Manor That's Back to Front - Chenies Manor House, Buckinghamshire | S12E01 | Time Team
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Tony Robinson and the team visit Chenies Manor which is believed to have been upgraded in time for Henry VIII's visit around 1530. However, while a late 16th-century inventory suggests that an additional range of rooms fit for a king once existed, traces of them have vanished since the house fell into disrepair. Can the experts uncover the layout of the building as it appeared in Tudor times?
Series 12, Episode 01
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Just found that Elizabeth Macleod Matthews, the lady who owned Chenies, passed on March, 2016. RIP
Stewart found the building. No high tech or gadgetry, he used his brain and figured it out. Remarkable.
I really admire how he can look at landscape and figure these things out. People who can focus like that just amaze me. I get lost going from room to room, lol.
When you breathe this kind of stuff (or any other), you are in wave with the ones who made it, thus it's easy to surmise where something is and take a guess. An architect will always understand another, even if they're not even in the same century as laws of structure remain the same regardless of styles or trends. Same for this.
Absolutely!!!
Stewart is my fab on the show.
I think it’s an ability to see what is different from the natural lay of the land. He has an amazing ability. I have met others in different fields that had similar abilities. As an example that I learned in a forestry class. Find a beech tree, then look to see if it is the oldest one in visual sight. Even though they produce viable seeds, they produce new trees from the ends of their roots. Like the hub of a wheel and the spokes along its rim. Then you have a grove of beeches.
As a glass blower I'll never stop being amazed at how thin those tudor blowers got the window sheets for the glaziers. Truly timeless.
In one time team they said it was done by blowing a bubble first then flattening it out.
@@martynhaggerty2294 at that time you blew a bubble, reversed it so the lip was a hole, and spun it out flat. Then when cooled you cut squares off it.
Mick’s sweater and hats are a delight. I did see on one of the episodes he had gloves that matched the sweater. Very bright and homespun , looks lovingly made.
His old groupies would knit the them and send them in for him.😊
Someone needs to recreate and sell a commemorative Mick sweater/hat set - they'd make a fortune
No scientist am I, but I think it is wonderful how well these shows illustrate, if unintentionally, how the most un-scientific property of human nature is critical to the scientific process. That property being imagination. Excellent show!
Excellent Point and nicely stated!
Had to read it twice. Went over my head the first time. Great comment.
John and Stewart have the eyes of super man. The archeologists prove their findings so many times. This is a brilliant team effort.
Time Team addict here, so very glad you are reissuing these wonderful shows at a much higher quality. I was amazed at how clear the new ones are. Especially my favorite show: "Finds on the Fairway". I've probably watched that show 50 times. Thank you again.
Same here!!! That episode was the most exciting ever!
The Falconer is lovely and Carenza was an excellent pupil.
What is the name of the outfit the Falconer is wearing
“It’s just a different Tudor monarch!” And arguably, the more likable one! 😂
This was such an interesting TT and BEAUTIFUL. I Love the English sensibility and their countryside! Just gorgeous with the beautiful dogs running around the gardens.
I love watching Time Team. have been following it all the way through from Time Signs. As an added bonus, the wife is an archaeologist and has done some work with Helen Geake at The British Museum.
Is that where Helen finds herself these days? Wonderful spot for her to be. She was always the academic Apple of nicks eye. Such a whip smart person she is.
Excellent. He deserves a woman as smart as him.
I am always in awe(sometimes star struck) by the level of education and prestige the cast and guests bring to the table.
I've just found Time Team, an amazing series! Finland here 🇫🇮
Me too about a month ago
Welcome from England
@@biggseybigg3875 Welcome to England 😂 it's a cracking place, but "Sometimes" it's a bit soggy
Me also! From America. I need some escapism from all the wokeness going on in my country. This fits the bill! Thank you England
@@gerthinatorgaming5952 hey its sunny here ... today lol
I have learned more with Phil than any other school or class. Intriguing to watch and learn how, when and where all these beautiful findings come into play with every day life of people. Thank you for all the wonderful information and I would LOVE to learn more!!!!!
