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DUNE: PART TWO is INSANE
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The thing I love about this iteration of DUNE is its feeling of timelessness. It feels futuristic, yet ancient. It takes place on distant planets but echoes Earthly history like the brutal Spanish colonization of the Americas, the romantic city of Petra, exotic riches of the Silk Road. It feels like a fully realized world. As hardcore as the Fremen are, I like that we sometimes see their lighter side too... Stilgar being the embodiment of that when his humorous nature shines through.
And then Hans Zimmer to top it all off with the score..... fantastic movies
Brutal british colonisation
@@cringekiller348 wasnt brutal enough, look how it turned on them lmao
Jessicas' immediate change in character after taking the water of life was incredible, jarring, and unsettling. She was absolutely bewildering from that point on, probably my favorite character in pt 2, narrowly beating out Paul and Stilgar
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Best Supporting Actress 2025.
Thats what happens when you gain life memories of all the reverend mothers before you.
This is why Paul changed as well.
Also, Paul legitimately didnt want that end, but having his hand forced into going South left few options other than assuming the mantle. Though his prescience is faulty before the Water of Life, he knows that the realization of his "birthright" will fundamentally change him and the universe, which is why he was dead set on staying in the North for as long as he could.
There's also the realization that if Paul can see multiple futures and the one he picks still ends in immense, widespread suffering, can you imagine the outcome in other timelines? This is the true burden Paul takes on when he drinks the water. Its the trolley problem on a galactic scale; do you cause immense suffering for a large but not total group of people, or do you let the universe as a whole descend into chaos where everything burns to ashes?
Problem is that Paul could have averted it earlier, but he was too driven by revenge to do so. He even saw fairly early on where it all was headed, but deluded himself into thinking he could change it. This really is what makes Paul such a great tragic villain; you can fully understand why he takes the actions he does, even though they, in combination with some factors that are beyond his control, lead to unspeakable horror.
@@hoon_solexplain how Paul could’ve avoided it
@@chadphelps5809:
Have you read the book? The first occasion where it's explicitly mentioned that he could have gone and done something else was in the tent after the Harkonnen attack, which is quite different in the book than in the film. Already then he's aware of what the different paths ahead will bring, and yet he deliberately chooses that one because he desperately wants to believe that he can change the outcome (the jihad, the "holy war") while simultaneously getting the revenge he seeks and avoiding other things about the alternate paths he doesn't like; but he's fully aware that that those paths would be very unlikely to lead to the horror he ends up causing.
And then even after that there's another occasion after he's killed Jamis when he thinks to himself that to prevent his own legend from rising whether he lives or dies, he'd have to kill everyone present in that moment, including himself. Of course an extremely hard choice to make, but if we want to go the way of the "trolley problem" as described by the comment I replied to, you'd have to consider how sacrificing yourself and a handful of people to prevent billions and billions of horrible deaths could very much be a much better outcome overall.
But like I said, it's very understandable why he does what he does at every step along the way, including due to circumstances that are far beyond his control; it's really the archetypal tragic villain story, to a tee.
Yeah, I wish they'd fleshed that out a bit more in the film, but understand they didn't want to risk bloating the runtime, even though people were pretty much begging for as much Dune as possible in the lead up to pt 2.
@@hoon_sol Does it state that: "Paul had other options of surviving, with the freeman being safe, that he knew about 100% and that he screwed up by choosing that path because he wanted revenge"? No assumptions at all.
"This is the romance I'm here for..."
Margot is married 😅
Though he didn't make the cut, Tim Blake Nelson played Count Fenring in this version, the Emperor's personal assassin and Margot's almost Kwizatch Haderach husband. It's a shame his scenes didn't get included because Fenring is 100% badass.
Heck yeah
It recently came to light that he was actually supposed to play the captain of the spice smugglers.
It's strange to say a movie nearly 3 hours long feels too short, but we also didn't get the continuation of Thufir's story or Paul and Chani's 1st child. And I would love to have seen Count Fenring as well.
@@Dystopia1111 The 2000s miniseries covers 90% of the book and in less time than the 21/24 combined 😅 It's amazing what can be fit in when the director doesn't waste time.
The future is literally pregnant with possibility. Jessica and Margot are pregnant, and this could also be true of Chani.
