East: the strangest places in Game of Thrones?
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- What strange places lie to the far east and south of Westeros? What are the dangers of Sothoryos and the Basilisk Isles? What lurks in the Shivering Sea? What does the Great Empire of the Dawn and the Five Forts reveal about the Long Night and Azor Ahai? What are the dark mysteries of Asshai?
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0:00 Intro
0:36 Sothoryos
2:58 Basilisk Isles
5:37 Sarnor
7:28 Shivering Sea
8:33 Ib
10:35 Thousand Islands
11:40 The Bones
12:49 Jogos Nhai
14:21 Yi Ti & Great Empire
15:57 Five Forts
17:38 Leng
19:08 Asshai
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why did you stop with the worlds of expanse explanations?
Will you go to the unseen westeros event in january 2019 in berlin? Since i live in germany i think i will go there..
Dude could you tell me which software you use for video editing? And is it fast??
I just learned so much new information from this single video. I cant believe how dense this world really is.
15:52 It also reminds me of starfall, the dayn stronghold in dorne..
I like how Westeros seems more like the more historical Medieval city, while Far Eastern Essos places seem like something out of Dark Souls
Probably the biases of the Maisters that GRRM said. It mirrors the legends Europeans in the 15th and 16th centuries believed that would be found in regions of the world they were but starting to explore. They spoke of all load of wacky things, lands populated by people with no heads with the face on their chests, sea serpents and other monsters, not to mention - a bit later - El Dorado. Hell, Marco Polo who actually traveled through the Silk Road all the way to China, returned and told all sort of fantastic tall tales about things “he saw” in his journey (half bullshit, half exaggerations).
It fits perfectly with GRRM take on fantasy. I bet half of those things oughta end up being disappointing af. But there must be some dope stuff. I would be lying if didn’t told you that if I existed in there, I wouldn’t be signing up to check those “Forts” in the Far East, even though I would probably die of 15 different diseases not even a quarter-way through.
@@DesolatedChild018 except a lot of this stuff is confirmed as other commentators have pointed out; not all of it is left to legend and it isn't entirely an analog for England or Medieval Europe.
Those far South Eastearn Essos like Asshai, are probably based on India and Southeast Asia in real world. Where the black magic, necromancer influence is strong there.
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Westeros isn't a city and isn't really medievel either
"The basilisk isles are best avoided"
Everywhere on this planet seems best avoided tbh
Yeah, this world seems hellish.
Westeros seems to be a paradise compared to places like Sothoros or Asshai
@@gabrielteixeira7564 Westeros is the starting server for beginners apparently.
I wonder if praying to the Toad would protect
@@themcknox It's literally Lumbridge in Runescape
This video made Melisandre more cool to me. She literally went to the edge of the world and saw terrors behind imagination. Being in that darkness would make anyone worship a lord of light and pray for a sword that gets set on fire.
Agreed, i never cared much for her, just another fanatic worshipping one of countless gods in the world, but after all of this, and knowing where she went, she has a lot more depth to her by default
Melisandre is the best character in my eyes
Or make you want to summon Cthulhu
@@peacebuddha96Thelord of the Light just like the Dragons and the Others are inherently evil, Ik ASOIAF is more nuancedthan that usually but only because bec ause humans are nuanced I. T. Hat way. z. Gods and Monsters arenot.
@@josh10722ell hersisthe one true god so Catholocism
I think it’s important to keep in mind when thinking that Westeros must be very boring in comparison, that George RR Martin does a very realistic job of portraying foreign lands. A lot of these stories are speculative, and prone to exaggeration by sailors and adventurers. Westeros probably gets the same treatment in those distant places
Imagine hearing of a land conquered by white haired dragon riders that melted castles and send prisoners to guard the wall at the end of the world where the sons of lions and direwolves wage war along side the cliff cities of the vale and the lands of storms all for control of the iron throne a throne made from the melted swords of 1000s of defeated warriors
Sounds pretty magical doesn’t it
Yes exactly. People from Yi Ti likely think that the Lannisters have pet lions made of solid gold, that the north is guarded by a king with a wolf’s head, that people worship talking trees the size of a tower, etc.
Imagine someone in Asshai hearing about westeros: “in the westernmost continent called westeros, they are ruled by dragon lords who are said to be the last remnant of the fallen empire of Valyria. In the north of Westeros, there is said to be a giant wall made of solid ice which is 700ft tall. Beyond this wall little is known, but there are rumours of Ice demons and Ice dragons, and things worse than demons and dragons. There a tales of “children of the forest” which are similar to the tales of woods walkers near port of Ibben, similar to the Ibbenese, the children of the forest are said to have been drawn into hiding by “first men”. The north of Westeros is said to have once been ruled by “wolf kings” though it is said that the silver haired dragon lords conquered them.”
@@mrbiscuits001 i love how you tried to make westeros sound insane but everything you said was the truth it puts into prespective just how wild westeros is
The CGI budget can only handle 1/12th of RR. Martin’s imagination.
meh, if you look at it critically all of this is a rehash of things already existing, in fantasy worlds or the real world. I see nothing very original.
@@mignonthon “There is no such thing as a new idea. It is impossible. We simply take a lot of old ideas and put them into a sort of mental kaleidoscope. We give them a turn and they make new and curious combinations. We keep on turning and making new combinations indefinitely; but they are the same old pieces of colored glass that have been in use through all the ages.” - Mark Twain
To be fair, Even George RR himself can't fully explain these places.
@@codafett I think if he sat down to do it he could but prefers to keep it a mystery
@@doylelovil4188 well Mark Twain was boring
"When an ice dragon dies, they melt so nobody can find them."
Well isn't that convenient...
Tej Patel the same thing happens to the the others so their might be a connection
That ice dragon picture is dope af
George R.R. Martin also has a book called The Ice Dragon. It's a children's novel he wrote in 1980.
