Hey man. Just a FYI you can do the mag side I do mine every time I do the pto side. It sucks but pull recoil then the flywheel remove top and lower stator bolts leaving one in. Then use a syringe with 5ml of isoflex squirt it slowly in lower bolt hole the air Comes out the top hole. Then re assemble had a 08 800r with 6800 miles on it I did this every season. Lower end never let loose must have helped.
I used a syringe to fill the bearing. I believe the Isoflex is designed to somewhat harden like wax when cold then liquify when warm. The concept is to keep the bearings always coated. Unfortunately ski doo hasn’t developed a better design for their great engines. The other manufacturers have seemed to figure it out
Good video you should mention that the clutch has balancing marks and sometimes previous owners did not know about and should be checked , out of balance clutch not cool Cheer from the great white north
The worst thing you can do is use an impact on a clutch bolt. you screw the bearings on the rod (chatter the chrome off the lower rod bearings) next thing you do not use a soft face hammer on the end of the puller...
thats a bearing buddy ur supposed to pump grease in thru the fitting at the other end of the hose.Thats a good setup but someone didnt use it the way it was ment
its a fudgy setup ive heard of people pooping seals if there to much grease in there. for the 10 minuts it takes to take it apart ill stick to doing that every season
Nice video, Thank you for doing it, very well done. One question is when you re-install the new gasket, does it just pop in or what's the best way to get it into the groove? Thanks again, much appreciated.
Does anyone use aeroshell 22 heard I works better than isoflex its used in the aviation world in landing gear and turbine bearings and heli rotors sounds like good grease
although clicking it more then once is unnecessary, and if your a amateur it can SOMETIMES over torque the bolt. it can also be done without over torquing the bolt. but it is unnecessary iether way
Anyone try Metalon grease? I've seen it used in industrial applications, it can more than double bearing life, I'm wondering if it would work well for these engine bearings
The mag and inners are hard to get to, most people say there pto side lets go first , possibly due to heat from clutches, maybe true maybe not , but since its so easy to do pto side y not do it.
if the outer one is that chunky. then what about the ones inside the motor and the one on mag side? the ones u cant get to? main reason i left doo camp! worst design ever! would buy a car ot truck if the crank bearings were packed with grease? Absolutely not! Junk!
There are 6 bearings, the 2 outers are isoflex on each side, and the 2 middle ones are in an oil bath of crank case oil. There is a procedure to add grease to the PTO and MAG side inners but you cannot clean the old grease. Its added by using hot grease and a syringe gravity fed and a non air tight administration. Otherwise if you inject grease into a sealed bearing it will blow the seal. Also you don’t use a lot of grease since these are in high temp areas and need thermal expansion space. The amount of grease used in this video is way too much. Best bet is to buy a service manual and follow the directions closely. I personally wouldn’t bother with the inner bearings and just save those for a rebuild. These ETECs are best rebuilt every 10000km to avoid catastrophic failures. Doing a rebuild on a running engine where you still have a good core to exchange is much cheaper then replacing a grenaded motor. With the core swap and a day in your garage can install an ETEC overhaul kit for around $1200 CAD.
The clutch side outer bearings are the most durable bearings in that Junk. The inners are also greased as are the Mag side. The inners used to be oiled but not in a bath. This video, while full of good intentions merely put lipstick on a Pig!
heat from clutch has nothing to do with grease getting crappy like that. thats just how all grease gets after use and no fresh grease to push out the old crap. the other 3 bearings are just as bad as the one u just took apart!
kwmiked I haven't looked at the other bearings so I can't really comment, but the clutch side seals are the most common to go so some say because if heat from clutches , how could anyone really know for sure if that's true or not.
I RIDE 705 ignore that guys bullshit. lol 3 more bearings.. There's 2 bearings on the Mag side.. 2 on the PTO side..and 2 in the center.. PTO side bearings subject to excessive heat. good preventative maintenance! next time use a butter knife to force the grease into the bearing behind that one. good luck and happy braaapin! FYI hopefully the previous owner didn't damage the inner seal of the bearing behind it with that bearing buddy being forced with too much grease. I'd pull the seal and inspect from a month from now.
Don Mega tell me how u get grease to the 2 center bearings and the mag side bearing? U dont! from the 2 i had go, the center bearings were all rusted up and gone. so tell me how greasing one outer bearing helps the rest of the bearings on the crank!??? it doesn't!