I expect Chani pregnant in part 3 for sure, the timeline in the movies is off compared to books, but it still makes sense.
I didnt like the way movie Chani behaved pretty much opposite to the book but i can accept it and i bet it will be resolved in the 3rd part.
all the worms are Shai-Hulud, this God or high power in the universe, expresses itself in the worms.
1:09 and the emperor said it needs more cowbells. 😅
6:50 the Bene Gesserit designed the prophecy of the Lisan al-Gaib So that it would match what they estimated the abilities the Kwisatz Haderach would have. Sort of like me predicting there would be a man who can keep many balls in the air at the same time. And then The juggler that I had previously hired arrived. Prophecy fulfilled because I designed it to be.
yeah, i think something people get a bit confused by is how near-perfectly Paul seems to fit the prophecy. I see alot of people think 'the prophecy must be real!' when it's just how meticulous and effective the bene gesserit missionaries have been as well as how uniquely capable their genetically planned psychic warrior turned out to be.
it's honestly quite sad but also hilarious when you see people assume at the end of this movie that Paul is a real messiah and not a deliberate plant years in the making.
You clearly didnt read the books
@@PetsUnited0 I read the book in 1976. 3 times since.What do you think I didn't understand?
@@PetsUnited0 What on earth could you possibly mean by this? Nothing he said was incorrect... ???
1:38 Paul doesn’t give a crap about Princess Irulan. It’s just a political move. She later comes to him with demands as Empress and he tells her “You were chosen to play a role. You know who my real wife is”
I kinda felt sorry for Irulan when i was reading through the Dune series. She ended up loving Paul, caring for the twins and during all that, she got made fun of for not being such a good Bene Gesserit.
yeah i loved the black and white cause of the sun washing out all color but dark and light
It’s infrared.
Paul's visions are metaphorical right until he drinks the Water of Life. At that point his Bene Geserit skills and collective memories, Mentat logic and the Water elevate his visions to being true prophecy.
If one knows the correct answer to every question does one have free will? The Holy War and the brutality that arises after is the least worst choice, a desperate attempt to head off an even more horrific future.
And even knowing that, eventually Paul proves to be a coward and turns away from the Golden Path, dooming his own son to a living hell that he refused.
And Duncan... poor Duncan. The suffering of Duncan Idaho is nearly eternal.
There is a critical quote from the books that I think adds essential context to the relationship between Paul, Chani and Irulan. "History will call us wives", Jessica says to Chani, because that it something they have in common: both could not marry their true loves because of political necessity.
Not entirely, some of his visions even before then are of actual futures, some even of the future that does in fact end up happening.
*SHAI-HULUD:* _Sandworm of Arrakis, the “Old Man of the Desert,” “Old Father Eternity,” and “Grandfather of the Desert.” Significantly, this name, when referred to in a certain tone or written with capital letters, designates the earth deity of Fremen hearth superstitions. Sandworms grow to enormous size (specimens longer than 400 meters have been seen in the deep desert) and live to great age unless slain by one of their fellows or drowned in water, which is poisonous to them. Most of the sand on Arrakis is credited to sandworm action._
In the book Jessica has the baby before the end of the movie, and the baby will have 4 years (so the period of time is longer in the book) : Alia. Also, Alia kills the Baron with a Gom Jabar, not Paul....an example of differences between the book and the movies.
A better change I’d argue. It would be weird to watch a toddler kill the Baron. Better to watch Paul do it himself
Yeah I gotta say I'm much of a fan of movie Alia, book Alia is... weird.
A lot of people fail to glean that, this is a truly supernatural universe, and that by drinking the life water Paul has Gained "Perfect Prescience", he literally sees all futures at once with perfect clarity. This isn't him succumbing to the prophecy, this is him ignoring what he can't control, which is a holy war in his name that has already begun, this is him taking the reigns and steering it in a direction that will protect Chani, Jessica, his Sister, and give justice to the Fremen, all while minimizing casualties. Every outcome where he doesn't intervene is worse.
I don't understand how anyone can't understand that when it's explained in the movie lol
@@FireNooodles Yet there's so many reactors going "Oh he's bad now" "How could he do that to Chani", when even after he drank the life water he's expressed to Chani directly that he's doing this for her. There were so many "lucid" moments paul had on screen after the life water where he's explicitly stated, this isn't the way but it's the only way, showing he's playing his part even though he hates it.
