Emma's Bike Fit | Saddle Position, Handlebar Setup & Pedalling Technique

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  • čas pƙidĂĄn 25. 08. 2024
  • Despite Emma's years of experience at the highest level of professional cycling, she has surprisingly never had a bike fit! Our long term partners Shimano invited us to their high-tech bike fitting facility in Maastricht to see how they conduct one.
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    Like many of us, Emma has always set her bike up using rules of thumb, and what sort of feels right on the bike. But these days bike fits have evolved from this, Shimano's involves a number of different steps and even some motion capture cameras!
    The upshot of this though is that bike fits can ensure that your position on the bike is perfect, and allows you to get the most enjoyment out of your riding.
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Komentáƙe • 653

  • @DudeThisHappened2Me
    @DudeThisHappened2Me Pƙed 6 lety +212

    As a short (157cm), female cyclist you can't even begin to understand how much I appreciate this! Thank you

    • @Desi365
      @Desi365 Pƙed 6 lety +1

      you have to go for teenager-sized hybrids/ MTB. My tip.

    • @DudeThisHappened2Me
      @DudeThisHappened2Me Pƙed 6 lety +31

      Desi I don't enjoy hybrids or MTB so it's not really a tip tbh. Emma is the same height as me and she's a roadie champion. I meant it was helpful in understanding how to make my bike more comfortable as it's not hard to find a women's bike for my size

    • @JS-tb9hu
      @JS-tb9hu Pƙed 6 lety +1

      It’s good that the industry is added smaller sized bikes such as canyon

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Pƙed 6 lety +12

      Cheers Kim, glad you found the video useful!

    • @emmapooley433
      @emmapooley433 Pƙed 6 lety +29

      Kim hi Kim I’m glad this is helpful - I know how frustrating it can be to try to find a bike to fit as a person our size! I do recommend trying 650b or 650c wheel size road bikes.

  • @geoffbaker4452
    @geoffbaker4452 Pƙed 6 lety +378

    Considering this exposes Emma to public scrutiny in terms of her slight physical imperfections ( who is perfect after all?) I think its very brave of her to do this. She couldn't do it without such a good sense of humour.
    For a former pro I find Emma very down to earth and easy to relate to.

    • @stephentuthill4598
      @stephentuthill4598 Pƙed 6 lety +12

      Geoff Baker Emma shows that in taking on athletic endurance event you don't have to be perfect.

    • @richardcarr6493
      @richardcarr6493 Pƙed 5 lety +3

      l wonder how much she improved her performance.

    • @herbertmasing
      @herbertmasing Pƙed 4 lety +4

      Well said! I don't know anything about the pro-athlete world, but 5 mm of difference in leg length is nothing for ordinary people. This is a very very common thing and I guess if the phd doctor found this so surprising, it must be a big deal specifically in the top tier athletes pool..

    • @aaron___6014
      @aaron___6014 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Why is it brave? Pros are human too.

  • @zedatomic8342
    @zedatomic8342 Pƙed 6 lety +6

    We love Emma! An accomplished pro with not a hint of arrogance - a natural and engaging commentary that fits with amateur bike riders and bike nerds alike! A really great addition to the GCN team. Keep the videos coming Emma!

  • @andybrown141
    @andybrown141 Pƙed 6 lety +1

    Yes bike fit totally got rid of back pain and changed how I ride . Went from 172.5 mm cranks to 165 mm , narrower handle bars , and totally different seat . Totally worth every penny I spent .

  • @ToCGambler
    @ToCGambler Pƙed 6 lety +6

    A bikefit was key to get me back into cycling. Started off last year and got injured on my left knee during a sportive. Had issues with my knee for 6 months and couldn't ride further than 10 kms without pain. Orthos even wanted to operate my left knee, but once I got the bikefit done and I was provided with insoles against pronation of my left foot, I was able to return to my usual 250 km/week immediately. So anyone experiencing pain on the bike definitely should go for this, can't stress how thankful I am.

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Pƙed 6 lety +2

      That's pretty remarkable! Glad you got it done.

    • @omnambiar1765
      @omnambiar1765 Pƙed 6 lety

      ToCGambler I’m sorry and I I understand the pain you went through as I have been through similar things, but you sound like a dodgy American infomercial

    • @ToCGambler
      @ToCGambler Pƙed 6 lety

      Lol yeah. Usually I'm not the person to advertise for something.. But in this case I hesitated way too long because of the high price that is associated with it, so that's directed towards those that are hesitating as well and are facing the same issues as I did. I'm so positive about this because this was pretty much like a magic trick, for my condition that is at least, and I wanted to share that. Next time I'll ask the company that did it for money in exchange lol

  • @petinka721
    @petinka721 Pƙed 6 lety +200

    I understand why Emma did this. The most important competition is near and it is not about money. It is about pride and I will keep my thumbs for you Emma! I want you do a thing for me Emma. win! Emma win!

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Pƙed 6 lety +2

      Haha, cheers Petinka!

