Evil is not the word to describe this piece of crap. Did he really think he would get away with this murder. Why should we waste money taking care of him when it could be used for education, housing, etc.
The complete lack of emotion and the sense of arrogance and entitlement of this individual is very disturbing. He scares me. He should have the same treatment he gave his parents. This is horrific.
Incredible rebuttal. Pointing out the fact that his mother paid for everything that he used in their murders was highly effective. He is a total monster!
I just got done watching a documentary about this from dreading (true crime YT channel) and I left a comment saying that exact same thing. That he used his parents money to buy all of those “supplies” he had, pictured in the video from inside the home. Absolutely sickening.. gut wrenching.. he is a monster.
That rebuttal closing was amazing!! She absolutely nailed it!! What a sad sad horrible case this is. After 20 years of watching trials this is by far the most evil I've ever seen. God bless that poor family.
@@jsterling6805 Yes I agree the Jodi Arias case was horrific as well. The Rosenbaum trail was another sad case. I mean they are all really sad aren't they. Poor families. This Guy trial is definitely on a whole another level that is so disturbing though.
I've been watching trials for a long time, too. I thought her opening statement was one of the best I've ever seen. I'm going to watch it again now that I've watched the whole trial. From her open: (referencing the totes in which the victims were found): "...a diabolical stew of human remains." My goodness, that sounds like something you'd hear in a movie. She's got a way with words.
Their own client is working against them. He changed from the insanity plea, which was his only hope, and wants the death penalty against their advice. So f'--- it. Not worth it. I've seen defense attorneys say "The defense rests, Your Honor," without doing another thing.
I kinda feel bad for them. You can just imagine what they were thinking upon getting the case like, “what am I supposed to say to advocate for you...?“ Attorneys have an ethical responsibility to advocate for their client, but sometimes I wonder if secretly, inside, theyre ever like, “he totally did this & is a Dangerous person.”
Just pure evil. He has NO soul. So glad this is one that will never hurt another innocent human being. One down many more to go. He will NEVER survive prison. Prayers for this beautiful couples family and friends. May God grant them strength to overcome this evil with love. Grant them peace and comfort.
Did anyone else notice that he started to smirk or smile when they were talking about the part where his mom left Walmart didn’t have a care in the world but little did she know that she was walking into a trap to be killed I swear To God he smiled a little
I think he had a real bad relationship with his parents, especially his mom. And it didn’t happen overnight, he planned out thus gruesome day. He is devil possessed.
Andrea P There was another part in one of the other videos can’t remember which one where the medical examiner said to the DA oh I’m sorry to “cut you off” and he started to smile then too! He almost snickered or laughed! Then there was a part I think it was in closing statements were the DA said something about he put their body parts in those tubs making some crazy stew, I can’t remember the exact words but he took a pen and wrote it down and smiled and looked like he was gonna laugh!! He’s so creepy
I couldn’t see it there, I went back and looked, I think he just has a weird face with his ocd eyes, he did smirk when the prosecution opened and she said he made a “diabolical stew”
How anyone could do this to another human is crazy, but to do it to your own parents who are still financially supporting you when you are 30 is just insane! The only time I saw him break his smirk was when his ‘roommate’ testified. The only person he had any emotion about.
Nothing worse then murder from parents to children or child to parent. Imagine this couple pregnant for 9 months probably over the top excited to spend the rest of their life’s with their new baby and little did they know he’d be the demise of them.
@@sandyandersonadkins.9145 Um...you don't carry a demon through gestation, they're molded and shaped in their impressionable years. They're created through influence, not born that way.
@@sandyandersonadkins.9145 On the criteria of knowledge alone, in contrast to your lack of knowledge, yes. I never asked whether you cared or didn't, I simply enlightened you in how adults become what they are by way of influence/s throughout their impressionable years.
I get the feeling he didn’t have a happy childhood Something happened brain damage his eyes look like someone who has overactive thyroid bulging eyes seem Yes evil
More than likely, not to break the belief, he is extremely tired. Probably hasn't slept very much at all since the trial started, has been sitting through extremely long processes while awaiting his inevitable doom, and these closing statements are extremely long-winded and likely something he has heard dozens, if not hundreds of times, on top of literally experiencing it; he's tired, widening his eyes to remain awake, classic sign of boredom and fatigue.
I wish this guy just plead guilty the defense literally said nothing there was no defense he just wasn’t ready to go to big house and wanted to relive his crimes disgusting!
Let this be a warning to all those parents who enable their teenage/adult children to be useless and dependant on them.. Stand on your own two feet 🦶🏽 🦶🏽
A message to single mothers who think they don't need a man? Those people? Because if you ACTUALLY listened throughout the entire trial they state that the father was at ends with his dependency and HIS MOTHER was the one who continued to coddle him. This idiot was lazy and had FAR TOO MUCH time on his hands - which was the proponent for his murdering scheme. Idle hands...
