Josh's Car Corner - Ep. 61 - Complete Suspension Swap on a GTO
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- čas přidán 10. 10. 2018
- In this episode, we take a GTO from totally stock to totally stuck, as we replace every bushing, every shock, and every spring on my friend James' 2006 Brazen Orange GTO. We'll be installing a Pedders Extreme coilover kit and several bushings from Whiteline Performance. Enjoy!
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Awesomeness! Finally someone who shows a step by step install of the new age GOAT! Man much thanks to Josh's Car Corner for giving a hoot!
Finally, been looking for this! Your caliper rebuild vid helped me a lot when I upgraded my '04 GTO to '05-'06 calipers. Thanks!
Wish you showed more of the actual process like a stepby step guide similar to Chris fix. Otherwise love the content thanks!
I get gimirgeting
What a great video!!! Thankyou for this!! Thankyou also for showing the tips and tricks to help make this whole install/removal thing a lot easier too!! WOW!!!
Very useful... now I can use this for my gto.. thank you for this step by step
Josh. I just purchased a 2006 gto cyclone grey 6 speed. Absolutely love it. It's been my dream car since they came out. Was worth the wait!
car guy saving up for mine right now. I get chills everytime I see one on the road bro.
@@Cedrickfly I agree. I literally cried when I got home and it sunk in, no joke I know it sounds ridiculous for a 31 year old. I traded my ws6 in for it. Was a good car but I was 18 when I was working at a Pontiac dealer and drove a 6 speed black on black. I was hooked.
@@carguy6636 Congrats on getting your dream car. I definitely know that feeling. The GTO is a fantastic modern muscle car.
Gonna be doing this. Plus the sway bars and the steering rack all at once. Thanks for the informative tutorial
You have probably done it by now, but when you do those bushes, dont lube the outside of the bush as it will accelerate its wear. Only lube the inside and many urethane bushes now have a teflon coating that dont require grease. Too much grease catches dust and turns into grinding paste and wears the bush. If there is rust, best to clean and oil it.
@@amounifnd ok. Thanks for the tip. I ended up having to do something else. Wont be doing suspension till this summer now
@@TysonPaxton1214need my bushings done ASAP
Got a 06 totally stock GTO in blue metallic GARAGE QUEEN bought new ,love it.
Just got a peddlers coil over kit… excited to install it
Your videos are the reason why everyday I strive harder to work harder every day to buy a GTO , i won’t be able to afford a 05-06 but an 04 is good enough for me , keep up the videos , I also appreciate how you don’t do this CZcams stuff for money and truly care about these cars
What’s the word you got one?
James and I would love to get our hands on the one we borrowed again in the interest of taking it to a machine shop and seeing how much it would cost to make a jig and start producing them. Don't know how cost-effective that would be but for anybody that plans on keeping their car long-term and modifying the suspension it's a useful tool to have.
Great video! I'm about to attempt the some thing.... except solo. Pray for me! LOL
On a side note you have a new subscriber!
hell ya brother. good work. thank you men!!!
Great video. I had to use heat and a spanner to get my rear toe links out in a vice lol.
For the rear trailing arms I drilled out the bolts and installed 1/2 bolts. After watching a million videos mine would not come out so it was my solution. Been in for a summer of driving no issues. Not sure if it's the right thing to do.
#becausewannaberacecar
Excellent video. I have had whiteline poly strut mounts and the adjustable radius rod bushings in mine along with the Revshift poly trans mount insert and my car always feels planted and stable. Also have Energy Suspension red poly rear cradle bushings. Still debating on coilovers.
Rich McDowell well worth it!
Freaking amazing video
You sir have a new subscriber 🐐🐐🐐🐐
Just wanted to put some coilovers in, now this guys got me changing out every fucking rubber piece under my car... It adds up quickly lol
4:43 - Living dangerously by not disconnecting the ABS/wheel sensor!
Josh. I hope all is well with you. I hope that you have some new videos coming. I really miss not seeing any in a while. Perhaps, with Spring right around the corner some may be planned. Tom
Got my number 2 pencil out bout to take notes........
when u do the rear wheel alignment its critical u get end float in the drive shafts .5 to 4mm or they will chew out the bearings in the diff if the wheel aligner dont set the end float
Awesome video, definitely the best MOD for this car. Get the Hinson transmount though, far superior to an insert.
When i upgrade the Trans ill look into that as well.
I think I would only do that if I had already upgraded my engine mounts to poly. Having the rear mounting point be that stiff while the engine mounts are still floppy could put undue stress on the transmission case.
You rock🤟
Great video Josh! I appreciate what you're doing with these GTO vids. It would be nice to know a combined total of the parts cost.