It's weird. People's emotions overwriting the expressed plot.
EXACTLY
Agreed
@@wilwaycoholland4337 Well, one can argue that you believe what Paul tells you. Maybe he does not see only one way. Maybe he wants the power, the revenge. Maybe, after drinking the water of life, he is more detached to all the killings he is about to cause. Maybe he went to help the Fremen, and now the Fremen are helping him. For him, Fremen are burning bodies, not caring about the water, about the Green Paradise, leaving their planet.
Maybe Paul is bad.
Fact : atomic bombs are forbidden to use directly on humans or destroying a planet in the Dune Universe, that's a agreement between great houses. If one house desobeys, all the other houses would attack this house. Why ? because past experiences, horrible ones, occured in the hystory of Dune universe, that's in the books....Earth was destroyed by atomics before the Butlerian Jihad against the machines, also Salusa Secondus home of the Sardaukars
22:04 Feyd got all up in her box.
Hey dude likes pain 😉
So, "technically" speaking, in the Fremen culture the Mahdi is the messiah that will lead them to paradise, while the Lisan al-Gaib is "The Voice from the Outer World", that is a foreign figure that will come to Arrakis and become their Mahdi. So, those two words are a reference to slightly different concepts and roles but according to the prophecy the Fremen were exposed to, they will end up pointing to the same person.
The exposure of the Fremen to the prophecy was the work of the Bene Gesserit that over the centuries spread some kind of variation of that prophecy to basically every "primitive" world whose population they had a chance to indoctrinate. The purpose was to prepare the local cultures to accept Bene Gesserit agents and manipulation.
That’s right-Frank Herbert was inspired by the idea that there is no the future. There is only a future, possible futures. And that is all Paul sees.
Great reaction! Possibly the best movie ive seen in the theater.
Yes ! you see Alia in this movie, called Saint Alia of the Knife later. She's very important for the sequels : Messiah of Dune and Children of Dune.
Great reaction. But some of your speculations are not going to pan out. Just remember. Paul told Jessica he saw only one way out. It might not have been what he wanted. But it was the only way that would work. Paul is a bit of a question mark. But the Emperor and the Baron and the Bene Gesserit showed their hand. I will take my chances with Paul, thank you very much...... ha ha. And thank you very much. I love your style. Will be back for your other reactions. Dune 3. Which is really the second book of the series. Called "Dune Messiah" will take years to make. But I will be checking in on your channel regularly.
Heh, interesting speculation though, in later books it's suggested that the Messiah is yet to come too. That's... a ways down the story though.
Speculation? I just repeated what Paul said. No speculation involved. Also, the Emperor. The Baron. And the Bene Gesserit had their fates changed because of Paul's actions. Again, that was determined in the book and in the movie.
Paul told his mother he saw only one way out--for them, though proponents of the Golden Path would say otherwise. After decades of reading this series, I'm rather doubtful of claims that the Golden Path really was the "only" rational choice. We're talking about a choice made by Leto II, who was a sociopath, and no one else. An entire galaxy filled with humans, and one person decides what happens? In essence, the series says that humanity didn't take one step forward in human development since the days of Gilgamesh.
@@rikk319 agree, a. Self fulflfilling prophecy if there ever was one. Ultimate power - ultimate corruption. I think that is what Herbert tried to say with his first book and many misunderstood it for a hero story. Book 2 to 4 IMO are Herbert’s way to show the intent behind the first book. 5 and 6 are more like having to realize that clinging to established power (Bene Gesserit) over change (merge with honored maters) will lead to ruin. All in all very wise themes I can appreciate very much! May Duncan always be that wise 😉
Matres… not maters. Autocorrect screwed me over 🙄
That's not like the book in the end : Chani understand this political mariage as Jessica understood to not be marrired to Duke Leto, because of politics between the great houses.
We can’t have a female lead who is totally in love and devoted to her man’s vision. LOL. What kind of craziness would that be.
I love how hard you geeked out for the harkonen home planet lol.
I really am in love with the Gigeresque Harkonnen aesthetics and Austin as Feyd is 🔥🔥🔥 🤘 I am with you! Thanks for the reaction! It's a very well done and visually impeccable movie indeed.
DV went with the all black David Lynch look, which Lynch borrowed from Geiger's design work for Jodorowsky's failed attempt. The ripples of the Jodorowsky still make waves today.