The power point presentation of the evidence was so well orchestrated with it's time lines, cctv footage, receipts, bank withdrawals, photographs with strips of the hand written notes from the notebook above. Wow that took a lot of man hours and work. Truly amazing👏
I sort of feel Bad for the defence lawyer. Like.... it’s so beyond obvious his client is sick evil and twisted and committed the crimes but he still had to defend him. You can tell his closing argument is not heartfelt. But he still has to go through with the motion. It’s uncomfortable watching his closing cause it’s so contrived and unconvincing. Can’t blame him though. I guess throw stuff out there and see what sticks.
yeah hats off to his defense lawyer bc me personally i would quit and let him deal w it on his own. trying to find some kind of defense is impossible in this case so the fact that he tried shows that he’s just trying to do his job
Cannot begin to understand what was going 0n in his mind like bro those were your parents!how could u!why would you!sick f !prayers to all those affected by this!
It's sad an unfortunately that quite a number of able bodies adults are refusing to take responsibility for their own lives and would rather lean heavily on their aged parents with the intent to rob them of their hard working life savings; and in this case to even kill. Parents you need to be very discerning as it may save you from a similar fate!
No matter if parents indulge and spoil their children?? It is NOT their fault when a child does this type of thing. I wonder if you are a parent? My best friend of 33 years was the best mom you could ever dream of. Yes - she DID let them "eat dessert before dinner" etc. EVERYTHING pointed to these kids being amazing, and I mean everything. Circumstances happened that her husband of 25 years (seemed to be a normal loving person) up and left and tried to take the kids that were 12 and 17. He was willing to give them anything they wanted They turned on her so fast it was breathtaking. All for money and things and priviledge. and I do not think for two seconds it was because she "let them eat dessert before dinner" They saw opportunity to get whatever they could and whatever they wanted from their dad. I do NOT think that how they were raised would turn them so evil.
8:48 "Little did Lisa Guy know.." - and he freaking SMIRKS during those words.. i have no words. He needs to get the same treatment he put his parents through.
She is clearly disturbed by this guy. And did an amazing job. He seems bothered by her delivery and I’m glad someone made him squirm even for a few minutes
I didn’t follow the case closely but I have the overwhelming feeling that he literally just didn’t want to or know how to support himself and be an adult. And because he’s a psychopath, he thought he’d just murder his parents in such a gruesome way and obvious that he was bound to face life in prison. He never needs to think about getting a job or a place to live again; everything is organized and provided. Scumbag.
Outgoing, friendly, happy....because he thought he was going to get $500,000 Oh, he didn't wait for Christmas to kill them...why wait? He wasn't going to commit murder? He brought the kill kit with him TO THANKSGIVING DINNER. I know the guy has to try but COME ON!
Andrew Orahoske Lisa was his biological mother. Joel Sr. had 3 daughters from a previous marriage, and the girls lived primarily with their mom and spent summers with Joel Sr, Lisa and Joel Jr.
Fantastic closing by the prosecutor, clear and concise. No need to hear the defenses run around, I’ll spend those 30 minutes doing something else. Good job boys
This man must be entirely insane to do this to his parents-- particularly decapitating and simmering his MOTHER"S HEAD. Absolutely disgusting. It's one thing to want your parents' money, but it's quite another to go to this perverse extreme.
His attorney was trying to fight a losing case. Ridiculous defense closing statements but he was trying. I can’t imagine being in the defense attorney’s position.
I kinda feel bad for the defense lawyers, they literally have nothing to work with to defend this monster.. they must be public defenders to go in knowing they won’t win the case.
I'm assuming in this case the lawyer probably wasn't getting much work and thought taking this case knowing that monster was guilty and definitely loosing the trial , lawyer looses a trial still gets paid and possibly a few job's inn the hope's of some free publicity 🤷♀️ only logical sense I can make of the lawyer defending such vile sad case
By the end of the prosecutor's arguments he does seem visibly shaken (even though he barley shows emotion). I think it was potato salad comment that got him.
Joel Guy Jr's punishment is having to listen to his attorney defending him. I'm surprised given his behavior in court with inappropriate smiling and laughing, he didn't burst out laughing at this guy's RIDICULOUS defense!!
@@RBLong0928 Well he has some kind of facial movements which could be interpreted as smirking. I definitely saw him never laugh during proceeds but believe he smirked a couple times but did his best to supress it. The reasons being comical situations in the court room, like when some in the audience smiled too. When the prosecution asked the doc "can you hear me" he sort of smirked imo.
Barbie it was a previous trial segment...there were a few times during horrifying testimony he was talking with his attorney literally laughing and smiling.
Something tells me the guy friend knows a lot more, he just saved him and didn’t say a word. They loved together and were involved more then we know. We should watch him, closely. He didn’t like being questioned whatsoever
omg i just noticed the back of Mrs Guys pants have no stab marks remember they said he stabbed her multiple times in the buttocks but when you look at the back of the pants they are only cut. so after he took off her clothes he was stabbing her even after she was dead
During the end of closing arguments, notice how he's not suppressing a smile anymore, the prosecutors words wiped the smirk right off rat boys face. He knows he's going to prison for the rest of his life.
