Max compares Gervonta Davis to Mike Tyson after vicious KO vs. Leo Santa Cruz | First Take
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- Max Kellerman, Stephen A. Smith and Ryan Clark react to Gervonta Davis defeating Leo Santa Cruz after a sixth-round knockout.
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ESPN talking boxing, Meanwhile Undisputed talking about what Lebron James is tweeting and the cowboys everyday 😂
Skip or Shannon aren’t experts about boxing like max is,watching them talk boxing would be like watching two guys in a barber shop discussing it
@@emmanuelsinah223 Stephen A and Ryan Clark aren’t experts as well
@@sde12345 but max is and they usually let max lead
🤣🤣🤣
You can blame skip for that. He only talks about 3 subjects in sports. Lebron cowboys and some other football on Monday’s.
Max is at his best when ever he talks about boxing this is his element
Facts💯. He needs to stay in this lane and stay out of the basketball and football lane.
@@ike.o6944 so true
Yes, sad hbo folded
Clearly not... the comments he made about tank completely assassin especially comparing him to a mid tier fighter in gatti.
Max misses the mark on this Gatti was never the most exciting he took alot of punishment see what happened when he fought Floyd
Let’s just say if Tank fought on ESPN he would be on their pound for pound
Patience was shown from the "puncher" with that bad intention upper cut...a legit boxer
@Jose Antonio idk what fight you were watching but go back & watch it then rewatch if he was hoping for a big punch he would've been swinging for the fences & swinging harder, the uppercuts he hit Pedraza with were way harder, Leo caught him with 2jabs before he time that. stop hating it wasn't luck, he can box & has power end of story
@@mr.elliott1743 learn boxing bro
@@lamasterbatonlll1383 bwahahahaha I think I've learned a thing or 2 over the span of my 30plus yrs....but what am I missing 👀👂🏾
@Jose Antonio you’re crazy lol Davis was letting that left uppercut go throughout the fight and was waiting to put some power on it for the KO 6round
@Jose Antonio Actually Tank was a better boxer and even a better brawler...stop the hate its an ugly look.
i dont think stephen A watched the fight lol
No he didn’t.
Right lol.
Sounds like it
He’s just a idiot.
Stephen a still wet his bed 🤣🛌
“Elusivity” is not a word Stephen A. Elusiveness will do just fine.
AND NOT TO DEFEND STEVANA A SMITH BECAUSE I RARELY AGREE WITH ANYTHING TOPIC OR DISCUSSION HE'S ENTERTAINING AND ACTUALLY ELUSIVITY IS A WORD LOOK IT UP BUT IT ALSO LEADS YOU RIGHT BACK TO ELUSIVENESS AND ELUSIVE BUT I THINK ELUSIVENESS IS THE PERFECT AND CORRECT WORD HE SHOULD'VE USED IN THAT CONTEXT
As an English major, I've used the word "Elusivity" before. It's not technically in a dictionary, but it's acceptable in conversation, getting a point across and even on exams/essays.
Ohh Merriam. Welcome to YT
Elusivitatiousness
But you know what he meant when he said it.
Steve a Smith we can see u clearly don't know boxing
@CRB you don't have to have ever been a boxer or been in a gym to know boxing. I'd bet Max could run circles around you in boxing knowledge. If not, you're Teddy Atlas!
@CRB I understand what you're saying. Max knows a lot about the sport of boxing, not so much about the craft of boxing.
Why you say that?
because teo at 130 or 135 has the foot movement but in speed and power davis would be to much for him at that weight
@CRB what are you talking about? He grew up in a boxing gym, been around it his whole life
Tank is easily the most exciting fighter. Strong chin, Amazing speed and Footwork and then finally the knockout power.
that uppercut came all the way from antartica
And went passed the moon
Steven A Smith saying Lopez is more exciting than Gervanta Davis ridiculous
Not really. Lopez is an ESPN fighter via Top Rank
Nobody was even talking about Teo before the Loma fight. But espn loves to suck up they own fighters so what you expect.
Honestly, I think the Lopez vs Loma fight was a draw 6-6 especially the second half of fight. Even Andre Ward, a scholar in boxing had it a draw. Basically, Lopez 23, is a future money draw while Loma is 32 and only a few years left. Tank vs. Lopez at 135 would be ideal.