    • @bobmarengo8322
      @bobmarengo8322 Pƙed 6 lety +10

      All the people on this video’s comments area that are virtually screaming at Emma to eschew this bad quasi-medical advice are correct. Emma is getting very bad advice from this center/guy. Bad podiatric, bad osteopathic, and bad medical advice in general. I hope she gets her back/hips issue addressed, as it is extremely obvious when she walks or rides that she needs proper rehab and appliances to allow her to then adjust the bike to optimize her position. It is all too common for some of these types of centers to try to treat injuries and related disfunction by skewing the bike to force her body into compensatory misalignment/realignment. He is not even addressing, or noticing, her real problem- and is instead, incorrectly asserting that her 4mm leg length differential is unusually large- and is the cause of her issues. 4mm, which he claims is big (although impossible to measure accurately the way he does it)is actually very small (lower 10%), as most women average around 0.4” (about 10.5mm).
      The AAOS, and many sports med research centers and peer-reviewed research is in dramatic conflict with both his measurement approach, and his recommendation based on a supposed 4mm result. He is wrong by almost a factor of 10- even if he could accurately measure the way he is doing it (you can’t, as any good osteopath or chiropractor who is not trying to scare-up business will tell you). He is incorrectly compensating for her injury-related auto-compensation, which is indicative of a problem that needs to be addressed prior to any fine tuning bike adjustments. Gross bike adjustments used to compensate unilaterally for physical injury induced or related disfunction is bad medicine. That is what sportothotics and other appliances and therapy are for, and are often combined with specifically designed rehab programs for optimal post-injury recovery. Otherwise, he is setting her up for a dramatically shortened biking career filled with unnecessary pain and significantly increased likelihood of surgeries that could have been avoided. He will just be adding stress to her hips and knee - and very likely other elements along her kinesthetic chain.
      Very bad advice, but not atypical from a center specializing in selling a single solution set, rather than practicing sports medicine plus offering a broader range of sub-specialties.

    • @sodalitia
      @sodalitia Pƙed 6 lety

      Interesting point you make. If her leg length difference was indeed significant, wouldn't she need some kind of orthopedic inserts or differential shoe hight for riding a bike? If his measurement of the leg length was correct, by increasing the seat hight he is simply forcing her to put more strain on the hip of the shorter leg and cause more rocking of the hips side to side. She was already quite capable of adopting areo position with the previous saddle hight, why increase it? Also at 9:45 he talks about high value of the "knee extension" and when she says its "to flexed" he agrees. WTF? If he meant "knee forward of foot" value - that would make sense. But when you say "knee extension" its the one in red and when her foot is down. To me her leg is even too much extended, so increasing the seat post hight makes this value even worse. Why didn't he bring her back on the sensor machine after adjustment has been made to see improvements? Why he is not talking about stem length and tilt, frame geometry? Like those are unimportant? What about her clinical history? Did he even bother to look the X-rays of her sacrum fracture pre- and post surgery? It all looks quite sketchy to me.

    • @sodalitia
      @sodalitia Pƙed 6 lety

      So called "broader point" is just a nutjob's excuse to molest people with their paranoid convictions, while contributing zero to the actual discussion. Get off the videos about cycling and internet altoghether and get a job with ANTIFA. Surely you won't profit from it so it would be plain right for you commie.

    • @johnratcliffe6438
      @johnratcliffe6438 Pƙed 6 lety

      Emma needs to see Dr Rahim, a Gonsted practioner. He'll sort her out.

  • @unitedgray
    @unitedgray Pƙed 6 lety +16

    One of the best GCN videos I've seen yet. I've never had a professional bike fit, but this is really enticing me to do so. I would have liked to see more of the exact "corrections: that were made to Emma's bike after the fit. Maybe her thoughts after a decent ride post-adjustment as well.

    • @JS-tb9hu
      @JS-tb9hu Pƙed 6 lety +1

      Same

    • @edbrown7422
      @edbrown7422 Pƙed 6 lety +2

      My bike fit was the best money I've ever spent on my bike. Noticed a positive difference immediately. I'd definitely recommend.

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Pƙed 6 lety +2

      Cheers unitedgray, you can check out the more geeky edition here - gcntech.co/bikefitgeek

  • @conanshing778
    @conanshing778 Pƙed 6 lety +61

    That moment when Emma is putting out your FTP during a bike fit 😭😭

  • @kiwim3p587
    @kiwim3p587 Pƙed 6 lety +100

    There is something about Emma, a high class person

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Pƙed 6 lety +3

      Cheers Darren!

  • @brillowolf
    @brillowolf Pƙed 6 lety +106

    This video needs a post fit review to get Emma’s opinion on the outcome of the fit.

  • @davidholland2109
    @davidholland2109 Pƙed 6 lety +15

    I've just got a bike fit myself and cycled the island of Arran yesterday and honestly I felt amazing after it. I could of kept going couldn't believe it

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Pƙed 6 lety +2

      It's amazing what a difference it can make eh?

    • @zakswan4644
      @zakswan4644 Pƙed 6 lety +2

      I cycled round Arran before it has views that are amazing

    • @Hunter_Bidens_Crackpipe_
      @Hunter_Bidens_Crackpipe_ Pƙed 6 lety +2

      Same happened to me, no bike fit, I was on an ebike.

    • @imstillhere6678
      @imstillhere6678 Pƙed 6 lety +2

      David Holland Have, not of. Basics...