The defense attorney was grasping at straws. But we already knew that he had no defense back on day 1 when his two minute opening statement consisted of thanking the jury members for their service and advising them to listen for reasonable doubt in the State's evidence.
He was outgoing and happy with his sister Michelle because he was looking forward to the money "he thought" he was going to obtain. He didn't want to be a suspect. How do you pretend not to be a suspect? You just heard it from his attorney!!
Masterful rebuttal by Prosecutor Leslie Nassios. It was so impactful when she pointed at the portable shelving unit stacked with evidence bags and said; "she paid for all of this," (referring to the fact that the defendant's mom financially carried and bankrolled every part of this grown man's life.) This bloated mosquito purchased all of the materials to kill and dismember his parents using the money that his Mom gave him. He never worked a day in his life. What a disgusting, weak, hideous little toad he is. No offense to toads.
Is it just me, or was there a slight smile on Joel Guy Jr’s face when the prosecutor showed his mother exiting Walmart and says “little did Lisa Guy know the terror that awaited her.” I’ve never seen a monster in a horror movie that’s as scary as this creature. It’s incredible how things like Joel manage to get through life undetected.
i dont think his eyes could have gotten any wider jesus he just looks like a nutball....he has literally no emotions seeing the photos and videos and no emotions to the families speaking bout the loss. he just sat there totally emotionless (other than maybe a smirk or two)
Right?? Not to mention, it is Well-known that a chunk of people get seemingly calmer & happier right before committing an act of violence, if for the excitement for the violence itself or the potential rewards.
Really? The defense seems to be hoping that “outgoing, friendly and happy” will be their equivalent to: “if it doesn’t fit, you must acquit.” We all realize you don’t have much to work with but seriously?? Good luck with that.
Great prosecuting closing and excellent rebuttal. This guy is a spoiled entitled brat with no conscience . Even during this trial he is trying to get the insurance pay off.There is no emotion from him during all this. He looks like he is watching a movie.
I wouldn't want to be on the defense team. I'm surprised he didn't just say, look...he did it, no doubt. .then plead for less prison time. But, to attack the prosecution's case is just ineffective and may have an adverse result that will cause jurors to detest the defense for thinking they can't reason thru the obvious evidence. I'm not sure why he thought the bodies would degrade so much they wouldn't be able to determine cause of death or why he didn"t follow thru with his plan of disposing evidence. Did he get tired from all the physical and emotional exertion it took to do what he had done? Why did he go ahead and use the money to pay his bills knowing full well this was traceable and would end with his arrest. He knew he eventually would be caught..just left too much evidence. ..so why go on with the charade. He obviously was not happy after and knew the life he earlier envisioned was never to come to fruition. I hope we will learn more regarding his train of thought before, during and after this horrific event.
I know a person who is an adult who grew up to hate a parent because the parent coddled them so badly as a child that they had difficult time standing on their own two feet, failure to launch, afraid of the world, and to this day has no respect for that parent as an adult even though as a child they liked being coddled. Joel Jrs parents coddled him and he grew to hate them. He didn’t love them and had no problems killing them. He blamed them for his inabilities to get along independent of them. Then when they cut him off, the hate he always felt took action. Just my opinion.
The dufus figured out how to be taken care of for life. Now we all get to pay for him for the rest of his life. And I think he gets to attend courses from jail too. Ugh.
When the male attorney says "Little did she know.....the terror that awaited her" watch this piece of garbage hold back a smile!! I can't believe this is a human, walking amongst us...and to think there may be more terrifies me.
These poor people gave him their whole life. And then he took their lives when they were ready to relax .. May god bless them and welcome them in Heaven. He has no tears to regret what he did.
Looks as if SODDI defense fails they are going to fall back on faulty/ineffective evidence. At this point I am surprised they didn't throw in crime in the heat of passion!
Exactly what I was thinking! Also I think this is why he wanted the death penalty. Death row prisoners live a cushy life on death row with tv’s in their cells and other comforts and with all of the legal motions it can take 20 years before the execution is carried out.
I thought the same thing. he won't have to pay any bills and will be provided food, shelter, health care and even some recreation and education programs all for free. He will be a burden of the state the rest of his pathetic life. The scariest thing for him is no longer an issue. That being responsibility.
How on earth was this attorney supposed to put on a defense? He didn't cross examine anyone. What could he even say in closing against ALL of that forensic and other evidence?
Evil jerk to rob his parents of a wonderful life they worked so hard for!!! Sickening!!
Evil is not the word to describe this piece of crap. Did he really think he would get away with this murder.
Why should we waste money taking care of him when it could be used for education, housing, etc.
@@LivingJust4Me Why are you asking rhetorical questions? That's the real question.