@@LordVolkov and who could say no to Gigers art…. 😊 Love his air brush phase (the sculptures were not for me) . He elevated a basic horror movie in space to perfection! Ridley Scott directed well but Gigers Alien design made it what it is at least for me.
The book has a little glossary of terms that helps understanding it.
Shai-halud is the Fremen name for the sand worm, reserved for full grown 'makers' usually.
Lisan Al Gaib - voice from the outer world
Mah'di - messiah
Similar concepts, both part of the planted Bene Gesserit 'prophecy' that allows BG to insinuate themselves into indigenous cultures like the Fremen.
Muad'Dib would be a more perfect name if DV didn't ignore the significance 😅
Muad'Dib is wise in the ways of the desert - Paul knows the Fremen ways without being taught (He shall know your ways as though born to them), but here he needs sandwalking lessons to pad out the time.
The teacher of boys - in the book, Paul teaches the Weirding Way (BG martial arts) to the Fremen who in turn train legions. In the 21, the Weirding Way is a single line and not in the 24 at all.
I just love the complaints. Always "if he didn't ignore". He knows ALL the story. DVs favorite book. Anything missing was a deliberate choice to cut away all but the most central scenes. Complaints like this are stupid, since they presuppose that the movie could just succeed with a 6-hour runtime. That is - with all due respect - retarded.
Paul literally has no other way. If wants his mother, sister and chani to live he had to go through this he has to start the holy war.
I guess the needs of the few take precedence over the needs of billions...
@LordVolkov In the end, it's best for all of humanity actually in the long run even if it contains horrors. That's the golden path.
@@LordVolkovIf Paul hadn’t started the jihad the rest of the universe might have exploded in endless civil wars, which would have been even worse. People need power and will do anything to get it.
@@danielschaeffer1294 Civil wars between whom, over what?
@@LordVolkov There are a lot of other great houses that refuse to bow. Didn’t you hear Gurney? If they’re not taught a lesson, they’ll eventually turn against each other in a bid for the throne. This is a feudal system, and such systems operate on power alone.
Shai-hulud is just the freman name for the worms, it isn't one specific worm.
The way they control them while riding is the worms have scales that cover basically gills. When they are on the worm they have hooks that pry up the scales which expose the gills. The worms then can't re-enter the sand because it would basically choke them (normally the scales are covering the gills)...so that forces the worm to stay on the surface.
It isn't just the name for sandworms, it's the name of the Fremen earth deity they worship.
Rebecca Ferguson is so dam fine
"Nah, that was a look of vengeance." OR, maybe, a 400m sandworm was approaching and she needed to concentrate on that.
One of my favourite reactions so far! You were so into it, loved it!
The great houses calling Paul's bluff is so funny to me because Paul immediately backs down 🤣🤣🤣
'Whoops, you got me guys! The spice must flow... and so will your blood!' 😅
Paul should have just nuked the spice fields and let the great houses figure out how they were going to feed their people without space travel.
In the book Paul has water caches planted over every pre-spice mass on Arrakis, and releasing them would destroy the life cycle of the worms and disrupt the entire ecosystem of the planet. Spice production would end forever and the universe would die in isolation and darkness. It's a much more credible threat than 'nuke the spice fields' but requires a bit of not ignoring the book to set up. The crusade still happens, but in a religious war against the OCB (Orange Catholic Bible) followers, something else not set up 😅
"The unvierse" wouldn't die. First off, there's no mention of any other galaxies colonized or even contacted in the books, just the Milky Way...the arrogance is of Shaddam calling himself "Emperor of the Universe" when they haven't even travelled beyond their own galaxy.
Second, populations and civilizations would crumble without space travel delivering food from food-rich worlds to worlds that produce other commodities, true...but it wouldn't result in the extinction of humanity. They'd go back to pre-space travel populations, unable to ever contact each other again...so they'd be like our technology level now, just without computers, and if there was no one to enforce the "no computers" law without space travel, then I'm sure people would eventually go back to using them.
It's like people whining when the power or internet goes out...sure, you can still make do, even if it isn't optimal or what you want. All space travel really allowed was their futuristic feudalism to run rampant across the galaxy, anyway.
Never seen anyone root for the Harkonnens before.
