He’s Nearly 30 And Engaged To My Teen With Braces

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  • čas přidán 16. 05. 2024
  • Jean says her 17-year-old daughter, Cheyenne, was the all-American girl -- a cheerleader, track star and straight-A honor student -- until she began dating Josh, a 28-year-old divorced father. Dr. Phil takes a look at Josh’s history -- should Jean be concerned? (2213001)
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  • @marathonbleu
    @marathonbleu Před 15 dny +1166

    When she turns 28 she’s gonna realize just how weird this is

    • @judithmiller7308
      @judithmiller7308 Před 15 dny

      Yep, GROOMED
      With his criminal record this sounds like the Mica Miller tragedy.

    • @cfietz2010
      @cfietz2010 Před 15 dny +17

      Absolutely!!

    • @NH-tb2sm
      @NH-tb2sm Před 15 dny +65

      By the time she's 28 he will have dumped her already.

    • @nastybigJim
      @nastybigJim Před 15 dny

      She is 26-27 now I found her on Facebook she’s married to someone else and has kids edit also on her wedding pic with her mother he mother appears to have had a stroke.

    • @RindaJane
      @RindaJane Před 15 dny +44

      ​@@NH-tb2smmost definitely. At 28 she will be too old for him. Sick 😫

  • @CJ-tf5yd
    @CJ-tf5yd Před 15 dny +804

    My father would take this guy to another planet.

  • @morgandubie
    @morgandubie Před 15 dny +936

    Citing your favorite color as having something in common is the most childish thing I’ve heard in a long time hahahah

    • @lindz916
      @lindz916 Před 14 dny

      Yeah she is much less mentally and emotionally mature than a typical 17 year old. I'd bet money she had some type of mental disability.

    • @nikirrae8495
      @nikirrae8495 Před 10 dny +20

      I couldn’t even control my reaction when she said that lol. Like wow, so deep.

    • @morgandubie
      @morgandubie Před 10 dny +3

      🤣😂 right?!

    • @McKelT
      @McKelT Před 9 dny +3

      🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @klz9500
      @klz9500 Před 7 dny +6

      😢 but what's your favorite color? I need a bestie

  • @lauramclaine504
    @lauramclaine504 Před 15 dny +807

    The concerning thing with her is, she’s not even mature for even a 17-year-old. She’s more like a 12-year-old and for her not to be concerned about his past marriage, abuse, and the fact that she would be a stepmom to a child that’s not even hers at such a young age hopefully he’ll let her go to college so she can grow up.

    • @mimiruss8444
      @mimiruss8444 Před 15 dny

      College doesn’t make you grow up for most of these kids. It just makes them stupider.

    • @jilliangrannon1939
      @jilliangrannon1939 Před 15 dny +37

      He is just as immature. Like he seems slow AF. She's also slow and doesn't see it.

    • @SinFinkleflor
      @SinFinkleflor Před 15 dny +11

      predators like that

    • @marylamb9708
      @marylamb9708 Před 13 dny +23

      @@jilliangrannon1939 She's an honor student.
      He's deliberately keeping her a child as part of his grooming.

    • @s.k.m.8756
      @s.k.m.8756 Před 12 dny +20

      I agree. Her emotional development is not at par for a 17-yr-old.

  • @kathconserv
    @kathconserv Před 15 dny +494

    She has the mental clarity of a 10 year old and he a 9 year old.

    • @julielasater2448
      @julielasater2448 Před 15 dny

      You're giving these two idiots way too much "age" on them for acting like toddler! I would have said maybe 2 or 3!

    • @The_Food_Police
      @The_Food_Police Před 5 dny +1

      Maybe they're made for each other then 😂

    • @rrrealqueen
      @rrrealqueen Před 4 dny

      "But His favorite color is orange and i like oranges! My favorite gumpack is flavored that"

  • @gailwebb9619
    @gailwebb9619 Před 15 dny +390

    This creeps me out for lots of reasons……he is WAY too old for her and she is very immature for 17. She talks like she is around 12.

    • @deroffene-fenster-wahnsinn1326
      @deroffene-fenster-wahnsinn1326 Před 10 dny +11

      I thought the same thing. She's acting like a child and she also looks younger than 17.

    • @ginmill5280
      @ginmill5280 Před 7 dny

      @@deroffene-fenster-wahnsinn1326is she autistic? I am,she acts and talks like she’s on the spectrum

    • @DavidThomas-me6pi
      @DavidThomas-me6pi Před 7 dny +2

      Were YOU a virgin at 17?

    • @gailwebb9619
      @gailwebb9619 Před 7 dny +4

      @@DavidThomas-me6pi Why are you asking such a question?

    • @DavidThomas-me6pi
      @DavidThomas-me6pi Před 7 dny +2

      @@gailwebb9619 exactly. So you were not a virgin at 17 but you want her to be?

  • @neurodivergentautie
    @neurodivergentautie Před 15 dny +567

    Chris Hansen & Steve Wilkos, Where Are You?

    • @jet4653
      @jet4653 Před 15 dny +13

      Yes! Steve is awesome

    • @sweetsjohnson8573
      @sweetsjohnson8573 Před 15 dny +5

      Ok where y'all at 😮

    • @YoutubeUser-mb2oz
      @YoutubeUser-mb2oz Před 14 dny +2

      Don't play that game here, in a few months when she's 18, none of this is going to be relevant.

    • @buzzzzzz69
      @buzzzzzz69 Před 14 dny +10

      ​@@CZcamsUser-mb2oz
      You mean when she's about to give birth to his baby & he's nowhere to be found so her parents have to look after her & her unwanted child.

    • @RescueAlwaysOfficial
      @RescueAlwaysOfficial Před 12 dny +1

      Tell me about it!