The complete lack of emotion and the sense of arrogance and entitlement of this individual is very disturbing. He scares me. He should have the same treatment he gave his parents. This is horrific.
yes tha parents sure created a monster
It's like as he is watching everything back, he is proud and reliving every moment. Not a moment of remorse or tear is those big creepy eyes of his!
@@NondescriptMammal yeah something really off and creepy about his appearance and those eyes! 👁👁
I pray that this monster is never allowed to set foot out of prison alive.
Every serial killer that has ever walked this planet couldn't hold a candle to the creepiness of this guy
@Sickofit November probably a mixture of all three but most definitely something demonic has to be behind those eyes! 👹
Pop eyed Satan.
Wow, that prosecution rebuttal. That was truly excellent, she nailed it.
Totally nailed it!
Sure did!
She's absolutely BRILLIANT
Absolutely! She brought up a few points that I hadn’t considered!
Yes, the way she timestamps Lisa's last day among other attributes of her closing thats exceptional
Incredible rebuttal. Pointing out the fact that his mother paid for everything that he used in their murders was highly effective. He is a total monster!
I just got done watching a documentary about this from dreading (true crime YT channel) and I left a comment saying that exact same thing. That he used his parents money to buy all of those “supplies” he had, pictured in the video from inside the home. Absolutely sickening.. gut wrenching.. he is a monster.
He seems so disconnected to reality this entire trial. He looks like he's watching a documentary about someone else.
Yes, and notice how his eyes occasionally seem to pop out of their sockets? Weirdo!
Yes I was just going to say how his eyes widen, so strange!
I think he’s actually fascinated and surprised by how much the police and experts were able to reconstruct. Weirdo, indeed.
He seems to enjoy the attention like a egotistical person would. Didn't the mom and dad or family see his strangeness long before it came to this.
This is a fabulous judge assertive and confident.Respectful even to the killer the judge deserves respect and he is very professional.
Agreed. Great judge.
That rebuttal closing was amazing!! She absolutely nailed it!!
What a sad sad horrible case this is. After 20 years of watching trials this is by far the most evil I've ever seen.
God bless that poor family.
Jodie arias case was one of the worst prior to this.
@@jsterling6805 Yes I agree the Jodi Arias case was horrific as well. The Rosenbaum trail was another sad case. I mean they are all really sad aren't they. Poor families.
This Guy trial is definitely on a whole another level that is so disturbing though.
I've been watching trials for a long time, too. I thought her opening statement was one of the best I've ever seen. I'm going to watch it again now that I've watched the whole trial.
From her open: (referencing the totes in which the victims were found): "...a diabolical stew of human remains." My goodness, that sounds like something you'd hear in a movie. She's got a way with words.
How long did it take the jury to find him guilty?
@@niania7022 two hours. And I'm guessing that was for the other charges and degrees.
Holy crap what a weak defense. But to his attorneys credit, they didn’t have much to work with.
I think the defense is weak on purpose. They know. They obviously were not trying too hard.
He probably took this loser just for the money.
@@blyxx7450 usual story for defence
Their own client is working against them. He changed from the insanity plea, which was his only hope, and wants the death penalty against their advice. So f'--- it.
Not worth it. I've seen defense attorneys say "The defense rests, Your Honor," without doing another thing.
I kinda feel bad for them. You can just imagine what they were thinking upon getting the case like, “what am I supposed to say to advocate for you...?“
Attorneys have an ethical responsibility to advocate for their client, but sometimes I wonder if secretly, inside, theyre ever like, “he totally did this & is a Dangerous person.”
Just pure evil. He has NO soul. So glad this is one that will never hurt another innocent human being. One down many more to go. He will NEVER survive prison. Prayers for this beautiful couples family and friends. May God grant them strength to overcome this evil with love. Grant them peace and comfort.
Did anyone else notice that he started to smirk or smile when they were talking about the part where his mom left Walmart didn’t have a care in the world but little did she know that she was walking into a trap to be killed I swear To God he smiled a little
I think he had a real bad relationship with his parents, especially his mom. And it didn’t happen overnight, he planned out thus gruesome day. He is devil possessed.
Yes, he did smirked
Yes I saw the same thing. Wow!!
Andrea P There was another part in one of the other videos can’t remember which one where the medical examiner said to the DA oh I’m sorry to “cut you off” and he started to smile then too! He almost snickered or laughed! Then there was a part I think it was in closing statements were the DA said something about he put their body parts in those tubs making some crazy stew, I can’t remember the exact words but he took a pen and wrote it down and smiled and looked like he was gonna laugh!! He’s so creepy
Caroline Di yes!!! So creepy!!!
Seeing this and thinking about how much I love my parents and feeling this sense of rage.
He had a slight smile when the prosecutor said "she had no idea of the terror that awaited her". My God, how twisted he is....
I noticed that too...sickening
I couldn’t see it there, I went back and looked, I think he just has a weird face with his ocd eyes, he did smirk when the prosecution opened and she said he made a “diabolical stew”
How anyone could do this to another human is crazy, but to do it to your own parents who are still financially supporting you when you are 30 is just insane! The only time I saw him break his smirk was when his ‘roommate’ testified. The only person he had any emotion about.