    • @TheWaxChainFanClub
      @TheWaxChainFanClub Pƙed 6 lety

      Did you visit the Arran Distillery? Lovely.

  • @mikemowett7401
    @mikemowett7401 Pƙed 7 měsĂ­ci

    The sensors that showed how much force is where on the pedals, was amazing technology.. The whole process starting at the beginning with checking the riders anatomy etc. was thorough. I had no idea so much was involved for a bike fit. Thank you for a great video.

  • @senna1rossi
    @senna1rossi Pƙed 6 lety +26

    Such a great video. Informative and scientific. Thanks GCN, and Emma! Just brilliant...

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Pƙed 6 lety

      Cheers Senna, glad you enjoyed it. Check out the Geek Edition for a closer look on GCN Tech too!

  • @leqin
    @leqin Pƙed 6 lety +7

    Its nice to hear that Emma's set her sights high this year - really looking forward to the Presenters Challange now.
    Also - thats got to be one of the most amazingly interesting video's GCN's ever made and the geek edition is....

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Pƙed 6 lety +1

      Glad you liked it Nigel, cheers for the support 👊

    • @leqin
      @leqin Pƙed 6 lety +1

      Any chance that Emma can come back to this fit and its results later on after she's acclimatised to the changes it makes, only we get to see other fits but never hear from the person how they feel its effected their cycling long term.

  • @roof30
    @roof30 Pƙed 6 lety +8

    That was fascinating. As a shorter rider myself I understand the desire to want to shorten your seatpost length to try and maximise power output - and I suffer from ITB issues as a result. This has made me realise that I also need a bikefit, so thanks for the info GCN; very helpful, as always.

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Pƙed 6 lety +1

      Let us know how you get on with it, will you? Cheers for the support.

    • @Megadeth6633
      @Megadeth6633 Pƙed 6 lety +1

      Shorter seatpost length gives you less power output. Your muscles aren't stretching enough distance thus limiting the potential.

  • @dominicsarmen
    @dominicsarmen Pƙed 6 lety +9

    Was waiting for something like this, as a small rider myself this helps thanks đŸ‘ŒđŸŒ

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Pƙed 6 lety

      Dominic Sarmen glad to hear it!

  • @jeshely
    @jeshely Pƙed 5 lety +23

    We need more of Emma on GCN! Haven’t see her in a while.

    • @michawodarkiewicz371
      @michawodarkiewicz371 Pƙed 4 lety +1

      She has left GCN, sad news indeed.

    • @jeshely
      @jeshely Pƙed 4 lety

      MichaƂ WƂodarkiewicz Sad to hear that! Thanks for the update.

  • @darienadley5544
    @darienadley5544 Pƙed 6 lety +2

    That motion capture fitting set-up is remarkable. I liked how the fit started with the physiological assessment, before going anywhere near the fitting jig.

  • @LegSpinna
    @LegSpinna Pƙed 6 lety +100

    Do UCI rules allow one leg to be longer than the other?

    • @fluidefluide1128
      @fluidefluide1128 Pƙed 5 lety +11

      Only if the longer leg length is offset by the number, gender (left or right ) and severity of a road curve .If there is a serious disparity then a lead wieght must be incorporated into the cleat to offset the obvious advantage. It's a bit like having a hamster run round a wheel, if you don't make sure it does runs with the axle on the left or right equaling out eventually it starts to walk in a circle. Hope that clears that up.

    • @ChrisAcheson
      @ChrisAcheson Pƙed 4 lety +1

      Don't quit your day job to be a comedian, donut.

    • @geoffreyanderson4719
      @geoffreyanderson4719 Pƙed 4 lety

      >Do UCI rules allow one leg to be longer than the other?
      Did Eddy Merckx have one leg longer? No? .... no.

    • @jbratt
      @jbratt Pƙed 4 lety +5

      Only when compensated by sock length 😀

    • @adinur1653
      @adinur1653 Pƙed 4 lety +3

      No, they don't. But they do allow one leg to be shorter than the other.

  • @ronbyers9912
    @ronbyers9912 Pƙed 5 lety +2

    I recently had a professional bike fit. I can't begin to describe the advantages that accompany a good bike fit. Afterward my power and speed were dramatically enhanced. Surprisingly for me after the lift my bike become far more stable. Don't hesitate to have a professional bike fit.

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Pƙed 5 lety +2

      Really glad to hear it Ron!

  • @markmiller4414
    @markmiller4414 Pƙed 6 lety +37

    Great video! Really wanna know what Emma thinks of this new position after she's been riding it for a while. Hope to hear something in the future.

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Pƙed 6 lety +2

      Cheers Mark!

  • @eterlizzi
    @eterlizzi Pƙed 6 lety +2

    Love the personality of Emma when he mentions the cables are for people up to 2 meters! Priceless

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Pƙed 6 lety +1

      😂

  • @liammcgough9969
    @liammcgough9969 Pƙed rokem

    I thought that I was going to learn about just bike fitting from this video.But, I really learned about how to be humble from Emma as well. She really did a great job.

  • @ianwalker8557
    @ianwalker8557 Pƙed 6 lety +11

    Wow learnt so much in a short video

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Pƙed 6 lety

      Cheers Ian, so did we!