  • @mari_e2676
    @mari_e2676 Před 15 dny +273

    Playground and stuffed animals? This feels so off.

    • @amandalidey329
      @amandalidey329 Před 8 dny +4

      Very off.

    • @brennathecatlover4360
      @brennathecatlover4360 Před 6 dny +1

      Not necessarily if she likes to go there and hang and adults do like stuffed animals but it would be different if she was an adult and they did those things

  • @chriseggleston7573
    @chriseggleston7573 Před 15 dny +405

    He will not allow her to attend college. Nope.

    • @amandalidey329
      @amandalidey329 Před 8 dny +25

      I can guarantee u, she will not be allowed to go to college If she stays with him. He would get in the way of her building a future for herself.

    • @clittle10301
      @clittle10301 Před 6 dny +9

      A pervert I know who’s done this doesn’t want his victim to go to college. I bet she doesn’t go.

    • @deeboy84gradybaby24
      @deeboy84gradybaby24 Před 3 dny +1

      Right he won't want her to wake up and find someone her own age

  • @puddysue
    @puddysue Před 15 dny +401

    She isn't even mature enough to think up a good lie when she needs it.

    • @amybess
      @amybess Před 13 dny +2

      That's a teenager for ya
      Also, this episode is old

    • @brennathecatlover4360
      @brennathecatlover4360 Před 6 dny +3

      @@amybesswhen I was 17 I could come up with a better lie

  • @wotintheworld
    @wotintheworld Před 14 dny +243

    The playground for a first date with a child, that's a stomach curdling thought.

  • @BobbieXxoo
    @BobbieXxoo Před 14 dny +206

    His son is 5 years old…. 2 years from being 7…. the AGE he met HER!!! This is sick on way too many levels!!!

    • @lonewolfclique1815
      @lonewolfclique1815 Před 12 dny +9

      His son is 15 now this episode aired 10 years ago . I wonder if there is an update on them.

    • @amandalidey329
      @amandalidey329 Před 8 dny +1

      She's young enough to be his daughter.

    • @lanceneol865
      @lanceneol865 Před dnem

      ​@amandalidey329 so he had a kid at 11? Lol it's bad but it's not that bad

  • @SASunflower07
    @SASunflower07 Před 10 dny +186

    This is one of the reasons why Dad's are important.

  • @oliviawalter5583
    @oliviawalter5583 Před 7 dny +89

    This was aired in 2014. She is married and has children with a different man

    • @TheLauratkd
      @TheLauratkd Před 4 dny +14

      Where did you find this information?!

    • @analisaacosta974
      @analisaacosta974 Před 3 dny +10

      This was the comment I was looking for! Thank God for that!

    • @oliviawalter5583
      @oliviawalter5583 Před 3 dny +13

      @@TheLauratkdI dug deep onto Reddit and found her Facebook lol

    • @oliviawalter5583
      @oliviawalter5583 Před 3 dny +10

      @@TheLauratkd her name is Cheyenne Kiona Martin

    • @TheLauratkd
      @TheLauratkd Před 3 dny

      @@oliviawalter5583 Send a link?

  • @songbirds3712
    @songbirds3712 Před 15 dny +240

    She is very immature!! After watching and listening to her, she comes across as 15, not 17!

    • @ameliajoel6427
      @ameliajoel6427 Před 15 dny +32

      I was thinking 12

    • @songbirds3712
      @songbirds3712 Před 15 dny

      @@ameliajoel6427 I’m good with that!

    • @Kira7London-Spencer
      @Kira7London-Spencer Před 14 dny +19

      I was more mature at 14 than this. I'd say she's 11 or 12

    • @songbirds3712
      @songbirds3712 Před 14 dny +4

      @@Kira7London-Spencer definitely! She has a lot of growing up to do if she wants to live peacefully in this world!

    • @s.k.m.8756
      @s.k.m.8756 Před 12 dny

      @@ameliajoel6427 I was thinking the same thing.

  • @YourDarksideGuide
    @YourDarksideGuide Před 12 dny +86

    She doesn’t act her age at all which makes it worse she acts like she’s 12.

  • @gloryakiepper7918
    @gloryakiepper7918 Před 15 dny +205

    Go to college and when you graduate see if you still feel the same way.

    • @YoutubeUser-mb2oz
      @YoutubeUser-mb2oz Před 14 dny +1

      The reason older women don't feel the same way is because of competition, they feel competition from younger women.
      If she's married and settled down she won't feel the same way as sorority girls.
      It's just mate guarding behavior from older women.

    • @gloryakiepper7918
      @gloryakiepper7918 Před 14 dny +15

      @@CZcamsUser-mb2oz what are you talking about ?

    • @buzzzzzz69
      @buzzzzzz69 Před 14 dny +8

      ​@@CZcamsUser-mb2oz
      I think you may have watched a different video.
      Your comment is completely irrelevant to this one.

    • @simonezuri8303
      @simonezuri8303 Před 14 dny +11

      @gloryakiepper7918 Yes, please let her go to college and wait until in her twenties to decide if she feels the same about him. Sometimes space is needed between 2 people and if meant to be they will end up together.

    • @gloryakiepper7918
      @gloryakiepper7918 Před 14 dny +3

      @@simonezuri8303 I agree . I did not like him. The age of his girlfriends on the line
      at 17. He gets older but the age stays the same.

  • @artgarfunkelsgingerfro2886
    @artgarfunkelsgingerfro2886 Před 15 dny +157

    What does a 28 year old have with a 17 year old... answer: nothing... not a thing. If that were my daughter, I'd have the cops on speed dial.

    • @user-cg9zq4bt5q
      @user-cg9zq4bt5q Před 15 dny +2

      Why not every calibers you own?