“Roommate”
Lover
Jobbie jabbers
They suck each other’s peters
Sad cause his roomate didn't want him in that way. Such a waste of a human being.
Nothing worse then murder from parents to children or child to parent. Imagine this couple pregnant for 9 months probably over the top excited to spend the rest of their life’s with their new baby and little did they know he’d be the demise of them.
It makes a female want to have her uterus removed, I'd hate carrying a demon like that F .
@@sandyandersonadkins.9145 Um...you don't carry a demon through gestation, they're molded and shaped in their impressionable years. They're created through influence, not born that way.
@@judahsoremy9857 I don't care how that maggot was molded. He had loving, caring parents.... Now what? Are you a child expert?
@@sandyandersonadkins.9145 On the criteria of knowledge alone, in contrast to your lack of knowledge, yes.
I never asked whether you cared or didn't, I simply enlightened you in how adults become what they are by way of influence/s throughout their impressionable years.
I get the feeling he didn’t have a happy childhood Something happened brain damage his eyes look like someone who has overactive thyroid bulging eyes seem Yes evil
He is so disgusting. The way his eyes dart around makes me think he's replaying the events.
Yeah, that's what I thought too. It's like he's having flashbacks. Especially when his eyes get big.
More than likely, not to break the belief, he is extremely tired. Probably hasn't slept very much at all since the trial started, has been sitting through extremely long processes while awaiting his inevitable doom, and these closing statements are extremely long-winded and likely something he has heard dozens, if not hundreds of times, on top of literally experiencing it; he's tired, widening his eyes to remain awake, classic sign of boredom and fatigue.
I wish this guy just plead guilty the defense literally said nothing there was no defense he just wasn’t ready to go to big house and wanted to relive his crimes disgusting!
I agree 100%
Agreed
Let this be a warning to all those parents who enable their teenage/adult children to be useless and dependant on them.. Stand on your own two feet 🦶🏽 🦶🏽
Still, nothing justifies killing.
Because if you don't, your son or daughter will cut off your feet and put em in a pot.
A message to single mothers who think they don't need a man? Those people? Because if you ACTUALLY listened throughout the entire trial they state that the father was at ends with his dependency and HIS MOTHER was the one who continued to coddle him.
This idiot was lazy and had FAR TOO MUCH time on his hands - which was the proponent for his murdering scheme. Idle hands...
No child asked to be born, though. While we're all at it, why don't we just stop breeding?
@@phoenixdavida8987 It's too bad your mother didn't support that sentiment.
The power point presentation of the evidence was so well orchestrated with it's time lines, cctv footage, receipts, bank withdrawals, photographs with strips of the hand written notes from the notebook above. Wow that took a lot of man hours and work. Truly amazing👏
I sort of feel Bad for the defence lawyer. Like.... it’s so beyond obvious his client is sick evil and twisted and committed the crimes but he still had to defend him. You can tell his closing argument is not heartfelt. But he still has to go through with the motion. It’s uncomfortable watching his closing cause it’s so contrived and unconvincing. Can’t blame him though. I guess throw stuff out there and see what sticks.
yeah hats off to his defense lawyer bc me personally i would quit and let him deal w it on his own. trying to find some kind of defense is impossible in this case so the fact that he tried shows that he’s just trying to do his job
“Outgoing, friendly and happy” yes I imagine he was. He thought he was getting away with half a million dollar bills.
Safe💯
That’s not even what his sister said lol
Weakest defense I've ever heard. But then again, there wasn't much to work with.
It was intentional, come on.
@@kadzo6614 I am pretty sure Matt was being sarcastic.
Gotta give him credit for just standing up lookin a foo defending this guy, I mean they didn't have a defense.
The prosecution did a great rebuttal!
Mel Mack I agree!!! Really pointing things out!
Mel Mack it was perfectly written with just enough emotion!
Mel Mack Amazing rebuttal. You can tell this prosecutor is really passionately affected by this case.
Cannot begin to understand what was going 0n in his mind like bro those were your parents!how could u!why would you!sick f !prayers to all those affected by this!
He loved money and himself above else.
1 TIMOTHY 6:10
The DA is really good here. Really captivating closing argument.
The defense's closing argument was terrible. I'm just saying.
I would do the same to make sure he's guilty for sure 🤣
Pitiful
There didn’t seem to be anything to defend!
Gail Katzovitz Linsk correct, and the defense was court appointed. No private defense would have touched this case
Totally agree, grasping at invisible straws
Yeah he was outgoing friendly and happy cause all he was thinking was 🤑 $500,000.00
It's sad an unfortunately that quite a number of able bodies adults are refusing to take responsibility for their own lives and would rather lean heavily on their aged parents with the intent to rob them of their hard working life savings; and in this case to even kill. Parents you need to be very discerning as it may save you from a similar fate!
