Bolt Cutters: Urban Emergency Tool by TheUrbanPrepper
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Bolt Cutters are a very beneficial item to include in an urban emergency preparedness kit. There are many locations with chain link fence barriers that one might need to breach through in an emergency. Also, during an extreme event with massive building destruction, bolt cutters will allow you to cut through up to 5.2 mm of metal that would otherwise be much more difficult to do than with your standard multitool. Knipex is my brand of choice for Bolt Cutters due to their awesome German craftmanship and excellent cutting ability. I hope you enjoy watching this video and demonstration of bolt cutters!
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Thank you for watching this video! Here is a link to the Knipex 8-Inch Lever Action Mini-Bolt Cutter
, which I highly recommend:
amzn.to/2re0IRH . I have these bolt cutters in my Bug Out Bag in addition to my home Tool Bag. They're fantastic!
Good vid. & an american who pronounces kNIPEX correctly :)
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Thanks for damaging my fence son...
My “dads” fence lol
We get it
@@LarennPBel we do?
@@nanchanger lol
Your dad's gonna kill ya when he finds out what you did to his fence! :P
+Daniel Krishnan LOL! He was there watching me film it. That old fence has been replaced with the wood one you see behind it. He needs to dig out the old chain link fence someday.
+TheUrbanPrepper Hahaha! Awesome video btw, gonna get me some Knipex today! never had a chance to say this but, thanks for your videos, it has always very inspirational and helped me in my prepping and EDC! Kudos!
+Daniel Krishnan Thank you so much, Daniel! I'm glad that you enjoy watching my videos. Hearing comments like that really helps me keep motivated and continue cranking out new prepping videos.
Great addition to the line-up! I've worked in construction/ utilities for almost 20 years, Knipex pliers and cutters are 2nd to none.
Absolutely true! Knipex is Great craftmanship right! 🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪
My country good, other country bad!
picked up a pair today....not cheap but in an emergency worth every cent..very happy thanks for the review.
knipex are amazing, even their regular pliers!
Their line mans pliers also work very well for these tasks. Having the plier aspect is nice.
I like these. I can totally see these being useful for get home bags and BOBS. Maybe these would be nice to add to our car kits as well. I enjoyed the video. Thank you.
+LearningToBePrepared Thanks for watching!
Hey from Portland! I've always enjoyed your EDC Altoids Tin videos, and I have to say...this has caused me to add something to my BOB! I know that our Leatherman tools could possibly do the same job, I'd rather put my faith in a tool meant for the job.
Great video!
I bought a set of these after having to cut through a winch cable with side cutters a few months ago and it took about 5 minutes and my hand was cramping. I have to use 2 hands with the bolt cutters to do it but it will absolutely cut through the same cable in a about 2 seconds. Awesome little tool
Gotta love boltcutters! I have several sizes but not the quality of the knipex they look like a good brand. Thanks for the review, if I only they could miniaturize them with durable telescoping handles... I have seen some folders but they are still very big. Good disclaimer btw gotta cover your bases lol
+Canadian Prepper Haha... I always get worried that someone will reference my channel in a legal case: "The Urban Prepper told me to do it!". Gotta watch my 6. :)
what the frick!!
n8 got 1 comment only!!
not anymore!! not after COVID
"Canadian Prepper out!" :-)
great video, I always carry one in each of our get-home bags. great urban survival tool.
Yet another great idea for my EDC, that I hadn't thought about. I just bought the sillcock, though. Thanks!
As a landscaper I carried a pair with 14 or 18 inch handled bolt cutters in the truck to cut wire off root ball baskets and other unforeseen surprises in the soil, definitely a good bug out tool, one must always think outside the box for multi use items, good video as usual. Even those short handled ones will take out most padlocks.
No they won’t. They dont cut hardened steel very well at all. See project farm video. That’ll give u an idea of their capability
These work great for welders. I’m a pipefitter/welder and when your tig welding you usually cut your wire in half. Not a hard job with lineman pliers but when you get above 1/8” or get into stainless or inconel/chrome it gets tough. I clip my wire after every weld as well so I’m doing a lot of clipping. These are the bees knees. Makes standard wire feel like your cutting some thin tie wire and makes the stainless/exotics like a knife through hot butter. Only problem is you cant sit them on a table. They look nice and others notice. They will grow legs fast. As soon as I’m done cutting they go in my back pocket.
