Andrew Lownie live - The Scandalous Exile Of The Duke And Duchess Of Windsor.
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- 11 December 1936. The King of England, Edward VIII, has given up his Crown, foregoing his duty for the love of Wallis Simpson, an American divorcée. Their courtship has been dogged by controversy and scandal, but with Edward’s abdication, they can live happily ever after.
But do they? Beginning his astonishing biography at the moment most turn away, bestselling historian Andrew Lownie reveals the dramatic lives of the Windsors post-abdication. This is a story of a Royal shut out by his family and forced into exile; of the Nazi attempts to recruit the Duke to their cause, and of why the Duke, as Governor of the Bahamas, tried to shut down the investigation into the murder of a close friend. It is a story of a couple obsessed with their status, financially exploiting their position, and manipulating the media to portray themselves as victims.
This first live audience event of the 2021 Isle of Wight Literary Festival was hosted in the Northwood House ballroom, with an introduction by IWLF Vice Patron Alan Titchmarsh.
You can purchase the book through the IWLF Blackwells Bookshop link here:-
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Just listened to the Mountbatten/MI5/Children 's home conspiracies. Very well explained and the mention of Brian Gemmel (sp?) And how badly he was treated when he 'whistled' is appalling, RIP. Thanks for this wonderful research and not giving up x
So nice to see an author speak in person and be asked interesting questions .
Great presentation by Andrew Lownie; I am a new follower and enjoy his insightful writing. Its a treat see him present.
His books are an excellent read.
Truth stranger than fiction every time. Thank you for your presentation.
Thanks for letting me know about it.
Fascinating. I've read a lot about this couple but I learned a lot from just this short talk. I wish I didn't have to wait 6 months until the Kindle version is released so I can read it.
Andrew is great educated well prepared and knowledgeable. Love his voice. Perfect he exposes this family for what they are Germanic
Very enlightening talk. I loved it. Amazing how corrupt and traitorous he was. I would love to be a fly on the wall once Andrew’s life story is laid bare which it will.
And PH and MM‼️
Thank for your presentations. I saw also another one. Very intresting. Thxx
fantastically well researched and highly readable book. Just read it.
So glad you enjoyed it. My book on Prince Andrew is out next year.
Very interesting. I learned a lot. Thanks
Wow, that was great. Thank you.
What sad lives. No one should ever be envious of the royal family. What a nightmare.
It's NOT SAD!! He deserved every single miserable day he had as a turncoat and traitor to his homeland!
Their sad lives were of their own making. The Kenneth Harris interview included the question why didn't you get a job?
Not a bad question for two healthy well educated, childless people with opportunities most of us can only dream of.
Why didn't either one of them ever get a job??
She said she would have enjoyed a career in advertising. He said he would have enjoyed doing something, but nothing in particular..
With their connections they could have run a philanthropic foundation. Vogue magazine would have hired her in a heartbeat as a fashion editor, he could have pursued a career in journalism, television or radio.
Instead, they devoted their lives to doing nothing.
save your pity. think of the poor masses who couldn't feed their children in that period. I know what I'd prefer.
@@MrDaiseymay well there are many ways to suffer and one of them is wickedness
Only if theres justice in a afterlife@@angelarasmussen1800
WOW, what an audience best questions I've ever heard.
I can’t wait to read it !
My parents were also taken in by the "Something must be done" comment.But of course, he didn't mean that HE was going to do anything!!
That was during the General strike, and it caused quite a caffuffel in Parliament
I just received the book today. Can't wait to read❤️🇨🇦
It's fascinating!
Riviting -exceptionally impressive - thank you so very much, will buy the book. I had read what I though were rumors so couldn't believe them, seems the rumors were true. Too much for one viewing, will view 2x and buy the book.
Thank you the truth is awful, millions where misled and fooled by The Firm and the people betrayed 😢 many died.
Very entertaining thank you
Thanks to Mr. Lownie for confirming what we thought we knew and filling in the gaps. Quite fascinating.
Marvelous presentation, grounded in extraordinary research.
I do hope the book appears in audiobook form.
Yes it's out in audio.
‘He saw a concentration camp’, ! ( now tell us that no one knew!)
Yes, but to be fair, the inhabitants were Germans, dressed in reasonable uniforms, good health, good weight, pretending to be inhabitants. But yes, there were a tiny few escapes, there were a few Allied military put into the camps temporarily. There were a few who risked their lives to sneak out info. There was at least one person who went into the camp, to report on actual experience - but politicians across the board, did not want to know.
