SA6 MK2 or P8? Which one is considered better between the two? Which do you prefer. Can the SA6 MK2 be EQ’d to bring the vocals forward if needed? Thanks
one comparison you could've included here is with the Softears Studio 4, which surprisingly graphs fairly close to the Performer 8. I have yet to try the Performer 8 but if I have to guess, The Studio 4 would still be worth saving up for if you want that smoother overall presentation. I'm more of a hybrid IEM person so I'll probably purchase the Performer 8 for the DD bass. Guess this is my end of year purchase hehe. Great video as always, Timmy 🙏
TLDR: Studio4s are better. Depends on your budget, consider the Orchestra lite. I've tried both along with the Orchestra lite (and more than I would like to admit). The orchestra lite and performer 8 are surprisingly close. p8 definitely has more details, but if I'm not fully focused on them, it's pretty hard to tell. Tough to justify the upgrade from o lite considering how much cheaper it is ($270 vs $400, including tax, off amazon in the US). Studio4s are straight up better than both (as they should be, given they cost around 490). Are they 220 dollars better than the o lite? Hard to say. O lite is like 85% there. Are Studio4s 90 dollars better than the p8? Yes, definitely worth the extra if you're only going to buy one. It's really about one's perspective and budget. Also you don't need to worry about the bass on the Studio4s, doesn't sound like BA bass at all. The quality and quantity are great. Hope this helps in some way.
The Performer 8 is having somewhat similar tuning strategy to that of 64Audio scooping out the pinna gain region, this surprisingly brings magic to the mids especially female vocal sounds smooth and angelic. I can't wait for your detail review and verdict on the latest U4s.
@jasonbrown31485 @troint Is it that good? Looking to get one and idk if it's the best choice as I listen to classical and jazz and some hip hop I heard that they are good in this regard. But I also play some fps games and watch movies is they are also good in this?
I blind bought the P8 30 minutes after they opened the sales.. I'm curious to see the performance with jazz and classical music, which sound amazing (especially classical) with the SA6 Ultra. By the way I wathced this video wearing the Galileo :) Thanks Timmy !
I have the Performer 5, and now, for a couple of weeks the Performer 8. Since then, I didn't used the Performer 5. I am waiting for the Moondrop Variations to be delivered; I am very curious if the Variations is even better. I absolutely would recommend the Performer 8. Very balanced and clean sound. Not a bass monster, but you don't mis it. Also, very sensitive IEM'S; you don't need much power to get them to work properly.
@umtbozkr2358 Is it that good? And is it good for gaming? Also as I wanna get it and is my only iem can't buy more so was thinking about it . I listen to classical and hip hop they say is good . But no one talk about gaming and watching movies is it good in that. Sorry for being to long
@@sam-wi9hv yeah this is fantastic for just watching a movies, And for gaming?, This is Already Super good because of the details, But if you seek IEM's only for gaming, I think what you need is great soundstage, Performer 8 soundstage is good but not that Impressive, I guess soundstage that isn't wide can be fixed using Dolby Atmos
@@dragonousbrokenus69420 thank you man. No is mainly for classical and hip hop . But I also watch and play so I wanted to know if it perform good in that . So is good in watching and average in gaming?
@@sam-wi9hv performer 8 is Amazing For Classical The details Instrumen is soooo Great, Piano And Violin sound soo so beautiful especially the Drums, soundstage is Ok but not that wide, still great, Separation is good,Vocal is Nice You can clearly tell the difference between each sounds, This is the perfect and probably the best IEMs at its price for Jazz/classic Music(maybe), but yeah IEM's are very subjective
I have the Aful P5 and while i enjoy the bass of this IEM, i feel that at times it feels not sparkly enough for certain tracks. Would the P8 worth the upgrade? Mostly listen to rock song. Also wonder how does the soundstage compared to P5?
I am fan of galileo so smooth, I always praise this in lot of comparison of iems. But I'm busy to past 10 days, updated to new phone, i can't catch the giveaway😢 i f aful like good technicalities comes under $75 . Then i can have one shot..
