WTF Happened To Diablo IV?
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- čas přidán 25. 05. 2024
- It's been a year since Diablo IV launched, and while the core of the game was solid, there was plenty of room for improvement. Now after 12 months of updates and patches, how are things looking?
- Hry
When Blizzard offered early access for Diablo 4, I didn't expect it to be 4 seasons instead of 4 days promised.
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I just started. I like the gameplay but hate the entire infrastructure of the game.
The game has issues but overall I still have fun playing it. It has gotten better over time, which is all I ask from a game. Get used to it or don't play games.
@@HarvestrX "get used to get fked by multi billion dollar corporation or stop playing games" ok cons00mer lmao what a frickin joke take bro.
@@Diegoshadow85 Bruh what? You are the joke here. LOL
The game is basically how it shouldve been at launch. Now hoepfully they can focus on introducing more interaction between skills and season mechanics.
Diablo is a francise that has a history of terrible launch. D2 became good after their forst expansion and diablo 3 was abysmal at launch. It took them a few yrs for blizzard to finally made d3 good.
But it is still such shit though. Like how is this "how it should have been"? What are you finding fun that gets you over that it is a boring mindless farm? I am genuinely curious.
@totallynottrademarked5279 r u slow or what r do u not know what a diablo game is?
@@totallynottrademarked5279 thats literally d2 and d3 lol
@@jdennis867 the fact that that has been a problem since Diablo II is a huge problem to me
I also dropped off after the first week after launch, but I came back for S4 and i'm having an absolute blast so far.
Season 4 has been great. When you get 4 people to summon the blood maiden and you all have mind cages with maxed out threat.
Mob density is wild
@@ANilahAtion I agree, first time I've wanted to level more than one character in a season heh. It's actually more fun than tedious now.
I struggle with the skill tree in D4. Quite boring compared to other games.
Same! I struggle in general with ARPGs, but S4 brought me back out of interest, and I played and played...and played some more. I thoroughly enjoyed it
Agreed. So much fun
1.0 finally released with Season 4
Just took theme 2 years... to get gameplay fun the core. Still without content.😂😂😂😂
@@vojteskaaaaaa6 err....the game is only out for 1 year, and what do you mean no content LMAO. Keep trying.
@@KeyT3ch what content it have ? All 5 bosses and 10 same enemy ? What you have there helltide all the time same and what pits ? Go go play this washbrain 2 things like idiot boring.
@@vojteskaaaaaa6 not sure how you calculate years where you're from, but it's not even been a year.. I mean Saturday will be year. but yeah
@@KeyT3chDevelopment for the game started in 2014. So it has actually been 10 years.
Season 4 is how the game should have launched, it feels so much better than at any point. It's clear they launched Diablo 4 a year too early.
I called that. How they gonna move the game up a year after a 2 month period with zero developing because all the court shit. Was slated for this year they close for 2 months come back and say its coming a year early? Like what?
It wouldn't have changed anything, they clearly didn't play the game and no amount of time without massive player feedback would have given us a decent launch
I wouldn't go to say too; but more of just release it right the first time.. But either way I suppose
Came back for season 4. Inventory/loot management and levelling is definitely better than what it was. As long as the devs keep improving the game, I'm going to keep playing.
cant agree more
I'm sorry 😂
The aspect codex unlocking/upgrading is a HUGE improvement. Item affixes and drops didn't really change THAT much though, at least IMO. You still get a ton of loot, and the overwhelming majority of it is still useless to whatever your current build is. But it's definitely better than what it was before.
One thing that hasn't really been mentioned much though is how much the tightened up the variety of elixirs, so they don't take up most of that one dedicated tab.
I'm definitely enjoying the new season though, and the leveling speed increase plus aspect codex are huge parts of that.
@@sfreemanoh I feel like they moved some of the more useless stats to the tempering system. At least you can have more control over it.