Facinating. What a brilliand piece of investigative archeology. It's always good to see the gang back together, and Victor's drawings, again bring the story to life.
I lived in Larimer in the late 1970's and went to school at Chenies. The school is next door to the Manor and we would look through the fence and make up stories about the people who lived there over the years. We also had school outings there occasionally. This episode was great, it brought back many wonderful memories for me. Thank you Team for being so brilliant at bringing the last to live for us (in many ways).
EDIT: Latimer. It was an MOD owner village then.
As a child we had a school trip from Radlett through Sarratt to Chenies...it's a beautiful place and watching this winds back time to a more gentle life.
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In my first watch through I think I may have skipped this one... possibly out of personal animosity toward Henry VIII as a tyrant & generally preferring the older/prehistoric digs ... but it is a very fun episode! And I may have to re-assess later historical period; it is interesting to get the historical record vs archaeology. Even if my bias is to feel more like "we know this already", as we can see, no we don't, always! Or ever, maybe. Glad to have inadvertently left myself some extra 'new' Time Team left for today
It is such a shame that a window tax is the likely reason the entire palace got torn down. Such a loss of architecture and history!
As a suggestion for a possible new series, I think it would be amazing if there is a VR version for every dig, so you can walk around it yourself and "find" all the finds they did in the episode.
Very true, what a strange tax. Sad.
What a good idea to do some VRs! I really like VR (360) video, actually. Doing “an hour at the dig” on a 360 camera or two at the middle of the site during filming would be very cool, and give a fly-on-the-wall perspective of not just the dig but the production process for the new show!
@@PtolemyJones A lot of strange taxes resulted in very specific developments. The Dutch taxes the width of a house, which is why the canal houses in Amsterdam are super narrow, but very deep and tall.
The Italians taxed the stroke of an engine, while the Brits taxed the bore.
Now Italian cars are high revving, small capacity, many cilinder race monsters, while the British use super long stroke, slow but high torque engines.
@@twobluestripes I think it would be amazing to make a 3D model was well, where you can walk though the manor house for example and have the view that Henry the 8th had from his bed.
@@Yvolve I believe in Greece you pay taxes on a property when it's finished.
That's why you see so many houses unfinished, with the rebar sticking out.
This has been the best one yet. And the lady owner of the manor totally reminds me of Penelope Keith in To The Manor Born
I learned the word "furtling" for the first time. Tony used it perfectly to describe Stewart Ainsworth. ❤
It was nice to see Raysan get involved with the investigation instead of just being the shows 3D modelling workhorse.
I wish they had given more information on where Spencer's drains went, that was fascinating to me.
The write-ups of these excavations are available if you are interested. I looked up one some time ago. If I rediscover the URL I will reply to myself here with it.
Write-ups? Ooh, yes please.
That was one interesting learn! I do too!
Brilliant, just brilliant! I had watched this on You Tube many times before but it was a much lower quality version, and seeing this again looking like new was fantastic. I am not criticising the other upload at all - I always thoroughly enjoyed it - and having visited Chenies several times in the past 10 years it is good to see the history and archaeology of the site again. Thank you Time Team!
Now my kids can have the same fun I did.
Wish it was back on the TV.
Can't beat a time team live dig. 👍📺
Brilliant. Such a tonic to watch again on a Sunday evening
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im canadian, and i've probably watched every episode here on youtube lol
It’s Sunday night a year late than your comment and I’m in the Hudson Valley NY loving this show😁🗽✨
@@commonsense571 Fantastic 😃
One of the most fascinating Time Teams.
Mick's striped jumper & Phil's hat ❤
And Micks striped hat, to match his jumper
@K Scott - I cannot imagine what that hat smelled like. When approaching him, did the other team members stand upwind?