5280z007 makes sense thats why people were so scared of the ocean for centuries things that big could exist out there and there is never any way of knowing
Tej Patel 🤣🤣🤣
We need an epic RPG based on this lore. With a GIGANTIC map that lets us explore all these eldritch places
without magic? what's the point
There is already a game of thrones rpg.
mount and blade has probably the best game setup to make this happen...the mods that were made for that game of ice and fire were insanely good and they were made by fans...but the way how that game works and the world its perfect for this story
Well you got it
A world of ice and fire mod for Mount &Blade Warband
It's strange to me just how mystical the setting of asoiaf is. In the books (especially the first few) it feels like a typical medieval setting with little magic
I always got an impression that Westeros is a "non-magical" continent, it's just that all mythic stuff is situated elsewhere.
But then, it would be interesting to speculate WHY is it so mundane
@@jatoarkanen4435 how is it mundane? dragons,giants,forest spirits, the age of heroes, whites, random wargs,
@@GHOSTTIEF But all of these are considered mythic by Westerosi, aside from characters who directly interact with them
@@GHOSTTIEF Its pretty mundane. Take the dragons out and we have very little. Going from the show (I am not that far with the books) The giants and mammoths are forgotten so easily and then we got weirdos having a meal in a wolfs body. And I am not alone with that opinion. Nobody liked bran's story line
@Jato Arkanen it's more like magic has been gone from the world for a time
"Those events are crucial for the last season of game of thrones"
Haha-no.
JustFunkinDandy back when we thought there would be a epic ending with the Night King actually being a important and crucial character who would destroy entire wester..... aaaaand he got stabbed
originaler 31er yea he got stabbed, did you really expect him to kill everyone? I know it’s GOT and all but still they’re not gonna do it... the ending was satisfying , the only thing I wanted and didn’t happen is some white walker action 1v1ing major characters
@@user-tp5kv4nz6l I think he expected some pay off for the build up through the entire show, at least I did.
Dont get me wrong, the battle was visually stunning, but hot damn, story wise it was boring and uneventful as hell.
No important character died.
Literally nothing with prophecies(dont give me the 'blue eyes' crap).
No interaction between NK and Bran AT ALL(Bran is just a vegetable at this point).
No deeper look into NKs background.
And the big great threat that once nearly wiped out humans in westeros is defeated with butter knife.
Glorious, really.
JustFunkinDandy we have 3 more episode nothing is over yet, if it was the last episode than yes, it was disappointing but it was only the end of the first half of the season
Maybe so, but GoT has been in a rush to end since they got ahead of the books. Season 7 was a damn mess, people who love game of thrones love it for the lore and character development and interactions. 1 hour of fighting was nice for sure, but we dont want to see a rushed ending, we just want to experience this universe that GRRM has created. Last few seasons have been so poorly made, but atleast season 8 has been promesing so far. I really hope they dont fuck up the ending.
So your telling me that Cersei was excited to get elephants when there were zorses, wyverns, fricking dinosaur, unicorns, and etc?
And king Kong!
For her, elephants are just as exotic as the other creatures you mentioned
@@dejaumdjar5022 an ape that can kill an elephant one punch
They don't know how to control them except elephants
She never knew about any of them
Imagine you are living in YiTi and you here about the war of the five kings…. All the things that are happening in westeros are so insignificant for these people in the east. I hope we maybe find out more about Asshai in the next book, maybe Euron will talk about it or something like that.
I read once that people in Yi Ti believe that Westeros is home to a race of ‘half lion half men’ who lord over half the country; obviously, this refers to House Lannister and the details have been wildly lost in translation along the way. It’s fascinating to wonder what they must think is happening in Westeros. GRRM nails the way ancient civilisations relate to each other as being figures of legend and myth because of the distance involved so well
It's exactly how the Wars of the Roses in England affected the Ming Dynasty in China. Spoiler Alert: It really didn't,
Imagine if we got dragons that big in the show. That image of the ice dragon flying over a ship is terrifying. I wanna see that come to life.
even though its a kids movie httyd 2 had very big alpha dragons that breathe ice. Their fight is actually pretty cool too
A land far to the south where everything wants to kill you. So Sothoryos is Australia?
No, Australia is boring.
probably just the Southeast Asia countries like Malaysia/Indonesia and so on. They have tropical jungles with tons of weird and deathly animals lol
pappy If Western Essos is Europe and Westeros is Great Britain then it would make sense for Sothoryos to be Africa.
@@lolanya00 search "spoon snake" from garut, west java. No eyes, rattles and forms like a spoon, and concentrate its lairs near (suspected) oldest pyramid in the world (older than egypt's)
Sounds right, I mean, they were a peanal colony (if you spell it.like that)
I wonder if this is how Medieval peasants in Europe thought that Asia would be like this
Most peasants in Europe didn't even knew that Asia existed. There where a few travellars or merchants that had the knowledge of other places and people created alot of legends to justify dying at sea or by diseases thinking it was monsters or actions of god.
Yes, they thought of the East and Africa as places of exoticness and where incredible creatures live. It can be seen even today in the fantasy genres and other genres where the mysterious eastern lands are always depicted in the same misterious undertone (the "unknown"). One example is RR Martin with Sothoryos, Yi ti, Asshai and all the east being between myth and reality.
@@paulgotik
Peasants in Europe knew Asia existed. Simply, they did not care much and was seen as a land where wealth could be made and mistery. Most notable the Middle east is what they thought when Asia was brought to their mind. Conflict with the Turks and the trade with the levant were pretty much known by everyone and real in their daily lives. What they thought of this land was however highly distorted. Even in Roman times, people knew of Asia. Grafitti depict "strange animals" wonders displayed in the colosseums all over the empire, brought all the way from the depts of Asia and Africa (Rinos, tigers, etc...)
