Derivative of Exponential Function (e^x) From First Principles

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  • čas přidán 9. 09. 2024

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  • @AlongCameAirxD
    @AlongCameAirxD Před 2 lety +191

    This is the only video I found that solved this problem and that limit without using the circular logic of L'Hopital's rule. You are the only one that showed that limit to truly be 1. Earned a like from me.

    • @lukewarm7465
      @lukewarm7465 Před 2 lety +2

      Same here

    • @agytjax
      @agytjax Před rokem +1

      @@lukewarm7465
      He could have avoided the complicated route of proving using natural log (ln). Here is the proof :
      We have e^x.Lim(h->0){(e^h - 1)/h} --- (1)
      We know that e=Lim(h->0){(1+h)^(1/h)}
      Substituting the value of 'e' in (1) above, we get :
      => e^x.Lim(h->0){([1+h]^(h*1/h) - 1)/h}
      => e^x.Lim(h->0){([1+h]^(1) - 1)/h}
      => e^x.Lim(h->0){(1+h-1)/h}
      => e^x.Lim(h->0){(h)/h}
      => e^x.Lim(h->0){1}
      => e^x

    • @sphakamisozondi
      @sphakamisozondi Před 6 měsíci

      Sane here. This is a satisfying explaination to this problem

    • @boguslawszostak1784
      @boguslawszostak1784 Před 4 měsíci

      You don't have this problem if you DEFINE ln(x) as the integral from 1 to x of 1/u du, and the function e^x as its inverse function.

    • @spudhead169
      @spudhead169 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Unfortunately it's still kind of circular. d/dx e^x = e^x is itself a definition of e, in that e is the only value of n that satisfies d/dx n^x = n^x . You cannot prove a definition, if you could you wouldn't need it to be a definition. Trying to prove it will always result in a circular argument with a derivative because such a proof requires the use of the definition of e in some form, and since all definitions are equivalent, using the definition of e is equivalent to using the derivative definition and thus circular.

  • @nadineabusaleh9401
    @nadineabusaleh9401 Před 7 měsíci +11

    The way he looks at maths as it is magic and charm gave we a really beautiful vibes , i have never seen a teacher that is calm and has this clarity before . I hope he continues .

  • @emmanuelmasemola1014
    @emmanuelmasemola1014 Před 2 lety +39

    Very sincere, very clear, I wish we were together during my university days, these are the kind of channels that deserve subscription, you don't need to tell us to subscribe , we have fallen inlove with your content.

  • @AcryllixGD
    @AcryllixGD Před 2 lety +43

    Honestly one of the best videos ive ever watched! Im an a level student in the uk learning about calculus and this video made it so clear as to why this was the case! Really good video!

  • @xebby9
    @xebby9 Před 2 lety +9

    The BEST explanation I've watched about this derivative

  • @Einstein.Albert-w8g
    @Einstein.Albert-w8g Před 10 měsíci +6

    man you have a beautyful handwrigting

  • @hiderr6805
    @hiderr6805 Před rokem +11

    You may want to substitute (e^h - 1) with (1/n) instead of n. This way you would get easily to the most commonly known definition of e, that is lim n->inf (1+1/n)^n instead of (1+n)^(1/n)

    • @PrimeNewtons
      @PrimeNewtons  Před rokem +5

      Thank you. I will investigate that option

  • @Katutowavicle
    @Katutowavicle Před rokem +8

    I wanna thank not just for the great explanation but the positive energy you put in the video

  • @robread-jones3698
    @robread-jones3698 Před rokem +6

    We all know there is something inherently beautiful in mathematics, but that explanation with its cool, calm, clear and entertaining delivery really emphasized that point. It was a joy to watch.
    A video has to be something particularly special to get both a like and a subscribe out of a grumpy old git like me. Job done here. I'm looking forward to watching more of your videos.

  • @MrDipanmehta
    @MrDipanmehta Před 2 lety +5

    This is the most critical video - unlike so many other dealing with this topic. However, this doesn't comes on top of youtube search try adding some keywords or description mentioning "exponential function". This is amaziing video thank you.

    • @PrimeNewtons
      @PrimeNewtons  Před 2 lety +2

      Thank you for the suggestion, I have made some changes.

