KRUPS Coffee Grinder Humming NOT Grinding - Can I Fix it?
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- čas přidán 7. 06. 2023
- In this Tea Break Fix we have a KRUPS F203 Coffee/Herb grinder. This one likes to hum instead of spin. Is something like this fixable? Let's find out.
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Remember that this is just for entertainment and I am not an expert in these repairs. The processes in the video may not be the best way, the correct way or the safest way to fix these things. I do love fault finding and trying to fix broken things, so I hope that comes across in this 'Trying to FIX' series. Many thanks, Vince. - Jak na to + styl
Another idea: You could have drilled out the plastic in the bottom just a bit so you could get a bigger screwdriver in. I don't think I would worry about touching any mains leads in there if the hole is just a bit bigger than how it comes from the factory.
Yes, in hindsight that would have been a better option. I wasn't sure how bad it was seized, but if I had known it was only just seized then it would have been a better fix 👍
@@Mymatevince All is not lost now that it's glued back together, I'd use a Dremel tool and grind a small slot on the top of the shaft where the blade attached. Then you could easily use a screwdriver from above by simply removing that blade. Alternatively determine the thread size and buy a nut (or preferably 2 jam nuts - they are thinner than regular nuts) to fit on the top that you could use to apply considerable torque with a wrench after removing the blade.
I would have heated my screwdriver up to cleanly melt the plastic similar to drilling.
@@christopherdecorte1599 Yeah I've done something similar using a soldering iron to turn a small hole into a larger hole. I agree with Vince this trend towards clips instead of screws is anti-repair.
@Nathan Hand its also due to penny pinching I built slot machines and the cost of screws even in bulk is not cheap. But as a consumer I rather pay the extra dollar for the screws.
Following this video, I just fixed my KRUPS F203 coffee grinder with this same humming but not spinning problem. Thanks!
The product label on my machine completely covered the hole on the bottom, but it's still easy to find. Like what others commented here, I drilled the existing hole bigger so I could fit in my screwdriver. The rest was easy.
Thanks Vince. My model was about 30 years old, same problem but didn't have any screwdriver slot so i drilled a hole through the bottom. Unfortunately the bit chewed up the shaft end slot so I had to take it apart anyhow.
You can get the bottom off without breaking the tabs by carefully levering through the 4 slots. I filed a new slot on the shaft so I could unscrew the rotor. You can then access a barbed collar which is around the top shaft to retain the dish. Ease each of the barbed segments in towards the shaft and you can then ease the stainless dish upwards. There are then 2 screws under the dish which hold the motor frame into the body. I stripped it all and re-oiled the bronze bushes. Works a treat now.
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That first whiff when you open a fresh pack of coffee 👌🏻👏🏻 always incredible, you can't beat it!! I just go around the supermarket squeezing all the packs and getting my coffee addict hit through those sniff holes 😅😂🤣
Vince - that was brilliant. I fixed mine by persevering with the screw at the bottom of the unit. Easy when you know how. Many thanks!
Couldn’t have been easier!! I can’t fix things, and this fixed the Krups in seconds!!! Thank you!
Great job Vince! The problem with blade grinders VS burr grinders that we use in coffee shops. Is the consistency, those blades kinda make it all shapes and sizes and a burr grinder will get it to exactly what you need.
Also grind sizes are
Very fine for espresso
More course for drip and pour over
And very course for cold brew.
The way I always remember it is, the longer the water is touching the beans the more course it needs to be. 🙏
Almost threw away my grinder before I found your video. Luckily mine just had three screws to remove instead of the clips so I think it’s still safe to use. Thanks for helping me keep it out of the landfill!
Thanks Vince. Had this exact problem, exact results. My grinder bottom is now held on with hot-pink tape, but it works again! Lesson learned: no water.
Nice work Vince. It’s depressing how many items are made to be difficult to fix. It truly is expected to be thrown away for the most part, when it was a very simple fix
I agree with others "drill the hole bigger" or would a power screw driver have worked? Great as always Vince!
Thank you. Mine just had clips but this saved me from having to buy a third one! I use it a lot!
Nice one Vince. I’m loving your videos!
Great Vid! I have one of these and works great for my usage. I tend to leave it a little coarser but I'm not trying to make espresso or similar coffee. Hope it continues to work for you. Good to know if mine locks up, hope is not lost. Thanks!