But the same can be said for the Burma railway and the at rocities of the Japanese. Men rarely escaped but did. They begged for help for those men. Nothing - and most of those who escaped were then treated as trouble makers.
Truly appalling.
At that time they were not death camps, They started in 1941 to early 1942
@@stephenholmes1036 my father was a 17-20 yr. old US soldier and he said the soldiers around him did not know
Exactly
It seems Wallis took one for the team. I've read the book. Excellent. So is his book about The Mountbattens.
Given Edward was 7/8ths German, there should be little surprise he had split loyalties.
iT'S ON RECORD, EVEN VICTORIA FEALT SHE WAS FAR MORE GERMAN, AND SPOKE IT OFTEN, AND FLUENTLY.
@@MrDaiseymay QEII was the first British monarch since the Stuarts to be 1/2 British (thru her Scots mother). Charles III is only 1/4 British, though his sons are 3/4 and grandchildren 7/8 British.
Queen Mary never spoke English either!
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Fascinating book; well worth reading, especially if you listened to this talk. I know from my late mother that Edward VIII was very popular as a young man (before he became King). If she had known the truth about him she would have been HORRIFIED!
I'm in my 80's, and when i was young, my parents held the same view of Edward, and often mentioned his tour of South Wales Coal Mining Villages, during the 1926 National general strike. Reports claimed that he was apalled by the poverty, and stated that''Something must be done about this '' This remark was all over the Newspaper's the next day, and caused a political storm in Parliament. This simple off the cuff remark, endeared him to the working Class millions, thinking that something WILL--be done now. Of course, nothing changed.
As I have just said, it didn't mean HE was going to do anything, or see that it was done!!
It is all for show. More horrific than is starting to unravel. Public prob wouldn't be able to handle it. @@MrDaiseymay
@@MrDaiseymayYes, my parents remarked upon that, too. He did nothing. My mother always reckoned that Wallis wanted to be queen. Now we know that she didn't want to marry David after all.
@@MrDaiseymaythe unemployed were sent off to war.
This man has been a shinning light in the dark tunnels of coverups.
I listened to the audio book. Loved it . Are these photos in the book?
Out of everything I've read about them you are the first I've heard that has talked about their connection with Scotty Bowers.. I was truly surprised that you mentioned it.
I don't understand why everyone has tried to make them sound as if all they were was sad lovers that the monerchy wouldn't allow to be together. I'm an American and am very happy the UK missed a bullet in not having Edward as king.
In a German interview the Duke of Windsor gave, in German, he was most insistent that he was not living in exile because he was free to return to England whenever he so wished.
Wallis should have called the King's bluff.
How Churchill managed through the was is a miracle!
What a great talk/book/research. The parallels with a 'today' are very arresting. G Ire
What an amazing man so so clever how could he remember all that wow enjoyed that very much
I find it very interesting that accounts of Wallis’ character differ vastly from author to author…it is truly perplexing. I would love to know the real story. I enjoyed Anna Pasternak’s book…but she painted her in too positive a light it seemed…faultless almost, compared to the rest. It is hard to know what to believe.
There's a book called
" The heart has its reasons " written by Wallis in 1956 .Iam reading it now and it's given a good insight so far 😊 as I've read of it .
I’ve read a lot about her. There’s a lot that’s never mentioned but documented. Her first husband said divorce was his fault and she was the finest woman he knew. Also she was very close to her extended family. She took her Aunt on the famous Nahlins cruise. She met Edward through Thelma Furness but she met Thelma bc she was good friends with Thelma’s older sister from her California days. So she maintained relationships over long period of time. She’s been demonized and definitely not perfect but a woman of her time. Her uncle controlled het with money so of course she sought financial freedom. She was self absorbed for sure but so was he.
@@82566 Yes, but The Heart is Wallis' PR story.
It wasn't going to say I am a vain, silly woman. I have no interests but holidays, clothes, jewels, etc. Let alone, I loa the Je ws
Anna Pasternak is embarrassingly besotted. She may have have found evidence she did not want to marry, but she was a vain, shallow woman, obsessed with clothes and jewels, freebies, and it appears she took on all the political views of the men she was with. Her whole morality bent for her own financial and marital interests.
As to being secretly, sadly in love with Ernest, still...
I think she told ALL her men they were her true love. She even told Herman's last wife he was her true love - but she said the same of at least 2 other men. I think she did that to encourage them all to protect her reputation and to feel that if she asked anything of them, they would agree.