I’m a tradesman knipex is just awesome stuff I use the insulated tools they offer since I work with high voltage I no longer buy anything else if I can help it they can be a bit pricey but when you consider your buying it for life and they work better then anything else it’s a no brainer
I use the almost daily at work. They work awesome. Cuts feel like butter.
Thanks for the review 🙏 I can certainly forsee a scenario in which the Knipex would come in handy especially in urban environments where space tends to be a luxury so you'll come across many different types of wire fencing and in case of an emergency this tool can be a lifesaver. 👍
You make us want to buy everything you review on your channel . I wish you start getting paid for these reviews soon. As always you had your awesomeness on. Thank you for sharing.
+Twinkle eyes Haha! It would be fun to be able to quit my day job and just do videos full time. Unfortunately, the CZcams medical benefits package, 401k plan, stocks and paid time off are not up to par. Hopefully someday! :)
I use the Knipex all the time when muskie fishing. Use them to cut the hooks so I can release the fish quickly.
Works wonderful one-handed (In case you accidently hook yourself!)
Bolt Cutter would be very helpful if you need to "borrow" fencing to secure your house windows from entry.
I knew a girl who used bolt cutter to exit a limited access road due to a blocked road ahead. Many were helped by her actions.
Many uses. Great Review on my favorite bolt cutters.
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+Florida Prepper Haha!
Immediately, and always. Hit those bad boys with some FDC Camo paint and your good to go put that in your SHTF kit
An excellent item to have in your kit. Well done.
+SHTF-Art-of-War Creative name man.
+ZyPhReX Thanks. It seemed appropriate.
+SHTF-Art-of-War I like your CZcams name too!
Thank you for this comparison
Great video
Great video. Thanks a lot.
Nice, Knipex bolt cutters already in my amazon cart
One test I'd love to see with these is how the do up against fishing hooks, larger saltwater stuff is normally hardened. It would be ace if the 6 inch version ate the bend of a 5/0 hook, I'd keep one in my tackle bag for sure then!
Exactly what i was looking for
This was rlly helpful. Thanks😁
You should do a follow up to this showing how to efficiently cut through chain link fencing using multiple, 2, 1, and sometimes no cuts (2 bends and then unweave). Also the ratchet technique (rope/strap with stick) to pry up the bottom of the fence.
awesome vid, great idea!
I can attest to the quality as a second generation user my grandfather's Knipex tools (that is still have) say West Germany on them very cool,and I use there tools everyday at work they cost more because there ment to be bought once and to work the best which they definitely do
Germans are known for their engineering skills 💯
Another great set of pliers is Klein 9 1/2 “ lineman pliers. I’ve worked for the power company for going on 3 years now and I’ve had the same pair the whole time. I’ve cut everything from nails to wire all the way up to small diameter reinforced steel core cable. The pliers allow you to have a lot of leverage and they come with a life time broken or lost exchange guarantee. Bolt cutters are nice but in my opinion I like having one item that allows me to do multiple things. I highly recommend looking in to them. They are great and for a medium ranged budget you can’t beat them
Just bought one off Ebay for 50 bucks. Thanks for the review.
Dad - Some hooligan has been cutting my fence!
TheUrbanPrepper - ...
Great videos. Thank you!
Thanks a bunch, Alex!
Knipex makes some great tools. I know a lot of guys I work with have knipex tools.
I still stick with klein tools, mainly because I already have all klein and their stuff is slightly more so better for electricians. But I used to have a pair of knipex side cutters and they are great.
I worked doing fence installation for about 2 years and we used Klein lineman pliers to cut and they never dulled and always cut like butter.
Supreme bolt cutters
Excellent
i'm definitely going to get some of those Knipex bolt cutters.
+Schroeder_2000 You'll love them. They'll be the last bolt cutters you buy.
Nice review, Cliff, and those look like a nice pair of bolt cutters. I agree with your philosophy of buying the best gear you can. I get what Renaissance Marine says, but I'm more of a mindset that if I ever *do* need it, I want to be 100% sure that it is going to work, first time, every time. Of course, sometimes you have to work your way up to the best one you want, but it's all a process. Hey, and don't forget, if you run into wire or a nail your Knipex can't handle, you've always got your Leatherman!