Good vid, simple fix. Btw, your Lavazza decaf is ground as fine as it is because it's to allow you to brew it either as a traditional coarse ground coffee in a regular coffee maker or as an espresso in an espresso machine under pressure. Regular ground coffee is much coarser otherwise.
Always enjoy your videos and your company thanks as always
I used a screwdriver to gently twist and it widened the plastic enough to let me adjust it. Works great now and took a couple minutes. This guide helped though thank you
Well, this is essentially not a mill but more like a mixer because it is cutting the beans into small piece instead of actually grinding them.
The hot glue fix has probably improved it. You now have a partially splash proof join which is better than factory. And its down the bottom where splashes could occur. I think it's fine.
great work love all of your vids keep up the good work
quick Q. If you'd turned the blade the opposite direction before opening it would that have freed the motor up rather than unscrew the blade ?
Yes, and the slot at the bottom is used to stop the shaft from rotating when installing the blade. I believe he mentions this though.
Gotta love how some brands call it a 'grinder' when it's really a 'chopper', there is a very real difference.
Oh yes! The yellow Map!💛 Also a good fix but no Idea how to make it better and safer.
Nice fix Vince, the most important is that you got it working again!
Maybe you just can take a plier at the axle there the knife sits next time and rotate it instead of opening up the lower part of it if it get´s stuck again!
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Yay the yellow mat is back.
Good fix but not sure i would chop beans with it. Beans are best milled by a proper burr grinder for control of the grind size. Makes a big difference to coffee taste.
And... You should have called it a coffee break fix 😊
What cant you fix Vince, great channel, keep it up 💰
easy fix vince keep up the good work
I have the exact same model. I've had it for about four years. The thing with these coffee grinders is not to use water to clean it.
It's dry grind anyway so all you need to do is wipe the inside with a dry tissue.
Shame the manufacturer didn't use a better quality material seal, but i think they do say in the manual not to use water anyway.
Who reads manuals? 🤣
An alternative title for this video could be: "A person discovers coffee grinder" haha. Great video, I'm a fan of your repairs, Vince. Greetings from Poland!
14:12 I recall very recently you remarking about how much you smell things in your videos 😂
Nice fix!
Hahaha, it's constant 😂
Lets hope he never has to repair a fleshlight!! 😂😂
@@Secret_Squirrel_Scottishgamer He won't smell that first ! 🤣
Cool tea break fix
Another Great Video Vince 👍I wonder if making that screwdriver hole at the bottom slightly bigger and perhaps using a rubber bung? then you could glue it back together and if it ever jammed you could turn it and perhaps add some oil by simply removing the bung. Keeps up the great work! 👍
tempted to buy a grinding machine and coffee maker now. But I love my full cups of Nescafe lol
Hey, Vince. I've been watching your videos for some while now. Keep up the good work. An idea for the coffee grinder: why not turn the spindle of the motor from above (where the blades were) ?
I love the way you buy faulty things to fix and use with other faulty things you fixed =D Coffee!!!!! ☕☕☕
Hahaha, yes my life is one big merry-go-round of dodgy fixes!
Ah yes, this tends to happen if my selected ‘herbs’ aren’t dry enough ! 😂
Recent testing of ground coffee showed that a less fine grind is better because there's improved water circulation through the ground coffee.
The capacitor is not for stopping noise going down the line, it's called a starting capacitor and it's common on all AC motors. It briefly increases the motor's starting torque, then taken out of the circuit by a centrifugal switch after the motor approaches maximum speed.
Vince, I highly recommend E-6000, B-6000 or B-7000 glue for your projects.
These are the differences (as far as I know):
E-6000 - (possibly thickest) has the most solid contents and less solvents. It's supposed to dry the fastest.
B-6000 - (possibly thinnest) has the least solid contents and more solvents. This one should be the easiest to spread over a bigger surface, such a shoe repair, etc.
B-7000 - supposedly the same as B-6000, but more of a generic version.
I think we can all agree to buy Vince different varieties of coffee beans for any Christmas or birthday gift
I shoved a screw driver and just Bruteforced it into a whole and fixed it... Thanks for the video I was trying to oil it from the top which got me nowhere..