They both exciting
@Jose Antonio what are you talking about Lopez just fought a smaller fighter.....Lomachenko
There's a reason why Ryan Garcia keeps dodging him
Big facts
Why would a guy with no belt dodge a guy who’s older and has a belt ? U mean tank is dodging Loma and teo and devin
@@acethehooligan5972 that part
He hasn't dodged he wants to fight him davis doesnt want to fight him point blank
@@acethehooligan5972 Teo would get destroyed by Davis if he fight the way he did against Loma. That defense was horrible. Never putting his hands up. Haney hasn’t fought anyone at all. & Loma y’all hyped him up he a decent fighter but that’s it
All about them “fast twitchies”
Max "twitchies" Kellerman
Max "ravine" Kellerman
Max "belichick is the system" Kellerman
Max "fate of the universe on the line" Kellerman
Yall crazy lmao
I dont get it? Is twitchies not a word?
@@4starmanny1i dont get it? Is twitchies not a word?
*November* *28,* *2020*
Mike Tyson vs Roy Jones Jr.
I love both guys. Hope neither one get really hurt from it.
Body shots are gonna be the difference make in that bout ... Both My fav fighters growing up.. (Pernell sweet pea Whitaker..Hector Macho Camacho.. Arturo Thunder Gatti) also .. unfortunately they are not with us anymore .. may they Rest in Paradise
UMMMMMMM SOMEBODY he getting ⚰😴Bodied 👨🏿🦽⚰
😂😂MIKEden said he trying to disable Roy Jones to his face😳Go watch the interview😂These Older Lions bout to rumble.💯
🥊🥊😬🥊🥊
Wouldn’t mind a body bag maybe it would help these old heads to stay out of the ring sometimes tragedy is nessary
Roy better use his feet and run. Speed will be his best friend
Get Steven A all the way outta here. That’s disgusting 🤢
He gets on my nerves man he’s always loud and wrong
Mannnnnnn I was just watching this and saying the same thing...smh...one sad dude
Lopez>Tank
@Overhand what does that have to do with excitement? Ironically, leaves out Teo getting his face tapdanced on in rounds 7-11.
@@ave-6130 look at their sparring session on CZcams and then holler at me.
Teofimo vs Tank make it happen
Lopez going to 140 . Tank is at 130.
Tank ain't fought at 135 yet by now?
@gmi g why?? I heard he walk around at 160+...I'm sure he got the power to go up a class
@Joshua Wisdom lmaoooooo i just bust out laughed u casuals teo will expose Haney lol go head put your $$ on Haney u going look like a clown
@Joshua Wisdom he just fought loma but some how he ducking 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Give Ellie ESNEWS his credit! He was the first person to say “Tank is the the lightweight Mike Tyson”
Facts
Ellie’s a groupie
Mf cherrypicked a 126 and knocked him out but took 12 rounds to barely score a tko against a 40 year old glass chin his own size. That’s why they picked a small Leo. Y’all fangirls are next stupid
Definitely he been saying that 💯
@Overhand tank was ducking everyone from 130-135. No wonder they fought lmao they should’ve sold it as “Duckers” 😂😂
@Overhand facts 💯
Yo I’ll take RC talking boxing, basketball, any sport really, just don’t bring perk back please😂 it’s been nice without him!
Tank is no joke I can’t believe Ryan Garcia would ever say he’s ready for this man 😂
Rs he’s gonna get slumped he definitely will land a few blows he quick af
Cant overlook Ryan.
Yessir Baltimore representing
Baltimore own love seeing him fight
*Tank is a baby Tyson, he has power! And dont disrespect Leo, his proven to be a champ!*
You can tell SAS is out of his element he loathes boxing talk.
Exactly
Hahahaha so true
Oh yeah. For sure. He doesn’t even sound as sure of himself.
I feel Gervontae is most worthy of the comparison to Mike Tyson (in the ring) out of any other boxer I can think of! He can take a punch and definitely can give one!
@Jose Antonio we can always speculate either way but my opinion remains the same.
"Ain't about the size of the dog in the fight. Its about the size and the fight in the dog!"
-Gervonta Davis before Ravens vs Patriots Week 9 2019
Thats a well known saying....