Jessica is not evil !!!! that's a critic we can make about the movies comparing to the books.
I'm not so sure. I see the Bene Gesserit as evil - they treat people as things.
SPOILERS
MILD?
The Golden Path /One Way To Survive stuff is all Herbert hating on liberalism and being a total Calvinist. Step out of the story - Doyle, not Watson. Frank Herbert decided that "decadence" is destroying this world and only one hideous path saves anyone. The people who walk that path are *still evil *.
and what if Chani was so upset with all this because she's already pregnant.... 🤨
To steal from “The Princess Bride”, Paul was only mostly dead.
The change from the book in this last scene is that Chani is angry at Paul - as she should be. In the book however, Chani and Empress Irula handle it a lot better. They both discuss the arrangement, and agree that while Irula is officially his wife, it’s purely a business arrangement and nothing more. Chani is Paul’s true love, and they make clear as such.
18:43 And THAT is how you introduce a villain!
Muadib: "Your mother's warned you of my coming"
Paul...you dawg
Dune as a story is more about power and about how power isn't free. If you don't do what is necessary to keep and maintain power then you die, your family dies, and even worse someone else has power to abuse it. If Paul isn't in power then Feyd-Rautha would have power and you'd have the entirety of the fremen wiped out in the Harkonnen genocide, or you'd have them turned into a Harkonnen military force like the emperors sardaukar guard. Or you'd have Feyd-Rautha controlled by the bene gesserit witches using lust and humiliation like they said earlier in the movie.
In the universe of Dune at least, with the lessons the books choose to support, the Emperor wasn't wrong when he spoke to Paul at the end. Paul's father died and failed because he was too weak to rule. Paul is trying to walk the line and not make the same mistakes his father made and tow the very narrow path as well that he's foreseen.
I will simply remind you that Jessica was not married to Duke Leto 🤷🏻♀️
And, I think I’ll just ask: Are you into The Tarot, at all?
Oh, and yeah, in the vision of Anya she is his unborn sister, (which leads me to believe that she’ll play his sister after she’s born as well.)
You may have missed on the whole daughter of the Baron thing, but you are the very first reactor that immediately picked up on the fact that the body was Jamis' in the beginning! :)
Welcome to the Dune rabbit hole XD
He is following the path of survival. I dont get why people see him as evil. The holy war would happen anyway, he chose the way for it to happen that benefits the fremen. He saw the future, he knows what hes doing. Chani never even believed Paul had visions. But she also didnt want the bombs power. I dont know what she was expecting.
Remember Paul said "She'll understand. I've seen it."
Herbert wrote Dune and Dune messiah as a warning for following charismatic leaders. Paul is such a charismatic leader but his war will cost billions of lives across the galaxy and the fremen will not exactly be the nicest people while invading other people.
Also it is really sad seeing Stilgar's arc from being a friend and a mentor to Paul to becoming a fenatic follower, cheering while Paul declares a war that will probably cost his own live.
Also the prophecy of the Lissan al Gaib was totally made up by the Bene Gesserit many centuries ago, for them to be able to control the Fremem like Paul is doing right now. Chani was onto some shit
36:56, when I meet a new cousin we usually shake hands and share a meal. These fools get to stabbing one another.
The Harkonnens were my favorite characters too and their world was the most interesting.
Chani putting in work against the sardakaur 👏🏻
Part 2 made me really love the Harkonnens, can’t wait to get to it he part when you see Feyd
You should watch the third movie, do not bet on the relation between Chani, Irulan and Paul.....but prepare hankershiefs !!!
Hi Laura. I am assuming you did’t see the 1984 Dune by David Lynch or the mini series which covers Dune, Dune Messiah and Children of Dune. Last I heard Villeneuve will combine Dune Messiah and Children of Dune to make the third movie. With the major changes he has done to Dune part 2 and combining the next two books into one, I have no idea what’s coming. I am blind at the moment, I can no longer see any beauty and only see the horror that’s coming, that I have this need to drink the Water of Life to see what’s coming……
He won’t do that. Children of Dune would be a 2-3 movie thing. He is not that bad to modify it if he won’t make it. He makes one movie as it is written so he will make Messiah. He respects the books. He changed here things but all can be used in the next logically. To change the 3rd book is not needed or necessary at all. He never said such a thing.
Lol. You read the clues really well. Good predictions!
