Aesthetics are very subjective and I personally far prefer the green anodised Samick riser over the nail polish red win and win you compared it to. I think most brands are moving away from high gloss to more satin and Matt finishes. High gloss, to me, looks very 90s/2000s. Nice matt and satin finishes look much classier to my eye, so although you have strong opinions, you may find that your customers see things differently. Where I do agree is the pinkish reds. I don’t like them, but then again I would not want wine red. Just a nice rich crimson. That said, I tend to stay away from very bold colours, because if you change limbs, the ones you feel shoot best may well not look good. There’s a good argument for somewhat sober colours for risers..... but we’re all different! Some of the best colour choices IMHO are on the new Spigarelli Zen. Stunning blue, green and gold especially
Steven... your an amazing person. You know sooooo much. All good products and tips. I wish you were in the USA... I would buy everything I need from you. The Archery industry, is so lucky to have you... and making videos to enlighten us all. 1 USA, Texas... traditional archer... Thanks You for all you do !!!
i like your review and your passion for archery. Even though you didn't make it to the olympic but now you own an archery shop supplying the needs for young archers who might be in the olympics. Making a living while doing something you like is definitely a dream come true mate. Will be shopping online from your shop, I like those samick risers!
Based on your review, I just bought a Samick Ideal riser in candy apple red. As you said the paintwork is brilliant, and the grip fits me perfectly. With my 36lb Cartel limbs, it shoots brilliantly, without any hand shock. It’s really beautifully made and rivals Risers costing much more. Thanks for the great info you produce on your channel.
I’m state side US and I really enjoy your reviews. My goal is after shooting a recurve for about a year I want to also start shooting a compound bow. My wife is like no more bows no I’m just like ok sure.
I have a Samick Max Pro anodised in PURPLE. It's gorgeous! Agree with you about the CNC tool marks - disappointing is the right word. But it's lovely to shoot. Personally, I'm constantly admiring the shape of the Max Pro - great lines in my view!
Quick question! First I’m loving your videos. As COMPLETELY new to the world of recurve I’m really enjoying the info you’re sharing. My question is, it looks like my daughter would need a 54” bow for her size, do you buy a “normal” sized riser and 54” limbs or are there smaller youth bows? I’m wanting to get her, as well as myself setup to shoot some club competition in the future. I have some (very little) experience in the compound world but recurve is new to me. Thanks again for the info!
Fully agree with all the points you make. I would love you to review the offerings from Arco Spigarelli, I shoot a Revolution, the fletching clearance is iffy, but it shoots incredibly well as long as you use ultra low profile vanes.
Nice looking riser, the Candy Apple Red would be one of my first choices and combined with the basic Samick limbs, would make for a good shooting and head turning bow to be proud of without requiring a huge budget.
Hello. Thank you very much for this video review, very well made and helpful. i am looking to get a Samick Avante or alternatively a Hoyt Alero. Do you have any experience with these risers?. Thank you kindly
Painted risers suck in durability. There is no way that I would choose a painted option over a anodized in a mid or high level riser. Imo paint looks cheap and doesn´t last. Painting a riser signals that you need to hide a rough machine finish. To make an anodized riser look nice, you need to afterpolish the milled riser A LOT more than if you paint it. And paint chip so after 5 years your shiny riser will look like shit. Naaah, I take the anodized over paint every time.
Hey Steve, I have brought this riser from your shop a few weeks ago, it looks different slightly, it doesn't have the clicker mount (the black tip just above the riser), and there are not place to screw in a mount (next to the rest & plunger screw holes) like the photos in your website at the moment, just wondering if that is some kind of manufacturing mistake?
Yes paint can chip and scratch. But I think when people look at buying a bow price is first consideration then the look. If the bow looks better then they are more likely to spend more.
Ask yourself what goes into the design, material, labor, and finish to justify the high cost of what is an inherently mass-produced product. Surely, the cost is nothing other than all that the market will bear. Will, a million-dollar looking bow make you a million dollar archer? Probably not!
You spend far too much time on rating aesthetics and absolutely miss key points that would highlight performance or anything a competitive archer would be interested in.
For the majority of archers, looks matter more than performance as they will never reach the performance limits of the budget kit.. If you are at the stage where you need the higher performance limbs and risers and can feel the difference, you probably wont be looking at Samick.
If companies and products need to improve, I recall not linking the PSE cable guard years ago and I said it, now if you say you don't like something on a Hoyt it is the end of the world. Improve the product, make it better. The new PSE cable guard rocks, the new over lap on draw lengths on Hoyt an improvement, new compression limbs on Hoyt an improvement. Build a better product and dominate.
Aesthetics are very subjective and I personally far prefer the green anodised Samick riser over the nail polish red win and win you compared it to. I think most brands are moving away from high gloss to more satin and Matt finishes. High gloss, to me, looks very 90s/2000s. Nice matt and satin finishes look much classier to my eye, so although you have strong opinions, you may find that your customers see things differently. Where I do agree is the pinkish reds. I don’t like them, but then again I would not want wine red. Just a nice rich crimson. That said, I tend to stay away from very bold colours, because if you change limbs, the ones you feel shoot best may well not look good. There’s a good argument for somewhat sober colours for risers..... but we’re all different! Some of the best colour choices IMHO are on the new Spigarelli Zen. Stunning blue, green and gold especially
Steven... your an amazing person. You know sooooo much. All good products and tips. I wish you were in the USA... I would buy everything I need from you. The Archery industry, is so lucky to have you... and making videos to enlighten us all. 1 USA, Texas... traditional archer... Thanks You for all you do !!!
i like your review and your passion for archery. Even though you didn't make it to the olympic but now you own an archery shop supplying the needs for young archers who might be in the olympics. Making a living while doing something you like is definitely a dream come true mate. Will be shopping online from your shop, I like those samick risers!