@@Alejojojo6 I mean they weren't that far off. Look at an elephant or gorilla and tell me that they don't look like monsters that us modern people have just gotten used too. Heck, look at the high tech ancient Chinese cities that were just dunking on the poop filled streets of medieval society in the west. The east kinda was something right out of legend
the romans thought that people south of the sahara had their head in their torso
It’s just amazing to me that all of this came from one man’s imagination. The world of Game of Thrones is so large it’s hard to imagine one person thought of all this.
The world of lord of the rings is bigger, with much deeper lore. That came from 1 man’s mind.
Well … am I wrong here? I would rather say from the minds of 2 men because Christopher Tolkien helped his father and put notes/ pieces together to publish more material after his fathers death. You don’t know how much GRRM still holds back or has planned … because he isn’t dead yet.
Easy to imagine fantasy when you copy it from other sources.
@@antibull4869 Every modern fantasy writer from the 19th/ 20th century copied stuff from diverse sources... for example ancient/ medieval writings and travel books frome Late medieval / early modern times. There is a Ton of fantasy in those sources... already starting with egypt, greek and roman mythology. You think Tolkien made everything just by himself? There are 1000 scholars that came before him and 1000 scholars that came after him. He was just really good at what he was doing.
@@fate2193 I mean George really borrowed heavily Tolkien made his own languages cant compare them. I’m not saying it’s wrong to take from other sources to create a new and grander story. personally I enjoy the lovecraft undertones of mystery and myth
I was wondering where I had read about “greasy, black stone carvings” when you mentioned Lovecraft and *BOOM* Call of Cthulhu!
Steven kings recent fantasy book which is out of character for him to write in the first.place pays homage to love craft in the depiction of a evil city and big bad that very much lovecraftian in nature it’s a great stand alone novel that basically boils down to a boy going on a adventure to save his dog and as per usual for the protagonist leadership is thrust upon him I would highly recommend it if your into fantasy it’s rare someone like Stephen king writes a book like this I would highly encourage you to read it if your into any of that the Book is Called Fairytale
This world needs a Witcher-type game.
I want a game where you can choose to play as one of the essos or westeros houses and each one gives you different abilities like dire wolves or dragons...Might be awesome
I'd love a massive open world game set in the universe. It would be cool to visit all the far away locations. My main fear though is that if something is revealed or if it's explained, a lot of the interest will be lost.
oogrooq Stygai, “where even the shadowbinders fear to tread”, but a witcher....
Would be a perfect way to show off the mysterious lands where no one would go.
J S we can only hope a game of that scale is released
or an open world MMO with ever expanding content like Guild Wars 2
My god, this stuff is interesting as hell. They seriously need to make a spinoff series about these cities and lands
there is already a spinoff in production
how is this called ?
Rapanoi the kat called the long night to take place 8,000 years before
Meh. I don't think it's a good idea since mystery is the biggest appeal of those lands, and you gotta take into account that most of those things are very exaggerated. Mention them in the show, yes - but don't actually show them.
@@user-ug2es5wt8b The show is just peaking now & they will have to stop growing since the show is over ....
My point is that its very rare for a show to end with so much momentum built up ... It would be nice if they capitalize on their momentum instead of cutting it off
It's interesting to see the similarities between the mythology of Yi Ti and Westeros. It would be hilarious if the stories of Yi Ti were just the stories of Westeros refracted west across the entire world back to Westeros.
Yi Ti is like China
Wouldn't really be "hilarious".
yeah been thinking the same. if the stories of westeros went across the world it would be like a mix of the whisper game and sending it through google translate. ''the wall protecting the kingdoms from the raiders in the frozen lands'' could turn into ''the fortifications protecting the lands from the bad beings in the white wastes'' if its translated to someone who can't/dont want to fully comprehend the concept of walls, kingdoms, freezing or seeing raiders as less than humans, kinda like how the dothraki call armour for metal dresses. after that its easily embellished or lost in translation to become ''five forts protecting the empire from the demons in the grey wastes''.
love how GRRM is able to make something interesting enough to think about but vague enough to speculate.
imagine the cruel and bad targaryens were the good and honorable ones and that the good ones were the horrible ones in yiti
@@kamalindseyyeah really lol.
18:48 I'm dying at the GRRM quote🤣
He's like, bruh what the fuck is up with people 😂
It's kinda sad going from this cool, interesting lore to the actual last season of GOT
It's impossible to put all this on a TV show, only (and barely) on a book saga
well if you want to know where half of this stuff came from read HP Lovecraft...
I don’t mind that they don’t mention a lot Far East Essos in the main books, but I would love Melisandre pov chapter talking about Asshai by the shadow, and maybe Stygai
If fans were hard-pressed enough, maybe offshoot stories could be written about these places, ala the Cthulhu mythos of comics and reference novels
What? That doesn't make any sense...
A song of Ice and Fire: I'm low fantasy.
The World of Ice and Fire: Hold my ale.
Low??
@@travishughes7221 Low fantasy as in its more like real world with few fantasy elements like ASOIAF. In contrast to high fantasy that have many elements of fantasy like magic,wizards; LoTR and Malazan for example
@@ann2574 we literally have sorcerers, warlocks, dragons and giants, lmao
@@slenderhatesmillennials195 Yeah. ASOIAF could be called low fantasy back when all we had was AGOT. Now we have an incoming zombie apocalypse and all of this stuff. High fantasy for sure.
@@Nai-qk4vp White Walkers appeared and were foreshadowed from the very beginning of the show, I don't get where this 'low fantasy' schtick comes from.
It’s so easy to forget that this is all fictional history (when you put aside the unicorns, basilisks, etc 😅)
Yeah, but at the same time human history is much crazier than we know. Ruins, giants, cryptids, ancient technology some of which more advanced than we have now, things we'd describe as magic....all real :)
I hope George gives us more information about Yi Ti, Sothoryos, and The Shadow in The Winds of Winter and A Dream of Spring; you can’t just create these vast, mysterious, end exotic locations within your own eon spanning history and only have them referenced in a single companion book and not in the main series. Even if the main character’s never see them in person I believe that Martin intends to at least have them referenced more directly in the coming books.