Great video! Love the review. I asked something related to this in another video you posted, but I am curious about your concern regarding the bass and articulation. I am a professional musician, and I want to replace my high end JBL wedge monitor (PRX618m) with an IEM. I don't play hip hop or heavy hardcore "bass music" so how would the P8 be for an IEM for live performance with my band, solo, and with backing tracks? To give you more info, I am mostly into classic rock, and lots of melodic lead guitar and lots of vocal harmonies. You complained about the bass in your review, but in your opinion, if I am sending a monitor feed to this IEM, via wireless body-pack, would you think that I can make the bass sound better by simply going into that aux send (monitor feed) on my mixer, pull up my 31 band graphic EQ, and just notch up the sliders from 60 Hz to 250 Hz? I have 7 virtual sliders on my iPad mixing surface for my Mackie mixer, and it seems to me (I would have to play with it) that I might be able to compensate for any lack of bass by boosting some or all of those sliders 2-5 db or so and see how it sounds? You have me thinking that the P8 is a better entry than the P5 for live performance, wedge-monitor replacement?
Timmy, I have the Moondrop Kato and enjoy them very much. I am looking for a similar sound but with better detail, resolution and separation. I do like the bass quality of the Kato. Do you think the performer 8 or the B3 would be a significant upgrade? Which one would be a better compliment to the Kato? Thanks in advance!!!
I have the kato and the b3. B3 is a definite upgrade in every way. If you like the kato tuning, go for the b3. The p8 seems to have more relaxed, recessed vocals and not as much bass
Hi...love your videos and your enthusiasm. I want to upgrade my Moondrop Aria and looking for a sub 350$ IEM. What kind of music genres do you think the Aful 8 & Blessing 3 excel at playing, respectively?
Giz , I saw your tier list of 5 months ago, I see you have the duno sa6 mk2 in s tier and below in A tier xenns mangrid top and variation below the sa6 mk2 , is really better or mistake ?
Need something around 300 USD, with bass level of Ikko OH10 or even more (I love bass, especially sub bass) but more refined tonality, could anyone give some suggestions?
@@lukakapanadze6179 the fit for me is ok the comfort is also ok using the medium eartipd of final audio type e and azla xelastec I have a bit big ears maybe that is why
Do you think there will be any budget IEMs with this type of tuning? And will it sound like a banger too or the single DD won’t be able to handle it as compared to the current neutral tune that most follow.
I'm looking forward for that too! I think the Hexa is the closest one but it's still not there. I hope the companies stop making shouty budget iems based on the biased harmanish hype. If you can make shouty budget iem you can make more smooth pinna gain with the same tech.
@@renatobdc that's the problem, it's the budget. In budget space you cannot have everything so shouty is one of the most common thing or bloated bass.
Would you say the Performer 5 has more bass or about the same as the Performer 8? I own the Performer 5 so does the Performer 8 differentiate itself enough from the Performer 5 to make it a worthwhile purchase?
@@Angel-AbC9 I had the similar confusion which one to go either xenns top or Dunu SA6 MK II….but I finally went with Dunu SA6 mk2,it sounds amazing…xenns top has extra bass than sa6 mk2, it doesn’t mean sa6 mk2 lacks bass region. SA6 mk2 has good bass. vocals, mid range, details, treble are great. If u r more bass lover go with xenns top Or go with Dunu sa6 mk2. In addition there is no much price variation between them…u will not regret after buying Dunu sa6 mk2 🙂. The overall performance of p8 as said in this video is less compared with mk2 so u can remove p8 from ur list unless if it hits ur budget…
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How does the p8 compare with the supernova?
Yup, agreed. A mini SA6 Ultra/MK2 with more forward vocals 👌
Review when😂
SA6 MK2 or P8? Which one is considered better between the two? Which do you prefer. Can the SA6 MK2 be EQ’d to bring the vocals forward if needed?
Thanks
one comparison you could've included here is with the Softears Studio 4, which surprisingly graphs fairly close to the Performer 8. I have yet to try the Performer 8 but if I have to guess, The Studio 4 would still be worth saving up for if you want that smoother overall presentation. I'm more of a hybrid IEM person so I'll probably purchase the Performer 8 for the DD bass.