Trash game
Awesome video man and a great breakdown of the launch and the current state of D4. I absolutely love this season and it’s renewed the love and excitement I had at launch. Very much look forward to see what they do in the coming seasons with all the new systems and loot changes. The foundation is much much more sound now to build onto. Can’t wait to see what the expansion adds
So it's less of a hassle and everything is just faster, but nothing significant in terms of content...
The game is fun now, I have been playing the game since the launch of the 4th season every day.
As a much smaller CZcamsr, I've gotta ask. How do you stay so organized and on top of so many games, releases, etc? I'm pretty inconsistent and late to new information despite being fully engrossed in only one game at the moment, lol.
He has a team
D4 actually pretty good now, i put in almost 100 hours for season 4 and never thought it would keep me nearly that long
Yep it is a good action rpg now. Not the best out there but good and has the potential to get a lot better, although with PoE 2, Last Epoch, a new Grim Dawn expac, Titan Quest 2 and others it needs to find its place. As long as Blizzard keeps it up it should be in a good spot though.
Oh look, its Force Gaming, I remember you from the days of Diablo 3's Beta and its early announcements. Just as I came back to Diablo 4 youtube recommends me a video from a channel I havent seen in 10+ years, lol.
That’s when i found this channel, lol! But you should seriously subscribe. Its a great channel for overall gaming news.
The skill tree is unfortunately still a bad joke. I play ARPGs for the build variety/theory crafting. Until they make a skill tree overhaul I wont touch Diablo.
I think the build being more reliant on seasonal power+paragon+aspects is what they are aiming for, the tree is pretty basic because it is exactly that, the basis
@@DarduelI agree. The build variety comes from gear and paragon, not the skill tree. It’s a design philosophy, they want the skill tree to be simple because it’s the first thing people will interact with.
Such a braindead take.
Imagine thinking the ONLY variety in the game comes from the skill tree. Just go play PoE and play the same RF build you play every league, bub.
The skill tree is your whole build. Aside the skill tree, you modify skills with uniques and aspects and tempers. So basically you have 4 ways to modify a skill, more than in most ARPGs.
skill tree is lame imo
Great video, clearest and most helpful video I’ve yet seen for a player returning to the game after a 6 month break. Thanks
My first time I quit the game at level 80 because it seemed like there wasn't much to doin the endgame. I started playing this week again and my overall experience was good. The helltides and new loot are probably my favorite changes. Helltides spawn so many mobs now its kind of reminiscent of Vampire survivors in that you just want your build to blow up the screen which can be pretty satisfying. The greater affixes and tempering on gear is a fun chase to make your build brokenly strong. Some of the bad thing I found were unless your in the higher nightmare tiers, "bosses" in the dungeons fall over dead in just 2 seconds now no matter what level you are. The game still needs more variety of content in the mid to endgame. The prices in the store are also insane $25 for a skin pack you can only use for one class. AVOID THE STORE. That being said I'm having more fun this time around I think a few more good updates and it will be a great game.
Man, this is a great, very watchable explanation of the update. This type of thing is why I subscribed. Haven't finished the campaign yet and this helps me understand what to look for when I do. Thanks.
I knew what to expect watching this video. I just like hearing Force and Rhykker. Favorite gaming news. Having a ball this season on 2 droods my dudes. Have a great day! :)
It also shows if it’s a codex upgrade if you are at selling or salvage window, with a sword icon
Thanks for the video man...I felt exactly the same way you did and I quit but about a month into it...
Looks like time to have another look...thanks for the update on what has been going on.
It’s the first time I’ve levelled a second character to 100 & still having a blast. The iron wolves track for resplendent sparks, the overwhelming boss mats you get & that Uber uniques can be used at lvl 35 is a great incentive to roll new characters
Wait iron wolves gives you sparks? Say it ain't so
I got a char to level 85 and was at hour like 200 before s1.. I played a little of s1 and parked the game.. I knew I would be back, I got my monies worth and had fun.. but then s4 came out, looked promising and got a level 100 now and another one coming down the line... it's been so much fun
my necro (first 100) has like 1/10th the time played the 2nd highest (92 druid). Ill probably end up building 1 of everything tbh since its lasting til Aug.