    • @noraxbeth
      @noraxbeth Před 15 dny +7

      They could have things in common. Mentorship can be good for kids if they share a common ambition. This is NOT mentorship, this is gross. I wonder why he isn’t interested in women his own age… 🤢

    • @citizenken7069
      @citizenken7069 Před 15 dny +1

      HECK YEAH!!!!

    • @RS54321
      @RS54321 Před 15 dny +2

      Just one thing, and he'd be after it.

    • @joywebster2678
      @joywebster2678 Před 15 dny +2

      As an adult I met and married a man 6 yrs older than me. I quickly noticed that age, and experience difference. His friends were guys and their wives another 5 yrs older than him. So my friends and their new husband's bored him as too young and inexperienced. It was ok initially, but he really wanted a wife with years of housekeeping, and cooking experience. I worked fulltime, stabilized our finances, and learned how to cook, yes there were errors, he wasn't very patient.

  • @ashleygilliland4331
    @ashleygilliland4331 Před 15 dny +140

    He’ll be worse when she wants to go to college.
    She’s 17, she shouldn’t be thinking about babies.

    • @filthiestfish
      @filthiestfish Před 15 dny

      She's 27 or 28 now

    • @Undomaranel
      @Undomaranel Před 15 dny +9

      I disagree. The sooner we teach girls about babies the better they can think through the hormones and emotions rather than succumbing to jealousy or the biological clock. Teach them the responsibilities, the lack of sleep, the pain, the sacrifice, the gross outs, the giving of your time and body to another BEFORE they start looking at boys and you'll see less teen pregnancies.

    • @LeFrenchGuy101
      @LeFrenchGuy101 Před 14 dny +10

      ​@@Undomaranel that's not what they mean.... they mean having a baby.

    • @Undomaranel
      @Undomaranel Před 14 dny +1

      @@LeFrenchGuy101 Exactly. Teach girls what having a baby really means before hormones hit and some guy wants to knock you up.

    • @ashleygilliland4331
      @ashleygilliland4331 Před 13 dny +4

      @@Undomaranel that’s not at all what I meant!
      **What I meant is that she should be thinking about college, jobs, settling down, etc. before having a baby.
      What makes you think it was about what you brought up?

  • @klz9500
    @klz9500 Před 7 dny +20

    Too many people insulting the girl in these comments. This isn't about her, she's been groomed, abandoned and abused. This is about her desperately clinging to something she doesn't have, and a creep taking advantage of her.

  • @alyssameyer7261
    @alyssameyer7261 Před 15 dny +113

    He seems very immature for being 28. Not just for dating a child, but the way he talks. And I’m in no way shape or form saying that makes it okay for him to date a CHILD. He’s just all around not right….

    • @alyssameyer7261
      @alyssameyer7261 Před 15 dny +15

      “Both our favorite colors are blue. She likes to go fishing and so do i”
      Like okayyyy

    • @Undomaranel
      @Undomaranel Před 15 dny

      Which is the common denominator between pedos/ MAPs/ whatever you want to call adults attracted to minors. They seek people close to their mental interests, not their physical development.

    • @iheartdates
      @iheartdates Před 9 dny

      @alyssameyer7261 I totally agree with you. I’d venture to guess he has a developmental delay.

    • @brennathecatlover4360
      @brennathecatlover4360 Před 6 dny

      @@alyssameyer7261fishing can be something to bond over but I’ve never seen people do it over a color

  • @ashleymarks3726
    @ashleymarks3726 Před 15 dny +118

    birth control for cancer control?? the science ain't scienceing 🤣🤣

    • @queenbee3647
      @queenbee3647 Před 15 dny +6

      Estrogen is a notorious troublemaker. You dont feed your cancer Estrogen! I have a reproductive cancer. Ive had several protocols tried, including radiation. Right now my doctor has applied Progesterone. Its working.

    • @karahupp4589
      @karahupp4589 Před 14 dny +6

      I know. And the funny thing was she said her doctor just kept asking and asking and she finally gave in and started the pill to just shut her up. She made it sound like the doctor was showing up at her house and calling her all the time:

    • @TheAllyathome
      @TheAllyathome Před 13 dny

      @@queenbee3647she doesn’t have cancer. Cruciferous vegetables, edamame beans, linseeds are all proven to reduce risk of estrogen based cancers. OCP to prevent cancer 👀 it ain’t ‘sciencing ‘

    • @ktown8139
      @ktown8139 Před 11 dny +6

      @ashleymarks3726 • Regardless of the reason she chose to go on birth control, let’s just feel relieved and pleased she’s using it. He completely steamrolls her so if she was relying on him using condoms, I doubt he would use them.

    • @texassaxet4893
      @texassaxet4893 Před 10 dny

      "women who use the birth control pill have a slightly increased risk of breast, cervical and liver cancer"

  • @sammieg8641
    @sammieg8641 Před 15 dny +98

    Why isn’t he in jail

    • @brennathecatlover4360
      @brennathecatlover4360 Před 6 dny +4

      If she’s the age of consent and depending on the laws with that there’s probably nothing they legally can do

    • @melissahelen88
      @melissahelen88 Před 5 dny +5

      didn't they say he tried to drown his ex-wife? he should be underneath the jail for that..

    • @brennathecatlover4360
      @brennathecatlover4360 Před 5 dny +1

      @@melissahelen88 did they find evidence he did it? Maybe he served jail for that

  • @patsysoyars4435
    @patsysoyars4435 Před 15 dny +60

    This child is to young to even start to have a clue. Very immature and it's disgusting for him to want to be with a child

    • @Eric_Bassett
      @Eric_Bassett Před 7 dny

      lol 17 year olds in 2024 have a clue pat, do you live under a rock ? The issue here is she’s WAY too young for him. But if this was say 2 teens together then that would be acceptable.