Ill try to come up with a list and prices of everything i bought for everyone asking let me get into it this weekend.
Awesome video Josh! How does one obtain a cradle alignment tool? Is this something that can be bought or made or are we at the mercy of renting/borrowing it?
What do u think of the gforce rearend lowering kit for the gto
If you could help me that would be awesome. With the whiteline strut mount. Will the stop Plate sit flush when car is on the ground? Feel like I’m doing something wrong.
I just bought a new to me 2004 yellow jacket GTO with ZERO miles.
It’s a 1:18 scale
At 7:29 I noticed that the gap he has between the front fender and the front bumper is fairly large. I don't know if the plastic clips on his front bumper are broken or not, Josh, but I think a GREAT video for us GTO owners might be how to go about repairing that issue WITHOUT having to buy a new bumper. Just a thought for a future video. :)
I recently learned a trick to improve that. I'm sure I'll film it at some point.
I’m deff going to have josh help me out again and do this cause unfortunately car does have the dreaded clip brake.
Hey josh love the videos been learning alot from them thank you ! If you’re on a budget and saving up for the whole coilover suspension kit what would you replace before doing that. Only have new tire rods and one set of bushings in the rear . Any help would be great, Thanks !
The rest of the bushings, especially the radius rod ones.
Josh's Car Corner so i just ordered a set of coil overs front and back what should i replace so i wont have to go back and remove the whole assembly again ?? Isnt there a u joint at the very top of the coilover that holds in it place where the strut mount goes?
Looking to swap out everything not worried about end links or control arms because there easy to get to!
I'm looking into buying the same pedders package but I have a couple of questions. Why not use the pedders radius rod bushings that come with the package and also were you able to use the HD radius rods that came with the package with the whiteline radius rod bushings?
Ok I ran into a stupid problem, how do you attach them into the strut Tower? There is an adjustable knob there that I don't think comes off.
Are there any aftermarket parts to make my GTO feel more like a Crown Vic in terms of dampening? I recently rode in a Crown Vic and it feels like your floating on a mattress, it absorbs ever single bump insanely well. My GTO still has the original stock setup and 15 years later its all worn out and I can feel every nasty bump in the road, even the minor bumps. I drove the Crown Vic down the same street and I couldn't feel any bumps at all. I'm kinda over cars with stiff suspension, I dont do any kind of racing or extreme cornering in my GTO so I dont see why I would need it to be so stiff. Also I read that Poly bushing her and there accumulate to a overall stiffer ride, any truth to that? Trying to go the opposite of a stiff ride when I restore my suspension.
How much was all that set up?
How was the ride after the coilover install?
7:59 tighten strut bushing nut to 58ft/lbs
9:44 tighten strut tower nut to 41ft/lbs
Is this the fact that a nut comes with the coilovers (I have Megans/BCs I’m currently installing) on top (right under where the adjuster knob goes in?) and then we have another nut that came on the OEM strut thread?
So if I understand correctly the nut over the strut mount bushing/bearing tq to 58ft/lbs, put the coil over into the car, then when done torque the top nut on top of the retainer plate (over the already torqued coil over nut) to 41ft/lbs?
Where'd he get the gto stickers for the skirts?
I wonder if you wouldn't mind providing a complete list of the parts you ordered and used for this fantastic project?
Ill try to come up with a list and prices of everything i bought for everyone asking let me get into it this weekend.
Can we get a parts list please?
Love the video! Do you know where i can get my hands on all the replacement nuts/bolts?
Rob @ Wretched Motorsports
@@JoshsCarCorner thanks so much man!
How much better is White Line???
I have a box full of rear bushings and I hit up my friend to ask if I can borrow his rear cradle tool and he tells me it's in Arizona. This makes me wonder a bit lol
When I did my radius rod bushings I had to put the car on a lift and use a 3 foot breaker bar. The bolt laughed at my impact gun. Soaked it in penetrating fluid and the nut squeaked like a haunted house door with every mm I turned it. Car was still on the OEM bushing at 117k miles 😲
Can you post a parts list?
Hey Josh. How did you get that one bolt off that's located at the very front of the subframe. The one that still holds up the subframe even with the plate off?
Big breaker bar with extension
I just had extreme pedders installed about 6 months ago. I love the new adjustable coilovers. I think mine went out of height adjustment this week... noticing left rear is over an inch higher than the left. I don't even know how that would happen though. Any guesses are welcome.
The rear springs float when the car is in the air. They sit on rubber perches top and bottom. It's possible when you initially set it up one of the rear springs wasn't fully seated. I would set it again and see if it changes.
Good thoughts... I'll set an appointment... probably 3 weeks out though.