An absolute user - but so foul, why would anyone care?
WHAT DO YOU WANT---TO BELEIVE ?
My grandmother and Wallis Simpson had mutual acquaintances and Wallis was a woman of ill repute whom "nobody would want marrying into their family."
The interview Kenneth Harris did revealed both the Duke and Duchess to be devoid of intellect. The answers they gave to various questions were vacuous. They were talking, but they never said anything. I thought some of the answers were funny: what do you think of young people today "they're having a lot of fun," why didn't you have a job "I don't know," on the loneliness of the elderly "there's always a seat for an extra man at a dinner party"
on their experience in the Bahamas "the RAF gave me a silver box,"
The full interview goes on and on and on until you realize the two of them have nothing of interest to say
I found their interview with Harris to be both entertaining and charming. They both possessed real class, style, and dignity. Wallis when asked what she thought of the mini-skirt: "Well you certainly know what you're getting."
@@warrenpaine they couldn't answer the question "why didn't you get a job?"
She would have liked to have an advertising agency, but couldn't explain why she didn't.
He could have done "something," but could not explain why he didn't. He could have headed up a charitable foundation or gone into journalism or broadcasting, but he didn't do anything! They said they wanted children, but they adopted pugs instead of babies.
They were wealthy, well-educated people who never did anything. Europe was devastated by WWII and needed everybody to pitch in and rebuild. And those two did nothing
@@abeal49 He served as British colonial governor of the Bahamas during WWII.
@@warrenpaine So what? It was a posting intended to keep him out of England, Europe, and the US.
@@warrenpaineunder duress.
So much respect for this man and what he is doing and what it has cost him
I have to admit, if I was British and either lived thru the horrible nightly bombing of London or lost lloved ones....I'd be spitting mad at this traitorous king in exile( thank God that he DID abdicate or the Brita would be under German rule!!
You are SO right!
But the general public didn't know. They thought him unbelievably romantic.
Is king George V Maybe lot of things A Is a bad father a bully Not very clever But you can't give him credit for one thing he knew his son David better than anybody could ever imagine He
Why was a marriage not arranged for David? His siblings all had arranged marriages, as were his parents'.
It wasn't scandalous. It was perfect. Both of the old creeps were exiled. Time for a celebration!
Just curious as to why Thelma Furness was not mentioned. She was David’s mistress directly before Wallis.
Anyone can say anything about a dead person.
Saville is dead.. Epstein is dead. Truth is coming.. Buckle up.
Interesting title given KCIII scandalous life that continues with disturbing headlines weekly.
Even the royal corgi’s would have been having kittens 😺
Take heart Andrew if no one wants to touch your story.…. Could it be because they are still afraid of the proverbial Tower
Very big difference between Harry and his grand Uncle. Surprised to hear this historian attempt to compare the two couples.
I think he was referring more to personalities than behaviors
Not me...they're 2 peas in a pod
Both grifters
They're probably both in the audience...
Brilliant
It all makes perfect sense. I sent you an email. Glad I could help with your research and I will buy the book just to see what happened with my Grandmother, Hildegarde. Best to you.
Thanks for your help. Still chasing that story.
@@andrewlownie2033 Enjoyed your talk.
@@andrewlownie2033 Do you know who was responsible for killing all the beautiful trees around the Chateau de Cande?
Should be an executionable offence.
@@georgielancaster1356 Afraid I don't.
It was deliberately kept out of the press bc the King was popular to his subjects.
46:26 you could be describing what's happening today
Thank you for your presentation. We know why they decide to destroy records ? Other countries have their own intelligence gathering organizations which is in their archives and beyond reach. Thank you for getting there first.
The Germans are not that stupid it was self evident that they could just go around the Maginot Line
Yes but they didn't have the details which the Duke supplied.
Freda Dudley Ward was one month younger than the Duke! Get your facts right Lownie
Abously his facts are not correct.
Randolph Churchill was a foul alcoholic. Doesn't matter which one, until the one after the wedding picture Randolph, who would be too young for me to know anything.
They were both rediculous. Could you imagine if he had been king. There would be no England today it would have been totally bombed.
There is documentation he went with Hitler to view the building/principles of concentration camps. But hey Lord Mountbatten.. Prince Phillip Prince Andrew Jimmy Saville pots and kettles
I had seen the documentary based on the book on one of the history channels in the US. I had first read about the DOW back in 1972 and seen movies and documentaries like for example one starred Faye Dunaway as the DOW and another starring Edward Fox as the DOW. I wonder if Lady Furness the aunt of Gloria Vanderbilt regrets introducing Wallis to the POW? Also,back in 1948 when George VI got sick the DOW tried to get back on the thrown. He loved to reign but,won’t do the work.