  • @kakarot2430
    @kakarot2430 Pƙed 6 lety +10

    Neil : Any particular objectives that you have for this bike fit?
    Emma : I really, really want to win GCN presenter challenge.
    Neil : I can imagine that...who doesn't...
    lmao

  • @AndrewEbling
    @AndrewEbling Pƙed 6 lety +2

    Well done Emma - your delivery keeps getting better. Also glad to see GCN have finally recognised the value of a good bike fit.

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Pƙed 6 lety

      Cheers Andrew, have you had a bike fit?

    • @AndrewEbling
      @AndrewEbling Pƙed 6 lety

      Global Cycling Network I have indeed had a bike fit - at WyndyMilla - although that was more of an old-school session with an experienced fitter who went by eye/experience than computer based. The results were astonishing - I cycled home feeling like I was flying a few feet above the road surface. The fit was so good, the bike kind of almost disappeared - it became part of me. Hence I’m a huge fan of a good bike fit and side with the many people who describe it as “the best money I’ve spent on anything cycling related”.

  • @terbennett
    @terbennett Pƙed 6 lety

    Excellent video! You really shined with this one Emma. If anyone had their doubts, this video should've erased them. Great job!

  • @ojtibi9906
    @ojtibi9906 Pƙed 6 lety +100

    Win the GCN Presenters' Challenge! Yeah! đŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€Ł

    • @triestelondon
      @triestelondon Pƙed 6 lety +1

      There may be the TdF but the GPC must surely take precedence.

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Pƙed 6 lety +3

      Stay tuned!

  • @kissCharles
    @kissCharles Pƙed 4 lety +1

    something that's very underrated for shorter riders.. the usage of shorter crank

  • @Juan0003
    @Juan0003 Pƙed 5 lety +3

    9:26 "I can see already. I'm rocking!" Yes Emma, you rock!!

  • @AdamJStoryDC
    @AdamJStoryDC Pƙed 6 lety +8

    Did he shim the shoe or were the other changes enough to make her comfortable?

  • @richardcarr6493
    @richardcarr6493 Pƙed 5 lety +1

    very informative video lots of different aspects mentioned here

  • @bobbysilver272
    @bobbysilver272 Pƙed 6 lety +13

    Most leg length "differences" are cause by a problem in the pelvis angle, not leg length. (Less than 5% have actual leg length differences). The fact she also mentioned breaking her sacrum quite recently could also be the cause of this. Handle the pelvic muscular imbalance and this should get resolved.

  • @patrickhance7348
    @patrickhance7348 Pƙed 6 lety +29

    This was very informative I think I going to get a bikefit thanks 👍 . Pat from Belgium đŸšČ👊

  • @andreibarbu3228
    @andreibarbu3228 Pƙed 6 lety +25

    Can't wait for the GCN presenter race

  • @tarmacsurfers
    @tarmacsurfers Pƙed 6 lety +6

    jeeezzzz that is one hell of bike fit setup, surperb. Great video Emma!

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Pƙed 6 lety +1

      Cheers tarmacsurfers! Thanks for watching!

  • @IdolOracle
    @IdolOracle Pƙed 6 lety +21

    4:33 suggests you might need a "sock fit" - does that say "Right" on your left sock?

    • @emmapooley433
      @emmapooley433 Pƙed 6 lety +14

      Haha, I must have put my socks on in a bit of a hurry!

  • @sumorich1978
    @sumorich1978 Pƙed 4 lety +1

    I rode 50-75 miles per week for around 8 years. Haven't been on the bike in over 4 years. Decided recently to dust off the bike this coming Spring and found GCN videos to entertain and refresh me through the winter. I have no idea why I loved this video as much as I did. This could've been a 2 hour video and I would not have minded.

  • @paultheroadcyclist8714
    @paultheroadcyclist8714 Pƙed 6 lety

    Great video, Thanks Shimano Tech Centre and obviously Emma for providing us with the insight

  • @alanwilliams9021
    @alanwilliams9021 Pƙed 6 lety +2

    Excellent and very informative, thank you GCN

  • @Addamo
    @Addamo Pƙed 6 lety

    Loving Emma. What a wonderful addition to the team and the show.

  • @bikndave68
    @bikndave68 Pƙed 6 lety +1

    What a great video and thank you Emma for putting yourself out there.
    It would be great if within two to four weeks you would revisit this subject and let everyone know if your new position improved your cycling experience.
    Thanks again!

  • @NielsHeldens
    @NielsHeldens Pƙed 6 lety +24

    WAIT EMMA WAS IN MY AREA AND YOU DIDN’T TELL ME! This will not be forgiven!
    Also, the bike fitter has an awesome first name. With a name like that you know you have a talented and just all round great guy helping you.

  • @Skjoldborg8
    @Skjoldborg8 Pƙed 5 lety +1

    So great to get some insight into how much there is to bike fitting! Very very useful, and great fun as well! :-D Thumbs up!

  • @awildtomappeared5925
    @awildtomappeared5925 Pƙed 6 lety +11

    I'd love to see a series showing the bike vaults/sheds/attics/graveyards of GCN hosts

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Pƙed 6 lety +3

      That's a corking idea, thanks!