  • @kristenkaz3080
    @kristenkaz3080 Před 15 dny +88

    She’s an honor student? Of what? A nursery school?

  • @LindaEckertBallard
    @LindaEckertBallard Před 14 dny +54

    I got married at 17 to a 24yo - I was too young to make that kind of decision. He promised me everything and "Love Bombed" me and now older can recognize. There is NEVER a situation that a older individual grooming children ... he is a pedo and will train her to be a gr8 housewife/cook/clean/raise children/ etc ... but at some point she will find out she does not know everything or even anything :(

    • @RescueAlwaysOfficial
      @RescueAlwaysOfficial Před 12 dny +2

      Sorry to hear about your experience.
      Thanks for sharing!

    • @deadbeats4417
      @deadbeats4417 Před 10 dny +2

      that's not exclusive to age, lots of men my age are the same with their same age gfs

    • @Rara-lc4ip
      @Rara-lc4ip Před 2 dny

      How is 17 and 24 a big deal ??? Men are naturally way more immature then women so I think 24 and 17 isn’t a big deal

    • @LindaEckertBallard
      @LindaEckertBallard Před dnem +2

      @@Rara-lc4ip 17 yo can not give consent that is the difference

    • @ilsev6511
      @ilsev6511 Před dnem +1

      What's wrong with being a housewife if it's your own choice?

  • @breezeh1127
    @breezeh1127 Před 14 dny +34

    Please don't stop trying to get your daughter away from this guy. Especially with his background. My 19 year old cousin became pregnant with her 30 year old boyfriend's baby and mysteriously ended up dead. He was returning the baby stuff the next day and texting women during her funeral. Please get her away. If it feels off..it is!!

    • @Crissa42082
      @Crissa42082 Před 14 dny +4

      Oh my I’m so sorry

    • @ItsWAWGaming
      @ItsWAWGaming Před 7 dny +3

      He did it, and not only that he's a serial killer clearly.

    • @jessicaatkins3173
      @jessicaatkins3173 Před 6 dny +1

      Wow 😢

    • @ItsWAWGaming
      @ItsWAWGaming Před 5 dny +1

      I'd have this investigated thoroughly with him as a prime suspect, he clearly knows what happened and probably did it.

    • @chloedion
      @chloedion Před 3 dny

      oh my god, was there ever an investigation if you don't mind me asking? that sounds like something police would at least look into.

  • @wendydomino
    @wendydomino Před 5 dny +7

    "We were just friends". Why was a man of that age friends with a teenager? I won't even accept friend requests on games that have a lot of young players because it's inappropriate for me as an adult to have them on my "friends list". You shouldn't have even been friends.

  • @rosiered3403
    @rosiered3403 Před 15 dny +39

    She's like a 12 year old.

  • @cindycurry246
    @cindycurry246 Před 15 dny +85

    If she was 28 and he was 39. This would not be a problem. But what I have a problem with is he tried to drown his ex. That’s a huge problem. Birth control does not prevent cancer. In some cases of cancer birth control and make it worse or accelerate the cancer.

    • @violetmanson5514
      @violetmanson5514 Před 15 dny +14

      She’s 17 so yes its different then being 28 vs 38 try again tho 😂

    • @juicysmith38235
      @juicysmith38235 Před 15 dny +3

      ​@@violetmanson5514 try again to NOT be an internet troll ...

    • @RS54321
      @RS54321 Před 15 dny +1

      That's still gross.

    • @dianericci8369
      @dianericci8369 Před 14 dny

      Nobody believes she's taking birth control because it prevents cancer.

    • @breezeh1127
      @breezeh1127 Před 14 dny +6

      Or maybe that he met her at age 7 and came back to date her and kept a relationship with her secret after that. This is planning and grooming.

  • @sl1102
    @sl1102 Před 7 dny +15

    “He took me to get birth control because I heard it prevents cancer.” 😮‍💨

    • @gingercake6645
      @gingercake6645 Před 5 dny +1

      Apparently it can help reduce the risk of ovarian cancer, but it can also increase the risk of breast and cervical cancer, but we all know the real reason she's taking it.

    • @TheLauratkd
      @TheLauratkd Před 4 dny +2

      Tell her that when she has his babies 👶

  • @D-Fens_1632
    @D-Fens_1632 Před 6 dny +11

    Honestly the age difference became irrelevant after seeing his past crimes. That should have been the intitial dealbreaker.

  • @andreajones886
    @andreajones886 Před 15 dny +36

    "check my forehead...did somebody write stupid on there?"🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @SWUploads971
    @SWUploads971 Před 4 dny +6

    What's more werid is that this relationship is legal in 39 states

    • @lilnoodle02
      @lilnoodle02 Před 4 dny

      She’s going to be 18 soon. At that point you can be with anyone you want despite their age. Even if you all disagree and think it’s disgusting, it’s legal and clearly not that wrong or it would not be LEGAL. if nobody is being forced into anything .. why is everyone else so inclined to give their unwanted opinion. 😑

  • @lee4094
    @lee4094 Před 15 dny +48

    Where is that girls father ??????!!!! This person is extremely creepy… father any male figures where are you?????

    • @Dontgiveafabouturfeelings
      @Dontgiveafabouturfeelings Před 15 dny +8

      With his other family

    • @brennathecatlover4360
      @brennathecatlover4360 Před 6 dny +1

      @@kimkaragiannis848u know when children with the most loving of families can fall victims to things right

    • @brennathecatlover4360
      @brennathecatlover4360 Před 6 dny +1

      @@kimkaragiannis848 I mean not having a parent figure will automatically make u a victim of something tho she should’ve been taught signs of grooming regardless of of who she lives with

  • @captainsasquatch824
    @captainsasquatch824 Před 14 dny +32

    Can we get an update on this trainwreck?