+Whoozerdaddy Yep! That’s my philosophy as well. For me it’s like having good air bags in your car instead of inexpensive ones. I hope to never have them used, but if they are needed I want to have 100% trust in them. Leatherman’s are awesome tools! For my BOB, I’m making my Leatherman Multitool more of a backup tool instead of a primary one when possible.
I bought some Knipex mini bolt cutters.. Excellent quality they do a range for cutting various thickness and grades of metals. Padlocks are tough and need the largest in the range. My mini bolt cutters are just for cropping screws, nails, etc.. Not a mark on the super hardened Jaws.
Good tip. I have a larger heavy duty set in my bug out trailer. I don't go small on this type of gear, but that because of my philosophy against bug out bags.
+MrRayMac1963 Definitely a good approach. It would be cool to see your trailer setup!
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Here it is, here. This post is a little old, i've made a number of improvements since then, but its got the best pics.
+MrRayMac1963 Dude! This is incredible! I totally need to do something similar to this. Love it!
Thanks. Its my answer to a bug out bag. I can hook it to my truck in the same time so i figure go big, or go home. You are obviously putting in some serious work too my friend. Appreciate the vids. Keep it up!
Thx!!
iv almost bought those several times, never pulled the trigger, i do have knipex tools, they are very high quality
+Wandering Beast I've had the older model for 4 years now, which I bought used. I've been meaning to get the updated model. Very happy that I did. Love the craftmanship of Knipex tools!
Dad, who cut my fence?
Son, dang neighbor kids.
Got the 8 inch and 30 inch Knipex, to keep in truck. Should be able to do fence and most padlocks/chains.
Nice.
Knipex bolt cutters are excellent but single use - you might explore the knipex end cutters - they cut flush - they can pry out nails and the flat head can be used to hammer stuff into other stuff - they will cut nails - screws - wire - fence - and the jaws can open wider - the plier is also smaller so easier to pack - from 180 mm to 200 mm
thank you for the video the best part was your dads fence i was dying salud godbless
Yes Cliff these Knipex are my go to for cutting…great minds think a like.
+phillipzz1 They sure do! :)
Maun (england) makes some very good compact bolt/sprue cutters with force multiplier. They are a bit pricey though
Thanks, I inherited a bunch of tools and working on a project to substitute a wire hanger for something else, but if it doesn’t work, I’m going to buy the German brand to cut the original piece of metal tubing to a smaller size.
Leathermans will cut chain link fence. Knipex does make a bike tool that is made for cutting brake cables which can fit chain link fence, but its also smaller and has the ability to crimp connectors on bikes.
Would be useful in WROL to get into places.
If your going to spend that much money your better off getting a quality pair of high leverage side cutters if weight is an issue or a pair of linesman pliers. Both will cut chainlink easily and you'll have a pliers with the linesman pliers. Knipex and Klein both make great linesman pliers and diagonal pliers. In my INCH bag I carry Knipex Cobra, an insulated pair of combination pliers in case I have to deal with hot wires. Throw in a Klein 11 and 1 screwdriver and a adjustable wrench and you have a pretty capable set of tools for an urban environment. If you wanna go all in and do some serious scavenging add a small pry bar, a decent sized pair of bolt cutters, vice grips and a hatchet. Those are the tools we mostly used for scrapping and with them you can deal with about anything.
Those little Knipex bolt cutters are nice but if I were to choose I'd take the Tektons since they'd have a little more leverage. Tekton makes decent tools especially their American made stuff.
The video is great, this kind of tool is still very practical, not long ago, I bought a renhotecic brand pliers, it is very convenient to use, it works very well. Everyone can use a tool
Thanks for watching and commenting, Sandy!
How are those different from the Knipex?
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I keep a pair of fencing pliers in my BOB, they can cut almost all types of fencing, they have a hook for prying, a plier jaw that is great for removing hinge pins off of doors or pulling wire out of the way, and a hammer head. In a pinch they could also be used as a weapon with the spike and hammer head. You should take a look at them, normally they have two built in wire cutters so if one dulls you have a second.