I feel like Yi Ti is the world's Empire of China.
@@billcipherproductions1789It obviously is. Martin really couldn't make it more blatant. While the wall in westeros references Hadrians wall, the 5 forts obviously represents the great wall
@@billcipherproductions1789 there’s supposed to be a spin-off show about Yi Ti
A couple also helped GRRM as well for the world building. They don’t get nearly enough credit
@@jakekers7480 I only hope that they are referenced more directly in the coming books as they are in The World of Ice and Fire.
That moment when you realize the entire plot of the books and show takes place in the LEAST interesting parts of this world...
Well, the world of men seems to exist between the two poles of powerful ice and fire magic. And ASOIAF just happens to take place at the edges of the ice lands. It could just as easily be about the politics of Yi Ti, and dark forces stirring beyond the Five Forts. There are basilisks and dragons there, but there are mammoths and giants in Westeros.
And that's about as good a characterization of England as any. :D
Westeros is the only interesting place... the rest of Essos is corky as fuck. Most of the rest is pretty dull actually. The entire fantasy world is not that imaginative, as is pretty much based on our world. Not talking about the unrealistic shape of the continents...
Wherever you may set your story, in whatever world, the place you see the most will always seem the least interesting. What we know from places far from Westeros is almost all hearsay, and even those tales that might have some accuracy will always be heavily embelished by the biases and imagination of whoever tells them. I wouldn't be surprised at all if most of the world outside of Westeros and the known parts of Essos is actually alot less fantastic and magical than we are led to believe. This is also why I'm glad we may never see stories set in those faraway places - I prefer the magic and mystery.
The book is great because the characters that are very interesting, the world is just weird enough for them to act in. They are relatable enough to us so we can understand and appreciate their drama and intrigues. If the plot of the books happen in those fantastical places, the characters would have no narrative room to be interesting, and it would just be another standard fantasy story.
ASX: "Events crucial for the final season of Game of Thrones."
HBO: "Well yes, but actually no."
Hahahahaha
It was all dumb Weiss and Dumber Benioff
Why are you blaming HBO?
The artwork and maps add so much to these videos. The guys that make them are very talented
"All of this is gonna play out in the final season" oh boy, how naive we were back then
I didnt realize Dany travelled such a great distance between S1 and 2
And after season 1, Cersei has travel nowhere except King's Landing
@@nont18411
Holy shit, you’re right.
Aside from the first season, she NEVER left King’s Landing
@@nont18411 that’s very interesting
@@AlwaysSomeone can’t bang Jaime anywhere else
Dany makes all the other travels look like a walk through the park. The girl be ridin'
Suddenly, white walkers seems like children’s play
Demons coming from a shadow land, who must be fought from monstrous fortresses by the World's greatest nation... yes, it does
Why do you think they kept the wall around so long? They nope'd out of all the other shit.
GRR Martin said, the Word of ASOIAF is circular
Fucking dinosaurs, man
@@xyro3633 best comment I've ever heard and to expand on
Dinosaurs are ass holes
And most people are askholes
You like that one askholes
Gonna say this, when I heard you say "Valyria's war against Ghis" I was not paying attention and I interpreted it as "geese". So, in my mind, all I could think about was the Valyrian dragon riders took to the skies as they went to war against mighty flocks of feral Swans.
Emu aggression rising
have you ever come into contact with a goose? they are cunts of things that hiss like cats and attack you on sight. the dragons wouldn't stand a chance.
@@RW77777777 Your reference was much more subtle than mine would have been. Good one.
Sothoryos would be such a good spinoff.
Just explorers going deeper and deeper into the jungle to see all of the crazy shit in there.
Or centered around Nymeria's venture to locate the other end of Sothoryos.
Its like Lustria of warhammer fantasy. Basilisks, dinosaurus, king kong, lizardmen. What more do you need
Exactly what I was thinking while watching.
HBO needs to give us a Sothoryos exploration spin-off.
Or Arya exploring Sothoryos and Essos, all these places
Some things are better left unseen or just shortly mentionned. Most of the time, when they are fully unveiled and overexplained, it result in disappointment because it loose all his appealing mystery.
Kinda sounds like Kong Island. Same premise
So basically what's happening in Westeros is very insignificant....
Pretty much
Nah, night king seeks to take over all the living lands and erase them.
We just learned that "The Long Night" is also a huge cataclysm that can also end the East. So if the Knight King wins, he gonna move on to the rest of the world with an unstoppable army. So, the "Game of Thrones" part is insignificant as to who rules the 7 kingdoms but not the Knight King, he's one of the or the most important character in that world.
@@alexbaker4518 But there must always be a Lich King to prevent the scourge from taking over..
Yeah like it states that the long night and that entire myth seems to be on a global scale AND HOLY MOLY ITS A REINCARNATION, so either the humans win and everything goes good, or they lose the cycle is restarted and that kingdom is destroyed
"Animal human hybrids"
*Alex Jones turns head*
lol why did i laugh at this..I can hear alex jones screaming at the top of his fear mongering...I told you!
Alex Jones :the frogstatue is gay
Jaakov Tobman stop putting black oil stone in the water YOU TURN THE FRIGGIN FROG GAY!!!
Its the cia turning frogs gay
more like Al Gore
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The East has been more mysterious since the start. In the first ASoIaF book, first they give you two maps, "The North" and "The South", showing most of Westeros up to the Wall with place names and stuff, then you get the prologue and two Stark chapters, and then BAM there's a Dany chapter in Pentos and if it's 1996 you might spend an hour squinting at the two provided maps before realizing it's not on them
If HBO was smart they would capitalize on the rich lore of the game of thrones universe and start cranking out mini-series about all the crazy shit that we don't see in game of thrones. If they play their cards right they could potentially have as many characters and story lines as the Star wars universe.
Since they ruined the main franchise, good luck with that.
@@loloverlord1664 that lol
They already are. There is a Yi Ti animated show planned.