I've played thousands of hours of each Diablo PC game, I bought the most expensive version of D4 and I made sure to grind the early world boss trophy. All that and I couldn't even play this longer than Season one.
I just went back to D4 last night and it's definitely better but so far off from great and it would be so straight forward to fix.
Which was your favorite Diablo game and why?
What an amazing informational video! So many cool things mentioned and well explained. Thanks Force! :)
still same issue with mob animation sometimes stuck at 20fps?
or dlss had some blur issues in motion. i ran the game above 200fps if that made any difference.
It's so much better although they need to work on the difficulty and balance a bit. This is the first time I actually played and hit level 100 and actually will on another class probably too. It's a lot more fun.
I'm having fun with the game now, and with wow as well doing the pandaria remix thing and it's pretty dope.
It's crazy to me how only now they actually are making the game good instead of all these little tricks for player retention and trying to sell you cosmetics. If a game is actually good and fun, people will eventually buy the cosmetics cause you know... It's actually for a fun game
Amazing video, thanks a lot!
Think they will add another difficulty for challenge not necessarily to get better loot?
Hey Force. Question for you, and i hope you see this...what are your thoughts on "Seasonal Characters"? I know Diablo is known to use these, but now, my beloved Division 2 is apparently moving to the Seasonal Character model, and the hardcore player base, myself included, are Not Happy about it. So much so that we are considering quitting Division 2 after 5 years of playing. Im hoping you have experience with this and can shed some light as to whether we are overreacting or if our concerns are warranted. Thanks!
Best season so far . Great video dude 👊 .
thank you for posting this.; I too left D4 on launch, it was pretty bad. They have addressed most of the issues I had with it. I started a fire sorcerer after this patch, and I am loving it! She is 94 now and really becoming strong. There is never anything that you *don't* wanna do. Funny tho, world bosses tend to last about 5 seconds. So get there early :) The one thing I haven't figured out yet with the loot is, you very very seldom see a piece of loot for another class. I like gearing alts and finding gear for them no matter what I am playing. I also enjoy perhaps finding something your buddy could use and pass that on to them. Maybe I just haven't figured it out yet. Anyhow, thanks for this video!
Fantastic breakdown, thank you
have u tryed mist of Pnadaria remix?
It's nice to see content creators making videos about this game and it's not depressing
Does any boss drop Tempest Roar? Or just cannibals and cultist?
I found the same, my 70 rogue was as good as my eternal 100 Sorc with a basic skill build and I wasn't even thinking about what I was equipping. Sorc does have some bugs affecting damage though.
I’m having so much fun on my bash barb… there’s so many upgrades to do from farming helltides, nm dungeons, uber mats etc. As a casual I find it quit enjoyable .
if only the game launched like this, such huge QoL improvements that i may actually start playing again.
what build is that rogue?
The best part of D4 was that it introduced me to your channel 😂
I'd say add boss summoning material to the material tab same as the gem shards.
stash is filling quickly
Finally almost out of the beta test. Now if they can just add actual skill trees to each class they will be ready for their 1.0 release.
D4 1.0 is finally out.
Looking forward to it being fun in future updates
They really need a few more classes, its also just to easy now. I went into lvl 100 and end game within two days, took me like 2 weeks to run out of things to do, and now I wont be back until next season.
Does anybody know the sorcerer build that hes using in the video at the 8:25 mark? I wanted to try it out, but cant find it anywhere.
Frozen Orb build. Just check Maxroll for a guide (I think Raxx made a vid for it as well here on YT).
@@ForceGamingYT Thank you so much, i appreciate it!
Found an item with 3 greater affixes, unfortunately one of them was for poison resistance.
I really enjoyed the season 4 . And after reaching season pass 80 i purchased it because they deserve it. Well done and now they need to focus on getting the game better .
