Verge P10 - Hydraulic Disc 451 Wheel Folding Road Bike Review
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- čas přidán 11. 06. 2017
- The most highly anticipated bike from Tern's new 451 Verge lineup, the Verge P10 packs a ton of value in one fast high performance folding bike! This bike is a great value bike for the price, featuring top quality components, hydraulic disc brakes, and a wide gear range to tackle all sorts of hills. For more information on the P10 click here: www.nycewheels.com/tern-foldi...
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Very fast and comfortable bike. Rides like a speedbike. Worth the money👍
You are telling me. I was keeping up with a guy on a road bike the other day. At the traffic stop he asked me how's that little bike so fast.
Just got it. Nice. No complaints. Highly recommend. Easy storage in trunk. Nice range gears.
Great product- worked perfectly, no issues.
I watch this video with great enthusiasm... Thanks...
This is the best folder on the planet for the money. Its fast and can take on hills that other bikes struggle on. Quality bike. Well made. Its better than anyother folder I've ever had. And I've had them all from a Brompton to several Dahons. Well done Tern.
I bought a Tern Link D8 back in 2013 and later in 2015 I added a BionX e-kit. I love my bike and adding the e-kit was a wise albeit not cheap expense that has me out and about on it more.
Watch the videos of the Verge 451 family. Though I wanted the x11 or p10 because of their higher end components and hydraulic disc brakes. it's excessively expensive so I'm going for the D9
Love my p10...best value in tern 451 wheel family in my opinion
aditya yuli Prasetya
Yeah those 451 wheels make a hell of defences don't it... I have the D9 but omg! I wanted that P10 so bad... The P10 looks alone the lines similar but a little more sportier... But I'm a happy owner of the D9 never the less, the coast of the P10 was just a tad bit in the higher coast bracket for me... I just thought I would vouch with you on the Tern Verge and it's 451 wheel set... It's great...
ClayDog MadMan 451 wheels feel more stable at the road...feel similar to my roadbike with more upright position...plan to change to ultegra r8000 crankset, bottom bracket and front derailer..i think i can reduce some weight from reguler FSA crankset already installed..for me my p10 not just for commuter but for touring too..
aditya yuli Prasetya
Hey bud, good to hear from ya.... So you're making that bold move with that ultegra R8000 modification I see...
So is it all in theory that you would get the particular performance you so desire by replacing FSA crankset that's installed already...
Not an actual fact that it would be a for sure quality difference now would it, I mean that's seem a bit of a bold gamble, not say that anything would go horribly wrong...
But I definitely want you to keep me in loop with this modification change you're making...
I plan on a slight, but not so bold modification with the D9... I'm replacing the stem neck with either the P10 or X11 version...
I need that shorter stem so I can have a lower arch in my bike riding... That's about the only changes I have thus far...
But hey man, good luck with the replacement change, and let me know how it works...
If there's by any chance I can upgrade to a better performance then I would like some pointers... So yeah sir keep me informed, thank you... And be well my man...
ClayDog MadMan i will keep you informed when i had made the changes..changing stem definitely can make huge difference in your riding position...good luck with your changes too Sir...
Im between Verge and Brompton... i dont need often trains etc...but just in case wonder if I can travel with verge...??
Is that a built-in rear light I can see under the seat?
Received my P10 yesterday I'm planning to ride it today. The one thing I can't get my head around after 40 years in engineering is why they didn't position to rubber strap mounting pin further forward so the strap tucks away tidily under the frame rather than sticking out because the cable lug is in the way, anybody could work that one out. If the simple things aren't designed properly then I wonder about other more complex parts like folding joints etc, time will tell.
Im between Verge and Brompton... i dont need often trains etc...but just in case wonder if I can travel with verge...??
My advice would be Verge, 20in wheels are better than 16's on the Brompton. The Derailleur gears on the Verge are so much better than Sturmey Archer on the Brompton. As the video shows, the Verge folds and if it had to be folded to get onto a train that would be no problem.
Nice video. I was first considering a Brompton but that light folding bike with hydraulic disc brake looks not bad at all. It is about the same price. Would it be possible to add fenders?
Absolutely. And a rack if you need it.
Seriously considering buying this bike. What I would like to know, is the front stem adjustable in height? Would it also accommodate a person that is smaller than average? Thanks for the review, very informative!
This bike can fit riders as small as 4'8". If you're a shorter person, the small adjustments you can make to the handlebar angle might be enough for a more upright position if that's what you're looking for. Tern bikes don't have adjustable stems typically, because they want to offer the best ride quality possible.
Yes, it has a Syntace VRO stem that adjusts for height and reach.
I assume if you removed the kick stand, replaced the post pump, and put a lighter saddle you could drop the overall weight by 2.5 pounds? Yes?
There is no post pump on this bike, but 2.5 lbs is a pretty significant amount of weight to try to reduce. The Kickstand and saddle would not make a huge difference.
where do you buy the tires 451 and tubes? Thanks
Hi, awesome review! I am actually considering getting one! I am wondering that I am 6'2", do I also need to get an extra long seat post and a taller handlebar? Another question is that, could I upgrade a road bike drop bar on this one? I kind of wanna make it look like a road bike! I will really appreciate your help! Thank you!