It's not worm piss, LOL! It's the bile from a drowned immature sand worm. So it's worm vomit, LOL!
THE ORIGIN of the Bene Gesserit school !!! so very important. The future MAX TV serie ''Dune : prophecy'', Apparently will be from the book ''Sisterhood of Dune'' 2015 from Brian Herbert, son of Dune writer Frank Herbert, and Kevin J. Anderson. That's 10 000 years before the Dune movies, just after the end of the great Butlerian Jihad against the thinking machines. So more Dune stuff coming !
Great video, I hope the next one is not going to take too much, and they keep the director. As a fan of the books I say two things, to not give any spoiler, many interesting things we haven't seen yet and the Frank Herbert always said 'Be careful with the charismatic leaders', referring to Paul.
Frank Herbert took the plot from “Lawrence of Arabia,” worked in a lot of philosophy and comparative religion from Campbell and Toynbee, and produced “Star Wars” for literate adults. In this universe, civilizations are built on myths that are all inevitable and false, all eventually fall because of human weakness, absolute power corrupts absolutely, and history repeats itself in cycles of birth and destruction. Grim stuff.
And speaking of religion, I’ve seen a number of Muslim channels that are thrilled by this film. Little do they know …
My Dear, You are aware that there are 6 Main DUNE books and these movies part 1 & 2 are basically the First Book! I Recommend Reading the next 5 Books as a Must. Not sure you're aware that the Directors actively Writing the third Movie, which answers many of your questions... Man-Solo > Out...
Sorry to break it to you, but it's going to be _some time_ before the next film in the Dune series. Which gives you plenty of time to have another go at reading the book!
I'll keep saying it to anyone and everyone who enjoyed these films because of the political intrigue, the religious prophecy, or the lore of Arrakis - there's a lot more where that came from, the book. The first part was a struggle for me the first time, and I gave up on it too. Granted I was like 12 at the time, but I got a good few books under my belt over the next year or two before I tackled it again, and I got through it that time. It's really just the first part before the invasion that's the toughest, it gets easier after the actions kicks in.
That said, you've watched the films now, so you should find the book a lot easier. Highly recommended, but obviously stop after you finish the first book, since the next film is about Dune Messiah, and I'm assuming you wouldn't want to spoil your reaction to that film. In any case, I'm sure you'd find the ending much more satisfying.
Ok ! you want answers, not waiting for the newt movie : so read the books ''messiah of Dune'', ''Children of Dune'' and you will have the important answers, BUT the Dune Saga is far rom over with these 3 books... OR watch the TV mini serie Dune 2000, and the sequel 2003 Children of Dune (4h30) which incorporated the Messiah of Dune, these TV movies are very close to book story, so important to watch thirst the Dune 2000 TV miniserie (4h30)
First...nope, that was his sister...not his mother.....he had a vision of his sister being older
Second....Paul is NOT a hero....he is a villain, wrapped up in the garb/story of the hero figure. In the books, Paul is a villain....and here in this movie rendering, he is even worse
It's not his mom, it's his sister aleah that paul follows to the south. chani is going south to give birth. read Dune Messiah to get the answers to what happens next.
"Shai-hulud" is not only the Fremen word for sandworms, but a deity in their religion represented by sandworms.
Never forget, Bene Gesserit are crossing blood lines for CENTURIES !!! yes she's the duaughter of Vladimir Harkonen, but WHO IS HER MOTHER IF SHE HAS ANY ? speculations....The Bene Gesserit order is VERY important in the Dune universe, as other players not yet shown on the movies.....BENE TLELAX and IX. See the soon TV serie about the formation of the Bene Gesserit order : ''Dune : the prophecy'' based on the book ''the sisterhood of Dune'' from Brian Herbert (son of Frank Herbert) and Kevin J. Anderson
Nooo you cut out the "SILENCE" 😭
8:15 Cue a little Fremen Kenny G… ❤️❤️
Yeah, I think you're not gonna like the third one if you didn't like this 1. Paul did what he had to do because that was his pre determined future. He didn't have a choice if he wouldn't have done that. Millions would have died anyway. Because austin butler's character would have been made emperor. Paul doesn't see himself as a hero. He just has to be the one cause that's what they need right now
I will let you know that you are not stupid. Most people don’t realize that that’s Jamis’s body at the start even though they had it at the end of the last movie
Read the book. It’s life changing.