Not a good idea. It will make the east way less interesting
@@loloverlord1664 That was purely the writers, not HBO. HBO offered them as many seasons as needed, but D&D refused.
“Yeen, a city so evil the jungle won’t enter”
Proceeds to show off a city overflowing with jungle
the jungle is around the buliding, not "over taking" it like it normally do to abandoned places
The jungle has not grown in the soil of the city or covered the building in vines and shrubberry
there are no artist renditions of yeen so its the best we have
It means wildlife mate not the flora
@@joeyrozic1100 that is an artist rendition of Yeen. The piece is literally called "Yeen" by Thomas Hiebler and is taken from a GOT artbook called "Unseen Westeros" which was authorised by GRRM. They have awesome artwork from all over Westeros and Essos check it out if you are interested :)
So Westeros is most boring part of all world !?
Arkham Wrath apparently so
Sure sounds like it. Bare in mind that all this could be myths as well. As alt shift x said: the story is somewhat written by maesters (and they are only in Westeros right?)
the far east is kind of like what the medieval europeans imagined how the rest of the world looked like.
Yup
All the magical stuff was pushed beyond the wall
I really, REALLY hope we get to visit Asshai at some point in the books, or Stygai. It’s just too fascinating to skip out on
Thing is, no one in the story actually will go there. Daenerys going to Qarth was as far east as we will get
Just read Conan The Barbarian, literally what this has all been inspired by.
@@OrangeNotLemonLimewhere do i start?
@MarcosJ chronicles of Conan, 50 year anniversary edition.
The Robert E Howard's writing style is insane, one of the best I've ever encountered.
@@SantomPh I think Daenerys is supposed to go to Asshai at some point.
"These questions are central to the final season of Game of Thrones..." Good God did this ever hurt to hear on a rewatch binge.
All this is in the books? Jesus man I never realized how big and interesting their world is.
There isn't a budget big enough to make a show about it.
@@Sgt-Wolf what if an animated show
@@asishhar357
Animation still cost money.
Wild donut has made an appearance
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Omg didn’t expect to see you here. Pretty cool tho :)
I wish they would make a high budget series of short stories about places like sothyros and the far east. I'm sure I'm not the only one that would absolutely love that
I’m always coming back to this video and think the same thing every time. What I would give to see these places translated to screen.
even if martin where to publish an in world book detailing these far east lands
Although I'm happy, and very excited by what we're getting, I'm definitely a bit jealous of the parallel version of me who lives in the timeline where, instead of setting Elden Ring in The Land Between, Miyazaki-san chose to set the game _in_ the The World of Ice and Fire
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Maybe in Sothoryos, or the very Far East.
I don't know. I'm picturing a Souls-style game where you get to explore the Five Forts for... whatever reason.
Yes.
Do we actually know what's north of the wall? Like, is there eventually an ocean or something? Because presuming the world of aSoIaF is a sphere, westeros could be directly connected to Yi Ti through the north pole. If they are connected than somewhere in between their two walls would lay wherever the Others call home. This could be why they both have a magic wall and a strikingly similar long night story despite being across the world from each other.
So far it's pretty much like the North kingdom, ice, rocks, trees and nearly no sunlight. Hardhome is as northerly as any book people have gone, and it was hell on earth at one time. Rickon is said to be on Skagos, the northernmost island of Westeros with Osha.
The Land of Always Winter is said to be where the Others (white walkers) come from, but no one has actually seen it.
This is actually so smart! Why didn't I think of that lol, I've lived on a round planet my entire life.
A polar land bridge, that could be the home of the White Walkers...that makes so much sense...!
George Martin has explicitly confirmed Westeros and Essos are not connected by any land. Perhaps they were once, but they aren't anymore.
George RR Martin has given enough for 100 years of film making!
I hope not. They already butchered Westeros and should keep their greedy uncultured hands off of essos and the rest of ASOIAF
Only if the fans make them. That's really the future of filmmaking anyway.
@@maxwest6595 An understanding and appreciation for the source material doesn't ensure good filmmaking, but it could certainly help it.
Which is sort of the problem season 8 of the show had, it felt like D&D fell out of love with the show they were charged with making. The show had the years of prior context, of hundreds of scenes building up and breaking down the characters, but rather than write a smooth conclusion; they decided to rush it because they evidently wanted to move onto different projects.
But I'd argue most fans - even some of the most knowledgable -should never be allowed behind a camera, unless you know the source material and it's many facets beyond any doubt, and I'd argue D&D didn't.
And WHO is gonna Imagine all that stuff? I Bet not martin
Personally, I don't George RR Martin will live to complete this. Too many moving parts.
I’ve always found Essos more interesting than Westeros from a world building and historical standpoint. Would love to learn more about Sothoryos and see someone actually end up there in the books.
Just read Conan the Barbarian then, because it's literally Essos, where GRRM obviously a lot of the idea from.
Plus like GRRM, Robert E Howard's writing style on Conan, is truly excellent.
@@OrangeNotLemonLime Plus Lovecraft
@@kyle857 💯
bro half of the world only seems interesting because you dont know shit about it, thats the truth
@@OrangeNotLemonLimeyeah and that’s also why mos f the gods besides The Lord of the Light (which I don’t think is hard to pinpoint who that represents) are all Lovvecraftia . The Conan gods are similar in that way because the two writers were good friends and contributed to each others work and mythos
It's amazing how many Lovecraftian elements you can spot in Martin's work.
Please make more videos like this!! I've watched this video so many times! I'm obsessed with lore and I know so many other people are too!
"These questions are central to the final season of game of thrones... and the war to end the long night' - oh, I wish they were
It seems the only central thing was Arya deciding which hand to Stab the night king with
Videos like this are why I follow Alt Shift X
idk what i'm gonna do with myself when GoT is over. all the speculation is half the fun of the series. i hope he continues with Winds of Winter and Dream of Spring.