  • @pdig2963
    @pdig2963 Před 15 dny +69

    So this recording is from 2014. I wonder if they're still together ?

    • @nastybigJim
      @nastybigJim Před 15 dny

      No they aren’t she’s married to another man last name Martin they have kids. Her mother had a stroke and is in a wheelchair now sadly.

    • @Omar_Zazzle
      @Omar_Zazzle Před 15 dny +18

      I hope not.

    • @wotintheworld
      @wotintheworld Před 14 dny +12

      My pedo ex turned really nasty after I turned 17, I'll bet he left once she womand up.

    • @MaiaMendez12
      @MaiaMendez12 Před 14 dny +6

      @@wotintheworldyes !! My pedo ex left me before I turned 18. He got scared I think but our situation was different because it was secret
      But yea maybe I was becoming too woman for him

    • @joestetz8325
      @joestetz8325 Před 14 dny

      Even michael Jackson booted them all after age 11. It's a real pattern with chomos

  • @JackSimple-xw1ng
    @JackSimple-xw1ng Před 15 dny +113

    17 is of legal age in many states (in fact 16 is in some states). What's concerning is not the 10 year age difference - it's the fact that he allegedly abused his ex-wife. Yet people are ignoring that and just focusing on age.

    • @carcar97
      @carcar97 Před 15 dny +27

      Of course, but the age difference is still concerning. Why does a 30 years old want to be with a 17 years old fresh out of high school girl? It’s one thing if the age gap was between too much older people. In this case, it is abnormal and strange regardless of how legal it is. And says a lot about him.

    • @BreAunnaElliott23
      @BreAunnaElliott23 Před 15 dny +27

      17 may be legal age of consent but it’s still weird for a 30 year old to be dating a high schooler.

    • @kirbyhatesincels917
      @kirbyhatesincels917 Před 15 dny +27

      Stop defending predators. Anyone under 18 is a child whether you like it or not. He is obviously predatory.

    • @CJ-tf5yd
      @CJ-tf5yd Před 15 dny

      That is absolutely a concern. She is 17. What is wrong with you? It’s not 30 and 40. Are you a child molester as well?

    • @jessday.
      @jessday. Před 15 dny +19

      "We met when I was 6. Then we reconnected when I was 16."
      Yeah, I find that to be highly concerning.

  • @dohner29
    @dohner29 Před 15 dny +62

    This episode aired 10 years ago can we get an update on these people lol. Did he kill her? Did they have kids together?

    • @RS54321
      @RS54321 Před 15 dny +1

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @monadrake755
      @monadrake755 Před 11 dny +34

      No. She married a man named Tony Martin and has two kids now. Josh married a woman named Crystal.

  • @nicksery791
    @nicksery791 Před 15 dny +26

    Can you not get a restraining order?

    • @Undomaranel
      @Undomaranel Před 15 dny +5

      They could, but it would likely turn him into a martyr in her eyes.

    • @brennathecatlover4360
      @brennathecatlover4360 Před 6 dny

      He hasn’t done anything that we’re aware of to her so can she really?

  • @user-wt4bf6qw2o
    @user-wt4bf6qw2o Před 15 dny +18

    If her father was in her life this most likely wouldn’t happen.
    This girl is so immature for a 17 year old… This is SO CREEPY. He is a predator and I’m sure can’t get a woman his own age so he finds a little girl. 🤮

  • @robhayes7155
    @robhayes7155 Před 10 dny +28

    If she was my daughter, she wouldn't be dating him. I'd be waiting for parole.

    • @falkwulf3842
      @falkwulf3842 Před 3 dny

      All I have to say is go back through your own family tree. Child marriages were common back in the 1970's going all the way back to biblical times. I guarantee someone in your family tree married a child bride. And without that marriage you would not be here today.

  • @vickieself4762
    @vickieself4762 Před 14 dny +18

    I was this girl back in 2005 at 17 years old. I spent almost 14 years of my life and my entire adult life with that man until about 4 years ago. He was controlling, manipulative, jealous, demeaning in order to get his way, etc. I’ve been on my own now for just over 4 years, I’m 36 years old now, and it’s hard for me to have a relationship with another man, bc I’ve become so selfish after spending so many years with a man whose wants and needs were always put over mine, I just want what I want at this time and do not have the ability to compromise. Even though I’m not with him anymore and have a happy stable life, that relationship still has effects me to this day. I wish o could tell this young lady on stage the big mistake she’s making.

    • @RescueAlwaysOfficial
      @RescueAlwaysOfficial Před 12 dny +1

      You don't have to compromise.

    • @BlackChambermaid
      @BlackChambermaid Před 9 dny +2

      ​@@RescueAlwaysOfficialyou always have to compromise if u want companionship. Romantic and platonic. I think what OP meant is that she is so scared of losing herself again that she put up walls. It's hard to go back to normal and if u come out of an abusive relationships u have to even learn what normal is. Not being able to compromise is not a good thing and shows the damage her abuser has done.

    • @RescueAlwaysOfficial
      @RescueAlwaysOfficial Před 9 dny +1

      @@BlackChambermaid are you American? Asking because I think if you were you would understand what I mean.
      Of course you always make compromises dealing with anyone- regardless of the type of relationship. I mean compromise more as in "settle".

    • @BlackChambermaid
      @BlackChambermaid Před 9 dny +2

      @@RescueAlwaysOfficial If you meant settle it does make sense. But why are u asking if I am American?

    • @RescueAlwaysOfficial
      @RescueAlwaysOfficial Před 9 dny +2

      @@BlackChambermaid because I figure an American would understand what I meant because of how we speak. 🤣

  • @pennyk1943
    @pennyk1943 Před 7 dny +8

    My parents had 11 years apart and my in-laws 12. But the difference is they met and married when the ladies were in their twenties not in elementary or middle school!