only the males can be the quizzett's hatarac. Because multiple females can drink the water of life and become benny jezerers, but the once in a lifetime male becomes all powerful, and florence pughs character is not evil. But You will see how things play out
They change Chani so much in this, but other than that, it's great.
hey hey. i'm just doing my nightly dune 2 reactions and your super cool intro made me comment! nice stuff, love it
Dune is a HUGE universe in the books, comparable to Lord of the rings (From Tolkien) or Foundation (from Isaac Asimov), they are masterpieces in SF literrature. So they are very complex books. The two movies are only the first book of the orignal 6 books from Frank Herbert (written 1963 to 1985), and expanded by his son Brian Herbet (and Kevin J. Anderson) with 16 more books. These movies can be appreciated without reading the books, but you miss A LOT of background facts. Also there are some details in the movies different from the books.
Brian is just a fanfic writer who basically made it a cash cow. It’s just he is his son. Still a fanfic level and VERY bad writing without any inspiration on the level of Frank Herbert. So let’s not mention it on the level of them. Who did that is Steven Erikson by the Malazan Book of the Fallen. That book series actually is on the level of Tolkien himself especially together with Ian the co-writer to that world. Now those books are masterpieces of literature and advanced fantasy, breaking tropes, bringing up themes and ideas to question at least on the level of dune/asimov.
Great leader can make mistake ! Paul do not see the future, he only sees possible future and he must acts to choose one ! the next chapters after these movies can be disturbing for us
24:44 To be fair the Atreides family like most of the Great Houses in the Landsraad have tremendous weapons of mass destruction in their possession. But 92 atomic warheads is nothing compared to what exists in the real world. The United States and Russia have thousands of warheads and a large number of them are nuclear not atomic.
The warheads are described as atomic not thermonuclear. Which means these are fission bombs not hydrogen bombs. Atomic bombs split atoms and to release masses of energy. Nuclear or hydrogen weapons use an atomic fission process to trigger the fusion of atoms and release even greater energy. So when you detonate a hydrogen bomb you are creating a small short lived star.
The most powerful fission bomb ever detonated was 500 kilotons. The most powerful hydrogen bomb ever detonated was 50 megatons roughly 100 times more powerful.
Sure Paul has firepower but compared to our real world he has a collection of pea shooters. And every moment of every day these horrfic devices are pointed at all of us. That is truly an abuse of power.
Oh, very good. Great reaction.
Maybe this will be interesting - Constantine (2005), Hellboy
The Bene Gesserit order ! nothing religious in this order.....watch soon the TV serie ''Dune: the prophecy'' about the origin of this order, adaptation of the book ''Sisterhood of Dune'' 2015 from Brian Herbert, the son of Franck Herbert, and Kevin J. Anderson (very good Star wars writer). We will know more about these Bene Gesserit plans.
The sister can NOT be the messianic figure...unless they change that from the books. PAUL IS THE KWISATZ hadarach.....and so is his son
The kwisatz hadarach came a generation too early
This rendering does NOT do the books justice
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen is bad, very bad, much more bad in the books than in this movie.
I had to comment for the stilgar love count guess. My guess...9 times?
I'll be honest and add an edit with the result, when I watch
What program do you watch your films on?
Can someone please explain why people (mostly women) just drip when they see Florence Pugh? I'm not saying she's a bad actor or she's unattractive. She is neither, but the fawning is just ... odd and over done.
Rabban is a bad boss. Stilgar was my favorite. But you loke the Goth planet!
Please react to the sadness 2021 movie..
like the first film, everything seems more than good, except for just one "detail": the protagonist, who continues to appear insignificant, insipid and without any charisma, quite the opposite of what the Kwisatz Haderach should to be.
to the problems of Paul's non-existent sister and much worse, the death of the Baron, one can also pretend nothing happened, but unfortunately what should have been one of the main characters of this second film, Chani, turned out to have been developed in completely wrong way, so much so that it seems to go against not only Paul but the entire struggle supported by his people.
Chani, at the end of this film, is the one who goes back to living in a Fremen way. Also someone had to point out that he's not the Messiah, just a very naughty boy, and Villeneuve picked Chani.
@@zoesumra9152 and Villeneuve was wrong.
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