Josh, great videos. At 12:14 its not clear to me why you had to loosen the control arm nut to frame? Im about to do my 06 and concerned about this step, thanks.
Because we replaced the control arms with new ones
The concern I have centers at 12:27. Raising suspension to factory ride height before tightening bolts to prevent damage. I put new control arms on too and about to install new peddars, however, I'm assuming I don't have to touch those control arms again, correct? Sorry, l wasn't clear.
I’m pretty sure you could’ve left the brake caliper/rotors on and only removed the top caliper bracket bolt (in order to get the 22mm strut bolts out) and then when the “hub assembly” falls forward after removal of stock stuff the brake caliper holds everything in place with the slide pins
No, you coudn't. The brake lines would not stretch far enough and you don't want to stretch brake lines in the first place.
@@JoshsCarCorner gotcha. I was going off the BC install write up on LS1gto forum and he left the whole brake assembly together just let the knuckle drop .. wonder if the Pedders are different?
@@JoshsCarCorner lol I ended up putting my front coils in without removing the brake assembly! Didn’t stretch barely at all
When you noticed the rear cradle alignment was off, what did you do to bring it up to get it to align perfectly?
Pry bars. Moved it around till the tool locked in.
@@JoshsCarCorner so you did that while the diff bolts and subframe bolts still slightly loose? Btw thanks a million Josh, your videos saved me hundreds of dollars..
How did you get the passenger side radius rod in my AC lines are in the way
They shouldn't be. If they are, either the hangers are missing or you have the wrong lines in your car.
I've searched and not had any luck and maybe you can help. Driver's side rear shock at the top has the stud wandering around in the hole. I can wiggle the shock side to side and hit the hole. I tried superpro and whiteline bushing with no luck. Any thoughts on where I went wrong on the install? I'm using the F+F coilovers if that helps. Thank you.
Did you put the rubber bushings on the top and bottom of the mounting hole?
Parts list? Please.
What driveshaft would you recommend for the gto
Watch the episode called Let's Talk Driveshafts
I recently put a 6.2 ls3 prc heads , cam etc etc . Engine was built by texas speed. Runs great!!!! BUT so many ecm issues that I'm about to pull it out . Do u have any suggestions. 06 gto red . Thanks!
How'd you get around the crank trigger issue? Did they put a 24x reluctor on?
Lingenfelter converter. Works decently but they ALL make the engine have a delay in start up. I got my hands on a iron blk 6.0 that I'm seriously thinking about dropping in the goat. I'm putting flattop pistons in it now
Did he have to order the control arms separately or did they come 2 to an order?
You get the pair
Nice video Josh, if you are ever interested in working on an 04 GTO let me know?
I have before. Did a brake upgrade on one.
Whatever happened to the early video of you doing rear control arm bushings one side at a time? Maybe I just don't remember the title of it
Episode 33
@@JoshsCarCorner thanks, seconds after I read your reply I got to the part in this video where you mentioned episode 33 lol
I have a question for anybody. I bought the peddlers radius rod bushing set and there’s a standard setting and sports setting with the washers, is there an actual difference by doing either one of these?
I would imagine the sports setting is increasing the caster, couldn't tell you by how much, but probably somewhere from 0.5-1.0 degrees.
Josh's Car Corner would you suggest increasing it? I don’t know a lot about suspension but I know the basics
Hey josh. I just got the same suspension from pedders and I can’t find the hardware for it. I messaged them and they said they don’t sell it anymore. Do you know where I could get the bolts from.
Rob at Wretched Motorsports sells all of it
Thank you!!!
I put those exact rod bushings in and now I can’t seem to align my caster right at the shop the only suspension parts I haven’t replaced is the struts would that cause my caster to align right ?
@@aaronosentoski8113 The only part of the strut assembly that could affect caster is the strut tower bushings. If you replaced those then the struts should both be in the same position on top.
You may have to set the RR bushings at different positions. It's also dependent on whether your front engine cradle is perfectly aligned. I know on my car, I have both my front radius rod bushings set in the same position and my right front wheel has 0.3° less caster than my left front wheel.
How do I set the RR bushings at different positions the white line kit I bought didn’t come with the adjustable spacers and I can’t seem to find the spacers that would normally come with the kits
Hey I’m trying to put my sway bar bushings in put it’s a real tight fit WHAT DO I DO ???
Did you lube both sides before putting it in?
Yes I did the driver side but the passenger is really rough to do
What is that sexy lip above the rear window?
Can u link where u got these parts
Just about everything here can be purchased at Wretched Motorsports.
G.O.N.E t shirt but looks like your in the south
I was at the time