The engine caused the chassis to flex ❌
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- čas přidán 1. 05. 2024
- We noticed the frame flexed yesterday when we had the engine mocked up so Bad Chad is going to fabricate a crossmember today while Nathan works on the fuel system on the Hudson ⛽️
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Chad I believe some of us told you that would happen. Maybe if you took some advice from the very people who watch your videos. Or even just think about what we say this would have never happened. Some of us have been at this for our entire life's.
Cross member should not be connected to the mounts only it needs to be anchored to frame
I would have also taken it behind the lowest part of the oil pan.
the cross member should be as flat as possible and bolted to the frame rails
mounts need beefing up too
Just like the shock mount on other car.
Need a can of black frame stiffener spray paint
LOL
Once he lays the bad chad crome across the brace that should hold it
bad chad frame stiffener in a can.
Bluetooth frame?
That piece u are putting in is not going to help the Frame is twisting when the motor in it will still twist even when u start the motor take the body off put the motor back in then brace the motor and frame and put the driveshaft in when all done put body back on fit the body to the motor ignore my comments like every body elses you need at least 3 strong steel cross members not tin
Jolene, take some of your t shirt money and buy a drill press and a good belt sander.
@@user-yk8li1kh8u And a work cart and a miter saw, and possibly a couple extra extension cords.
I hope they understand that that big block with that horse power is gonna rip that little frame in two little pieces.
Not gonna rip the frame. Engine is not that heavy or powerful enough to hurt that frame. Think about the early 60s blown nitro iron hemis bolted to torch welded exhaust tubing.
Twist it like a pretzel..from the motor back to the rear end. And it definitely needs a heavy cross member across the front frame.. just saying first time he lights the motor up it will twist that frame like paper .uuggg .
Does the motor even run
@@markkibbey4026"Frame" has left the chat...
One of the problems with running a rigid brace from motor mount to motor mount is you have to pull the motor to drop the pan. Some people will say what’s the big deal? Trust me the older you get, the less you want to pull a motor unless absolutely necessary.
Nate will fix it he already tried to tell Chad but he wouldn't listen
he has a head made of concrete 🤭
It’s a miracle after all these years you have all your fingers and toes.
I literally spit my coffee out laughing when I read this. That is so true.
I worked with guys who truly scared me. I'd keep both and eye on them and as much distance as I could :D
Ha ha haha😂
For the love of God, please use a tape to measure...I want to scream watching arts and crafts hour!!!!
Just perfect
the lack of ear protection (or none) is a concern too
@@multitablez7825 I'm a 66yo Aussie who was a self employed contractor in my younger years. Even though I did the particular job for approx 5 years without ear protection (and another 2 with ear protection), I suffered irreparable hearing damage which I really regret. It pains me as well to see these guys with high pitch grinders etc without plugs or muffs .........
@@multitablez7825 WHAT?
He needs to pull the body off and box the frame
The front frame motor mounts are an example of what not to do
Nate said a couple days ago that they were going to take it off and box the frame
I dont like to constantly comment, but do realize, that cars like Big Daddy Roth, George Barris, all the great customizers, vehicles, are running machines, Roth put hundreds of miles on Tweedy Pie, lot of these cars are still around, what you are building are gigantic die casts, thats why there in s giant display case, i woundnt use that 40,to get a soda two blocks away, you have to engineer safety into what you build or youre creation will turn on you like the creature did to Dr. Frankenstein, Frankenstein was not the monster" if you know what im trying to tell ya".
@daddysails8926 Hey Popeye the Sailor Man, I have an idea. Since you have a "Man Crush" on Chad and think he is such a great fabricator and builder, why don't you have him build you a boat. Then you can take it on a little ocean voyage and we'll see if you make it back alive.
I thought Chad built cars. I didn't know it was arts and crafts. Very painful to watch
lol
Fold your paper in half when making a pattern so your left and right sides are mirror images.
The brace will do nothing to stop the flex in the frame. The motor is not spreading. The support would have to go across from the lower part of the frame on one side to the opposing side.
That was way harder than it had to be.