Guess this is my end of year purchase hehe. Great video as always, Timmy 🙏
S4 better
@@zhanurdos precog gave s4 a bad review rip
TLDR: Studio4s are better. Depends on your budget, consider the Orchestra lite.
I've tried both along with the Orchestra lite (and more than I would like to admit).
The orchestra lite and performer 8 are surprisingly close. p8 definitely has more details, but if I'm not fully focused on them, it's pretty hard to tell. Tough to justify the upgrade from o lite considering how much cheaper it is ($270 vs $400, including tax, off amazon in the US).
Studio4s are straight up better than both (as they should be, given they cost around 490). Are they 220 dollars better than the o lite? Hard to say. O lite is like 85% there. Are Studio4s 90 dollars better than the p8? Yes, definitely worth the extra if you're only going to buy one. It's really about one's perspective and budget.
Also you don't need to worry about the bass on the Studio4s, doesn't sound like BA bass at all. The quality and quantity are great.
Hope this helps in some way.
@@M0rg3nT akros puts them lower than the p8 in his comparison. I trust that guy. Not worth the $80 extra. Might as well get dunu sa6 MK2
The Performer 8 is having somewhat similar tuning strategy to that of 64Audio scooping out the pinna gain region, this surprisingly brings magic to the mids especially female vocal sounds smooth and angelic. I can't wait for your detail review and verdict on the latest U4s.
I just got my Performer 8 today and man, these things are spectacular!
Get mine tomorrow:) good taste sir
@@Troint they are awesome!
@jasonbrown31485 @troint
Is it that good? Looking to get one and idk if it's the best choice as I listen to classical and jazz and some hip hop I heard that they are good in this regard.
But I also play some fps games and watch movies is they are also good in this?
I blind bought the P8 30 minutes after they opened the sales.. I'm curious to see the performance with jazz and classical music, which sound amazing (especially classical) with the SA6 Ultra. By the way I wathced this video wearing the Galileo :) Thanks Timmy !
It's good, you'll like it. :)
Just got the p8 based on the timmy review and it is amazing. Love it thanks for the review!
Do you still recommend it?
I have the Performer 5, and now, for a couple of weeks the Performer 8. Since then, I didn't used the Performer 5.
I am waiting for the Moondrop Variations to be delivered; I am very curious if the Variations is even better. I absolutely would recommend the Performer 8. Very balanced and clean sound. Not a bass monster, but you don't mis it. Also, very sensitive IEM'S; you don't need much power to get them to work properly.
@umtbozkr2358
Is it that good?
And is it good for gaming? Also as I wanna get it and is my only iem can't buy more so was thinking about it .
I listen to classical and hip hop they say is good .
But no one talk about gaming and watching movies is it good in that.
Sorry for being to long
@@sam-wi9hv yeah this is fantastic for just watching a movies, And for gaming?, This is Already Super good because of the details, But if you seek IEM's only for gaming, I think what you need is great soundstage, Performer 8 soundstage is good but not that Impressive, I guess soundstage that isn't wide can be fixed using Dolby Atmos
@@dragonousbrokenus69420 thank you man.
No is mainly for classical and hip hop .
But I also watch and play so I wanted to know if it perform good in that .
So is good in watching and average in gaming?
@@sam-wi9hv classical and hip hop? These are amazing!, yeah average for gaming and watching movies.
@@sam-wi9hv performer 8 is Amazing For Classical The details Instrumen is soooo Great, Piano And Violin sound soo so beautiful especially the Drums, soundstage is Ok but not that wide, still great, Separation is good,Vocal is Nice
You can clearly tell the difference between each sounds, This is the perfect and probably the best IEMs at its price for Jazz/classic Music(maybe), but yeah IEM's are very subjective
Getting the performer 5 to go along with my s12 pro 😃
Hi5
Great review and comparison, just as expected it rivals sa6 a bit while being cheaper 🔥🔥
Hard to go for anything around this price range with the Crin retune of B3 on the horizon...
I swear crin will boost the bass and reduce the upper mids, nothing special compared to p8
Finally, an iem that can rival B3's technical performance under $400 😮
Top of my list for sure, beauty!
i just wish perfurmer 8 has same build as sa 6, i want to see all the internals and craftmanship.