How's the social aspect? As far as I know they still haven't managed basic grouping despite this being a big deal at launch?
This is the absolute killer for me. No point playing until social is sorted.
A lot of people want Diablo to be a solo game, so I understand why the social things aren’t a big focus.
@@Sinthoras00 why play an online game for an offline experience. Where is the logic?
@@kieranlangley3092 I mean I like playing with my friend but I also like that I don’t feel like it’s a waste of time if I just want to hop on by myself. MMOs are great for people with too much time on their hands, but not so great for people that are lucky to get 2-3 hours on a Saturday.
@@kieranlangley3092 most would probably play offline if it was possible. Since it isn't here we are.
how do i know how many endgame bosses are in the game?
Use Google, maybe. Or find out yourself by finding all the boss altars.
Honestly im having more fun in S4 than i had in necropolis league. Im a 4k hours poe player.
even if your bored with necropolis d4 still bad, it's a sequence from bad(D3) to another d4bad.
@@banishedbr why you so bitter?
@@banishedbr Poe is bad.
@@banishedbr how does it feel to hate a thing with all your being?
@@kenomenorias3200 lol if i hated i would be every day in bli$$ forums hating.
takes a year to get better damn, time flies
I like how the pit is actually an arp. Artificer's Realm Pit.
I've really been liking all the improvements, but I think there's still some damage/difficulty curve stuff to be tweaked. I'm running an incinerate & hydra sorcerer build and I can face melt entire dungeons, including the boss, and then have a helltide elite I didn't even see one-shot me. (Yes, it is a glass cannon build, but it's not THAT fragile)
The helltide spawns some VERY difficult guys that hit very hard. There's a warning message about an agent of hell arriving. They get a special orange icon on the minimap. They are Bad Dudes. People who play Hardcore recommend mounting up and running from them.
@@davidskidmore3442 I don't mind getting one-shotted now and then, that's part of the "fun" of a glass cannon build, it's just that leveling is EXTREMELY boring. I can't properly cycle my spells since by the 2nd or 3rd cast either everything is dead or I'm having to respawn.
I had fun this season, but even in this state couldn't get myself to 100 and grinding the pit.
Went back to Hades2 and felt a welcoming design and gameplay.
I may return for new D4 seasons, but for the first time, I might not even try the expansion...
Then the game is not for you. Enjoy your games :)
@@kenomenorias3200 Sad, but true.
D4 kinda comes and goes for me I’m still wishing for that holy damage class soon lol
I think thats the point of a seasonal game, im just thinking not realy sure tho...🤔
@@joelhodoborgasthings like new classes and zones are usually expansion content.
Both has already been announced for the first expansion but except that the class will be a completely new one they didn't reveal anything else about it yet.
The zone will be interesting since it's basically D2 act 3 but I'd assume we'll see many changes to the look and feel of it.
it would be so much better if there was a way to make custom "filters" that would automatically scrap a particular item that didnt have the stats that you have defined in said filter.
I've been waiting for this video, only guy that can convince me to pull the trigger on this game eventually
I would wait for a deep sale, 40 or less imo.
@@Desu-Desu-Chan-San Last time was 35€ I think, next probably 30€ and that's a decent price imo, I don't know if I'll have the will or the time to be invested in the proper late game so..
@@FrankB1110 Yeah, if it was D3 or 2 I would 100% recommend, but 4 has the paid seasons and so on. It is kinda a hard one to recommend because it is a time/money sink. So just go in knowing the D4 is wild with how much they try to make you spend
@@Desu-Desu-Chan-San I have never been the target audience for that kind of market, I've played both D2 and D3 but to pay for a season? Not happening. Thank you for the warning though, I'll probably do the campaign when It's on sale and that's it.
@@FrankB1110 Good on ya mate, the campaign part is worth the 40, hope you enjoy .