    • @ZeroSeriesMMX
      @ZeroSeriesMMX Pƙed 6 lety

      aWildTomAppeared Ahhhh... We need to raid Jon's attic, especially!

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Pƙed 6 lety +1

      There's a lot of call for that, somehow...

    • @TheBassallyear100
      @TheBassallyear100 Pƙed 6 lety

      I'd like it even more if it was possible for the presenters to speak about what bike was their personal favorite ride and why. I expect that sponsors might not prefer that though. I'd also love to see an aero/efficiency/comfort challenge among manufacturers that have aero, all-round and endurance bikes in their arsenal. For example, we've seen Matt's Aeroad pitted against cheap and midrange bikes but it would be great to see Si's Aeroad vs Dan's Ultimate or a Venge ViAS vs an SL6 etc.

  • @mcone1959
    @mcone1959 Pƙed 5 lety

    Thank you for an excellent and helpful video. I have been riding for a couple of years and am still struggling for the correct fit. Now I've finally scheduled a bike fitting with a certified fitter and am looking forward to the advice she will give. This video gets a big thumbs up from me!

  • @squeakygiant
    @squeakygiant Pƙed 6 lety +37

    The leg length discrepancy test is suspect. Typically x-ray and bone measurements are used to determine this. Functional leg length discrepancy could be caused by your rotated hip. I would avoid shimming the shoes to different heights until confirmed. If it is true you are in good company, Eddy Merckx has one too.

    • @alainbellemare2168
      @alainbellemare2168 Pƙed 4 lety +1

      totally agree

    • @rkitson9436
      @rkitson9436 Pƙed 4 lety

      My bike fit identified a similar problem and had shims and wedges fitted but they created a tendonitis that meant I couldn't walk for two weeks! Make any adjustments gradually!

    • @squeakygiant
      @squeakygiant Pƙed 4 lety +1

      @@rkitson9436 You couldn't walk as you the shimming changed the way tension is balanced in your body. Our bodies are best viewed as tensity objects (similar to a wheel, structural strength comes form tension in this case soft tissue over bones, as opposed to tension in spokes). Shimming changes that distribution of tension, which lead to overuse and tendinitis. I am personally view shimming as a last resort rather than a first step. Often you can develop tight connective tissue through habits (e.g, sitting) that can present as functional issues. In this case slowly releasing the tight connective tissue resets the balance of tension in the body and may resolve these fit issues. Soft-tissue change have to be done very slowly (weeks) so the body can properly adapt. Connective tissues takes much longer to adapt relative muscular adaptation. This is why suddenly jumping into new exercise program can bring tendonitis, as the connective tissue hasn't had time to sufficiently adapt to support the forces in the new exercise.

  • @g.fortin3228
    @g.fortin3228 Pƙed 6 lety

    Thats pretty amazing stuff.. I recently just adjusted my saddle height a smidge and was surprised at how just about 3-4 mm made a huge difference in fatigue level ! Love your videos , and the knowledge you share. A+ !

    • @acyutanandadas1326
      @acyutanandadas1326 Pƙed 6 lety +2

      Same w me. I gotta learn the metric system eg 3-4 mm equals 1 smidge.

  • @mileysound1212
    @mileysound1212 Pƙed 6 lety

    Good luck with your goal of winning the GCN presenter challenge. You have the fitness and determination to win. To be absolutely sure of winning, practise telling your left from right, it will help you if there is a navigational element and you will be able to put your GCN socks on the correct way round. Win win!

  • @phillwhitlam6999
    @phillwhitlam6999 Pƙed 6 lety

    Another great video from Emma. Really interesting and explained some of the mysteries of bike fitting. Emma gets more and more relaxed with every video. Keep em coming guys.

  • @g.fortin3228
    @g.fortin3228 Pƙed 4 lety

    Emma did an awesome job here and did herself well to get the bike fit and adjustments made ! I miss Emma on the channel !! A very down to earth and very likable presenter !!

  • @soundrkappa7763
    @soundrkappa7763 Pƙed 6 lety +2

    Emma also starting saying yep all the time at the end haha

  • @Vaioman67
    @Vaioman67 Pƙed 6 lety +1

    Way to go EMMA! So glad your with the GCN Team!

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Pƙed 6 lety

      Cheers Stephen!

  • @joelioel
    @joelioel Pƙed 6 lety

    After seeing replays of Emma's performance in ITU Powerman, she's my hero, an absolute beast in the sport of long course duathlon!

  • @AteRed
    @AteRed Pƙed 3 lety

    This is a really helpful video. I also have a trek emonda and i am 147 cm tall so I wonder what the size of Emma's bike frame is. After watching this video i surely need to make a few adjustments with my saddle height and cleats shoes :)

  • @chrizk.9343
    @chrizk.9343 Pƙed rokem

    Get into a bind and this thing is a life saver

  • @mariconor242
    @mariconor242 Pƙed 5 lety +2

    This is excellent, really informative stuff.

  • @benjaminzachwieja8133
    @benjaminzachwieja8133 Pƙed 6 lety

    I am looking to get a fit this summer. Thanks for the presentation. This was an interesting piece.