Thanks for another great review,
Would the monarch mk2 be a direct upgrade to the p8? I want that wide and great directional audio mostly with good bass
Can I ask what are "micro details?" You keep bringing it up, but I don't know what it means.
Would need more bass and airy treble for my preferences.
Oh my god, I thought I know you from somewhere. It turns out I do, you were Imagine Scents reviewing fragrances. Lol wassup timmy!
Yes, hello lol
Is this another unicorn moment like when the 7hz Timeless debut?
I have the Aful P5 and while i enjoy the bass of this IEM, i feel that at times it feels not sparkly enough for certain tracks. Would the P8 worth the upgrade? Mostly listen to rock song. Also wonder how does the soundstage compared to P5?
Good day. A review of the Penon 10th anniversary would be greatly appreciated! Regards. WvS
May you can help me. The Performer 8 or the WD Audio Pro 30X??? I dunno which I should buy…
I am fan of galileo so smooth, I always praise this in lot of comparison of iems. But I'm busy to past 10 days, updated to new phone, i can't catch the giveaway😢 i f aful like good technicalities comes under $75 . Then i can have one shot..
I’ll keep my b3. Love it’s vocals. P8 seems too recessed there
How does this compare to the Linsoul Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite?
Hi Timmy you are the best! according to you which one is better and why? Empire Ears Odin or Unique Melody Mest Mk II? :)
does p8 still worth it now ? or amy recommendations for end game under 400$ ...I have use blessing 2,starfield and hexa
Aful paired with schitt aful schitt
Ill wait to pull the trigger until the new iteration of the B3 comes out🤔
Ty for the review. What ranking will it get on the list?
Very hyped ❤️🔥❤️🔥
Great video! Love the review. I asked something related to this in another video you posted, but I am curious about your concern regarding the bass and articulation. I am a professional musician, and I want to replace my high end JBL wedge monitor (PRX618m) with an IEM. I don't play hip hop or heavy hardcore "bass music" so how would the P8 be for an IEM for live performance with my band, solo, and with backing tracks?
To give you more info, I am mostly into classic rock, and lots of melodic lead guitar and lots of vocal harmonies.
You complained about the bass in your review, but in your opinion, if I am sending a monitor feed to this IEM, via wireless body-pack, would you think that I can make the bass sound better by simply going into that aux send (monitor feed) on my mixer, pull up my 31 band graphic EQ, and just notch up the sliders from 60 Hz to 250 Hz? I have 7 virtual sliders on my iPad mixing surface for my Mackie mixer, and it seems to me (I would have to play with it) that I might be able to compensate for any lack of bass by boosting some or all of those sliders 2-5 db or so and see how it sounds?
You have me thinking that the P8 is a better entry than the P5 for live performance, wedge-monitor replacement?
Timmy, I have the Moondrop Kato and enjoy them very much. I am looking for a similar sound but with better detail, resolution and separation. I do like the bass quality of the Kato. Do you think the performer 8 or the B3 would be a significant upgrade? Which one would be a better compliment to the Kato?
Thanks in advance!!!
Same question
I have the kato and the b3. B3 is a definite upgrade in every way. If you like the kato tuning, go for the b3. The p8 seems to have more relaxed, recessed vocals and not as much bass
Umm he, Timmy loves vocals, and he loves this iem... What that tell you?
@@shaunbrady15Thanks for the reply! Have you heard the performer 8 to make comparisons? How does the B3 respond to EQ?
@@kevinmccarthy3753 I haven’t heard the p8 yet, but I want to at some point. B3 responds really well to eq, I use wavelet
I wish they'd revamp their logo on the shells - it's a bit much
Hi...love your videos and your enthusiasm. I want to upgrade my Moondrop Aria and looking for a sub 350$ IEM. What kind of music genres do you think the Aful 8 & Blessing 3 excel at playing, respectively?
Love my 8 but I hear sub bass and mid bass equally
Giz , I saw your tier list of 5 months ago, I see you have the duno sa6 mk2 in s tier and below in A tier xenns mangrid top and variation below the sa6 mk2 , is really better or mistake ?
hi timmy hey man do you happpen to have a 20-75ohm resistor;not sure if it could increase bass?