The stock seatpost should be able to accommodate your height, but if for any reason it's not quite enough, Tern does offer a telescopic seatpost which is perfect for taller folks like yourself.
Do you have it available for shipping to another country?
Im between Verge and Brompton... i dont need often trains etc...but just in case wonder if I can travel with verge...??
I DONT know am I to late for your answer but i had both Brompton and Verge only reason I give up on TERN is little bit crazy folding and traveling situation so i sold my VERGE X10 but performance wise ............ TERN is lightning year in front of Brompton in my opinion ... IF travel is your way of life go for BROMPTON if you like fun and cool rides TERN VERGE X11 I enjoyit or P10
Purchased my P10 February 2020. Love this bike and it handles very well. I ride a paved trail with some long grades with ease. Coming from a mid drive 20" 250w folder I had my doubts.
I couldn't be happier and the only flaw I can find is a rubber plug that sits on the top of the main hinge. Looks like an after thought to keep debris out of that area.
Popped out first ride and lost it.
I ride 100 miles a week and love the P10 more every time.
Im between Verge and Brompton... i dont need often trains etc...but just in case wonder if I can travel with verge...??
Someone stole my MTB bike SCOTT SCALE 760, so I am seriously considering buying folding-type. This one strongly attracts me, especially hydraulic brake on folding-type minivelo.
This bike is the real deal. Really great price for performance value, and you don't have to lock it up!
Same happened to me. I know this comment was from 2 years ago but, can you tell me which bike you end up getting and how was your experience? Thanks
is it good for someone who is 6.5 ft and how fast and comfortable is comparing to 29 inch bicycles. can you let me know, because I like how easy you can put it in a car.
You can purchase an extra long seat post, and taller handlebars if you need to fine tune your fit. This bike rides very well and can keep up with larger wheel'd bike's easily.
What kind of "taller handle bars"? Can you be a bit more specific...I am considering getting this but I am 6'4 so I'm a bit weary. For reference I have the original Pirate Ninja Eclipse X20 that I actually got from you guys and that bike has more than enough room for me.
to NYCE wheels: I'm on the fence between x11 and p10. What's the key differences in durability of the parts on the bikes/ performance gain? Would it be better to buy a p10 then upgrade to X11 specs or just bite the bullet and spend the extra $1k on the X11?
After buying all the upgrades you'd need to match the spec of the X11, you'd be spending more for the parts and labor to have a shop install them, and then be left with a solid component group that you wouldn't use. The X11 is certainly the higher performer and quite a bit lighter, but the P10 still has solid components. Just depends on how important lighter weight and speed is to you!
Thank you for the information after coming to the same conclusion doing a cost analysis of the parts on the X11 I decided to go with the X11.
Awesome! Hope you love it :)
I’m in the same situation at the moment too. So from what I gather the difference is only in term of weight and speed. Durability is the same? Speedwise is the difference significant? I’m definitely not going to be racing with it. What I like about the P10 is the seat with the porter saddle.
So... what did you buy? I'm on the fence too between P10 and X11. Does anyone know what the differences are exactly? And, by the way, what are the frame differences between X10 and X11? I'm also considering to grab an X10 used and put disc brake on it... what do you think about it?
How is this bike on gravel?
Could you please tell the the differences between tern verge d9 and p10? After all, verge p10 is way more expensive than verge d9.
We recommend watching both videos. We outline the different level of components on each model. The P10 has much nicer parts.
The main differences between the D9 and P10. Is the weight of the D9 is about 3lbs heavier (28LBS VS 25LBS) and it has 1 less gear. And it comes set with wider tyres with less aero wheels. Not the Schwalbe one racing tyres.
In Summary it's a slower heavier bike. Really the one to go with is the P10. It is the perfect bike for the money. Its £300 more expensive than the D9. But £1000 cheaper than the X11. And I cannot justify that price difference between the P10 and the X11. for essentially. 3lbs less weight. 22lbs vs 25lbs..And one more gear. Because essentially those are the only two major differences. You are paying nearly double the price for.
It's like people paying 5k for an ultra light carbon road bike. Weighing 14lbs. While the next guy might pay 2k for a 17.5lb carbon road bike.
In a professional riding arena the price difference could be justified. As that lighter bike would likely win the race for two evenly matched cyclists.
But in the everyday commuting world. Is it really that important to arrive at your destination in say 30 minutes instead of 32 minutes for the same effort. Thats how you have to look at it.
Gee how about the derailleur and shifters? Or is this a one speed bike?
Try watching the video... 0:45 and 4:50 both reference the group set.
shimano deore
bruh.......
Does this bike have the same gear range as the tern x11? Is it worth buying the x11 as opposed to getting p10…?
the x11 has 11 gears hence the name. What did you go for as I have the same dilemma?
The P10 is the best of the bunch. The X11 is overkill. Put a litepro 58 tooth ring on the P10 like I did on mine. And you will FLY. I've hits speeds close to 30mph on the flat with that set up. It's an amazing bike for £1200
Do you sell them in Mexico?
It is good for speed
Yes, this bike is most certainly fast!
Can the right pedal be replaced with a threaded pedal ??😅😊✨👍
*1:40** Any bike like this should come with hollowtech bottom bracket. Makes me cringe seeing bikes of this price with old square tapered bottom bracket.*
To bad you guys are out of business!