ERROL SPENCE JR IS P4P #1 and the most exciting fighter in boxing. He constantly fighting good competition. Nobody is fighting up to par competition like Errol right now
Facts.
Good news, he is fighting Pacquiao
Stephen should stick to NBA n NFL and Rc is an nfl safety.. 👀
He doesn’t even know those sports for real
@trucity sev you should stick to more English classes
@trucity sev your comebacks are as good as your English skills
Too?
what did Stephen A say that was wrong? Having Teo over Tank or having Bud still at the top? Its nowhere near when he compared Andy Ruiz to butterbean, thay definitely showed he doesnt watch boxing.
Max speaking boxing is my sit back and listen and learn moment. Man loves boxing and knows boxing.
Shout out to Ryan Clark for mentioning Max Holloway!
“Crazy fast twitchies”
Basically calling him black
@@va4001 what?
Vv O you’re part of the worlds problem just delete your CZcams
Whats the problem? Can u explain??
Boxing Isnt Stephen A's Lane..Max Boxing knowledge is Great
Max definitely knows his boxing, but he uses it the wrong way. He clearly has a beef with Floyd Mayweather, Al Haymon, and PBC.
A lot of people don't know how super cold Gervonta Davis is.
In terms of the record, Yes, but in charisma and appeal to people, No.
Hes a championship fighter and appeals to me and I never watch boxing...wonder what you call “appealing”.
If you actually enjoy boxing the fighters personality shouldn’t matter. The only thing that should matter is what they do in the ring.
Thank you for switching it up and giving boxing some attention.
They just proved why they don’t talk about boxing much cause they don’t know nothing that their talking about
You’re a fan of a boxing narrative not a the sport think about tank Davis has still so much to prove...but there is no double standard for him you see how the baised media doesn’t bash him..there is a double standard for Canelo Alvarez he always has to prove himself fight after fight he can beat the best fighter and y’all still won’t give him props..Tank beats a guy coming up in weight and he’s greatest thing since sliced bread 😭😭 nah b I don’t think so..you have to keep the same energy with all those fighters what max said was nothing but fact besides the part we’re he was comparing him to mike Tyson
Jay _Szn dude shut up you don’t know what I am, last time I checked canelo has a L he had his time but it’s these young bucks time now.
@@dantellliggins3617 let me guess b these young bucks to you are Errol spence?? 🤣😭 who else jermall Charlo?? Who else not realizing that those dudes are older than Canelo but yet again you didn’t debunked anything I said you spoke off emotion..like I said you’re not fan of the sport you’re a fan of biased narrative..you probably think Davis is pound for pound best fighter in the world you just a casual fan b I bet you can’t name the last five opponents this man has fought without looking on box rec..
Jay _Szn dude you think you know everything but you don’t, you tryna tell me what I think 😂 but I’m the one speaking off emotions. Nobody is talking about canelo but you.... stop tryna hate on one man to try and build up the next. Tanks potential is higher than canelo just face it
@@dantellliggins3617 Crawford would kill Davis easily
I just love these START FROM THE BOTTOM fighters
Look at s.a.m hes like ahhh not my segment lol Max da king
Of course stephen A brings up the top rank guy teofimo lopez
why wouldnt he dummy he has the best win in all the small weights
Stephen A don't never wanna give a brother his props... Always sounds like a hater
He’s never with the brothers when we need him look how he acted during the kapp situation
Steven and Ryan never since teo fight until the lomo fight.
Facts
Well Teo beat the one everyone was avoiding at 135 with great movement and angles and Tank beat the one dimensional guy that came up in weight, he was just speaking facts
Juan Lopez facts on facts
Max I agree ya make sense this time around keep it up
The guy Big Bank Little Tank. Has power in both hands and it was a good action fight. Good luck to Tank.
The hate on PBC fighters from Stephen A is real.
Lol I just wrote that. Lifelong grudge against PBC is so real.
Mate this segment should be max and max alone 😂 also most exciting mate? Canelo Alvarez, Naoya Inoue and AJ are very exciting fighters
The boxing world is max's yard. SAS needs to sit back & learn from him.