Agree
Exactly what I was saying.
Whycreate already did it, but ok.
Don't forget the prequels. The Long Night is coming.
This is my favourite alt shift X video, I have watched half a dozen times. Absolutely love it
This is absolutely one of my favourite ASX videos that I keep coming back to just to listen.
"What caused the Long Night? What ended it? These questions are central to the final season of Game of Thrones."
DnD: "LMAO IT DIDN'T MEAN ANYTHING!!!" *Dabs*
What ends the long night ? Assassin's Creed leap assassination except the assassin fuCKING SCREAMS.
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@Bryson Reins no he won't. The suffering, the hopeful, tortured expectations of his millions of fans feeds and nourishes his giant gut and humongous butt.
And he will die and take the Farts of Winter and a Wet Dream of Spring to his xxxl grave.
Suffer, all ye who trusted the untrusty.
@Bryson Reins as per my daily Google news feed, guess what the exceedingly corpulent feller gloatingly revealed to his fans?
There's been yet another- drum roll- DELAY in the Farts of Winter and it may not be available in 2020.
Daily Guardian, I think the news source was.
@Bryson Reins I don't know - but then, it's all the fault of the "toxic fans", and the obese gentleman doesn't owe his fan base anything in return for making him a household name, isn't it?
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Keep in mind - the descriptions of eastern Essos and Sorhoryos mentioned here come predominantly from Westerosi maesters, and do not necessarily reflect the the actual characteristics or histories of these places. Martin is intentionally recreating the relationship between Europe (specifically Britain) and Asia / Africa in the Middle Ages, when descriptions of “barbarian” lands were sensationalized, conflicting, and often plain myth.
Yes! And it only makes them more interesting
Yea dont forget that there are ice demons, dragons, giants, forest children and wargs in westeros alone. So I dont doubt anything in essos
yeah "ice dragons" sound like ice bergs to me, it's really cool to look at it and winder what its real world counter parts are
What the fuck do you know about what he thinks? Maybe it's just a coincidence and you're just letting your own hate on the very people who have given you everything, influence how you view the world of game of thrones.
Bruh who hurt you@@aurelia8028
I keep coming back to this video as I enjoy your presentation of the information. Its a source of comfort for me.
I'm new to this channel, but I think this is the best video I've watched so far. You made a perfect compilation of all the crazy things in Essos
“Look! An Ice Dragon!”
“WHERE!”
“It melted!”
So many places filled with stories we will prob never see.
You could imagine them. Its the enxt best thing.
We’ll never see them because they never happened. They’re stories, they’re myths. You think everything that happened in the bible really happened?
@@jimmymcgill2961 why do you even mention the bible lol
Mayhaps it was a blessing.
Had they been on the show, they would have been written by D&D
There are thousands of good fantasy books, get out there and read, its good for your brain!
This is great! I love the lore behind this story, watching the Histories & Lore bonus features are something I rewatch regularly, this will be added to my list when I need a ASoIaF lore hit 😂 Fantastic job putting all of this together. There were details even I haven’t caught.
Westeros really reminds me of England in a lot of ways.
Meanwhile the south looks to be a reimagined India and the east is similar to our own Europe. Valyeria is kinda like Rome while the Dothraki are like the nomadic tribes that moved in after its fall. Then Mussovy sounds and looks a lot like “Muscovy” or Russia. Then there are the Mongols, the people who ride zorses, and then China.
What I think would be cool is that the world of game of thrones might have been circumnavigated by the reimagined Chinese Empire who went on to build all of those cool towers and structures - possibly with them all being linked and the north being one huge ice cap that is passable so the white walkers are in theory trapped between Essos and Westeros in the ice caps.
Westeros war of five kings is literally war of roses and there’s a lot of Irish mythology
the Dothraki are definitely based off of the mongols with how they are the best fighters in the series and they all ride horses and wear light armor
Are you referring to sothorys as India? Are you a peasant from medieval europe?
Sothoryos is Africa, I don't think India is here. And Westeros is Europe in general
@@danielshepard2315Yeah, Dothraki are based on Mongols/Huns and the Lannisters are based on the Borgias. That War of Roses video really did a number on people.
Always wanted to hear more about this part of the world.
Yankees
It's my favorite section of World of Ice and Fire. The first time I read it I skipped to the back of the book so I could read about the far east of Essos first. So much fascinating world building there.
Pick up The World of Ice and Fire, its fantastic
This is why I want GRRM to allow people to write in his universe similar to what Lucas did with the Star Wars EU. Especially since GRRM doesnt seem to want to finish his own fucking series.
Kevin Lockhart that would be so badass.
Oh boy. I have missed you, my man.
Hello Future Me Hail Mishka!
Why did I get the feeling you followed this man. Greatness attracts greatness!
Mishka!
Hail Mishka!
I think azor ahai might be a metaphorical representation of The Sun. you know. the golden light that finally, finally broke through the airborne ash of the "long night" [nuclear winter], thus ending it and quite literally bringing back the dawn. the spring.
One of my favourite videos of all time. Have watched it easily in excess of 50 times. Great work.
This is why I love George R.R. Martin. He really knows how to build an amazing world and keep it mysterious enough for us to always come back and want more. He literally just created an entire continent (Ulthos) for no reason other than to have us realize that we can never learn everything about a world when you're exploring it through the eyes of the people who live there.
He is wicked!
Well said. What an imagination to have though, not only the different parts of the world but the people, languages and creatures. They could make some great prequels with this stuff, I know I would watch it.
it is very much inspired by the real human history.
Always making the wait for the next season that bit more bearable
Creeeeps
*wait for the next book/Martin's death
Heyyyy
*book
Omg is this a crossover episode?
The fact that Ariya was initiated to the faceless society then imagine what Ashaii can do once you're initiated to their kingdom of mysteries just imagine...
You have more chance to die by water/ food poisonning, or becoming human sacrifice than becoming the new psychic edgelord of Ice and Fire
I had no idea eastern lands are so fascinating and cool.