Yea I agree I moved out in my early twenties this guy a narcissist look at his facial expressions 🤪
No matter if parents indulge and spoil their children?? It is NOT their fault when a child does this type of thing. I wonder if you are a parent? My best friend of 33 years was the best mom you could ever dream of. Yes - she DID let them "eat dessert before dinner" etc. EVERYTHING pointed to these kids being amazing, and I mean everything. Circumstances happened that her husband of 25 years (seemed to be a normal loving person) up and left and tried to take the kids that were 12 and 17. He was willing to give them anything they wanted They turned on her so fast it was breathtaking. All for money and things and priviledge. and I do not think for two seconds it was because she "let them eat dessert before dinner" They saw opportunity to get whatever they could and whatever they wanted from their dad. I do NOT think that how they were raised would turn them so evil.
Look what this monster did to them, his own parents!!!! This is so horrific!!!
8:48 "Little did Lisa Guy know.." - and he freaking SMIRKS during those words.. i have no words. He needs to get the same treatment he put his parents through.
I don't see a smirk. In fact..
..I am amazed how his expression stay the same.
@@RBLong0928 it's actually at 5:44 and he does smirk right when the prosecutor says "little did Lisa Guy know, of the terror that awaited her"
Yes! I noticed the same thing!
Oh, sorry, i messed up the time. My bad 🤦🏼♀️
YES! I noticed the same thing!
The Defence has a big fat nothing!
It was intentional.
Yes, they know that !😬
He has no soul heartless monster
This is the first time I see some pictures presented in the courtroom on YT. Thank you for showing this case as is! 🎉
OMG! That defense attorney is grounds for incompetent representation. smdh On second thought, I guess that's all he had to go on really.
Joel Guy wanted to represent himself but was denied. The defense attorney's are just there to facilitate Joel Guy's self-representation.
@@BizarreBazaarBW, old saying goes: Someone that represents themselves has a fool for a client.
The defense was going through the motions just barely doing their duty.
The prosecutor 's clsing argument was magnificent! I think it almost brought him to tears. Those poor people! May they rest in paradise 🙏
She is clearly disturbed by this guy. And did an amazing job. He seems bothered by her delivery and I’m glad someone made him squirm even for a few minutes
Mrs Prosecutor is absolutely BRILLIANT AND SO ARTICULATE🙌 awesome job representing that family's need for closure and justice served!!
There has to be more to this story then just greed and laziness.....
I didn’t follow the case closely but I have the overwhelming feeling that he literally just didn’t want to or know how to support himself and be an adult. And because he’s a psychopath, he thought he’d just murder his parents in such a gruesome way and obvious that he was bound to face life in prison. He never needs to think about getting a job or a place to live again; everything is organized and provided. Scumbag.
Julia Xoxo psychopathy
Why? Fear of living responsibly and getting cut off financially.
@@katyalupochev9589 he would have plead guilty if that’s what he wanted.
Im still in amazement and stil heartbroken over these loses, Rip to Mother and Father
The fact he can seat there emotionless shows he did it. Anyone who didn’t would be clearly upset about the whole situation
seriously they would cry having to see their parents dead body over and over again
This prosecutor is excellent obviously very experienced and good at her job
The judge just hoped they all had a good lunch..How do you have a good lunch after this grusome trial?
exactly what i was thinking
U weren’t there. Trials are long. Long days. Relax
You become disconnected after long trials like this.
He had no other choices y'all, that poor man lmaoo.
"Out going, friendly, happy, yeah I bet he was!" Too funny. Love this woman
The Killers eyes are crazy.
Outgoing, friendly, happy....because he thought he was going to get $500,000
Oh, he didn't wait for Christmas to kill them...why wait?
He wasn't going to commit murder? He brought the kill kit with him TO THANKSGIVING DINNER.
I know the guy has to try but COME ON!
what in the world caused him to hate them so much????
@Andrew Orahoske I thought the family said he wasLisa's only child?
Andrew Orahoske Lisa was his biological mother. Joel Sr. had 3 daughters from a previous marriage, and the girls lived primarily with their mom and spent summers with Joel Sr, Lisa and Joel Jr.
“Outgoing, friendly and happy” 🙄
Like Chucky
That they were going to die
@Nelson Robert Willis well how di you defend the indefensible
What a tough job.. being a Defense Attorney!!
I know we need them, but still.... tough!
Probably all the oxycodone he stole from his parents!
Why is the defense even bothering to speak? His poor attorney is on deaths door 🚪
Lmao the defence closing argument. You lost before you begun.
I think thst was the defense making sure he gettings lock up
That guy scares me because how many other people are quietly making plans, they just haven't struck yet.
It's ALWAYS in the eyes
Fantastic closing by the prosecutor, clear and concise. No need to hear the defenses run around, I’ll spend those 30 minutes doing something else. Good job boys
This man must be entirely insane to do this to his parents-- particularly decapitating and simmering his MOTHER"S HEAD. Absolutely disgusting. It's one thing to want your parents' money, but it's quite another to go to this perverse extreme.