That's why I always box the frame first
i am surprised nate is not advising chad on these motor mounts for strength and the frame crossmember.chads fast and cheap will come back some time and bite him hard
Cheap and Fast will lead to disaster in this case.... Just Do it RIGHT !!! I can't believe anyone would think what Chad Built today will stop the Frame from flexing when that engine is installed and Torquing under any type of acceleration...WOW !!! Is it necessary to always be FAST AND CHEAP ? I think all that was needed was some stick on plastic chrome--that should stop the flexing.
@@frankmarraro6632 You have hit the nail on the head, also he's a sheet metal fabricator not an engineer
WELL I GUESS NATE IS KEEP OUT OF IT THAT IS BELONG TO BAD CHAD 'S VIDEO SHOW
I was going to say pretty much the same. Had it ready to post and then decided not to, but I'm glad to see you did and others here backing you up. That car will be squirrely af if they stomp on the pedal with than engine in it.
So obvious so many of these comments are made by those who have no experience. The engine block is way strong enough to keep the frame from spreading, we all know they know how to weld the mounts on so they won't break off. Once that block is bolted in you don't even need that tube he put in today. I just 😍 this build. I know Chad can be hard to watch sometimes if you are a perfectionist.
A perfectionist never gets anything done and Chad likes to move things along fast. That's how old gassers were built back in the day. If you seen the cars up close that this whole culture was built off of you wouldn't probably think much of them. Go Chad go!!!
Chad every time I've built an early ford I box the entire frame with3/16 metal it's time consuming but it stops the flex and I take 2x4 rectangle square tubing for my crossmember bullet proof.Just saying!I love your work ethic.
It needs a cross member bolted to the chassis rails .
Doing it this way is as useful as an ash tray on a motorbike ,cheap and cheerful not the answer and look how long its taking .
You are just dangling the cross member from the motor mount, it's not actually attached to anything. You need to go from frame rail to frame rail not just hanging from the bottom of the mount!
Hello Bad Chad Nation Nathan is a true blessing to the shop he is a jack of all trades
It seems strange like building a roll cage for the engine. I have a feeling he will wish he bolted headers on for the mock up instead of being surprised when they won’t work.
Chad I thought maybe you guys would look at some of the comments that people put and one of my comments was a couple of days ago maybe Monday to be careful when putting that engine down cuz you're going to bend the frame.. big fan
The dipper will add very little strength. Make a crossmember that will go from frame rail to frame rail and then from the engine mount to the cross member
No need to worry its never going to start given its put together without a flywheel
LOL HE ain't going to listen to common sense,,They just making content for dramas sake..ray charles could see that is not going to work,anyone who bases a build on a toy to scale,,is not playin with a full deck.
Or spacer plate between block and fltwheel.
Now I know what the "Bad" really means in "Bad Chad"
Boy, what a plus for you guys that you have Nate as a friend and have his knowledge of mechanics to help Chad in his building. The three of them so well together.
Are you watching the video?
Boyd Coddington is rolling over in his grave....😃😂
Yes he built hot rods the right way not half ass he new what he was doing a very smart man
If Curly, Larry and Moe had a shop……
.......so you are watching his videos!!! 😂😂😂😂😂 good for you! Learn something!😂😂
Chad just a suggestion, that you slow down to Nates pace, and you will end up making better time of your work, as Haste makes waste, and nate is a thinker and a slower dooer, he likes perfection and dont care to be rushed.
Chassis builders are fainting like goats watching this!
Hi Chad, just wanted to say I’ve been watching your videos for a while now and have loved all your projects, I’m amazed by how you can visualize the finished product before you even start and Jolene’s colour choices are spot on, especially with the 50 Ford, I’ve seen all the negative comments from viewers and all I can say is thank you for putting the “real “ in reality tv, keep on doing what you’re doing and please do me a favour and have a great day.
That's what happens when you cut away a good part of the frame without a plan to reinforce it.................
Get yourself a roll around work bench and get off the floor!
Agree. Pneumatic wheels too, it would be so quiet!
Fortunately it is another creation that will never see the road.
Got to remember this is just entertainment. Has nothing to do with building building "real" custom cars. Not that he isn't capable. Look at the Bugatti.