+CrazyIrishMedic Nice! What brand/model do you have?
Mine are I have a Kobalt pair in my BOB and a pair made by Channellock that I keep in my bunker gear at the station. I use them for everything, they have broken windows, pried open doors, hammered off hasps, taken pins out of doors, cut down fencing hell they can do anything it seems like. If you wanted a good pair that would last through the zombie apocalypse, the Kobalts are good but I would go with the Channellocks they have been abused on the fire grounds for over a year now and still kicking. Honestly those and a small hacksaw would be able to get you though most fences, hasps, doors, windows ect.
Great vid as always buddy! You made me realize that this is one item i do not have in my bug out bag, but something that is totally needed. Just ordered the standard Knipex you have, £26 free delivery... a bargain i think : )
Cheers for the heads up on these buddy!
All the best, Jay
+GoonieBushcraft Very nice! Where did you order them from for that price?
Just the amazon app on my phone here in the UK. A lot of the others where £30-£32. Found this one with free delivery for £26.70... Perfect! : ) All the best buddy
I had bought a HK Porter pair they look just like the Knipex ones and cut great and I only paid $10.99 for them.
I preffer the large bolt cutter for cutting chains. Specialy when you try to evacute a city and there is a barrier bloking the road
I've had a set of farm fence cutters in my kit for ages. It is prob time to replace them due to a few nicks in the edges. I'll have to look into these models.
+Robert Showe What brand/model have you been using?
+TheUrbanPrepper Not sure. They are ancient as I grew up on dairy, cattle n such farms in Maryland-Virginia. Used for putting up and cutting barb wire n more. My guess is Chicago tools brand. Now that I think about it, it would be easy to regrind these edge(s) chicel grind curved with a round stone, so may just do that.
would be nice to have a comparison of weights.
Makes sense. Probably should have something larger in your vehicle. Padlocks etc
A hot commodity to my tweaker friends...
I think some multitools have cutters that would be sufficient to cut fencing. There are some benefits, for sure, but I'm just not sold on carrying a separate piece of gear that I may only use once or twice. Though, those are A LOT smaller than traditional bolt giant cutters. Thanks for the vid!
+Armed Rogue Excellent points. Those are questions I CONSTANTLY have with many of my BOB supplies: Is the cost and weight warranted? I’ve been moving more and more towards having dedicated tools in my BOB and keeping the multitool for EDC. For me, it’s like comparing the blade included with your Leatherman with a dedicated, high quality folding knife. I’ll pick a dedicated knife every time. I watched Mr. Leatherman cut through a huge bolt at Shot Show 2015, although he did it with a specialized contraption and his foot. Some benefits I had with the dedicated cutters are the extended reach (e.g., if cutting barbed wire), insulated handles (e.g., electricity going through the wire?), better performance and secondary use (e.g., I can always retire these to my home tool bag if no longer needed for my BOB).
TheUrbanPrepper I'm totally with you when it comes to certain tools need to be dedicated instead of part of a set or multitool options or some-sort. The insulated handle is a definite plus. I definitely see the benefits, but I don't know...I've never come across a real need for them and even looking around my general city, the fences are not that high/there's already a hole somewhere from someone else. This particular tool is definitely small enough to justify it if it's something you think you'll need. I'm still on the fence. I'll have to do some more, real dedicated research around my area. Thanks!!
If you only need to or plan to cut through chain link fencing a large set of wire cutters would go right through it. Stanley has a line called Fat Max and the large Stanley Fat Max wire cutters are BEAST and cost around 25 bucks. Mine are 10 years old and work great. Also if you get stopped by the man.. you aren't carrying a b&e tool.. only a stout set of wire cutters
glad to folks talking more about having fence cutters in their bags. you always do great vids.
my opinion: a minus-15 dollar pair of wire cutters (kobalt from lowes is a good brand) are absolutely fine for a go bag. they will cut the same wire pretty much as the knipex, they just wont do it as long. where those cheaper brands save money is on the hardness of their cutting teeth. knipex is great for your regular tool kit, they could well be the last cutters you ever buy. but if your throwing it in a bag that you may not ever use, and then only for a finite period of time, the cheaper ones are gonna be fine. just stay away from the harbor freight variety. so what im saying is i have the high quality ones in my tool box and truck. the lower quality ones go into go bags.
to me the big question is whether to stop with cutters that can do chain link, or to go to a bolt cutter. in an urban situation you may want to get past locks.....