  • @PhnxI3
    @PhnxI3 Před 10 dny +14

    Mentally she’s 9

  • @adiroseschierbaum6445
    @adiroseschierbaum6445 Před 8 dny +5

    At my prom there was a strict rule on guests, if they were older then 21 they couldn’t attend

  • @Lynnda86
    @Lynnda86 Před 15 dny +16

    I so wish someone had told me this at age 15, 16, 17, 19, & 21... my life would've been SO different. 😭😭😭💔

    • @kristenkaz3080
      @kristenkaz3080 Před 15 dny +2

      But at that age would you have listened? That’s the hard part.

    • @savedbygrace6108
      @savedbygrace6108 Před 6 dny +2

      So many people would say the same thing. We need to Trust God to help us move forward❤️🙏🏼❤️

  • @rebeccab6009
    @rebeccab6009 Před 15 dny +9

    If she was older and more mature she would realize that him trying to drown his previous wife is a solid no for dating him. She will be abused, it just how long will she will put up with him. For the love of God do not have a child with this man!

  • @isaacmettle
    @isaacmettle Před 15 dny +27

    HECK NO!! I’m 44 and got had to deal with a 17 year old. NO WAY!!(not worth the headache)IT WONT LAST!! Before she hits 25 I GUARANTEE she will want out

    • @KGBSpyGeorgeCostanza
      @KGBSpyGeorgeCostanza Před 15 dny +5

      You dated a 17 year old? At what age? Come on and speak out with it bud 😡

    • @callanightshade8079
      @callanightshade8079 Před 15 dny

      Age of consent in their state was 17 at the time

    • @mimid6354
      @mimid6354 Před 15 dny

      The problem was you not her, believe me.. what did you think you would get from a barely legal teen? Creep. A man going for a woman that young is looking for someone they can run game on an manipulate - of course they want out by 25, because they realise how creepy the elder man they are with really is and that the man is no more emotionally or mentally mature than she is. Facts… a man that is mentally mature would want someone who can mentally stimulate him, unless he has no mind to stimulate. That tells me all I need to know

    • @SuzanneGoins1981
      @SuzanneGoins1981 Před 15 dny +1

      Each U.S. state has its own general age of consent. As of August 1, 2018, the age of consent in each state in the United States is either 16 years of age, 17 years of age, or 18 years of age. The most common age of consent is 16, which is a common age of consent in most other Western countries.

    • @TheSixthSLoT
      @TheSixthSLoT Před 15 dny

      ​@@KGBSpyGeorgeCostanza Ohhhhh, we've got a big man over here! Look out, he's got an emoji XDXDXD

  • @MsDana-mo9fp
    @MsDana-mo9fp Před 15 dny +36

    He is losing his hair already! When she gets 30 - he will be using a walker & she will walk away!

    • @TheSixthSLoT
      @TheSixthSLoT Před 15 dny +5

      28 is actually the age that most men start losing hair, but I've even seen people in high school with hair loss. It's not age related. It's simply genetic. There are men in their 80's who have more hair than young men in their early 20's.

    • @jenniferesser8249
      @jenniferesser8249 Před 15 dny +1

      ​@@TheSixthSLoT
      😇💜 Loosing your hair also IS due to wearing hats and mainly wearing baseball hats.

    • @TheSixthSLoT
      @TheSixthSLoT Před 15 dny +9

      @@jenniferesser8249 That's a myth.

    • @kathconserv
      @kathconserv Před 15 dny +2

      How does a 40 year old man need a walker?

    • @mariahoulihan9483
      @mariahoulihan9483 Před 15 dny +4

      what..using a walker at 42.. get your facts straight. he's 'nearly 30 now' ie 29.. that is 12 years older than her. I am not saying this is right. but your talk of a walker at that age is unusual.

  • @MrSuperchargeron
    @MrSuperchargeron Před 15 dny +13

    I remember when I was a senior in high school there was a girl in my class that got engaged and married a cop. I don't think it lasted long...

  • @RKB74
    @RKB74 Před 6 dny +6

    all the other points aside (and there are DEFINITELY problems with this "relationship" and it's criminal in most civilized societies, as it should be)...shame on Dr. Phil for shaming the girl for taking the RESPONSIBLE step of getting on birth control. That's the ONE smart thing about what she's doing! The only thing that could make this tragic, criminal "relationship" even worse would be for a child to come out of it...she'll hopefully grow out of this nonsense and be able to go on with her life...with an unwanted pregnancy coming from this mistake--especially now that the US is a country (along with Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia) where girls are forced to give birth to unwanted pregnancies, even those from rapes--her life would be permanently ruined.
    Lock the dude up, tell the girl she's nuts...fine. But do NOT ridicule her for being responsible about birth control.

  • @LLOOYYYDD
    @LLOOYYYDD Před 7 dny +4

    *She'll see him for what he is when he dumps her after she's 21 and then goes after another child*

  • @Usedw0tm8
    @Usedw0tm8 Před 11 dny +4

    My former best friend did this... she stayed on Skype or calling 24/7 because he lived in Wales and they eventually got married after meeting in person like...4 times. They were EXTREMELY codependent and moved WAY too fast.
    They are now divorced because she cheated.
    This is your future, Cheyanne.

  • @Beautyinthebreakdown.
    @Beautyinthebreakdown. Před 11 dny +5

    If a man hurt one woman, he’ll hurt the next. Speaking from experience.