This guy is wrong with the water to pull the clutch off. Yesit works but you can't use the bolt that holds the clutch on. You need a bolt matching the threads that the puller has which threads into the clutch itself
You can use water and Teflon on skidoo because the original clutch bolt actually threads into the clutch before the crank unlike the old Polaris clutches
Never done this on my skiidoo 670 formula z owned it for 20years... stil works like a champ
that's because your 670 it not greased it oiled by the gas/oil mixture totally different setup
@@iride7056 oh thx how whould a know👍
Bearing, Rings and Pistons. Had 2008 800R then I got a job! As long as BRP keeps cranking out this Junk, their mechanics will have lots of work!
Hey man. Just a FYI you can do the mag side I do mine every time I do the pto side. It sucks but pull recoil then the flywheel remove top and lower stator bolts leaving one in. Then use a syringe with 5ml of isoflex squirt it slowly in lower bolt hole the air Comes out the top hole. Then re assemble had a 08 800r with 6800 miles on it I did this every season. Lower end never let loose must have helped.
I used a syringe to fill the bearing. I believe the Isoflex is designed to somewhat harden like wax when cold then liquify when warm. The concept is to keep the bearings always coated. Unfortunately ski doo hasn’t developed a better design for their great engines. The other manufacturers have seemed to figure it out
Oh man, I wish there were links in the description to purchase this stuff. Awesome video.
Good video you should mention that the clutch has balancing marks and sometimes previous owners did not know about and should be checked , out of balance clutch not cool
Cheer from the great white north
Watch this video if you want to learn how to do everything the wrong way
The worst thing you can do is use an impact on a clutch bolt. you screw the bearings on the rod (chatter the chrome off the lower rod bearings) next thing you do not use a soft face hammer on the end of the puller...
thats a bearing buddy ur supposed to pump grease in thru the fitting at the other end of the hose.Thats a good setup but someone didnt use it the way it was ment
its a fudgy setup ive heard of people pooping seals if there to much grease in there. for the 10 minuts it takes to take it apart ill stick to doing that every season
My god. Put the socket on the bolt before you press the trigger
Nice video, Thank you for doing it, very well done. One question is when you re-install the new gasket, does it just pop in or what's the best way to get it into the groove? Thanks again, much appreciated.
just sit in into the grove it should fit nice, and gently but the head onto tork and braaappp
There isn’t a seal on the other side of that bearing. I fill the cavity in between the two pto bearings when I rebuilt my crank
Does anyone use aeroshell 22 heard I works better than isoflex its used in the aviation world in landing gear and turbine bearings and heli rotors sounds like good grease
what about the mag side? don't all the crank bearings take isoflex?
After watching this vid, I would never want you to wrench on any of my stuff
never click a torque wrench more than once. so many amateurs click them about 5 times. it only over torques the bolt
I probebly clicked it a few extras lol
how does it over torque the bolt if your not going 'past' the clicking points.. bahaha i must be an amateur ! learn something new everyday.
although clicking it more then once is unnecessary, and if your a amateur it can SOMETIMES over torque the bolt. it can also be done without over torquing the bolt. but it is unnecessary iether way
you’re supposed to pull the outside of the clutch off and then use the clutch puller
Skidoo still use an isoflex grease in the bearings junk looking for a crank failure
"Hopefully..." At least he's honest.
Wtf isn’t it setup for the 2 stroke oil to lube that bearing, what’s with the grease? Jesus
11:38 torque it till it snaps. bad advise for beginnner mechanics. i can hear clutch bolts breaking all across America right now
um its a torque wrench when it makes that snapping noise it means youve reached the set torque wrench setting
I RIDE 705 It was a joke about newbies. I've been turning wrenches for over 20 yrs.
i am having trouble finding the crank seal, can you please tell me where i can buy it?
Will 1 tube do both sides?
Dont forget the mag side aswell or why even do it?
hard to do? can it be done in the chassis?
May i ask where your at? 705 does that have to do with your location? Personally im in ontario. Thats why i asked. Killer shop you have there
What size torx are those retainer bolts?
I Ride is a gangster when it comes to doing shit one handed!
Brett Perhase lol
Don't keep clicking your torque wrench like that, one click and it's done.
Does the 2006 mxz600 have this too?
What years does this work on?
is it this easy on an 05 rev?
can i have a link to purchase that aftermarket grease setup where you can just inject it?
i didnt buy it and dont like it id rather the stock setup just remove the plate and do it by hand
Nice vid man
Anyone try Metalon grease? I've seen it used in industrial applications, it can more than double bearing life, I'm wondering if it would work well for these engine bearings
Did you find out?
Like you know punk
@@axldressler6491 Wut?