+Renaissance MarineTV Good point. I saw they sell collapsible bolt cutters these days which bicycle thieves carry.
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agree and people forget most Leathermans will do the job too
my leatherman supertool has a hard time with chain link. i dont think it would last long cutting it. i carry both a supertool 300 and a pair of kobalt wire cutters in my get home bag.
I just made the same comment about versatility with cutting locks and chainlink.
@@JimmyGunXD556 Leathermans do the job? Cutting like this? Leathermans are good for cutting soft metals and other soft and thin materials but not more than that. No multitool can much a real tool. If you try to use any wire cutter as a bolt cutter, only thing you will achieve, is to destroy the teeth of the cutter and make it unusable. You must not be serius.
Dad: "Who the fck was in muh yard cutting muh God damned fence!"
Knipex the best
Thanks for saying knipex right bro.
Hi TheUrbanPrepper. What's your take on the "Draper" brand 18" 450mm bolt cutter? I'm pondering wether to chose this inexpensive cutter or the more expensive Knipex in your video. Usage would be to cut away my metal garden fence.
Thanks, I need them to cut my barbed wire fence.
Will these cut thru the concertina/razor wire you have pictured in the beginning of your video? How about 4 gauge hog wire?
That was a good video and yes the knipex mini bolt cutter can cut through many wires and nails like butter but I reckon that the bahco mini bolt cutter cuts with a slight more ease I own one of those and I tell you they have awesome cutting power and they are a bit more cheaper than the knipex but still are very good quality and they are made in Sweden I’ve use it for many years for cutting bits of metal and fencing wire when me and my father were fixing the fence around our property. They could easy save someone’s life as well in a situation if you had to cut a chain link fence they can cut through it like butter and how I know the bahco mini bolt cutter cuts a little bit easier than the knipex is because my dad has one and I’ve tried them both out the knipex is a bit more smoother with opening and closing but the bahco cuts a little bit stronger like with piano wire you can cut through 3.6mm with the knipex well the bahco you can cut up to 3.8mm thick piano wire. You should add me on facebook I’ve got a big tool box of tools 🛠 I’ve got kincrome tools sidchrome tools and many more my name is John Love Alloys
Hahaha, that is what I have, but I keep the VDE High Leverage Knipex and a geared (similar to the SOG powerlock) ones. They are phenomenal. Warm regards. DisabledPrepper :)
+DisabledPrepper Nice. I think Knipex products are fantastic.
Cool vide. Dad comes out and tell who cut my fence!!!!!
4:43 the jaws look jacked up from that already! My knipex pliers wrench broke at the cam (the part that surrounds the pin by the slider lock cracked in two and fell out), I need to contact them about it. Worried I'm buying into hype. My felco cutters also took a hit the first time I used them on light gauge metal. I'm not negligent in the least, I love my tools and buy for a lifetime, not for a few weeks... 😒
Another awesome video, and a valid point. Traversing an urban environment in an emergency situation is going to be tough, and a pair of cutters will certainly make it easier. What about the larger stuff though? A full size set is a bit beyond the weight limits of your standard b.o.b. What's your view on lock picks? a bit much for an EDC as could be seen as "going equipped" but for a bug out bag could be a nice addition (along with the skill to use them).
+Adam Bates I'm more worried about carrying lock picks due to legal reasons (felony offense unless you are a licensed lock smith). I haven't been able to justify the weight of a full size bolt cutters, although it would be cool to have "somewhere" in your preps. For lockpicks, I like the thought of being able to "make" them if needed then purchasing dedicated ones.
+TheUrbanPrepper Good point. Not technically illegal to carry here in the uk. Although if found when searched by then police, they would want a good reason, and would suspect intent if one couldn't be given. (Something known here as going equipped). I agree that we shouldn't break the laws with our preps, even if our intent is for emergency purposes only.