  • @ericbogar9665
    @ericbogar9665 Před 3 dny +2

    Elvis, do you think it's appropriate for a 25 year old to date a 14 year old? Elvis: Everybody in the whole cell block
    Was dancin' to the Jailhouse Rock

  • @mrgreenav1091
    @mrgreenav1091 Před 15 dny +20

    What in the Drake is this?

  • @Cruella_DG
    @Cruella_DG Před 15 dny +12

    Way way beyond creepy

    • @falkwulf3842
      @falkwulf3842 Před 3 dny

      All I have to say is go back through your own family tree. Child marriages were common back in the 1970's less common in the 1980's but still went on, start with the 1980's go all the way back to biblical times. I guarantee someone in your family tree married a child bride. And without that marriage you would not be here today.

  • @nattyl2070
    @nattyl2070 Před 7 dny +4

    He wants someone he can easily control!!!

  • @mom2jsh
    @mom2jsh Před 10 dny +5

    This was 10 years ago. I wonder if they're still together ... I'm banking on them having split up after she matured.

  • @PowerHouseWrestling
    @PowerHouseWrestling Před 15 dny +6

    When I was growing up the cops probation officers, the courts they took care of business. Now it’s like they don’t even wanna be bothered by this stuff.

  • @gigis731
    @gigis731 Před 15 dny +8

    Unfortunately she is at the legal age of consent so calling the police will do nothing.

    • @brennathecatlover4360
      @brennathecatlover4360 Před 6 dny

      Apparently in the state the show is filmed it’s not at least according to dr Phil but idk what state they’re in

  • @RescueAlwaysOfficial
    @RescueAlwaysOfficial Před 12 dny +1

    I love the way Dr. Phil is "handling" her!

  • @katiecampbell9191
    @katiecampbell9191 Před 8 dny +2

    There is no way they have anything in common. I’m 30 years old. That guy is just a pervert. Period.

  • @warwolf88
    @warwolf88 Před 15 dny +15

    he's seems like he's a bit of a groomer

  • @natalie9884
    @natalie9884 Před 15 dny +22

    A lot of this boils down to parenting styles/parenting in general.

    • @puddysue
      @puddysue Před 15 dny +5

      Not always.

    • @puddysue
      @puddysue Před 15 dny

      I apologize... in this case, you are correct!

    • @LHP069
      @LHP069 Před 14 dny +3

      Most of the time it’s the lack of a father in the home, she’s looking for love in a father figure

    • @RescueAlwaysOfficial
      @RescueAlwaysOfficial Před 12 dny

      I don't know. You can't control these teenagers sometimes!

    • @brennathecatlover4360
      @brennathecatlover4360 Před 6 dny

      Not necessarily people can be victims/ trash people even when they came from loving homes

  • @user60521123
    @user60521123 Před 5 dny +2

    The best thing the mom can do is make sure she graduates HS and goes off the college. Once she at college and meets boys her age-he’ll be history.

  • @Samira87333
    @Samira87333 Před 15 dny +8

    She's going to find a boy her own age in college and then this guy will try to unalive her like his ex.
    That's if he doesn't knock her up before she even has the chance to go.

    • @nancymorris995
      @nancymorris995 Před 14 dny +2

      Yeah, I can totally see him trapping her with a pregnancy. There’s no way he’s on board with her going off to college.

    • @monadrake755
      @monadrake755 Před 11 dny

      This was 10 years ago. She married a man named Tony Martin and has two kids now. Josh married a woman named Crystal.

  • @aAngel93
    @aAngel93 Před 12 dny +4

    Teen girls take my advice because I care about our youth if an older man tempts you into relations or in a relationship with him RUN RUN RUN to your mom and away from him

  • @llunaeldas8055
    @llunaeldas8055 Před 15 dny +5

    I'd have him arrested.

  • @bolotabr12
    @bolotabr12 Před 4 dny +1

    Someone once said don’t worry about the 30 years old woman because everyday somewhere a girl turns 18. 🙄

  • @brendasnow8255
    @brendasnow8255 Před 15 dny +4

    She’s 17 now, which their state may allow, but he groomed her when she was younger. There is a legal complaint.

    • @monadrake755
      @monadrake755 Před 4 dny +1

      She’s 28 now. This was filmed a long time ago

  • @alexandravatavuk3796
    @alexandravatavuk3796 Před 14 dny

    Dr. Phil is spot on!

  • @user-zd8kq2uu5y
    @user-zd8kq2uu5y Před 7 dny

    We need an update on this story!!

  • @lmbscriptsharcs2044
    @lmbscriptsharcs2044 Před 15 dny +13

    Creepy!

  • @rachelpadilla9368
    @rachelpadilla9368 Před 15 dny +4

    There’s no doubt that she will out grow him, But she’ll probably have a couple of babies by then, so she’ll never get rid of him.

  • @arferret
    @arferret Před 7 dny +2

    Child grooming 101 right here. So disturbing.

  • @franklydarling....7244
    @franklydarling....7244 Před 3 dny +1

    Who writes these titles?
    What the heck do braces have to do with anything?! He's dating a teenager!!!

  • @jessicakilby1678
    @jessicakilby1678 Před 14 dny +3

    When she hits 30 she will realise the damage this has done. Unfortunately she won’t be able take it bk 😞

  • @texastreat8721
    @texastreat8721 Před 14 dny

    Dr. Phil is so right.

  • @brandyb2931
    @brandyb2931 Před 14 dny +4

    She is book smart but is very naive. I don't think she has had any experience with boys her age which is why this has been so easy for him. If she ever decides to do anything for herself besides focus on him that threatens his control over her, he will treat her the same way he treated his ex. She doesn't grasp that he is seperating her from her support systems like her friends and her mother. She thinks its love. She doesn't understand its abuse. I would be interested in the update of these 2 in 5 years. Its probably gonna take awhile for her to get out of this.