Did you say don't whack it but why LoL 😜😝
Them poor crank bearings! Never use a impact on the clutch bolt!! A few turns using a puller and breaker bar and it will pop off easy.
Never heard that. Can’t use an impact to loosen the primary clutch bolt?
I agree beaker bar is the way to go that’s what I use now
fiddlestix. those bearings are stronger than the hubs of hades. it's not like he's wanging on it with a 20lb sledge hammer.
Not necessarily the bearings, knocking the crankshaft out of phase. Don't use impacts on crankshafts!
No more on bike vlogs?
Richie 636 more when the snow flies !! Skidoo ones
Richie 636 oh just read that again lol ya I'm still going to blog on bike I have one still to upload. But getting to cold here to ride
Im looking forward to your snowmobile vlog. Im sure you channel will go crazzy.
what about the inner bearings? if the pto and mag side are due for repacking the the inners are a must.
The mag and inners are hard to get to, most people say there pto side lets go first , possibly due to heat from clutches, maybe true maybe not , but since its so easy to do pto side y not do it.
Adam Gee the new 850 bearings are all lubricated by the injection oil.
@@iride7056Did you use the whole tube on the PTO side?
if the outer one is that chunky. then what about the ones inside the motor and the one on mag side? the ones u cant get to? main reason i left doo camp! worst design ever! would buy a car ot truck if the crank bearings were packed with grease? Absolutely not! Junk!
kwmiked yup shitty design for sure.
There are 6 bearings, the 2 outers are isoflex on each side, and the 2 middle ones are in an oil bath of crank case oil.
There is a procedure to add grease to the PTO and MAG side inners but you cannot clean the old grease. Its added by using hot grease and a syringe gravity fed and a non air tight administration. Otherwise if you inject grease into a sealed bearing it will blow the seal.
Also you don’t use a lot of grease since these are in high temp areas and need thermal expansion space. The amount of grease used in this video is way too much. Best bet is to buy a service manual and follow the directions closely.
I personally wouldn’t bother with the inner bearings and just save those for a rebuild. These ETECs are best rebuilt every 10000km to avoid catastrophic failures. Doing a rebuild on a running engine where you still have a good core to exchange is much cheaper then replacing a grenaded motor. With the core swap and a day in your garage can install an ETEC overhaul kit for around $1200 CAD.
Kwmike-D what about the 850? the bearings are directly oiled.
The clutch side outer bearings are the most durable bearings in that Junk. The inners are also greased as are the Mag side. The inners used to be oiled but not in a bath. This video, while full of good intentions merely put lipstick on a Pig!
heat from clutch has nothing to do with grease getting crappy like that. thats just how all grease gets after use and no fresh grease to push out the old crap. the other 3 bearings are just as bad as the one u just took apart!
kwmiked I haven't looked at the other bearings so I can't really comment, but the clutch side seals are the most common to go so some say because if heat from clutches , how could anyone really know for sure if that's true or not.
I RIDE 705 ignore that guys bullshit. lol 3 more bearings.. There's 2 bearings on the Mag side.. 2 on the PTO side..and 2 in the center.. PTO side bearings subject to excessive heat. good preventative maintenance! next time use a butter knife to force the grease into the bearing behind that one. good luck and happy braaapin!
FYI hopefully the previous owner didn't damage the inner seal of the bearing behind it with that bearing buddy being forced with too much grease. I'd pull the seal and inspect from a month from now.
Don Mega tell me how u get grease to the 2 center bearings and the mag side bearing? U dont! from the 2 i had go, the center bearings were all rusted up and gone. so tell me how greasing one outer bearing helps the rest of the bearings on the crank!??? it doesn't!
kwmiked It is clearly obvious that you are ignorant. yes ignorant. believe what you want. keep on trolling
Don Mega its clear u have no idea whats going on!
This guy is wrong with the water to pull the clutch off. Yesit works but you can't use the bolt that holds the clutch on. You need a bolt matching the threads that the puller has which threads into the clutch itself
Chantel Brezinski that definitely makes sense thanks for the input!!
Chantel Brezinski not true you can in some cases use the factory clutch bolt with teflon tape and water.
Yeah that's not entirely true. As TheKingranch150 mentioned you just need teflon tape. Did it a couple days ago and works amazingly well.
Your wrong you can use same bolt
You can use water and Teflon on skidoo because the original clutch bolt actually threads into the clutch before the crank unlike the old Polaris clutches
Why don't you clean your mouth and pack it with grease... IT KINDA FILTHY TOO !!!
AMTimber9 I'm sorry your so easily offended it must be difficult for you to survive day to day hearing all this awful profanity