Have using moondrop aria for a year. Really like it, but it got inefficient amount of bass. With budget around 400$, what upgrade do I can get
thanks for the review, how does it compare to monarch mk2 in terms of micro detail?
Need something around 300 USD, with bass level of Ikko OH10 or even more (I love bass, especially sub bass) but more refined tonality, could anyone give some suggestions?
Please say balls to the wall more often 👍. Thanks for the review tho!
Hi timmy,what would you recommend for male and female vocal?dunu kima or titan s?
looks sooo gooood
Can't find bassy IEMs these days ok I'm getting the IER Z1R I have no choice
Fatfreq says hi
@@lukakapanadze6179 just got the IER Z1R....Grand Maestro next year....
@@RedSunAudio How's the comfort? The only thing putting me off is the reported lack of comfort/bulkiness.
@@lukakapanadze6179 the fit for me is ok the comfort is also ok using the medium eartipd of final audio type e and azla xelastec I have a bit big ears maybe that is why
Do you think there will be any budget IEMs with this type of tuning? And will it sound like a banger too or the single DD won’t be able to handle it as compared to the current neutral tune that most follow.
I'm looking forward for that too! I think the Hexa is the closest one but it's still not there. I hope the companies stop making shouty budget iems based on the biased harmanish hype. If you can make shouty budget iem you can make more smooth pinna gain with the same tech.
@@renatobdc that's the problem, it's the budget. In budget space you cannot have everything so shouty is one of the most common thing or bloated bass.
@@renatobdc the 7Hz Zero, Hola, or the like aren’t shouty to me but I also hope to see different tunes other than the neutral or generic v shape.
Truthear Zero:RED. Don't think twice, just get it!
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Yay for P8
wtf already Blessing 3, and Dunu SA6 MK2 on a budget. Actually insane. Indonesian companies ftw
is the gemini worth the 2k upgrade? i wanna endgame, but how much better is it really?
I would say if yes but the Gemini and anole really benefit for being in a ciem. The treble is so clean and smooth
Can you please suggest the best iem under 20$🙏
vs softears studio 4 timi?
Softears Is better
Perfromer 8
Mangird top
Which one better?
These ,b3, or studio 4
studio 4 if you can afford it
I refuse to call it "awful"!
Since there's no "w" I say it just like "A full performer" "Aful"
Makes sense? 🤷🏻
Would you say the Performer 5 has more bass or about the same as the Performer 8? I own the Performer 5 so does the Performer 8 differentiate itself enough from the Performer 5 to make it a worthwhile purchase?
yes it does
Upgrade of Aful P5?
Yes, better sound, more technical.
p8 vs supernova?
What's the rightmost IEM in the detail scale?
Elysian Acoustics Annihilator
How do we enter giveaway ?
Overall which one will you prefer , aful 8 or xenns mangrid tops ?
Does anyone know
aful p8 = tops
but tops is warmer sound
@@user-gk3id6ns5u so which do you prefer ?
@@Angel-AbC9 I had the similar confusion which one to go either xenns top or Dunu SA6 MK II….but I finally went with Dunu SA6 mk2,it sounds amazing…xenns top has extra bass than sa6 mk2, it doesn’t mean sa6 mk2 lacks bass region. SA6 mk2 has good bass. vocals, mid range, details, treble are great. If u r more bass lover go with xenns top Or go with Dunu sa6 mk2. In addition there is no much price variation between them…u will not regret after buying Dunu sa6 mk2 🙂.
The overall performance of p8 as said in this video is less compared with mk2 so u can remove p8 from ur list unless if it hits ur budget…
@nijanthankumar thank you that helped , I would look more into sa6 mk 2 ..
@@Angel-AbC9
1000% top
Vs AP5?
What's the price of it
$376US
Not a lot of bass… I’m out… 😂 jk
But the pinna!!!
Entry??? LOL
FIIIIIIRST
terrible name, so close to AWFUL or "a fool"
people use phones called apple.
Bro plz if yu have any earphones laying around plz donate to me bro iam a student and cant afford a new 1 ....... 😢