Yes ESPN talk more boxing 🥊
I love it when Max talks about boxing, he definitely knows his stuff
how is tank the smaller fight when
leo is taller and has the reach....looked bigger then tank at the fight lol his power makes him the bigger fighter
You’re right in respect to height and reach. But, Tank has more muscle mass and have fought at heavier weight classes than Leo. That is where that narrative comes from. At the end of the day they both weighed in at 130 so they have leverage their advantages and overcome their disadvantages, no excuses.
Tank is smaller than leo
It's like Tyson vs margarito. Margarito is taller than Tyson but we all know who is "bigger". Use your common sense man
I think they say that because Santa Cruz moved up in weight to fight Davis, who like you pointed out, is a naturally smaller person in stature.
He was talking weight class not height
GREAT fight
Well said Max!
Did Stephen a smith just say tofimo lopez is the most exciting fighter 🤦🏿♂️
Max sound crazy saying Leo the smaller guy Tank came down in weight (1) and tank was just fighting at 130 🤦🏾♂️ give that man his credit
You do realize Leo started off at 118 pounds tank started off at 130 and came down from 1 fight at 135 learn boxing bro
You don’t even know what you talking about
@PG Spinner: YDKSAB
Agreed wholeheartedly with Max K...
This is where Max is at his best he does know his boxing
What do you know about Terence Crawford, Smith? You just regurgitate what other say. You know nothing about boxing.
TC the best right now
@@shinsukecorbin425 Hands down. And has been for a while. He's myfavorite.
He will not stalk tank or he will go to sleep 🛏 like the rest of them Tank vs who ever 💪🏾💪🏾 🥊
Baltimore Representer 💯💯💪🏾💪🏾
We Love Tank He Putting On
Now Money May gotta start getting him in there with the other young bulls at 135 to silence the haters and non believers 🤫
@@slickt8417 410 STAND UP my biggest problem with the politics of this is no matter what this BLACK BROTHER DO they are always going to find something negative to say y should TANK have to go 12 rds if he don’t have to he’s getting the job done quickly and with fashion....that’s what we want to see
I agree with max and smith . Tank gets hit enough in exchanges to take an L with a knock out puncher ...Leo didn't have the power but he did have the skill
I like how Ryan used the Max Holloway comparison
I was never excited to see a Lopez fight tbh idk where Steven A got that from, I Know Teo is good but I wont be going crazy to see any of his fights.
Lopez was also the MUCH bigger fighter in an injured loma let's not forget that , Loma v tank at 130 is the fight I want to see
Loma wasn’t injured . He lying
I can't see Lomo not getting KO'd unless he circles the ring like he did with Lopez ... Tank hits you one time and it's over !
Why when fighters lose a fight they said they injured take ur L like a man and move on
That would be a great fight, been waiting on that one for awhile.
I love Max’s passion when talking boxing lmaoo
The best comparison! Factual guarantee thrill for the dollar!!! Beast mode.
Tank vs Loma
Spence vs Crawford
are best fights to be mad right now
It’s no reason for tank to fight loma now after his lost to teo. Tank is now a ppv STAR. only big fights from now on and all those guys you casual fans naming are getting lined up if they can get pass their opponents
@@rcoker913 Sounds like you're the casual excluding Loma just because of his loss to Lopez lol. Devon, Tank, Loma, Lopez and Garcia are going to trade wins and losses.
You think these guys are just going to be out of the convo for taking a L to another top guy???? By your logic Shawn Porter would've never fought Spence.
@@conormctapoutaka0-1aka0tit5 you really want to see tank vs loma ?
Surprised Max of all people couldn't see the fight slowly going in the direction of Tank by stating "You didn't know who was gonna win it up until the stoppage". Leo started slowing down, affected by his punches, many straight punches landed to the body of LSC slowed him down. Of course he was very much in the fight but to stay that shows zero feeling for the trajectory of the fight. Again, surprised considering Max boxing knowledge.
And I gotta say, what was this clip really? I mean, at least talk a bit about the fight.
Fr Santa Cruz hit him, but Davis hit him harder, you could see Leo was struggling even before the Knockout.
That's because Max is a homer he has to defend some of those overrated top rank fighters
Max is just spitting Knowledge.
Man I used to love watching Gatti fight. He was hands down the most exciting for me.
Mike Tyson is my 2nd favorite athlete of all-time behind Michael Jordan. There's nobody like Mike. Both Mikes. Nobody can hit as fast and hard as Iron Mike. Prime George Foreman vs prime Mike Tyson would be a sight to behold.