  • @jmlnursing1084
    @jmlnursing1084 Před 7 dny +3

    Red pill type of guy.

  • @ember13dp
    @ember13dp Před 12 dny +5

    I mean, why does the "with braces" matter 😂

  • @cleliaparnell8743
    @cleliaparnell8743 Před 5 dny +1

    She has that teenager "know it all" attitude but her smirk was wiped away when she heard some facts.

  • @grachisol8236
    @grachisol8236 Před 8 dny +1

    They’re not together anymore. She’s married some guy named Tony and has 2 kids now.

  • @shybearr
    @shybearr Před 15 dny +8

    This has to be a joke?💀

  • @andreajones886
    @andreajones886 Před 15 dny +3

    Josh be resembling Channing Tatum a little

  • @Only1Los
    @Only1Los Před 3 dny

    Wasn’t the doctor that kept asking, it was him hounding her about it. When you tell a doctor no to meds they’re not gonna keep asking.

  • @RyneMurray23
    @RyneMurray23 Před 2 dny +1

    This is so damn creepy. He gives her gifts. They are already planning to have one child. He's grooming her

  • @grikmyr
    @grikmyr Před 14 dny +3

    What could a 28 year old man possibly have in common with a 17 year old school girl? Both are as bad as each other, if you ask me. Immature to the max!

  • @margipinto7925
    @margipinto7925 Před 15 dny +4

    Is there an update on this case?

    • @angiebirdwell7069
      @angiebirdwell7069 Před 15 dny +6

      According to my research on Google and instagram, they aren’t together anymore

    • @sylviaguerrero9794
      @sylviaguerrero9794 Před 15 dny +4

      She left him after a couple of months. She moved on married someone else and had a baby.

    • @simonezuri8303
      @simonezuri8303 Před 14 dny

      What?! Did she not go to college?

    • @margipinto7925
      @margipinto7925 Před 11 dny

      @@sylviaguerrero9794 thank you!

  • @NoCallerID86753ohNine
    @NoCallerID86753ohNine Před 10 dny +2

    Someone told me that hormonal birth control was considered a class/group 1 carcinogen. The fact that she wanted to take BC to prevent cancer, so misinformed but then again people don’t tell you that when you get birth control….

    • @JBoo
      @JBoo Před 8 dny

      Can confirm

  • @vickieself4762
    @vickieself4762 Před 14 dny +1

    I started sneaking around and talking to my BIL’s cousin when I was just 16. When I was 17, he was 28, I had literally “fallen in love”, and told my parents. They objected but knew I was months away from 18 and they wouldn’t be able to stop me. My mind was made up. He was controlling and possessive the more serious things got, and I ultimately didn’t have any friends my age anymore. I moved into his house after graduating HS at 18. I ended up not going to college bc I knew he was concerned that I would meet someone better than him and didn’t want to deal with the drama of him constantly accusing me of cheating. When I was 20 we had an unplanned pregnancy, she is 15 years old now and is my one and only child bc I didn’t want to being another child into the world bc he was so selfish and I did almost everything for our daughter myself. After spending almost 14 years together when my daughter was 10 years old, I realized I couldn’t take it anymore. I’d lived under his thumb my entire adult life and didn’t have anything for myself, nor any support. And it took me that long to leave a man I need to say good for me b/c he did everything he could to make me believe I could not take care of, and provide for my daughter and myself on my own. At about 32 y/o I left that house that I helped pay for and make into a home for almost 14 years with nothing but my truck and our clothes. Stayed on my moms couch for about 5 months and finally by Gods grace a house that I could afford with a gf of mine who just separated with her husband, our daughters were best friends so we all moved into the house together, and slowly but surely and only by God’s grace after 4 years my daughter and I live in this house by ourselves now and have been for 3 years, and life is pretty good. But I allowed that man to rob most of my adult life and this young girl is about to do the same thing.

  • @jeannietimberger2556
    @jeannietimberger2556 Před 11 dny +6

    Just wait till she gets a little older and he shows less interest in her and more interested in other 17 year old girls. He's messing her up mentally.

  • @vicwei4302
    @vicwei4302 Před 14 dny +6

    I met my future husband on a blind date when I was a senior in HS (17 yr old). He was 26. We dated for 3 1/2 years then married. We were together for 50 years. He was and still is the love of my life though he died at age 76.

  • @mimimonster
    @mimimonster Před 12 dny +1

    I want an update on this story soooo bad

  • @AshlynTeague
    @AshlynTeague Před 3 dny

    The last update on this pair is from 2019. She and Josh separated and she got engaged to a new partner 1 month prior to Josh getting engaged to a new... Victim, which may or may not be a coincidence. It seems that she moved on, atleast.

  • @ritahall8653
    @ritahall8653 Před 15 dny +20

    Put him in jail

    • @A.o.D
      @A.o.D Před 15 dny +2

      For What?? The mom has been trying to and what's going on is not illegal. Disgusting but Not illegal in the state they live in

  • @mimid6354
    @mimid6354 Před 15 dny +4

    What is her wearing braces got to do with it?

    • @kathconserv
      @kathconserv Před 15 dny

      Nothing.

    • @deftones8717
      @deftones8717 Před 15 dny +2

      I mean, braces are normally associated with younger kids.. I’m aware that adults get braces too, but it’s far more commonly seen on adolescents.

    • @simonezuri8303
      @simonezuri8303 Před 14 dny

      Adults can wear braces too.

    • @SeethingSimp
      @SeethingSimp Před 10 dny

      because despite him having a criminal record, they're more interested in focusing on something that is legal in 99% of the world and has been normal forever until the past decade.

  • @blueberrymarie908
    @blueberrymarie908 Před 15 dny +2

    Wonder what ever happened with them ? So disturbing