  • @nickrobinson2023
    @nickrobinson2023 Pƙed rokem

    This guy knows the anatomy of the cyclist. Amazing skills. Thanks for sharing.

  • @lr3867
    @lr3867 Pƙed 5 lety +3

    Emma you are a fighter ! :) please do a follow up on progress after your fit

  • @JN-ow4yc
    @JN-ow4yc Pƙed 3 lety

    As a physio student. Great video to learn!

  • @sureshchinnappa2290
    @sureshchinnappa2290 Pƙed 6 lety +1

    Great information. I am going to get a bike fit too😀. Thanks again for showing the benefits Emma.

  • @changegeek4553
    @changegeek4553 Pƙed 4 lety

    Wonderful video for us engineers! Thanks, Emma!

  • @VisionElectricAus
    @VisionElectricAus Pƙed 4 lety +1

    In a world where everyone on the internet loves telling you how good they are ............ I found this refreshing

  • @pobg
    @pobg Pƙed 6 lety +1

    I thought ooooh this video will be interesting! And it was waaaaay more Interesting than I expected. Thanks guys.

  • @alfonsolizarazo9806
    @alfonsolizarazo9806 Pƙed 4 lety

    Every time I get a new bike I comeback to GCNs bike fit videos

  • @josephkozachek848
    @josephkozachek848 Pƙed 6 lety +2

    So... a couple of months out now how did this work out? did you have to change anything back? changes?

  • @villamjoe87
    @villamjoe87 Pƙed 5 lety

    GCN needs more of Emma! MUCH more! :) When I see Emma , I click. That simple.

  • @FrankJackson
    @FrankJackson Pƙed 2 lety

    This is awesome. I’m going to find a bike fitting place near me and see how it works.

  • @stevecarleton163
    @stevecarleton163 Pƙed 6 lety

    Great Video Emma. coincidentally i just did my bike fit on Saturday (Specialized Retul) and it was very similar to this. I had to get a new wider seat, change the position of my seat and i have new insoles to compensate for the high arches. I was also told my left leg is 4mm longer than my right, which can also be compensated for using cleats. It would be great if you could do a follow up video in 6 weeks time, so you can say how you feel about the new position.

  • @waveandsoundchannel
    @waveandsoundchannel Pƙed 6 lety

    Emma, you are an example of person everyone should follow.

  • @allthingsTechrelated
    @allthingsTechrelated Pƙed 5 lety

    The best bike fitter I’ve seen so far

  • @williamknowles3085
    @williamknowles3085 Pƙed 4 lety

    Finally GCN! A proper video on bike fitting! lol

  • @z1522
    @z1522 Pƙed 6 lety

    Note for small riders: Campy brake hoods make for much shorter reach than Shimano, a cm at least. The concept of adapting to a new position: I felt so strongly that my MTB cleats were too far back that I moved them forward more than a cm the night before a ten-hour marathon off-road ride, then drove six hours home. Age fifty. No aftereffects, and the cleats have stayed in that setup for 15 years since. So much for the concept.

  • @bryant2919
    @bryant2919 Pƙed 4 lety

    Fantastic interview, thank you so much for a professional, pleasant and to the point video. Bravo!

  • @53glowe
    @53glowe Pƙed 6 lety +1

    Quite fascinating...a very interesting episode. Well done Emma👍

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Pƙed 6 lety

      Cheers Gaz!

  • @hankg6955
    @hankg6955 Pƙed 6 lety

    Emma you put out the most informative videos, cheers!

  • @LomTong
    @LomTong Pƙed 6 lety +1

    Oh my God, the colour scheme on that Emonda... Bellissimo!

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Pƙed 6 lety +1

      👍

  • @carlblaskowitz7817
    @carlblaskowitz7817 Pƙed 6 lety +1

    This is what I wanted! Thanks GCN

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Pƙed 6 lety

      You're welcome Carl! What did you find the most interesting?

    • @carlblaskowitz7817
      @carlblaskowitz7817 Pƙed 6 lety

      I have been considering a bike fit for myself and was wondering what the process entailed, what parameters might be measured and how precise it is. I'm sure this is a bit more advanced of a fitter than I will find locally but I suspect the fundamentals are the same. I had thought that the process might be a bit of an unnecessary upsell, but the video shows me that it will be of some significant value to increase comfort and to avoid injury. There are other bike fit videos available, but even in a quasi-promotional segment, GCN has earned my trust over some random youtube star promotion.

    • @carlblaskowitz7817
      @carlblaskowitz7817 Pƙed 6 lety

      To be clear, I am not a pro or anything more than a health motivated cyclist, but GCNs (and others) content have made me take my cycling fare more seriously than before, adding value to my time on the bike.

  • @barrymorgan4826
    @barrymorgan4826 Pƙed 4 lety

    I can relate to everything in this video as i am 4 foot 8 (I'm 12) but this video is extremely helpful

  • @MVProfits
    @MVProfits Pƙed 6 lety +1

    Some, not all, but some of the elements mentioned like muscle tightness, flexibility, etc. can change over time. I get that our bone structure, length, height will not but some other aspects mentioned. Anyway, good to have a bike fit to avoid injuries and simply flow better. But very few places offer that level of adjustments!