Been watching your videos for a long time and I just wanted to say thank you for making them as well as not getting political or anything crazy over the top. Seems like way too many preppers want to just rail against the government as much as they talk about the prep's themselves, if not more. I mean I get the mentality and everything but it gets old hearing the same stuff over and over from these people. You are one of the very few who does not get political and I really appreciate that. I am by no means pro-government but I am not anti-government either, I just appreciate the focus on preps, especially your focus on urban prepping as that too is my environment. Anyway just wanted to say thanks and keep making awesome vid's.
+skippy5403 Wow! Thank you SO much for the kind words. I really appreciate that. I strive to remain non-political in my CZcams videos and always keep in mind that people are watching from all around the world, not just in the United States. I totally agree with what you are saying regarding the anti-government rhetoric that is common in our genre. I try to treat CZcams like a first date: no talking about religion or politics. It's too polarizing for viewers. Prepping in general is more universal. Comments like yours really helps me keep up the motivation to continue cranking out new videos and always trying to raise my bar in terms of quality. Thanks for your support of my channel!
I have to stop watching your videos because they make me buy all the cool gear you review. All kidding aside you have a great channel and content. Thanks for sharing the knowledge and ideas.
+DogWalksMe LOL! Sorry about that. :)
I like the way you think.
Thanks a bunch!
Is that round piece plastic? How is the spring holding up?
Try using 2 Ampere power adaptor to charge that power bank. It'll reduce the time to get charged.
(it'll take About 10 hours to fully charge.)
Hi, why not the KNIPEX CoBolt S, Compact Bolt Cutter (7101160)? It's smaller and perfect for EDC.
would these work on dual strand barbed wire or would you need the bigger sized ones?
Great tool, but like most Seals I want a little C-4. To bad I was not in the Navy, dang!
+Randall Kelley Haha... Be careful!
For are kind of real emergency I'd want to have a decent size cutter, an 18 or 24 inch one that could actually cut some chain links or locks.
Problem is, that the 18 inch are heavy and take much space, while the small Knipex, are portable, fit in your pocket and work great!
lol cool great vids by the way!!!!
+Ken merry Thanks Ken!
The best pliers in world, knipex The best quality 💪
Having experience with both handle types, would you now recommend the comfort grip or regular for these mini cutters?
Is there a better option that is lighter weight than the Knipex for chain link fences?
How many holes could they cut in chain link fences before they become dull. Do they dull fast?
What about clipping locks? When necessary?
Can they cut locks???
Also you should try out the knipex 10 inch diagonal cutters they are very good as well they have nearly the same cutting power as the knipex mini bolt cutter with cutting hard wires but at the same time you can make clean cuts on softer wires like electrical wiring so you get a all around wire cutter see mini bolt cutters are a fantastic wire cutter for cutting fencing wire, nails, springs and piano wire but they not really meant for doing electrical wire cutting so they are still not really a replacement for diagonal cutters in your tool box. Now with most diagonal cutters they are only for cutting copper wiring and electrical wires but they will damage and wear a lot cutting the harder wires so that’s why you go with the knipex diagonal cutters they are the same steel like the mini bolt cutters but can do all around type of work and due to been 10 inches you have the cutting power like the mini bolt cutters on harder wires almost they can cut through chain link fences like butter as well I’ve done many cuts with all types of wire with it it’s got a 4.6mm cutting capacity so just a little less then the knipex mini bolt cutter that has 5.2mm thick but in urban areas the most common wire you will come across is 9 gage wire which is 3.6mm to 3.8mm thick so no problem I’ve also tested them out on a bit of chain link fence at my friends house and they cut like butter
Thanks for the recommendation, John! I love ALL Knipex products. I would love to have some Knipex 10 inch Diagonal Cutters in my tool bag to upgrade my Klein Pliers.
TheUrbanPrepper yeah knipex is good bahco is good, the hkp bolt cutters are good also and last of all the Hit bolt cutters are awesome and I’m not just talking about the mini bolt cutters their larger ones as well. in a toolbox it’s good to have a larger pair of good ones too like a 18 inch or 24 inch because you can take on 3/8 of a inch to 1/2 inch with those cutters I reckon go with the Hit red jaw bolt cutters with the larger ones they are made in Japan and they are awesome I’ve got a 36 inch pair of them and I cut through a 19mm thick steel bolt with them
Will these work with steel construction nails?
Will the 6” work ?