I like the Samick riser & limbs.
Based on your review, I just bought a Samick Ideal riser in candy apple red. As you said the paintwork is brilliant, and the grip fits me perfectly. With my 36lb Cartel limbs, it shoots brilliantly, without any hand shock. It’s really beautifully made and rivals Risers costing much more. Thanks for the great info you produce on your channel.
I’m state side US and I really enjoy your reviews. My goal is after shooting a recurve for about a year I want to also start shooting a compound bow. My wife is like no more bows no I’m just like ok sure.
Your shop looks absolutely amazing!!!!!!!
Just bought the Ideal in red! Will be using the WNS Delta C3 limbs. Can’t wait to get it.
I have a Samick Max Pro anodised in PURPLE. It's gorgeous! Agree with you about the CNC tool marks - disappointing is the right word. But it's lovely to shoot. Personally, I'm constantly admiring the shape of the Max Pro - great lines in my view!
Quick question! First I’m loving your videos. As COMPLETELY new to the world of recurve I’m really enjoying the info you’re sharing. My question is, it looks like my daughter would need a 54” bow for her size, do you buy a “normal” sized riser and 54” limbs or are there smaller youth bows? I’m wanting to get her, as well as myself setup to shoot some club competition in the future. I have some (very little) experience in the compound world but recurve is new to me. Thanks again for the info!
Fully agree with all the points you make. I would love you to review the offerings from Arco Spigarelli, I shoot a Revolution, the fletching clearance is iffy, but it shoots incredibly well as long as you use ultra low profile vanes.
Nice looking riser, the Candy Apple Red would be one of my first choices and combined with the basic Samick limbs, would make for a good shooting and head turning bow to be proud of without requiring a huge budget.
I love the look of the candy apple Ideal it's a nice looking riser.
i much prefer the matte anodised finishes to the glossy painted ones for some reason.
I really like the green masters, but machining marks would disappoint.
Hello. Thank you very much for this video review, very well made and helpful. i am looking to get a Samick Avante or alternatively a Hoyt Alero. Do you have any experience with these risers?.
Thank you kindly
Painted risers suck in durability. There is no way that I would choose a painted option over a anodized in a mid or high level riser. Imo paint looks cheap and doesn´t last. Painting a riser signals that you need to hide a rough machine finish. To make an anodized riser look nice, you need to afterpolish the milled riser A LOT more than if you paint it. And paint chip so after 5 years your shiny riser will look like shit. Naaah, I take the anodized over paint every time.
Great vid thanks, Looking at a Samick Privilege riser.
Am looking at a Multicam flim dip.
I think the Masters riser is actually called Max-Pro or Masters Max. It fist surfaced as a Prototype in 2011. I owe one in grey.
I see some awesome custom paint jobs on those risers
Hey Steve, I have brought this riser from your shop a few weeks ago, it looks different slightly, it doesn't have the clicker mount (the black tip just above the riser), and there are not place to screw in a mount (next to the rest & plunger screw holes) like the photos in your website at the moment, just wondering if that is some kind of manufacturing mistake?
I like the yellow and the gray
shot some of my best indoors scores with samick vision carbon limbs bought 8 years ago new for 90 pounds.....
Please could you shoot the ideal riser and limbs so we can see your take on an a modern entry level bow.
Isn’t anodized more rugged than paint?
Yes paint can chip and scratch. But I think when people look at buying a bow price is first consideration then the look. If the bow looks better then they are more likely to spend more.
Make cents!
What do u think about the avante
Will you be getting in the Masters Platinum limbs? would be really interesting if you got them in and compared them to the competition.
Aside from the aesthetic, what are the differences between the Samick Ideal and the Avante?
Can you compare the Samick Extreme $200 limb to the higher end stuff? Do they stack much at full draw/ are they smooth?
nice vid steve have placed an order ?
Which one is better riser, samick ideal or samick avante?
the samick max pro riser is the same PSE achieve ??
'Conflicted'. That's the word you are looking for at 10.23 :-)
Why you deleted the video about Samick Discovery ?
Riview krosen xenia raiser
Could you please share low rateRecurve bow. I am a beginner. I am in india
Sir please review Riser (epic fusion,krossen xenia 2) & limbs (epic fusion ex carbon,soul flash carbon)
What put me off Samick was the two tone painting, it just looked cheap!
Ask yourself what goes into the design, material, labor, and finish to justify the high cost of what is an inherently mass-produced product. Surely, the cost is nothing other than all that the market will bear. Will, a million-dollar looking bow make you a million dollar archer? Probably not!
You spend far too much time on rating aesthetics and absolutely miss key points that would highlight performance or anything a competitive archer would be interested in.
For the majority of archers, looks matter more than performance as they will never reach the performance limits of the budget kit.. If you are at the stage where you need the higher performance limbs and risers and can feel the difference, you probably wont be looking at Samick.
Masters has been out for ages. Its just not exciting.
How to lose a samik dealership 101
If companies and products need to improve, I recall not linking the PSE cable guard years ago and I said it, now if you say you don't like something on a Hoyt it is the end of the world. Improve the product, make it better. The new PSE cable guard rocks, the new over lap on draw lengths on Hoyt an improvement, new compression limbs on Hoyt an improvement. Build a better product and dominate.
Yeah, give an honest review and you increase credibility.
Would much rather see an honest review so when I spend my money I haven’t listened to a STINKING SAMICK FAN BOY.... yeah I said BOY!