@@MossyMozart They all mostly work outside a lot, probably everyone smelled similarly. 😅
I wish they sold reproductions in their merch shop, I'd buy them in a heartbeat!
More kudos from the other side of the pond. I learned more from this dig so I can alter my YA novel. I love everything about Time Team!
As with many of the explorations I would love to see how in the years since the episode was made the impact has been. Whether other teams have continued the projects, what else has been found or whether other related digs have shown anything else?
I wonder - and its a question I posited- whether with the new series could go back and explore/revisit old sites to give updates as well dig new sites, after all some of the more well known digs in the show have been last seen over 20 years ago.
Most excellent archaeological truths revealed. Absolutely love the process.
Phil is my favourite, love his pronunciation of some words, & his humour. Rachel NZ🌈🌝
Stewart at most times becomes the whipping boy to those who hold the view of most of the so called 'experts', i just love how is brain and eye adds another point of view to what we know about a site. Sometimes he is also very wrong, but the different point he adds interests me no end and makes the show much more facinating. ....................For me he adds no end to the Time 'Team'.
I really enjoyed Carenza and her Falconry!
USA here. I love your history.. Brovo...
Fabulous. I so enjoy watching this amazing team of experts puzzle it out by using all those diverse skill sets!!
THE TUDOR BIRD SKIRT!!! 🤣 that is a laugh I sorely needed 💔
When Elizabeth I visited Sir Henry Lee, her jousting champion, in September 1592 ( when the Gheeraerts portrait was presented ), the Queen's people were put-up in a tented village on the grounds.
Sir Henry wrote a play for the Queen and it was performed in a large tent in the gardens. R. Dudley was extremely jealous.
The King's visit to Chenies may have been a tented village for the staff.
One of the fascinating nuggets of information was learning that falconry was the origin of the word 'codger.' I'm an old codger myself, in that I once owned a Ford Falcon. Bit tenuous, I know...
Yeah, gives you gray hairs, doesn't it?
So nice to see in 1080p and full frame.
Stuart Ainsworth = Best job in the world
I think my favourite time teamer. He seems so in tune with the way the land lies that his analysis appears intuitive, like an art almost, and yet it's clearly grounded in science, study and knowledge.
He's a landscape archaeology teacher now I do believe
@@joshschneider9766 Now "Professor" Stuart Ainsworth, passing on his phenomenal knowledge to many new generations of students.
Stuart is also one of my favourites and when I was a kid watching the show in the late 90s/early 2000s I still remember being drawn to his helicopter rides and looks at the "big picture". I have since developed a great love of history in part because of the show and an important element of it is a hobby interest in historical maps. I love to try and understand the landscapes of the past and all the information you can glean from the maps as well as appreciating their aesthetic beauty. I believe this is in no small part due to Stuart's influence on my passion, which is as strong today in my 30s as it has ever been.
Stuart is by far the smartest person on the show.
He spells his name Stewart not Stuart for future reference
Add those bay windows, and you've got better designs than the modern stuff. Incredible scale of building.
Could they not have found an umbrella for poor Tony at the end? Another great episode, thanks.
I could watch time team all day
Im amazed a building that important didnt keep record. - last week we removed the wing from there and there and next week this wing is gone. BUT then we wouldnt have time team. Thank you TTC for the upload. And again, rest in peace Victor, have a glas with mick and Robin wherever you guys are ❤
I guarantee there were records (tax records, tithe records, tithe maps after 1830) but they rarely last several centuries, unfortunately.
Who is Jonathan? Very funny and the usual fantastic vocabularies that would make Americans appear inconceivably RUSTIC. Great show, thank you.
I hope whoever thumbs down these shows have a centapede crawl on their face
Time Team Rocks
UP THEIR ARSE
And their nose and earholes
At 14:52, when Tony points at the middle wall and says "No windows", he pointing RIGHT AT ONE! You can plainly see the different brick and mortar used to brick up the window. The vines also have rectangular patterns. This is probably because of the Window Tax, but I'm shocked that they didn't see that.