Mike Tyson is overrated asf
The difference between Mike Tyson and every other fighter is pretty clear, most fighters wanted to beat their opponents, Mike Tyson genuinely wanted to injure or even kill his opponents, he's stated that numerous times and even went after fighters when they were down to take their heads off.
Had his original trainer lived ten more years, Tyson would have been the unquestionable GOAT.
@BIG DADDY exactly..never reached his potential, stopped improving, skills rotted, abused his body, stopped caring..
@@OTB2002 that's incredibly short sided and every one studying fighting knows it..his career wasn't as good as it could have been, but you have to understand why..he wasn't overrated
Sorry LBJ so much better than him you sound sad!😒😂🤦🏾♂️👉🏾
Claims are ridiculous??? Yet ESPN had Loma number one p4p at 9-1 smh. The hypocrisy of ESPN.
Very good point from all commentators!!! Tank seem exciting because you can see he can possibly loose!!! He takes a lot of shots!!! So when he end the fight with a mean uppercut!!! He was throwing all night!!! Your like Wow...omg this guy pulled it off!!
Great analysis Max i was saying the same thing shortly after the fight. Tank is a miniature Mike Tyson.
It's hard for a boxer to be compared to Mike Tyson, but it's way harder for someone to be named as the next Mike Tyson
Every time Mike Tyson fought a great boxer in his prime he lost.
It’s funny how max says someone and then Stephen A comes. And say. NO. I DONT THINK. NO MAX IM NOT WITH YOU ON THAT 😂. Max face looks like he sad on the inside
Ths two guys always go back and forth 😂😂😂
@@CalleseAlaVerga Stephen is actually right tho! Lopez and sr are way more exciting than Tank’s mumble English
@@LA55PICHAS55 yes he is
@@CalleseAlaVerga Might be the first time he doesn’t side with the black fighter!
@@LA55PICHAS55 . Before the loma and teofimo fight max said loma was going to school fimo.
It's crazy even after teofimo beat loma there is some people that dont want to give the man credit
Heavyweights are the most exciting, point blank period, always has and always will be.
people forgot about manny pacquio who is old but still brings excitement look how much excitement he brings when he fought keith thurman .
SAS COME ON MAN TEOFIMO IS VERY GOOD AND DESERVES THE RESPECT BUT HE IS NOT MORE “EXCITING TO WATCH.” IF THAT WAS THE CASE TEO WOULD BE THE PPV ATTRACTION NOT TANK. I HATE WHEN SAS TALKS BOXING 🙄
No, Mo, Chenko 💯 he's always been all hype he is a ballerina 😅🤣
Max knows his boxing 💯
Stephen is on point! Tank vs Loma/Haney💪🏽
I still just can’t believe the hype for Terrence Crawford...
ESPN and Top Rank connection.... I’m not the end all be all for boxing knowledge but I have seen enough in my time to recognize special... To me Crawford is a great fighter but he’s not in the special conversation and I’ve tried to be as objective as I can but I am certain if Spence was Top Rank and Crawford was a PBC guy, the narrative would flip....The next great one is coming out of the current mix of 130-135 pound fighters... (Lopez, Davis, Haney, Stevenson) In fact, they may all be special like, Leonard, Duran and Hearns were...and all may take a loss... Time will tell...
@@dionwilliams9486 i was high on spence until he stepped up in competition and had a mediocre fight against Shawn porter and failed to put away a little Mikey garcia that came up 2 divisions. Thats what a p4p should do. His drinking and party lifestyle has caught up with him culminating to his car crash.
@@voongnz I hear you but you also have to keep in mind that after accepting defeat, Mikey’s only objective was to survive.... Also, Shawn Porter is a first rate fighter. Name me one guy that blew him out?
@@dionwilliams9486 agreed porter is a good fighter and awkward to fight and put out, but tbh kell brook and Thurman had better fights against him.
He still mostly passes the eye test but for only having fought in WW, I gotta put crawford and canelo ahead in the p4p rankings, even maybe Inoue. They've been blasting away champions in multiple divisions. Still have hope Spence will do the same.