Its actually amazing that all of this stuff comes from one man's mind
Night King: *Comes south of the Wall*
Me: *Books first class, one way ticket from Kings Landing to Yi Ti*
Peace out, Westeros.
Yea, but what if the five forts fall
Alek Martinez I dunno man, those 5 Forts seem a lot more trustworthy than a molten ice wall.
Dziordan1 Took me a good minute to get the joke. xD
@Krok Krok
Shut up, it exists. Fucking Lannister sounding pseudointellectual.
I remember reading a lot of fantasy as a kid and being absolutely enthralled by the world and lore of whatever it was I was reading. I would literally lie awake in bed after visiting the library, and I would imagine myself fighting lizard-men and sailing around islands covered in exotic jungle. When I slept, I prayed that I would dream of these adventures so I could live them out in full every night before school.
Now that I'm older, it's been a LONG time since I've experienced that same feeling of wonder and mystery that I felt when I was a kid, but this video is the first time in perhaps FIFTEEN YEARS that I felt that familiar feeling stir within me from long ago.
It's kind of weird, but I want to thank George Martin and your channel for reminding me what it felt like to be a kid again who didn't have to worry about things like jobs, and girls, and money, and for whisking me away to these exotic, untouchable places for 23 minutes and 13 seconds. Maybe I'll dream about it again tonight, just for old time's sake.
I’m glad you got to experience that feeling again, and I hope you find it again!
This was too damn wholesome
I have similar vibe now by playing elden ring... This world is complex
Its not like usual RPG, everything is so hostile there
This is literally the reason I love reading books. I’m always lost in my own world
“These questions are central to the final season of Game of Thrones”
Oh if only…
"These questions are central to the final season of Game of Thrones" *ha*
Kind of wish the white walkers would win just to see how they would deal with the rest of the world ?
AkadeProductions They can’t swim though
Alaïa Demons found a way to invade Yiti during the last long night so who knows?
Alaïa I feel like they would make a raft of corpses and swim to yi ti
@@alaia-awakened cut trees and form rafts, zombies act as connections
yeah, white walkers suck...the first battle they have they lose.
Without your channel, I never would have never gotten interested in the series and read all of the books! Love your videos so much!!
I have bought and read all the books for the same reason. I am reading Fire and Blood by a third out it, all because of this channel.
Learning Game Of Thrones lore made me realize that probably one of the only reason GOT is compared to Lord Of the Rings (other than George R.R Martin's whole statement about taxes and all) is because of the on-screen adaptations, because GOT actually reminds me far more of Conan the Barbarian lore if anything.
one of my comfort vids for some reason, even though i havent watched the show or read the books. most of my exposure was through this channel, lol
Dark and gloomy in summer! No crowds! No kids! What are the property prices like in Asshai?
Yeah but you have to get a loan from the Iron bank, and if you can’t pay they will send a faceless assassin
I would Imagine they are quite reasonable, all that real estate and not a huge demand.... hmmmm might have to look into that 😂
Right 😂
Add in that you need to wear a mask, because of dark magic smog, there are necromancers and bloodmages aka that's why kids ain't on the streets and you need to travwl throught the *Far steange East* to even get there.
But hey, I would like to live there too. I wnould like to leaen some of that dark magic they have
You must resent your father
You: bad vibe
Me, an intellectual: malignant aspect
Crappy feeling
This is such an underrated comment
I wish I could like this more than once
There is so many more stories to tell in this magical world, I love it!
Fantastic comprehensive video this was EXACTLY what I was looking for
Maybe Westeros and the lands of Yi Ti are connected through the lands north of the wall.
Kinda like Russia and the US up by Alaska.
Could explain how they both supposedly got attacked by white walkers all that time ago.
And if the Yi Ti are indeed so much stronger it would make sense for The Others to attack Westeros first and grow their army.
Idk just an idea.
Well, that makes sense. I wish GRRM could continue writing for another 40 years to explain everything for us. (Actually 40 years means like 4 more books at his speed but hey, it's something!)
There's actually a time loop fic that makes use of that idea to great effect, it's called Purple Days, Hell, it made Joffery awesome
@@darkzerothe1 really?
I'll check it out, thanks for the recommendation man!
I'm still reading the first book lol, got sick of the stupid TV series and realized I really missed GRRM way of storytelling.
Felix Andersen what if... the NK is just one race of the White Walkers,... pretty soon Jon andthe wildlings will find out that there are many races of the Others and Undead Kings and the land of always winter connects to as far as Ashai.
Yi Ti is basically a jungle version of China or simply Southeast Asia, meaning it's probably really overpopulated. That would be the only reason why the White Walkers wouldn't have attacked them first, because when you can oppose at least one million people against a bunch of frozen things, it's really not that easy for them to win.
I really hope the spin-off series shows Sothoryos and goes to other areas than Westeros and Western part of Essos.
Omygerddddd is there gonna be a spinoff?😱😱😱 im gonna loose my shit if there is
What spin off????????????????!!!!
@@mystupidfacebook theres a spin off thats officialy already in production. Google it
@@franvjscisjw1793 Probably is about Duncan and Egg and not eastern Essos or southern islands south of Valeria.
@@John333Scout i remember Reading that it Will be set in westeros 5000 years before asoiaf
The pictorial and narration of this video was amazing I enjoyed it immensely and would love to see more from Both group entities that Led to this fine creation
I see a lot of people talking about the Maester's biais, but most characters who use actual magic in the show (like Melisandre) come from the far East.
That one warlock of the house of the undying is in Qarth, which is extremely to the East.
So while there might be biaises and exaggerations, I think the East is still much more magical than Westeros.
4:10 - "They have some charming local customs - like piling the skulls of their enemies on an island as an offering to some Duck God"
I'm pretty sure he said dark but now i can only imagine a monolithic rubber duck statue adorned with flower necklaces and skulls and candles 😂😂😂😂
21:46 "ancient peoples, uncomfortable race undertones..." LOL
DUCKS FOR THE DUCK GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL ISLAND!