  • @sarastearns8025
    @sarastearns8025 Pƙed 6 lety

    GREAT video! Very, very revealing, thank you, Emma!

  • @66smashy
    @66smashy Pƙed 6 lety +1

    This was very interesting. Its always something i'm wondering about. Gonna start by checking the forward/aft of my cleats and the guys recommendation of pedal axle alignment.

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Pƙed 6 lety

      Thanks Simon, let us know how you get on!

  • @PK-wd1wt
    @PK-wd1wt Pƙed 5 lety

    This was fascinating! Thanks, Emma, for sharing this!

  • @PrinceCbass
    @PrinceCbass Pƙed 4 lety

    leg length can be caused by spinal misalignment and subluxations. Usually leg length is not in the leg but is imbalances of muscle tension in the neck and spine. Chiropractic adjustments can make huge differences and relieve chronic pain

  • @jaycollins6792
    @jaycollins6792 Pƙed 6 lety +3

    Great video very informative

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Pƙed 6 lety +1

      Cheers Jay!

  • @LCDGeek
    @LCDGeek Pƙed 6 lety

    Will be looking for a follow up video on how she adjusts to the new position.....Had a bike fit 10 years ago (and 2+ follow ups since then), and every time I go more comfortable, efficient and faster. Highly recommend spending the money.

  • @KD5XB
    @KD5XB Pƙed 5 lety

    Thanks for this video, it is quite informative and useful.

  • @dickiedollop
    @dickiedollop Pƙed 3 lety

    Thank you Emma you’ve done me service with your video đŸ‘đŸ»

  • @hondasaurusrex6998
    @hondasaurusrex6998 Pƙed 6 lety

    Fantastic video, very informative!

  • @dannyhanny1191
    @dannyhanny1191 Pƙed 6 lety

    Excellent video, Em.

  • @TheRebuilt1
    @TheRebuilt1 Pƙed 2 lety

    very nice and interesting use of technology. Like most old heads we went off leg length and plumb line on roller/trainer to dial in. Worked fine for me racing as long as Ema but this type of technology would have been awesome and great to have for the cycling community.

  • @jaynebachoo1781
    @jaynebachoo1781 Pƙed 5 lety +2

    Am curious about people with flat feet how does it affect them?

  • @spaminbox
    @spaminbox Pƙed 6 lety +1

    wow that's super detailed analysis. one question though. how is ideal position determined? is it greatest efficiency, greatest comfort, greatest ability to avoid injury? and does this mean your bike position will change if you have different goals?

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Pƙed 6 lety

      Hey fidelio! We discuss this a bit more in the GCN tech version, which you can check out here gcntech.co/bikefitgeek

  • @RixterNow
    @RixterNow Pƙed 6 lety

    That was very interesting how detailed a good bike fit can be

    • @stuartdryer4089
      @stuartdryer4089 Pƙed 6 lety

      And yet the one I had at Bicycle Speed Shop in Houston was even more detailed. Lots of analysis on my bike in a trainer using Retul system after changes were made. It includes seat pressures for example. Two weeks later a free follow-up to make some little tweaks after 20 hours trying out the new position. The effect on my riding has been very positive.

  • @lindapetzing4887
    @lindapetzing4887 Pƙed 6 lety +1

    As a short rider myself, I found this a really interesting video. I'd like to know what size cranks Emma had on her fabulous Edmonda and were the wheels 650c or bs?

  • @jfvanschalkwyk
    @jfvanschalkwyk Pƙed 6 lety

    Amazing! I need to get a proper bike fit done... have pain and numbness in my hands and wrists

  • @amdenis
    @amdenis Pƙed 6 lety +76

    There are so many incorrect statements and bad advice in this video that it is difficult to know where to start.
    In any event, the average leg length disparity for men is actually about 0.6”, and for women it is about 0.4”, based on numerous studies, AAOS, US military and other sources. That is about 15mm and 10mm respectively- or 300-400% what Emma’s R/L leg length disparity measures according to him. It is generally considered, and confirmed by numerous sports med studies that anything above 4% or roughly 5cm (That is cm, not mm) may cause gate anomalies, etc. So, 4mm (what he said her disparity is) is very much at the low end of typical anomalies.
    Next, you cannot accurately determine leg length by that method he used. There are numerous lower back and hip alignment issues. For example, typically left/right gluteal size disparities alone will typically shift apparent leg length by several percent (no actual length), as well as soft, connective and related tissue factors- all of which have to be considered when determining limb length to get an accurate measurement. The accuracy of his measurements are further complicated by the poor method he used, based on a contraction, flexion and pull, sometimes employed by chiropractors trying to cause or exaggerate apparent disparities.
    Emma has a very obvious gate issue, which requires orthotics to address. That should be done first (before adjusting her bike) in any event, and will not only help her when walking, but will also allow accurate determination of her optimal bike adjustments and physical positioning. Also, it will help to address her right leg down-stroke compensation issues that are quite visible, and got worse when her bike was adjusted.
    Also, her seat is tilted currently to compensate for the fact that it needs to be front-back adjusted (actual measurements need to be taken POST orthotics). You are currently compensating for that via set and pedal offsets, which is why the adjustments he made feel weirder than they would otherwise. Your compensation will continue until you address your underlying biomechanical issues.
    Finally, do you do any quad extension or related exercises? If so, you need to do more, if not- add quad extensions to your exercise routine, as you have a very obvious, significant posterior strength bias (hamstrings vs quadriceps). Doing just a few sets per week will make a huge difference in your riding, and will help to eliminate your drag on your upstroke. It will also, and most importantly, dramatically reduce the likelihood of knee degeneration, which your stroke shows you are currently beginning to create. Take care of your biomechanical issues first, and then address your fit and positioning. You will enjoy your biking and any other sports more, improve your performance and dramatically reduce long term biomechanical related stress-related injury potential.