The finer you grind your coffee beans the stronger the taste of the coffee will be. Really fine ground (like the Lavazzo) is especially for espresso. If you like a more regular coffee you need a more coarse ground coffee.
Plastic prying tools would do the job here. I’ve opened up a different coffee grinder with a very similar makeup and although time consuming, you can pry away at the clips (need to use multiple) and eventually comes away. And does not damage anything as using plastic, not a metal screwdriver
Vince, some screw driver metal shafts are squarish. This allows you to put a spanner or mole grips on them to get more torque to unstick stuck screws and such. Couldn’t tell if your screw driver shaft was so formed but maybe so. Give it a look mate. Either way, result!
You had the bigger handle still from the beginning. Just use the grinderblade in the right-tight direction for freeing the motor up, so the blade doesn't get loose. There was no need for a case opening. 😁
THANKS from Costa Rica...
I would have done a quick functionality test just activsting that interna l button directly before potentially reassembling a still faulty ( for some other unknown reason) unit.
Yes, the clips looked problematic so insread of opening it up I used a large screwdriver the size of the bottom slot (covered by a silver boilerplte lable) and wrenched a larger hole. The turned it an Voila!
Slight damge but recivered by the lable or piece of black electrical tape. I suspect my failure mode was from grinding coarse sugar to make it finer. Again, Thanks
Good fix. Hot glue probably better in this situation. Superglue (non gel types) just becomes brittle and can damage internal components. I wonder how good the seal under the blade is to prevent particles entering the motor etc. A family's got to know it's limitations.
Perfect tea break to go with my nightly cup of coffee.
😂👍
got to have your coffee
Just a bit of trivia. It was a krups coffee machine similarly designed to this that was used for mr fusion on back to the future 2’s delorean
Just use a drill bit to enlarge the hole in the base so you can access the screw with a larger screwdriver.
Hey Vince. If you had turned the blade in the opposite direction before dismantling, would that not have freed the motor rather than unscrewing the blade?
Vince I have a set of AirPod pros that I accidentally left in my pocket and they been through the washer would you like them to repair
The way to fix this a bit more could be by gluing nuts inside with epoxy, drill new holes from bottom and put 4 screws there. (as it should be done from the beginning)
But yeah, making the square hole bigger for a proper screwdriver and then getting a rubber plug for it would be much more easy.
Nice fix Vince I would of tried sitting the base in an inch or so of boiling hot water, yes I know there’s the noise filter cap there but they’re sealed, and anything else would dry off, Also buy yourself some chocolate covered coffee beans there they’re better then cex 😅
I would have fixed 4 plastic blocks inside the housing, then drilled a small pilot hole into each block through the base suitable size for some small self tapping countersunk screws. Countersink the outer holes and then screw in the screws. To ensure no scratching on a worktop, I’d pop four small rubber pads over the screws. This would allow easy removal of the body again. Also, I would slightly enlarge the access hole to allow the ‘first step’ maintenance of a screwdriver in the slot on the main shaft
I have a similar design from Siemens. I used it for coffee back in the day before getting something better for coffee. Mine has never seized.
It is not very good for coffee, since you have no control of grind size and it does not do a uniform output.
I swear this was my amazing purchase i returnd it was cineomon i was grinding it started smoking then stopped so i returned it wow it is a small world
I did not put water on it it did smoke before stopping
I like to use B-7000 glue it's flexible and comes off with a bit of heat.
you could use a set of press fit threaded inserts and some 3d printed pieces you weld into the inside to screw the bottom on next time you go to do maintenance
you always good
My Mate Vince Coffee Shop coming to a town near you soon.
the other to ways you could aftermarket the base would be to add screws, or 3d print a replacement that connects in a different way.
Im guessing you could have possibly tightened the blades all the way down by hand and maybe freed the motor from from the top by doing so without opening the unit, but that wouldnt have made a very interesting video! Good job none the less! 👍🏼
Mine did not have the hole in the bottom. This method worked.
1) remove the blade (counterclockwise)
2) drop 5-6 drops of silicone oil in the shaft opening
3) Use vice grip/pliers, etc and attempt to twist shaft clockwise and counterclockwise
4) test that it runs. If not, repeat step 3 again.