  • @GicaKontraglobalismului
    @GicaKontraglobalismului Před rokem +3

    Great! I have always calculated the derivative of the exponential using the derivative of its inverse, that is, of the logarithm, and always thought the direct calculation impossible.
    In Romanian Language "to learn" is said "a invata" which is formed of words "in" and "viata" which mean "in" and "life" ; in other words, the Romanian the word for "to learn" actually means "to be alive" which is exactly what you said in the end. Your mind already thinks Romanian! I also appreciate your style, the blackboard, the chalk, and last but not least your calligraphy!

    • @PrimeNewtons
      @PrimeNewtons  Před rokem +2

      Wow! This is inspirational! Thank you for your comment.

  • @sphakamisozondi
    @sphakamisozondi Před 6 měsíci +1

    I have never, not even in my maths books I used at university, have someone explained why, _lim_ _h -->0_ *{exp(h) - 1}/h =1*
    Well done sir. Much love from South Africa

  • @obadamh7030
    @obadamh7030 Před 2 lety +1

    I finally found someone to clear it up simply, I really owe you

  • @kopisusu3781
    @kopisusu3781 Před 2 lety +5

    this really cleared things up for me. thankyou very much!

  • @renesperb
    @renesperb Před rokem +2

    A nice and clear presentation,and , in contrast to many other videos of this type , a good handwriting , making it easy to read.

  • @donald_w
    @donald_w Před 3 měsíci

    You are an incredible teacher! Thank you for explaining this so well and not overlooking the small details 😊

  • @mohamedsaith4532
    @mohamedsaith4532 Před 2 lety +3

    Wow!!!!!!
    How amazing explanation 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @labibbidabibbadum
    @labibbidabibbadum Před rokem +1

    Liked, subscribed, coming back. I’m helping my teenage son who is just starting with calculus. This kind of clarity in teaching is wonderful.

  • @MrWildcathendrix
    @MrWildcathendrix Před 9 měsíci

    I've just studied this demonstration in my Math 1 book for my first year of Computer Science Engineering university course, it's exactly the same as you write, but the way that you explain it makes math much more fun!

  • @mihaipuiu6231
    @mihaipuiu6231 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Sir,you are a good teacher.Why? Because your writing is very nice, you work on a clean table, but very important...your proof is very clear and you explain like MICHAEL PENN. Thanks, SIR.

  • @debjanimukherjee502
    @debjanimukherjee502 Před 8 měsíci

    Reminiscing my college days with you and enjoying my retired life ❤

  • @SanePerson1
    @SanePerson1 Před 10 měsíci

    A nice side result from this extremely nice demonstration is hidden in the penultimate line. I'm so accustomed to taking the derivative of e^x, that I forget what constant I should use when taking the derivative of a^x. But the entire derivation you've given doesn't change for that case, EXCEPT that in the middle panel, one should use the base-a log instead of the natural log (ln). so you get (d/dx)a^x = [1/log(e)]a^x, where the log is the base-a log. In particular, this recovers the conversion factor for base-10 log and natural log: 1/log(e) ≈ 2.303.

  • @goldCrystalhaze
    @goldCrystalhaze Před rokem +2

    I saw an explanation of the derivative of a^x in a lecture, which I never actually understood and I was going to search for a better explanation these days. Your video came by chance and it is fantastic! Thank you so much! I have subscribed to your channel.

    • @No-cg9kj
      @No-cg9kj Před 8 měsíci +1

      e and ln love to sneak their way into everything lol. If you haven't got to calc 2 yet be prepared to see them a lot haha.

  • @Ray1tx
    @Ray1tx Před 6 měsíci +2

    Wonderful explanation!

  • @averagehooligan620
    @averagehooligan620 Před rokem +1

    Mindblown. Been searching for this.

  • @user-dp9yn7zf4l
    @user-dp9yn7zf4l Před 9 měsíci +1

    Amazing video, first time learn the derivative of e^x this well! I have a question, when we taking the reciprocal, do we need to show that the denominator is not zero (at about 7:45)?

  • @catnip2906
    @catnip2906 Před 2 měsíci

    Dear Sir. Thanks for the clarity. I was blind but now I see.

  • @agytjax
    @agytjax Před rokem +4

    From 4:35 onwards, you could have avoided the complicated route of proving using natural log (ln). Here is the proof :
    We have e^x.Lim(h->0){(e^h - 1)/h} --- (1)
    We know that e=Lim(h->0){(1+h)^(1/h)}
    Substituting the value of 'e' in (1) above, we get :
    => e^x.Lim(h->0){([1+h]^(h*1/h) - 1)/h}
    => e^x.Lim(h->0){([1+h]^(1) - 1)/h}
    => e^x.Lim(h->0){(1+h-1)/h}
    => e^x.Lim(h->0){(h)/h}
    => e^x.Lim(h->0){1}
    => e^x
    Q.E.D

  • @kiturundee9077
    @kiturundee9077 Před 2 lety +3

    Beautiful video. Love the energy 😀

  • @tomvitale3555
    @tomvitale3555 Před 6 měsíci

    We've been saved from destruction and made the world a better place to live! 😁 Excellent description!