Sounds like Harry and his wife
Connection made by Author too
Almost a reincarnation
They are much worse.
I love revisionist history. It keeps the world spinning around
Tried to keep the uk out of ww2
I think Andrew should write 'Traitor Prince' , about Prince Harry! So many parallels.
Not coincidence.
. 💯 german 100%
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Regarding your mockery of claims about Wallis's taste: If you look at home décor magazine articles from the 1930s & 40s, you'll see that the aesthetic preferences & fashions were very different from now, just as those 80 years in the future will be. Wallis was indeed considered to have fine taste, particularly in clothing, but also in jewelry, furnishings, food & refreshments at her (dinner) parties, the chefs she hired, even her selection of guests invited to a given event.
There is no way that her life could have been properly researched without coming across this information, so your comment shows ignorance of her times and small-minded meanness of spirit. It makes me believe your books are most likely salacious hatchet jobs, not the frank and revelatory but even-handed works most of us wish to read.
So well said !!!
@@janetsproviere3627 Thank you.
Have you read the book?
@@brummiejojo I did and Abously hated it !! His facts are at best to please a nosy public and make money .His historical facts from chapter one are miss leading and are not all factual.
The author has an irritating habit of mumbling when he speaks.
Flippant and facile.
Wow ! Lots of hate, jealous, and uneducated speeches here about Wallis and Edward ! Let's open your mind, this is the year of 2024 !
Compared to Charles & Camilla and Harry & Meghan in 2024, Edward & Wallis are the angels and innocents !
Not impressed by the book and presentation. The comparison to Harry and Meghan is totally unfair, unjust and uncalled for. This 'historian' should do better 😮
Oh they get worse than this. They are all snakes with titles. Wait and see.
What a horrible man. All his book is innuendo. Many other books on the Windsors. Read them and form your own opinion.
You are so right! A lot of other books include some of these rumors (which this author based his entire book on) and state them as false, lies, untrue and just nasty gossip. It’s easy to scandalize and make money on dead people who haven’t got any relatives on their own alive to can defend them (and sue this author).
The truth hurts dearie......High time these leeches were all waved bye bye ....
@@robingale100 The tragic thing is that it wasn’t the truth but 90% speculations without evidence and simple lies
@@Line-hz9zh the cat burglar and the stolen jewellery....that wasn't a lie....
@@Line-hz9zh your obviously a brainwashed sycophant
I don't believe this man. He is selling half-truths, lies, half-lies and exaggerations to write and sell a book.
the author is telling the truth--various other authors have revealed bits and pieces of this.
Read the book. I'm reading it now and almost every paragraph has a footnote. All verified. If you don't like the truth that's another story.
Always convenient to write a vicious hit piece AFTER the subjects are both deceased and can't sue for defamation.
By that logic, critical books could never be written about deceased persons, which is ludicrous.
Absurd, provincial sentimentality evident in this comment thread.
If he was involved w the Nazis and he was such a crook why was he never tried? I don’t believe a lot of this. The display of hate that is distilled is amazing
What would you believe?
Propaganda worked back then. Its over now. Truth can be told.
The association is well documented and photographed. Try getting you information from a few different sources. There will be corroboration.
I'd have thought that was obvious. Trying him as a traitor would've brought the whole monarchy down. I don't think war weary Britain would've survived that. The 'establishment' covered it up.
After listening to your vile interview on GB news I must say I began to doubt everything that come out of your mouth. I was shocked to hear how liberal you were with unchecked comments half-time truths and personal opinion. I think you should market your books as a work of fiction as you let yourself down the vile comments about Harry and Megan. Regardless of what anyone think, if your are marketing yourself as an historian you should stick to what you can prove.
Andrew substantiates his research throughout. How can you be so disgruntled with truth?
The truth often bites, Norma. Your own remarks are not grounded in facts and in historical context. As for the Sussexes, they are irrelevant, with fathers on either side cruelly disabused. That one father is a king throws more shade on befuddled and vapid PH.
Truth hurts. More coming. They're German Jews and hate us Brits. EU was set up by these Nazis.
@@peterellis1371 Charles Higham's books are not a great secondary source, for starters.
did you even bother to watch this video??!!
I thought Ronald Reagan died!
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