If you start welding those braces in and you have a twist in the center section you will be welding the twist into the frame ! Use plumb bobs to pick up a datum line…..I’ve done heavy frame work for 35 plus years .Do comparative measurement from the floor to frame on 4 points if anything
No need for a brace under the engine. The engine itself, being attached to the motor mounts, is a huge brace between the frames. That brace needs to go UNDER the engine and attach to the bottom of the frame on both sides.
That big block ford with the blower is going to need much more support then what you are talking..seen you over build .but when you are going to need it you are lacking..go heavier on the cross member..my opinion
U need to brace the frame rails using a cross member bolted to each side of the frame then brace each engine mount to the cross brace
You and Nate will make it all work Chad and Jolene 👍👍
Hey, please don’t get mad at me, But I just knew when you cut that main structure bracket out . And the fact that you put an engine that heavy in a car not designed originally for that big an engine, I say U shoulda known that was gonna flex that chassis. U add more than 1/2 more weight an moved that weight rearward , ya shoulda know. I kept waiting to hear more structure bracing would be needed where u took out the X. Hey like your progress ,gonna be a nice build. All just my humble common thinking brain ! Love your show !
Back in the day they would hang plumb bobs from the frame and measure to the floor to check your datum line for a twist or sag
Why are you going to motor mounts you need the cross member goto frame or you can do both for more strength
So Chad spent one hour making a poster board patron that's a long time hmmm that's crazy
A transmission plate and a motor plate Attached to the frame the engine would be part of the frame It would tie it all together
Hope you know that you have a good man in Nate, next level abilities and amazingly still humble. Dare I say, fate could have easily had the roles reversed.👍
Hi Chad, Jolene, Nate, & Fina! It should not be to long before the Terraplane is ready to run Chad and when it is done maybe it would be a good time to start on Jolene's Bugatti. Everyone would love to watch it get completed and you could probably still have some of summer left for her to drive it! Nate nice work on getting the gas tank ready, you are just a natural when it comes to mechanical work and I appreciate your ability and skill! Jolene what can I say you are really on top of your game, you do such good work! Fina was out on guard duty today it must be nice there today!
Did you check that tank by filling with water first before you installed it,what if it leaks after you fill with fuel,water can be drained out and dried,then fill.guess will wait and see.
It’s not final fit yet
Craziest thing I ever saw
Chad shouldn’t the cross member bolt to the bottom of the frame, one side to the other. I don’t see how bracing motor mount to motor mount helps the frame at all. Connecting the cross member one side of the frame to the other is where the real strength to stabilize the frame is, in my opinion. It’s your car but you should think about it.
I sure hope that engine runs lol, have you ever considered 1 of those chop saws and a welding table with the clamps? Not telling you how to do your job.
I do hope the engine mounts are ok, it dose look like they are weak compared to the size of the engine I hope you don't mind me saying.
Not only that but they are suspension mounts and way too small. Also there is metal to metal contact all the way as the inner tube has to be longer! They were but he cut them off!! Hence the vibration will be massive!
Engine mounts are like Match Sticks they are not sturdy enough
Yes they are but what matters when there on a paper thin cut up fram
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Hope you’re enjoying the comic relief.👍🤪🇺🇸
I raced mud drags for forteen years,big hp two of the four truck frame where half rusted and gone, punch out 396 rat big block Chevy chunky cam and doul predator s all the power you needed.just replace universal drive shafts,and let it rip,40 to 50 foot rosters, get-r-done,one more time, dreams baby dream, enjoy every bit of it making moments and a hell of good memories,ps you only like once, make that dream happen,i got fath in all of yours good work.
O’l Nathan is a wizard with these things man!
You just dont listen to those who know, but as they say its what you learn after you know it all. That silly bit of box section was like welding spaghetti in, you put the torque of that engine down to the back wheels. You will rip that engine right out of there like those mounts was paper. Not only from the flex of chassis but weakness of the mounts, its standard to build the mounts and cross member out of 50x50mm box and 6mm plate.😊 I could say it would be funny to see a engine fly out from under the hood as ive seen before. But you Nate and Doug have and are putting alot of work into it, so would love to see a great build. Listen to those that are in the no. I run a quarter mile drag car.😊
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Nice cowbell hanger you made there Chad!
That steel frame you are making is useless, all it doing is making the engine heavier, stop for a second and think about what you are doing.
will it matter if it just sits in his warehouse as a prop?
