideally want people to use Life to make music without any limitations, just trying to make things as smooth as possible between different devices. I can assure you, we have no ulterior motives :)
@@xlnaudio The problem is companies are screwing customers in cold ways these days. And with cloud storage there is no way that space will not become an issue. If XLN adds the clause "We will never charge for cloud storage" in their terms and agreements I will buy this plugin. Until then, this plugin is not for me.
So, basically a sampler with some midi FX..? Meh
A little more than that. It analyzes your recordings, pull samples from it that best match different criteria in a drum kit, and generates beats and variations on the fly. And everything is 100% editable so you always have granular control. Try it for free!
@@xlnaudio Yeah creates a drum kit that sounds like every other 808 drum kit sound. and don't forget that own all music upload to the cloud .
Ugh, the era of Gen Z music apps are upon us. Hang on to your hardware. Music software is about get really gross, over-complicated, over-priced, and under-good
Have you tried Life? It's free to try at xlnaudio.com
still sounds generic lol ! hahaha great idea but the music sounds terrible
Depends on the sounds you record.
The music actually sounds unique.
Nice app, but as we say in Germany, nice is the smaller brother of shit. The automation sucks. Non of the variatiob nacros are automatable. This needs to be added.
also way overpriced
not worth it for 150 bucks
Cloud? No thx.
That must have been the worst demo of all times. Makes me not want to even pirate this!
Nah. Easy pass. Too cheesy
Well overpriced. This should be $40 at best. It is a very basic instrument, and everything that comes out of it sounds the same.
Would much rather see an Addictive Drums 3 released. AD2 has great sounds but the software is lacking.