    • @bobmarengo8322
      @bobmarengo8322 Pƙed 6 lety +13

      Andrew Denis - you are so correct mr Denis. It may be that this guy was not trained properly. I have been to several top Cat 1/ professional sports med training centers from Switzerland and Germany to the US and UK. They had tons of granite down to isolate and measure stride, bio-alignment and related problems and advanced USW lasers. This is maybe high tech compared to Dr. Scholl’s self-serve, but his methods, advice and approach are bad, and not based on and leading edge approaches I have ever seen. The last one i went to in Zermatt used advanced AI driven virtual reality. I was able to take over 10% off my times and greatly reduced my recovery times. She has very obvious alignment issues- you can see it. He is ignoring them and trying to compensate by skewing her extension. Look at how his adjustments made her over pronation much worse. Emma- he is going to screw you up badly. You need to go to a top center and get the necessary appliances made to address your physical body problems.

    • @whyyesca
      @whyyesca Pƙed 6 lety +15

      EMMA - DO NOT FOLLOW THIS BIKE FITTERS ADVICE! Dennis and others are completely correct. You need to see a real sports med orthopod and correct your mech issues. I do not see any orthotics or other appliances that you badly need. It will improve your performance ad keep you from crippling yourself before you turn 50. This type of place can really mess you up if you don’t fix your issues first. It’s like treating the sy,ptoms rather than the disease. It is so obvious in how you move that you are trying to compensate for some bad injuries you have had.

    • @amdenis
      @amdenis Pƙed 6 lety +8

      whyyesca - thanks to Whyatt and all of you who recognize what i’m trying to tell Emma is critically important for her body to avoid becoming crippled. This type of advice, with measurements and recommendations that are over an order of magnitude off, can do major damage to someone who rides as much and as hard as Emma does.
      I just hope Emma sees our plea to her to avoid following this bad advice. There are plenty of top centers that can help her- and expect that some may even waive their fees to help her and increase. Awareness of the importance of properly dealing wit the underlying medical/physiological issues first.
      I HOPE YOU SEE AND FOLLOW THE ADVICE OF THOSE TRYING TO HELP YOU EMMA. RESEARCH/FIND AND GO TO A REAL SPORTS MED GROUP THAT WILL ADDRESS YOU PHYSIO ISSUES FIRST, INSTEAD OF JUST TRYING TO ADAPT THE BIKE TO YOUR PHYSICAL INJURIES AND RESULTING PROBLEMS. A side benefit is you will enjoy biking a lot more and go faster, easier and with enhanced recovery time (and you won’t be racked with arthritic and related pain by your 50’s - Bonus! )

    • @vivianoldfield9914
      @vivianoldfield9914 Pƙed 6 lety +5

      *Gait

    • @johndgn
      @johndgn Pƙed 6 lety +2

      Following a bike fit that in hindsight set me too high I was plagued with saddle sores in one area cos I was jammed in one position with all pressure on one side prob due to leg length difference, better to err slightly low (2-3mm say) to allow micro movements and take pressure off one particular area. Never see that mentioned in a ‘bike fit’.

  • @freightshayker
    @freightshayker Pƙed 5 lety +2

    Would an assembly with a slightly longer crank-length for Emma's left leg be a good idea ?

  • @haydenbedwell9020
    @haydenbedwell9020 Pƙed 6 lety

    Just a heads up Emma, it may not be a leg length discrepancy, it could be an up slip in the right side, hence why the left leg is appearing “longer”, simple pelvis adjustment could fix this, a good Physio will be able to assess and adjust ;)
    Great video again guys, keep up the good work đŸ‘đŸ»

    • @emmapooley433
      @emmapooley433 Pƙed 6 lety

      Thanks Hayden - actually I think my pelvis adjusts for my leg length discrepancy. Previous times I've had a physical assessment the conclustion has been that the length discrepancy is 2-2.5cm which is quite significant. Obviously there are more accurate ways to measure this than shown in this video, but for the bike fit the important thing was the functional discrepancy.
      For running I get way more problems from my wonky pelvis and mismatched legs.... !

    • @haydenbedwell9020
      @haydenbedwell9020 Pƙed 6 lety

      I had a feeling that you had probably already had this assessed previously :) And yes, 2-1.5 cm is a pretty impressive discrepancy. Great work once again, your knowledge and experience has taken the channel to another level.
      If you guys ever need any treatments, im down the road so give me a shout!
      All the best!