WRONG.
Good job Chad and Nate Jolene good video
Awesome, Thanks
Nice job Nate is a good Help for that projet
Like i said i never buy a car from you😢
What shop does not use a chop saw ?
1st pothole, engine on the road. Just a guess.
It wont make it to the street
Maybe not. If he fits a sky hook it won't fall out !😅
Nice double weld shots today Jo! Nice work
looking good
That’ll hold! LOL
Hope this helps. Connecting the engine mounts with the square stock is really doing nothing that the engine block already does. The problem is at the frame and the horizontal engine mounts causing a lever action. The engine mounts should be vertical or at a max of 45 deg to the crossmember. I would start by boxing the frame then make a crossmember between the frame rails. This would stop the frame from flexing. The engine mounts would then direct the engine weight downwards to the crossmember.
Man, the longer you look at your projects the worse they get especially this one. "make this work" with stuff that looks like a dull beaver was pulled out of a creek and swung at a piece of steel.
A nice set of old school frame gauges would be nice to check datum and centerline I have set of Mo-clamp and Dent fix tram gauge for comparative measurements.
If there’s any fuel delivery companies out near you, they probably give you a piece of 2 inch reinforced fuel hose like they have on their hose reels on their trucks and not think a thing about it. It will outlast the car. Some actually has a ground wire running through it. I’ve installed miles of it probably if you added all of Short ones together.We had special banding machines that work similar to the banding machines that you put stuff down on pallets with that much more intricate and portable Then the stationary Scovill machine that swells out a brass fitting inside of a collar on the outside of the hose
no content is bad content
keep those haters commenting! it helps the algorithm!!
so was it the heavy-ass engine or the dramatic reduction in Section Modulus?? some combination thereof???
All you work it fit together now good job in the garage
when you fab up the transmission tunnel, you will have to take the bead roll up on the piece about an inch and that would carry the floor recess into the tunnel.
Has anyone checked if that engine starts or even turns over yet???
Love Jolene's channel, more laid back! I still look forward to every Bad Chad video though!
Mean Jolene and bad Chad Rock on
Good video.
wish bone sets the camber for the front axle , how will you know where to set it now that you have cut every thing away that holds the wish bone in the right place for the right camber angle ....
I lovee it when the plan comes together ,! Lots of metal work ahead to take the flex out eh . Im hoping all goes well . What am i saying . Chad and Nathan always find a way ! Thumbs team Hiltz all thats not working doesn't mean it won't work !
Nice 👍
I love the work your doing on the car but you really need to go from frame rail to frame rail to hold the down pressure from the engine to keep the frame from spraying out. Great looking build
Good Jacking point to brace everything 👌 make it much easier to jack on n off the axle stands over the duration of the build 👍
Wow che capolavoro , ragazzi questa auto mi piace tantissimo , verra stupenda anch lei , in mano vostra , complimenti a tutti , supporti motore perfetti.👍✌
love the show
My advice is to use a coat hanger or round rod and bend it in the shape around the oil pan instead of paper.
You call that gap. I call that junk
Any chance you get to be outside in NS with Jolene's cinematography it's gorgeous art.
Hi all from Trois-Rivieres Quebec
running 2 struts from the bottom angle of the cross member, back onto the frame would remove as much flex as is possible with that mounting system. Just a thought ...
Unbelievable you didn't realize that would happen !!!!
Any thought given to boxing the frame plus your crossmember add ons.
Hi Nate Jolene and Chad good job
Pas facil mais Chad en a vu d·autres !! thanks Yolene ...
Hello from fredericton NB
Yo Chad check out how they brace up Low riders frames that hop you got a lot go in that bad boy !! Looks awesome
Chad, my opinion in addition to this you'll need a significant frame to frame cross member as without it this fix likely won't prevent the frame from twisting as the motor torques.
Good afternoon! Nice to be inventive and make what you need to keep on budget, I too am a conservative like that. Hi Jolene and Fina, miss watching your welding skills!
i love that name good one for the car.
Can you triangulate square rod from the bottom corners of the new brace to the frame rails below the engine mounts? It seems that more stability is needed to assure integrity,
No worries 👍 piece of cake 🎂 for a man of your caliber Go for it Chad 👁🐅👌