  • @petersamantharadisich6095

    it might be easier to simply start with that definition of e and expand in a power series
    e^h = lim_n (1+h+h^2/2+...+h^n/n!)
    then subtract 1
    e^h - 1 = lim_n (h+h^2/2+...h^n/n!)
    then divide by h
    (e^h - 1)/h= lim_n (h+h^2/2+...h^n/n!)/h
    = lim_n (1+h+h^2/2+...h^(n-1)/n!)
    then take limit with respect to h (limit is 1 and doesn't depend on n), then with respect to n (still 1)

    • @PrimeNewtons
      @PrimeNewtons  Před rokem

      I agree. I wanted to stay within knowledge from precalculus and highlight that manipulation I showed.

    • @znhait
      @znhait Před rokem +2

      This is circular reasoning. You just gave the Maclaurin series for e^x, which is obtained by finding the derivative of e^x. If someone is finding derivatives from first principle, the assumption is that no result that includes the derivative--other than the definition itself--can be used.

    • @petersamantharadisich6095
      @petersamantharadisich6095 Před rokem

      @@znhait I don't think it is, as you can derive the power series by expanding the definition used in the video...
      e^x=lim_n(1+x/n)^n
      = lim_n{sum_j (x/n)^j × n!/[j!(n-j)!]}
      = lim_n{sum_j x^j/j! × [n/n][(n-1)/n]...[(n-j+1)/n]}
      = lim_n{sum_j x^j/j! × [1][1-1/n]...[1-(j-1)/n]}
      = lim_n {sum_j x^j/j!} × lim_n{[1][1-1/n]...[1-(j-1)/n]}
      = lim_n {sum_j x^j/j!}
      The above does not refer to derivatives of e^x, there is no need to use circular reasoning to get the result this way.

  • @kingbeauregard
    @kingbeauregard Před rokem +1

    Oooh, I like your style! You're really clear, and your enthusiasm is infectious. Subscribed!

  • @hiderr6805
    @hiderr6805 Před rokem +2

    What an amazing video! Thank you so much! So cool, the only source I found using only elementary methods...

  • @idolgin776
    @idolgin776 Před rokem

    It was really cool when the exponential definition of e popped out. Never seen such manipulation before!

  • @aintgonnatakeit
    @aintgonnatakeit Před rokem +1

    Great video!! Thanks so much for explaining the full limit. I couldn't find an explanation of the last part until I found you! Instant sub :D

  • @muwememwanza3815
    @muwememwanza3815 Před 2 lety +2

    Great video just learned something new

  • @tcmxiyw
    @tcmxiyw Před 8 měsíci +3

    I think your explanations are beautiful, but when you say something like “the limit of the function is the function of the limit”, please justify it by saying “because the function is continuous”. It is interesting to note that the derivative of f(x)=e^x at any point can be found once we know f’(0).

  • @aram5642
    @aram5642 Před rokem +1

    Greatest blackboard and chalk I have seen of all math videos here. The lighting would benefit from some angle or diffusor though ;)

    • @PrimeNewtons
      @PrimeNewtons  Před rokem

      Thank you. I am still trying to find the pest lighting conditions for videos. I hope the newer videos are better lit in your opinion.

  • @invisiblelemur
    @invisiblelemur Před 10 měsíci

    Beautiful. Thank you for getting me as excited about this as you are!!

  • @barthennin6088
    @barthennin6088 Před rokem +3

    It appears to be a circular argument. ln(e^x)=x and e^ln(x)=x

    • @PrimeNewtons
      @PrimeNewtons  Před rokem +2

      Lol. That's what a lawyer would say. In mathematics, they are called inverse functions.

  • @binhql
    @binhql Před rokem +2

    Great! You've just made by day :D Appreciate it a lot.

  • @souverain1er
    @souverain1er Před 9 měsíci

    Great explanation. Love it. Never learnt this in calculus

  • @zorxey3189
    @zorxey3189 Před rokem +1

    Incredibly helpful video, thanks

  • @Rob1066-
    @Rob1066- Před rokem +1

    Great pure math explanations!