44:45 As Phil would say "OH AH!" I guess I should have watched to the end before commenting. I do love being right, though.
I hope Stewart knows he has many fans
Best way to spend a Sunday evening. So interesting to watch.
Victor Ambrus. 💟
I'm in Phx, AZ. Love this show. Thank you!
Hello AZ✨
Love from New York 🗽😘
Every episode I keep thinking Stewart MVP. Always blows me away
Pretty funny to see Tony wearing a cadge before his Worst Jobs stint
I love the stories, great job time team!
Love time team. So sad! some of the casts are no longer with us ❤
Fucking love whenever I look at the comments on these episodes its always "Stewart is a genius" or "John is so good at his job" lol, it's awesome
This should remind us not to believe most things written on the net today, including Wikipedia I'm afraid. Well done Stuart.
Or Yoohoo news!
(there I go, getting all political and everything.)
The bigger problem is that so many people are too closed minded or stupid to believe/recognize truth these days, regardless of of it's source. People look for the truth they want to believe, not the actual truth.
Excellent comment. I'm a historian and writer and couldn't agree more. Anyone can put something on the Internet and, unfortunately, for many people, if it's on the Internet it must be true.
Many thanks for the uploads.
Suprising work of Steward !
Splendid result from a wonderful speculation!
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Elizabeth Cheney of Chesham Bois married Benedict Lee of Hulcott, Buckinghamshire in 1495. Their Grandson Henry Lee of Quarendon ( who owned a lot of Epping Forest and a house in Stratford, Essex, and has a velodrome named after him LOL ) was the progenitor of the Lee family, Earls of Lichfield, house at Ditchley Park.
Most excellent!! Thank you 😊
I think billing this episode as the Queen Katherine Howard Affair House would draw more eyeballs
And this is why I love Stewart. :)
Great show.
One of my birds was a HARRIS’S HAWK, JUST LIKE THE ONE IN THE VIDEO! Wonderful bird!!ken p.
Great stuff!
I miss Mick!
the building and the digging is always fun to watch but to me the episode's star was the falconry demonstration. the training was almost akin to aerial bullfighting (with a less gruesome ending of course) clearly i adore Raptors by the way my part of Virginia is starting to one again team with Red Tailed Hawks, 30 years ago they were a rare treat to see, these days they still are a treat but i see at least one on practically a daily basis. Conservation in action has saved these magnificent birds.
Phil- let’s get on them, dig a trench! Early days yet!
I know it was annoying to have to completely change the dig location, but seeing 'behind the scenes' is very interesting!
I think Phil must dig archaeology in his dreams. “Let’s get on then”.
Stuart ainsworth didn't get enough credit ever. A bit of a push out from the bunch. And yet all he had was maps shapes to look for things.
Well done
I can’t even imagine how exciting it would be to unearth even a little bit of a place where a Tudor monarch had stayed, walked, and slept. Being an American isn’t nowhere near as exciting as being from the U.K. I just imagine being surrounded by all of those old buildings and stuff would be great.
Thank you.
This house belonged to my Ancestors, The Russell's, Dukes of Bedford, Buckinghamshire & Bedfordshire. Connections Queen Catherine HOWARD a cousin. Missenden Abbey.. William Missenden had this built. the church has a plaque for the Inwardbys connections to the Missenden LINE, Near Chequers, which is another big red brick house, belonging to a Russell.
lol
@@johnnylaroux9517 🤣🤣🤣
You must arrange a bus PUB for Phil. HA HA HA.
Benedict Lee of Baginton, Warwickshire, my 11x GGF, was a 'henchman' mounted bodyguard for Henry VIII. Mary I gave Benedict Bygging Hall, Grandborough, Buckinghamshire. There, Captain Thomas Lee, my 10x GGF was born in 1553.