Blood for the blood god. Skulls for the skull throne.
Got any gwapes?
Ah, nostalgia. To think that the white walkers actually had motives and mystic backstory in the beginning of the tv-series. I hope we get to see more of that in the unreleased books.
I still wish Martin keeps them like it started. They were the scariest when we didn't know anything about them just an aimless army of undead creatures. Horror is always about the fear of the unkown. It's really good if a bad character has motivation and not just bad because he/she/it bad, but there are a lot of bad characther in this world with good motivatons and i really liked the white walkers like i said.
Imagine a tv series about surviving Valyrians that went to these places
so a horror series where no one survives basically?
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Carcosa & the Yellow Emperor aren't from Lovecraft, they are from an older series by RW Chambers that center around an accursed play, "The King in Yellow", and reading its contents could drive the reader mad. There is a song in Act 1, Scene 2, "Cassilda's Song", that references the city of Carcosa. And indeed, Carcosa itself comes from an earlier source, a story by Ambrose Bierce called "An Inhabitant of Carcosa"
yes, like Georges said, pretty obscure. But the King in Yellow got somehow linked to the ctulhu mythos in many ppl minds.
Aurora Borealis? At this time of year? At this time of day? In the far north? Localized entirely in the arctic waste?
Simpson reference?
@@sotetsotetsotetsotetsotet2379 no
Sebastian Hernandez Well, Bran, you’re an odd fellow. But I must say... you steam a good ham.
@@henrytep8884 Yeah, when Skinner invited Chalmers to dinner
@@djrbmm lol, thanks. I remember now. Simpson was great in the 90s, so we're most of the shows.
Just to expand on the Wyverns:
It is heavily implied these creatures are the reason “humans” or civilizations are not found on the Southern Continent since the Wyverns are the dominant species. Given the medieval weapons in this world, humans would not have the firepower to completely dominant Wyverns.
Despite them not being dragons, they are bloodthirsty creatures that will hunt and attack humans or sentient beings on site. A true man-eater.
Brindled Wyverns can grow up to 30 feet.
Swamp Wyverns are implied by their name to nest in swamps but they do not venture too far form their lair, thus making them the least threatening type.
The shadow winged Wyvern have black scales to hunt at night and are practically invisible in the dark. They are the most feared.
The most dangerous kind are the type of Wyvern are called Brownbellies. They hunt in packs of 100 or more.
They are as small as monkeys but are considered the most dangerous due to their sheer number and their smaller surface area makes it harder to escape and hide from them.
Imagine having flying insects as big as monkey that wanna eat you....and they hunt in packs.
A Septon wrote a book theorizing that Wyverns either were the product of Valayrian blood magic or that they existed already, but were used as a base for creating dragons. I peronsally believe the latter since Wyverns are pretty much dragons but cannot breathe any fire and more crude looking.
This also can lead to a theory that some of the creatures on the Southern Continent were made by old Blood Magic.
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I keep coming back to this video ever so often. The world is so big and interesting. I hope we get to see this world on screen whether it’s a show, movie or even a game
I come to re-watch this video every now and again. It's one of my favourite ASOIAF videos because it's such an interesting topic. But also I could listen to your voice for hours. I don't mean to sound creepy but you just have a very relaxing voice haha
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Me, listening to this video without necessarily watching the screen the entire time: “...the Valyrians fought geese?”
@pygmyrhino990 Australia declared war on emus. People just don't get it, birds are just biding their time, humans, Apex predators... Yeah. Sure ..
@@RoosterFloyd Australia LOST* a war against emus
They fought the empire of Ghis, which is 6000 years older than valyria and used to rule Essos
@@arturofernandez4058 Our farmers won it in the end thanks to bounties.
@@mojowwwav4357 the geese weren't able to deal with a guerilla offensive.
Ine of the reasons why I love fanfics where authors decide to explore places outside Westeros, even for just a bit. There's so much strange and wonderful places to explore.
do you have any recommendations? and where to read them? I'd really appreciate it
@@amber3244 Purple Days
you could look up all the references grrm hid out there and read those stories!
Fan fics just make a shitty mess of something that's better left mysterious.
Forget Westeros I want to see all THIS. I'd even be willing to read a fanfic of it....
I’ve watched this video at least a dozen times, never gets old
One of your most interesting videos to date. Great work.
you do know that he literally just cuts together the illustrations and reads the quotes from teh book "the world of ice and fire", right? Its not like he had to research that stuff heavily or anything. Not that I would not enjoy that kind of stuff, but lay the honor where it is actually due.
darillio What’s the point of this reply?
Worth bearing in mind that all of this is presented through the lens of Westeros, and is mostly based on hearsay. It seems like George RR Martin has hugely exaggerated the mysticism and fantastical elements of far off lands, to represent how people of Westeros would view the distant and unknown places that they have little contact with.
Chances are if any GoT scenes were set in these eastern places, they'd be a lot more grounded in reality!
No, Piss off with your logic, let me believe in the Lizard men of Sothoryos! and all the other weird shit that goes down in the non filmed places.
Similar to how old European explorers use to say that it rained snakes in Far East asia.
George rr Martin has confirmed this. He talked about this book being based the whole medieval idea's of 'here be dragon' But of course because it is fantasy some of its true.
I don't know.... If things like white walkers, children of the forests, and dragons exist in the show then I don't see why what was described in the video would not exist?
@@bwignite24 Funny thing is, we see all these places as being strange and forget that the people of Westeros worship trees and drowned gods, defend a giant wall in the North built by men and small leaf people to stop wild folk and others from passing and were ruled by dragon Kings and Queens who practised incest. Suddenly lnsect people and death gods from the East don't seem so abnormal.
Best voice over I heard so far ,nice tone , very informative,love a good back story and other information that creates the illusion of an entire world with history, thanks x.