5) use alcohol (rubbing / isopropyl) to clean the oil in the base
6) re-attach blade
Look... ing... good
Thanks Nandi 🙏
Drill out the bottom as someone else said - and use a blanking grommit that can be removed. Then glue together...... easy....
kmart (australia) is always selling coffee grinders - very popular item,
I personally would have 3d printed one or three brackets that glue on the inside and hold machine nuts, then drill holes in the bottom to screw it shut with bolts. shouldn't look too bad when done right, yes its visible but much easier to access than any form of gluing the lid.
You should have just drilled a bigger hole for the screw driver. It's destructive, but there are no exposed mains.
As other have said, if I were to make it safe again, assumed that now it isn't, I would've drilled a bigger hole on the bottom and closed it with epoxy👍
Great video! I think the tighning of the blade is not that relevant because (although it is hard to see on the video) the blade is spinning counter clock wise and it is tightened clockwise, so it can never fly off, but will tighten itself?
You are correct , in theory it should self tighten every time you use it , though if you tighten the blade using the motor too many times it could strip out the threads .
Nice fix. I was thinking you'd be using hot glue before you mentioned it.
How are you today vince
Colombian coffee is a revelation. So much naturally sweeter. Cant beleive kenyan cofee ever took off
Funny thing is I'm watching this video while drinking coffee :).
The best way to grind coffee beans is with a burr grinder. The burr grinder turns more slowly than the blender blade type and does not heat the beans during the grinding process. The burr grinder changes the distance between a fixed and a rotating cutting surface to produce the desired coarse, fine, (or anywhere in between) grind.
One more item to put on your repair shopping list!
The blade is binding. It needed to be cleaned better. The oils from the spices weren't fully removed. You can use a lever to manually move the blade and it'll recover.
what overhead camera do you use?
I like using E6000 to glue plastic things back together as well as cell phone backs and screens. If you don't mind waiting overnight for it to cure.
Perhaps Ran grinder Too Long, heat, (swelling) part, (gasket offset ?) Jamming turning shaft.
Nice job, Great Reward.
If it isn’t the return of the Yellow menace 🤨
Nothing wrong with a good cup of coffee with a biscuit. 👍
I have one of those grinders (it works!) but it doesn't grind the coffee finely enough for espresso. You won't get the best taste from the beans. The very expensive grinders are best for espresso - they use a different grinding system. That's why I always buy ground coffee.
I'd have used a small bead of superglue to seal the bottom back on. Its easy enough to crack it free if needed, just squeeze it with a plastic clamp and it'll pop the glue joint with a little flexing.
If as you said the motor needed to be freed off by rotating it I would have just widened the hole at the bottom hopefully removing the need to disassemble the grinder.
What hot air station are you using?
I need to find your coffee machine now.
Heat-Set Inserts for Plastic, add you own screws. If there isn't a suitable place to put an insert you could probably epoxy them in place. Or epoxy a piece of plastic in place for it.
You really don't need to worry much about heat buildup from the motor, given how briefly you run it at any given time.
I would have tried to find some lines to drill and put screws in from beneath.
Personally I'd have used a soldering iron to make the slot in the bottom bigger. Saves having to use a piddly little screwdriver end and would avoid having to get into it properly. It's a real shame the manufacturers don't make things more accessible for your own repairs
Use black electrical tape for now Vince 😊
Just turn the blade clock wise as in the lock position, that is how it is usually done if seized.
Pro tip:
you can use it to grind many other things aswell: sugar, poppy, caraway etc.
The issue with all these things is cost - they are currently 30 quid on Amazon, and so I'm assuming the idea is to bin it. Firms must be made to make it screw-openable and charge between 40-50 for the effort of changing the design. Firms must be prevented from this disposable cycle of stuff.
I prefer to turn the grinder upside-down before opening, so the powder already is in the lid. makes handling it a bit easier
Yep would have superglued and made bigger hole in bottom. Also get a glue gun, they don't take 5 mins to heat up and much less faff. Keep your beans in the freezer by the way.
On many modern devices the clips are designed to only work one way. It's ncheaper to do it this way.
Great video Vince. Just a heads up that some scammer is posting fake Telegram comment links posing as you. I reported all of the ones that I saw.
to answer your engagement question,
I would use my wallet, to buy a serviceable device. problem is that's getting harder every day.