Stewart was right more often than he was wrong throughout the series. Holistic analysis.
Brilliant
that wing with no windows part, theres a factory near me that looks like that, like it was meant to be added to but never was....
Love this house
Thank you. Have you heard the story that the lack of windows on the south, sunny side was to protect the house from the plague raging in London and the South? Whatever, it's so good to watch.
The lack of windows was due to the window tax imposed in England (and France) during the 18th century. It's similar to various "bathroom taxes" imposed on new construction in America beginning in the 1980's, where the more bathrooms a house had, the greater the tax because of "increased demands on sewer and water services".
@@maxsdad538 Thanks for this information. Having visited Chenies Manor several times it appears that the South walls were built without windows rather than having windows blocked up. However, I'm no expert in history, architecture or archeology so I appreciate any insight into life in bygone years and I don't think we'll master time travel in my lifetime so it's good to hear from you. Best wishes.
When I first started watching these shows my interests were in the Roman period..more recently the early Norman to the Seventeen hundreds as my daughter has been tracing the family trees both mine and her mothers, mine is Dutch German (including Saxe Coburg Gotha) and French, whereas her mother's well, that is a case of the who's who of British landed gentry, and Royal houses, including two of Henry VIII wives, and Henry himself (cousins of varying degrees) Curious to know which of the Consort Queens stayed in this house.
29:19 Who Let The Dogs Out? Woof…Woof Woof 🐶
Too bad Mick is gone. I would have loved to know where he got his homemade sweater(jumper) and matching beanie hat on this episode at day one. Anybody know where I could figure it out
I have seen posts of people who said that fans knitted the jumpers and caps for Mick. Apparently once he started wearing one it inspired others to go to work and send them to him. I'd love to find one and wear it, totally not my choice of attire, but wearing it would remind me of Mick and this great program.
Specifically a little old woman knitted them for him during the first season and sent them to him. And because fans were so enamored by the adorably eccentric look when he wore them during an episode, as thanks, he kept wearing them for the fans. I don't remember much more detail than that, but that's the story! I love how educated and refined he was, yet wore homemade multi-colored jumpers. It's absolutely adorable- and that's why he kept it up! It is subtle marketing, after all. ;)
Don't remember when/where on Time Team, but have a strong memory of hearing in a program that it was Micks mother who made his sweaters.
Can you imagine being that Dad guy in the 1700s seeing it falling down and being like "nah its too expensive, too much work"
Here's a bit of research demanded, did Mick knit his sweaters and caps himself 🤔😄
Lol these were made by fans of Micks.
Mick the dig has turned into the Mick the twig
Based on his arrogance, I've always referred to him as "Mick the prick".
They didn't need to show Bridge and Stuart talking about the chaulky dig from behind (pun not intended)....but they did. Ugh LOL
Geez it’s bad enough when 5 relatives want to come and stay, imagine 1000, their luggage and their horses, carriages and tack, 😵💫
When they left you would be exhausted almost insane and BROKE!
Strange plan for a Manor House
ZZ TOP….TV dinner…nice song
Quite possibly built in collaboration with Bergholt Stuttley Johnson.
Also, Jonathan Foyle. 😊
Can anyone PLEASE tell me what kind of bird sings several times for 15 seconds starting at 1:00 and several times thereafter? Can hear it really well just after 31:40 - dead serious, there's a reason I'm asking. It's a chirper - not the falcons. Additionally, this is one of my fav Time Teams!!!
The bird that you can hear singing is a robin...
@@RobKoelman Thank you, Rob! Aw man, he must be imitating other birds. Any Robin experts? hee hee Unless he's a Robin with a British accident :P
🍻🤓👍🏼 Vic A ✨✌🏼
Our condolences to our British friends on this sad day. It truly is the end of an era.
27:45 ..... like people would risk their lives breaking anything of the King's .... the fine china went WITH the king