  • @anonymous-ui7il
    @anonymous-ui7il Před rokem +1

    I am binging on your videos, it has helped me a lot with calculus.

    • @PrimeNewtons
      @PrimeNewtons  Před rokem

      I'm glad you find them helpful. Thanks for the feedback.

  • @sakangbenjamin
    @sakangbenjamin Před 5 měsíci

    Always on point sir God bless for your impactation

  • @tfdtfdtfd
    @tfdtfdtfd Před 2 lety +2

    Excellent video avoiding the unelegant definition of e as the "eh-1" limit......we should probably add a few technical details about the existence of limits when you split into products, ratios, swap order of ln and lim.....these generally hold true here due to continuity

    • @PrimeNewtons
      @PrimeNewtons  Před 2 lety +3

      Thanks for the extra notes. Appreciated!

  • @user-cb5oh8rm2i
    @user-cb5oh8rm2i Před 2 lety +2

    It is so helpful

  • @patelharsh5133
    @patelharsh5133 Před 2 lety +3

    Thanks sir

  • @theeligator8728
    @theeligator8728 Před 5 měsíci

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  • @randalltucker9343
    @randalltucker9343 Před rokem +1

    Very nicely done, sir! Great video!

  • @K-drama-LegendKing
    @K-drama-LegendKing Před 2 lety +2

    thanks for not using circular logic this makes so much sense the video is amazing, i would love to check your other videos although i know the the derivatives but the way you explained this one im excited to see the other derivatives

  • @icafe36485
    @icafe36485 Před 2 lety +2

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  • @tafadzwachigumbu4276
    @tafadzwachigumbu4276 Před rokem +1

    This is a very good presentation. Thank you sir.

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    @punditgi Před rokem +2

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    @kemumawhitney5439 Před 2 lety +1

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    @masoudhabibi700 Před rokem +1

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    @shcottam Před rokem +1

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  • @Bob-sq7ev
    @Bob-sq7ev Před 5 měsíci

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    @user-mb5nz1dt7l Před 4 měsíci

    Bravo. Perfect.

  • @okeuwechue9238
    @okeuwechue9238 Před 5 měsíci

    Great explanation. Thnx.
    An alternative explanation would also be expressing the natural exponential function as a Taylor series expansion and then differentiating each individual term to show that the resultant expression is the same as the original series

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    @Aferz Před rokem +1

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    @JulesMoyaert_photo Před 9 měsíci

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    @durjoysaha2896 Před 3 měsíci

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    @nemo5619 Před 11 měsíci

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    @the_n_ecromancer Před 5 měsíci

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  • @HelloBillyyu
    @HelloBillyyu Před 23 dny

    Hi I have just watched the video. Great work! Many thanks. Can I explore another approach here? We could find the Maclaurin series of e^h and it is be 1 + h + h^2 / 2 … then (e^h - 1) / h = 1 + h^3/2 + … then the limit of this is 1 if h goes to 0. This method is generally applicable to many ‘nasty’ limit calculations. Happy to chat. Cheers!

    • @PrimeNewtons
      @PrimeNewtons  Před 23 dny +1

      Yes, that's an option. However, this video was to highlight first principles.

  • @12388696
    @12388696 Před rokem +1

    Well done

  • @sergiolucas38
    @sergiolucas38 Před rokem +1

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  • @znhait
    @znhait Před rokem +1

    This is excellent work. I'm wondering if there isn't an easier way...or just a more obvious to come up with this limit. Otherwise, the definition of e could have been used a lot earlier.

  • @geraldomelo2751
    @geraldomelo2751 Před 8 měsíci

    The l'hopital theorem can also be applied.

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  • @komalshah1535
    @komalshah1535 Před 10 měsíci

    Fantastic sir!

  • @Rayglobster
    @Rayglobster Před rokem +1

    This is perfect

  • @_cran
    @_cran Před 8 měsíci

    I know you mostly do calc but can you make a video about fourier series/transform-inverse transform and a video about laplace transform-inverse transform? It'd be pretty educating I think since I just know the logic of it's graph I know it's formula but I don't understand how or why it works to just integrate something with e^-ikx then re-integrate it with e^ikx shapes the function in a different way

  • @Pauladam2216
    @Pauladam2216 Před 2 lety +2

    Nice

  • @CarolineSikamoi-rh7iv
    @CarolineSikamoi-rh7iv Před rokem +1

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  • @ukidding
    @ukidding Před 8 měsíci +1

    you have v nice writing

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    @user-uw7oi7xi7g Před 8 měsíci

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    @ThenSaidHeUntoThem Před 2 lety +1

    Coool!