His attorney was trying to fight a losing case. Ridiculous defense closing statements but he was trying. I can’t imagine being in the defense attorney’s position.
That woman attorney at the end of closing nailed it👏🏻🙌🏻
The "outgoing, friendly, and happy" ax murderer.
Mostly peaceful
But, "Happy people have endorphins, so, happy people don't kill their husbands" (or their parents). Legally Blonde. .... LOL
There is no way anyone can defend this man who killed his parents.
I kinda feel bad for the defense lawyers, they literally have nothing to work with to defend this monster.. they must be public defenders to go in knowing they won’t win the case.
I'm assuming in this case the lawyer probably wasn't getting much work and thought taking this case knowing that monster was guilty and definitely loosing the trial , lawyer looses a trial still gets paid and possibly a few job's inn the hope's of some free publicity 🤷♀️ only logical sense I can make of the lawyer defending such vile sad case
Is he smirking??? 😳
Rach Yes I believe he is. I have noticed that several times during the trial. Sickening.
Seems he wants attention and fame maybe.
Yup he smirked a lot!! 🤬🤬
yeah but will he be smirking with Bubba in prison ?🤣🤣🤣
YEP! POS 🤬🤮
By the end of the prosecutor's arguments he does seem visibly shaken (even though he barley shows emotion). I think it was potato salad comment that got him.
Im so curious, did they ever ask how he felt upon committing the attacks, why he decapitated her, how he felt seeing the FP/ME/Postmortem photos?
It looked to me like he was proud when they showed the court those photos. He's one sick puppy.
Just an insult to a puppy. He s a heartless souless monster
I think he hated women
He killed his dad? He had 40+, her 30+ this is baseless
@@LivsTanks He had no time for his sisters, I really think there is much more to this than money.
Zuleiga Hanslip regardless, the above sentiment is baseless
@Ryan Thompson I agree
Joel Guy Jr's punishment is having to listen to his attorney defending him. I'm surprised given his behavior in court with inappropriate smiling and laughing, he didn't burst out laughing at this guy's RIDICULOUS defense!!
I never saw him laughing or smirking. Can someone give me a timestamp?
@@RBLong0928 Well he has some kind of facial movements which could be interpreted as smirking. I definitely saw him never laugh during proceeds but believe he smirked a couple times but did his best to supress it. The reasons being comical situations in the court room, like when some in the audience smiled too. When the prosecution asked the doc "can you hear me" he sort of smirked imo.
Barbie it was a previous trial segment...there were a few times during horrifying testimony he was talking with his attorney literally laughing and smiling.
Man I don’t know if The worlds biggest defense attorney would be able to defend this man.
@@kassi3538 The best attorney in the world could not have presented a decent defense.
Something tells me the guy friend knows a lot more, he just saved him and didn’t say a word. They loved together and were involved more then we know. We should watch him, closely. He didn’t like being questioned whatsoever
omg i just noticed the back of Mrs Guys pants have no stab marks remember they said he stabbed her multiple times in the buttocks but when you look at the back of the pants they are only cut. so after he took off her clothes he was stabbing her even after she was dead
My God how does it come to this how?prayers to the family🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Look how fast ol' boy is breathing...look closely, you'll see it...it's during the ladies closing statement. He knows his goose is cooked!!
During the end of closing arguments, notice how he's not suppressing a smile anymore, the prosecutors words wiped the smirk right off rat boys face. He knows he's going to prison for the rest of his life.
FIRST CHANCE FOR PAROLE WILL BE IN 102 YEARS, HE'LL BE A RIPE 133 YEARS OLD THEN, AND STIFF, 6 FEET UNDER.
Im thinking inmates will take care of him long before that if he's in open population.
The defense attorney was grasping at straws. But we already knew that he had no defense back on day 1 when his two minute opening statement consisted of thanking the jury members for their service and advising them to listen for reasonable doubt in the State's evidence.
I think they're going for ineffective assistance of counsel.....aka "new trial" that he still won't win
Happy, friendly, outgoing.....That is because he had his eye on a lot of money. Sick sick man. I feel so bad for this family
He was outgoing and happy with his sister Michelle because he was looking forward to the money "he thought" he was going to obtain. He didn't want to be a suspect. How do you pretend not to be a suspect? You just heard it from his attorney!!
The female prosecuterer in the closing statement is great
Masterful rebuttal by Prosecutor Leslie Nassios. It was so impactful when she pointed at the portable shelving unit stacked with evidence bags and said; "she paid for all of this," (referring to the fact that the defendant's mom financially carried and bankrolled every part of this grown man's life.) This bloated mosquito purchased all of the materials to kill and dismember his parents using the money that his Mom gave him. He never worked a day in his life. What a disgusting, weak, hideous little toad he is. No offense to toads.
Is it just me, or was there a slight smile on Joel Guy Jr’s face when the prosecutor showed his mother exiting Walmart and says “little did Lisa Guy know the terror that awaited her.” I’ve never seen a monster in a horror movie that’s as scary as this creature. It’s incredible how things like Joel manage to get through life undetected.