Couldn’t agree with you more, massive changes, for the better!! Enjoying the game once more
I’m still having fun at level 100 compared to bored shitless at level 80/85 with past season. Golds a bit of a pain. But all round fantastic update and item crafting is really nice and room to improve maybe but I’m extremely happy
Season 4 helltide is the best way to have fun imo.
Would like some type of skill on the tree to unlock only at lvl 100. Or an add on skill tree. Yes paragon is something like that for damage but new skill animations are ever lacking.
Getting to lvl 100 is like 30 hours. Its laughably short
We now just need build loadouts like in D3
As someone who stopped a few weeks into S2 this rework of D4 has been awesome! Very much enjoying everything the game has to offer.
What? you can zoom out on PC?! damn, do that for consoles blizzard!
I think they still need to add a lock your gear button, so you don't accidently swap out gear if you accidently right click something.
I'm loving the changes. Hit lvl 50 on 2 characters after about 3-4 hours each. After lvl 30 you pretty much only pick up rares for the resources, and only look at legendaries for gear upgrades
I reached lvl 100 in season 4, and I'm having a blast.
Is D4 better than D2 or D3?
Mark to keep has been around since season 2 as far as I can remember... Possibly around since release as I have been able to mark items as favorites so they cannot be sold or salvaged.
But yea this season is fun.
I was smart enough to wait and i just bought it last week… im enjoying the experience so far
Got a D4 ad right before the video
My question is, if I haven't finished the campaign, should I take the option to skip it?
No, i dont think you can even. Should finish campaign so that you can start with your mount at lvl 1. And get all your renown, because you only need to do it once. Same with altars of lilith.
I play Diablo games for the campaign. Diablo has never had any kind of complex end game. Ive played every Diablo game for the high production and good story/lore. I play Grimdawn for complex character creation and deep itemization. Diablo has never been about an endgame.
Just started my first character ever in diablo 4 because it's free on gamepass and didn't know I started when diablo 4 was at its best. And starting at the beginning of a new season 👌🏼
Are uber uniques possible to get now? i killed durial like 100x and got a shit one i didnt want last i played and said fuck this regardless time sink. Can we save builds on paragon board? Last i knew it was a big hassle to try new builds.
I just don't like pushing one button to kill stuff. Then push a second button to kill stuff faster.
i'll try again 6-8 years from now, with Diablo 5... would really like Diablo to became more like Ultima Online... that was way more addictive...
I was able to get 6 Glyphs to 21 before even hitting lvl 100 on my alt this season and that's saying something with how fast XP is. Glyph XP is no longer a chore since you can start doing pretty high tier NMDs at like, lvl 70ish or whatever. So you go from farming helltide to farming lvl 95+ Monsters in NMD which means that you purely drop ilvl 925. Once you are around level 85 by doing NMD, you probably have your glyphs at 15 or at least the important ones, so now you can go back to helltide and use a profane mindcage to boost monster level and guarantee ilvl 925 there too.
…oh, there‘s a fourth part available?
Game is so much more better now. I still wish the skill tree had more than 2 options per skill.
I thought it was perfectly fine at launch. But I'm _really_ enjoying the new revised version. Unique items are still...meh, at best: I have yet to find one worth using, mainly because the aspects on them don't contribute anything to my arrow-shooty rogue build.
Whz when thez implement something, thez do not think if that thing is annoying? U know that the aspects checking will be time consuming and annoying.
The game for sure is 100% better now but I am looking forward for more updates and better stuff in the future
Channeling some TotalBiscut with that title!
Im having fun on it now thats for sure. Havent had as much fun since the story.
I haven’t stopped playing since release I have 9 lvl 100 characters and play it daily
i played a little in season 1 and realized it was still the same crap but came back for season 4 and got a necro to 100 and still want to keep playing. its way faster and way more fun to level.
I’m still waiting for the “New Class” they’ve supposedly have been working on. It’s been a year and still no word. Also why can we still not make different bills for one character and be able to save it?