@@voongnz Agreed for the most part, but keep in mind that Spence almost finished Porter..., my main issue with Crawford is that he gets Welterweight credit for his Jr Welterweight accomplishments. At some point, he has to test the waters at 147 and run through the top names like he did at 140... Khan was a name... Mean Machine? Not even worth debating.... Benavidez? Again...another unnecessary examination of his performance...I know that the PBC issue will come up so I’m glad he finally is fighting Brook. If Brook is still a little game, it will tell us a lot in regards to how Crawford looks.. It will be our first common denominator fight in which we’ll unnecessarily debate Spence’s performance vs Crawford’s lol... but, at least it’ll be something to go off of...
Lightweight division is the most exciting division right now.
Felix verdejo the sleeper of that division
Tank is willing to take one to give one. Makes for great fights.
That exact punch Tank threw was one of Tysons signature KO punches
Gervonta is like 3 inches shorter than Santa Cruz
Boxing is divided by WEIGHT classes,
Not height.
I hope Max got his daughter the Jordans she wanted.
I hope she gets the Jamal she been dreaming about
Royal Bey underrated comment
Why can’t I find the fights highlights on CZcams
Edgar berlanga is the new mike tyson bro
S/o to him
People telling him to calm down when he’s been covering boxing for decades. He might have a point
Ur a Chelsea fan keep quiet
🔴NOTICE ESPN WONT TALK ABOUT WILDER COMING OUT AND CALLING FURY OUT ON HIS CHEATING SMH
What happened how'd he cheat?
@@emanijudah6985 he didn't, just excuses and if wilder actually believe all the things he says " glove gate, spiked water and so on" take it to court
Until then he a soar loser
Most the fights gervonta fight gonna be small because he so strong
I Can’t wait until E.S.Jr comes back 💯
I guess Spence just isn’t in the convo no more? 🤔
ESPN only talks about top rank fighters for the most part. Tank is a superstar so that's why they discussing him.
2:57 he was mentioned what do you mean
Right😢
Bad car accident. He’s my favorite fighter but his career maybe over
@@SportsShorts_2.0 - Everybody says he's better, I believe it. He somehow escaped that wreck with no serious injury besides losing a couple teeth
everyone acts surprized about this ko Tank Davis was supposed to do that Loe Santa Cruz was the smaller fighter.
Leo never been KO'ed, and had been knockdown one time from a rabbit punch, you say this like Leo has a glass jaw
@@youngestmvp833 He stated the facts. Only casuals and Tank Davis fans react the way you do.
@@youngestmvp833 if thats what you took from my comment then you know nothing of boxing.
Just listen to MAX! He's the EXPERT ON BOXING! This is what he does!
Max had the best point when it came to this segment.
Wow, Tyson? Can we at least wait for Gervonta to become Undisputed Lightweight Champion? Can we at least wait for Gervonta to beat a +32-0 opponent in a championship bout?
They're talking about in terms of explosiveness and power compared to the rest of his division. It's not a bad comparison to make, and even Mike said Gervonta is his favorite fighter, probably because he's reminded of a young him when Tank fights.
432-0? Who had that record? That's crazy!
@@Astonvman007 I think you read that wrong lol
Gamboa has 3 losses smh but that’s a lot of guys according to max lol
That small Japanese dude is pretty exciting also!
I think they both fought Saturday night.
hez got Crazy fast-twitchies....lol max k
also love the Max Holloway reference 👍
Wait was wrong with twitchies ? Explain?
Lmao don’t ever compare this kid to Tyson
hate is what you bring to this comment section! sad!
Why not? People are so fascinated with the older greats that they never believe anybody could ever be as good as them if not better 🤦🏾♂️. Get that hate out ya heart
Wish max would get a show where he could talk about boxing for an hour instead of these short clips.
@Boxing Tapes he already has one 🤣
That tank knock out punch is still heard across the globe today. Just this morning Sydney Australia reported they heard sat night’s knock out at 6am this morning. And bogota Columbia claimed they heard it round sunset! N Literally Just hit Hawaii 20 minutes ago. 🤷🏻♂️
Tank is 5’5” and yet Max keeps calling Santa Cruz the naturally smaller man despite him being taller with longer arms. He was actually walking Tank down until the body shots started to kick in.
@MUNCHIE RAY l get your point about Canelo and Khan however that’s not a good example. At no point in that fight did anybody feel like Tank was a bigger man than Santa Cruz