Why does everyone say 'in' the floor instead of 'on' the floor?
wonder what his parents were saying while he was attacking and what if anthing he said.
I think about that often actually
What a ridiculous closing argument from the defense attorney!! Poor dude… I guess he really couldn’t say much else. 🤦🏻♀️
i dont think his eyes could have gotten any wider jesus he just looks like a nutball....he has literally no emotions seeing the photos and videos and no emotions to the families speaking bout the loss. he just sat there totally emotionless (other than maybe a smirk or two)
He was on a high before he did this..it was an anticipation of what he was going to do...period.
Right??
Not to mention, it is Well-known that a chunk of people get seemingly calmer & happier right before committing an act of violence, if for the excitement for the violence itself or the potential rewards.
Really? The defense seems to be hoping that “outgoing, friendly and happy” will be their equivalent to: “if it doesn’t fit, you must acquit.” We all realize you don’t have much to work with but seriously?? Good luck with that.
Great prosecuting closing and excellent rebuttal. This guy is a spoiled entitled brat with no conscience . Even during this trial he is trying to get the insurance pay off.There is no emotion from him during all this. He looks like he is watching a movie.
I wouldn't want to be on the defense team. I'm surprised he didn't just say, look...he did it, no doubt. .then plead for less prison time. But, to attack the prosecution's case is just ineffective and may have an adverse result that will cause jurors to detest the defense for thinking they can't reason thru the obvious evidence. I'm not sure why he thought the bodies would degrade so much they wouldn't be able to determine cause of death or why he didn"t follow thru with his plan of disposing evidence. Did he get tired from all the physical and emotional exertion it took to do what he had done? Why did he go ahead and use the money to pay his bills knowing full well this was traceable and would end with his arrest. He knew he eventually would be caught..just left too much evidence. ..so why go on with the charade. He obviously was not happy after and knew the life he earlier envisioned was never to come to fruition. I hope we will learn more regarding his train of thought before, during and after this horrific event.
I know a person who is an adult who grew up to hate a parent because the parent coddled them so badly as a child that they had difficult time standing on their own two feet, failure to launch, afraid of the world, and to this day has no respect for that parent as an adult even though as a child they liked being coddled.
Joel Jrs parents coddled him and he grew to hate them. He didn’t love them and had no problems killing them. He blamed them for his inabilities to get along independent of them. Then when they cut him off, the hate he always felt took action.
Just my opinion.
Defense is gaslighting us.
Reminds me of the swing states in the 2020 election. 'An honest and fair election!' Right.
This judge is great!! Kind, soft sproken, etc. The best I've seen watching on these court shows. He is tops! God Bless Him!!
The dufus figured out how to be taken care of for life. Now we all get to pay for him for the rest of his life. And I think he gets to attend courses from jail too. Ugh.
When the male attorney says "Little did she know.....the terror that awaited her" watch this piece of garbage hold back a smile!! I can't believe this is a human, walking amongst us...and to think there may be more terrifies me.
This defence team can not be serious lmfao
These poor people gave him their whole life. And then he took their lives when they were ready to relax .. May god bless them and welcome them in Heaven. He has no tears to regret what he did.
What a nightmare for this loving family.Prayers to find peace..
This guy is loving the attention
Looks as if SODDI defense fails they are going to fall back on faulty/ineffective evidence. At this point I am surprised they didn't throw in crime in the heat of passion!
I’m glad he got what he most wanted, to be taken care of. He’s even gonna get woken up for breakfast. He’s set for life! 😉
Exactly what I was thinking! Also I think this is why he wanted the death penalty. Death row prisoners live a cushy life on death row with tv’s in their cells and other comforts and with all of the legal motions it can take 20 years before the execution is carried out.
@@HandbagDiva prisons have tvs too, its the same as death row but more socialising
I thought the same thing. he won't have to pay any bills and will be provided food, shelter, health care and even some recreation and education programs all for free. He will be a burden of the state the rest of his pathetic life. The scariest thing for him is no longer an issue. That being responsibility.
@@ashbash635 you said it ! 👏
I think it was the dog howling from the bedroom that led Lisa upstairs. Maybe it was warning her to run.
How on earth was this attorney supposed to put on a defense? He didn't cross examine anyone. What could he even say in closing against ALL of that forensic and other evidence?
How was the pot simmering for days? The water wouldnt have lasted that long...
I think the burn stench would have been overwhelming.
He definitely accountable...hope he likes his new life...
It was so obvious that his mom wasn't gonna cut him off, most probably they were looking to shake him a little bit and man up.
I thought the defense at least would say "He's insane!"
He knew he was done when the defence lady was finishing up! He constantly was blinking the more she went on! He is so evil, not sick but evil!!!
That poor defense attorney. Bless his heart, I don't know how he could stand up there and try to make a closing argument with all of the evidence.