  • @paulwood3460
    @paulwood3460 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Excellent proof. 👏👏👏👍👍 just one criticism..before starting the the proof of derivative e^x just state the fact that (lim n->0 (1+n)^1/n) = e
    Mathematics is simply wonderful.

    • @robertveith6383
      @robertveith6383 Před 2 měsíci

      The exponent, 1/n, must be inside grouping symbols: (1 + n)^(1/n)

    • @paulwood3460
      @paulwood3460 Před 2 měsíci

      @@robertveith6383 surely you mean (1+n)^1/n 😀

  • @JessicaShaw-ym4vc
    @JessicaShaw-ym4vc Před 7 měsíci

    Hi! where does the definition of e in terms of n come from? thank you. your video was great :)

  • @hypothesisnyc916
    @hypothesisnyc916 Před 2 lety +3

    Your teaching style is great but it bugs me that you're using implication symbols as though they are equal signs. For students to know the difference between "equals" and "implies" makes a big difference in their understanding of proofs.

    • @PrimeNewtons
      @PrimeNewtons  Před 2 lety +1

      I completely agree. I promise to never do that again. Could you suggest a replacement for doing my transition without using the implication symbol.

  • @mazenzidieh
    @mazenzidieh Před 8 měsíci

    Thanks alot

  • @shivankargupta6675
    @shivankargupta6675 Před rokem +1

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  • @dr.rahulgupta7573
    @dr.rahulgupta7573 Před rokem +2

    Sir. Can we use the definition of e^h to simplify ( e^h --1)/h and then take the limit ?

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    @reddottgamer3047 Před 2 lety +3

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  • @yigitrefikguzelses291
    @yigitrefikguzelses291 Před rokem +1

    When we are dealing with lim n->0 1/(ln(1+n)^(1/n) isn't this expression undefined because we have 1/n in the expression. I will be so happy if you can help me

    • @PrimeNewtons
      @PrimeNewtons  Před rokem +3

      n is not 0 yet. We are just approaching 0. So the function is not undefined and you should not plug in zero into the function because then it will be erratic. Try sketching that in desmos and see what happens as you approach zero. 😉

    • @yigitrefikguzelses291
      @yigitrefikguzelses291 Před rokem

      @@PrimeNewtons yeah its say approxirametly 2.718 so it's e but aren't we getting different result while approching from negative infinity,(by the way thank you for your respond)

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    @user-it6rm7cx6x Před 4 měsíci

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  • @user-wl4nd7ic1s
    @user-wl4nd7ic1s Před měsícem

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  • @kaboflotv6455
    @kaboflotv6455 Před rokem +1

    What about y=sin(×+1) from first differentiation??kindly asking

    • @PrimeNewtons
      @PrimeNewtons  Před rokem

      I have to a video for sin x. Use the same idea.

    • @PrimeNewtons
      @PrimeNewtons  Před rokem

      Same exact process. You'll get cos(x+1)

  • @anestismoutafidis4575
    @anestismoutafidis4575 Před 8 měsíci

    It stays as it is= e^x, except for x we put numbers ( N○ - C)

  • @petechen794
    @petechen794 Před 9 měsíci

    It's not difficult. You may use the definition of derivative to do it. You may also do it by using ln .

  • @sochegeorge7962
    @sochegeorge7962 Před 11 měsíci

    Can someone please explain the move at 9:32

    • @sochegeorge7962
      @sochegeorge7962 Před 11 měsíci

      Should have added if n = 23, (1/23)*ln(24) is NOT equal to Ln(24)^(1/23)

  • @justinnwachukwu2054
    @justinnwachukwu2054 Před rokem +1

    Write your number on the board. I appreciated your teaching style

    • @PrimeNewtons
      @PrimeNewtons  Před rokem +1

      My guy, I no fit write my number for blackboard na! Wetin be dat?

  • @fardowsakhalif6669
    @fardowsakhalif6669 Před rokem +2

    M.Allah

  • @aftabahmed7018
    @aftabahmed7018 Před 2 dny +1

    will smith teaches maths

  • @clemensvorbauer1183
    @clemensvorbauer1183 Před 9 měsíci

    you could have derived the rule of differentiating x^n from first principles easily, and than differentiate the definition of the exp-function, the power-series….

  • @Joep1209
    @Joep1209 Před 10 měsíci

    So much work just for the answer to be e^x , lol