I got excited when you said something about new bosses, expecting new/different mechanics, and then it showed you melting one in half a second.... The only issue I had at end game was that the whole thing just felt like I was doing the same thing over and over again. It doesn't matter to me that there are "different" missions if you're literally pressing the same buttons combos everywhere you go. Even adding some types of puzzle aspects or different phases with bosses would've got me to reinstall. This just looks like more of the same.
i got this game when i had about 12 family members who picked up this game. after a few months of playing many of them dropped the game. now only 2 of the 12 play. i gave it up early because i was really waiting for the next guild wars 2 expansions lol. i’ll never give up on guild wars because they respect my time and my money.
sunsetting content isn't respecting money... Actually literally the exact opposite.
Lol, guild wars, respect, lol
Talking about masterwork, but showing tempering.. Also to get into the pit, you need to complete tier 46 nightmare dungeon.
What happened? It's gone from a game I was going to shelve until the expac to a game I can't stop playing. It's not perfect, but it's vastly superior to launch and there are a LOT of endgame challenges now.
edit: and here come the "Blizz sux" chants in the comments. shame, it's a lot of fun now but to each their own
Yea it's literally following the natural life cycle of every arpg. But we are in an age of social media and "blizzard bad" is worth a lot of clout currency these days, so it is what it is
@@phatymcdaddyI wouldn’t say that. The game was genuinely half baked on release. It was missing so much basic QoL and large parts of the game were extremely grindy or clunky. I totally understand why people were upset.
You don’t get clout on social media by ranting about something being bad unless there’s a large enough group of people who are also upset by it
99% of my enjoyment comes from QoL improvements, reduction of the grind, and the loot upgrades. It went from “ugh, I can’t find a Legendary that’s better than the level 40 yellow.” to “Ew, I accidentally picked up a non-Ancestral. I need to wash my hands”
@@christaylor7079sometimes I’m picking everything up because I need some mfing gold 😂
@@christaylor7079 😂😂😂
It's better now, but still a long long way to go.
Most games right now can’t give satisfying end game because of greed. Developers refuses to give free stuffs they can easily monetize like cool transmogs. They won’t give chase items as a reward anymore that gives players motivation to play. And I don’t mean those uber uniques. I’m talking about cool legendary super rare transmogs.
Game is going on the right path, we just need few more improvements for endgame and wardrobe able to do multiple build specs like we were able to do in D3.
I want set pieces and runes 😢
The main thing that turned me off at the beginning was that I could not play any of the released content unless I made a new character and played seasonal. Glad there is more content but I think I would still rather wait for POE2 than pick Diablo back up. It was fun enough.
I skipped the 2nd half of season 1, 2, & 3. Just jumped in a few days ago to check out if the game has improved. There are some good signs here, looking forward to the game improving. Interested to see when we might get new classes.
Praying for crusader since launch
First new class will be in the expansion, supposed to be a truly new class, not a rehash of one from the past. Some sort of spell caster.
@@davidskidmore3442 that's good to hear, I wanted either something brand new or my sweet baby amazon to return.
@@davidskidmore3442 Honestly I just find it weird we don't have a holy class in a Diablo game. D3 Crusader was my absolute favourite class in the entire series.
@kovacspeti32 Always a chance, but maybe a new holy class could arise. Paladins on the other hand lore wise, the ones that survived all became crusaders or mercenaries.
They still need to inform you that you're about to overwrite an item with a lesser version in your codex or at least display the upgrade text on the item as it normally does at the blacksmith and vendors, it doesn't show it during the item selection from the codex.. at least not on console.
? You cant downgrade ur codex. If you salvage a better one, it upgrades.
@@Jaceftp i'm talking about using the codex on an item that has an aspect that could upgrade your codex, it doesn't show the usual text of it being an upgrade when in the codex interface
@@justice4g Got ya. It only shows an upgrade when salvaging
@@Jaceftp yeah or when browsing your inventory at the blacksmith and weapon / armor vendors
Can you make the same video about Diablo 3
Almost every single feature he praised is just diablo 3 😂