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Formation of Indian Civilisation: Pre-Harappan Cultures 7000-3000 BC

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  • čas přidán 15. 08. 2024
  • In this lecture we explore the beginnings of Indian Civilisation, from the founding of the first agricultural settlement at Mehrgarh at 7000 BC to the expansion of civilisation along the Indus River Valley, till the growth of Harappa, founded around 4000 BC, which would soon become the capital of the Harappan Indus Valley Civilisation, a vast trading empire, extending from Iran to the Himalayas, and from Afghanistan to the Arabian Sea.
    Presentation made on Google Earth.
    Satellite imagery: Google Earth.
    Contents:
    00:00 Introduction
    01:14 Beginning of Agriculture in Jericho and the Fertile Crescent 9000 BC
    02:13 Founding of Eridu in 7000 BC and surrounding regions
    04:35 Geography of Indian Civilisation
    06:22 Mehrgarh, the first agricultural settlement in the Indian Subcontinent 7000 BC
    11:30 Koldhiwa, an agricultural settlement in Eastern India 6000 BC
    14:25 More settlements near Mehrgarh 6000-5000 BC near mountain passes
    15:45 Mundigak, and the consolidation of trade with Shahr i Sokhta, Iran
    18:00 Second Phase of Pre-civilisation in the Indus River Region: Regionalization Phase
    26:45 Burzahom Culture: Northern Mountains People of the Kashmir Valley
    28:00 The Founding of Harappa in Punjab 4000 BC
    30:15 The Beginnings of the Indus Valley Civilisation: Early Harappan Age 4000-3000 BC
    34:20 An Early Great War? - the Great Fires of 3200 BC
    36:30 The Colonisation of Western India : settlements in the Gujarat Peninsula and seafaring
    38:45 Northward Expansion of the IVC : Shortugai and the Lapis Lazuli Trade
    40:20 The Beginnings of Harappan Civilization and the founding of Mohanjodaro: post 3000 BC
    Sources :
    G. Possehl - The Indus Age & The Indus Civilization- contemporary perspective
    J. Macintosh - The Ancient Indus Valley: New Perspectives
    MS Randhawa - History of Agriculture in India Vol 1 Beginnings to 1200 AD
    U. Singh - A History of Ancient and Early Medieval India: From the Stone Age to the 12th Century
    R. Allchin and B. Allchin - Birth of Indian Civilisation- India and Pakistan before 500 BC
    #indusvalleycivilization #ancienthistory #googleearthtour

Komentáře • 375

  • @Geopoliticus
    @Geopoliticus  Před 6 měsíci +3

    Update on Subcontinental Neolithic Cultures Beyond the Indus: czcams.com/video/e_ah3zlpD-I/video.htmlsi=TbWu3IOq-rIZuPO1
    This video is slightly outdated now in light of recent discoveries. I am preparing an updated version. The structure is basically right but there have been a few more important discoveries recently.
    I should also mention I really regret the brainfreeze moment, I have mispronounced ANDRO-NOVO as Androvno. Please take note.

    • @Agnostic7773
      @Agnostic7773 Před 5 měsíci

      Waiting sir

    • @ancienttrenches7504
      @ancienttrenches7504 Před 5 měsíci

      At 35 minutes could those fires have been caused by meteorites?

    • @Geopoliticus
      @Geopoliticus  Před 5 měsíci

      @@ancienttrenches7504 War, more likely. Meteorites would have left an impact. The signs are of systematic burning.

  • @Ubique2927
    @Ubique2927 Před 2 lety +65

    This is just the kind of history that I am yearning for. The plethora of information on Greek, Roman, Etruscan, Middle Eastern, Persian, Egyptian and other ‘Western’ civilizations is great, but what was happening in The Indian, Chinese and SE Asian area. There are lots of programs and books of lists of rulers but hardly anything on the day to day life of ordinary people east of the Alexander Empire.

    • @silencemeviolateme6076
      @silencemeviolateme6076 Před 2 lety +2

      There has been less archeology carried out there.

    • @paragorn206
      @paragorn206 Před 2 lety +1

      What you seek lies in the domain of academia and/or in sources not written in English.

    • @silencemeviolateme6076
      @silencemeviolateme6076 Před 2 lety +2

      @@paragorn206 why not name them? Because they don't exist.

    • @paragorn206
      @paragorn206 Před 2 lety +2

      @@silencemeviolateme6076 Because I'm making a point that it's a bit silly to expect information to be always available in English. Look, I'm not a historian - and thus I have very little idea where the specialists in the relevant fields have hidden their digital archives. There might be a database somewhere that could help you find he journals you seek, but finding these repositories is more difficult than to just type a cool-sounding shit on Google's search engine. You might have better luck trying to google for the archives, but one tends to need a bit of inside knowledge on how tofind these things. I'm not sorry for a sourpuss reply, but you might be better off becoming a historian and learning hindi, sanskrit and chinese. Insert trollface here.

    • @silencemeviolateme6076
      @silencemeviolateme6076 Před 2 lety +1

      @@paragorn206 I'm not the op, silly. You are babbling on about nothing. East Asian archeology is new. Archeology is new. Not even 200 years old. The information doesn't exist. The archeology has to be done first.

  • @rahulchawla9040
    @rahulchawla9040 Před 3 lety +36

    Bhirana site in Harayana, India on the bank now dried Sarasvati river dates to 7,600 BC

    • @Geopoliticus
      @Geopoliticus  Před 3 lety +14

      Yes, Bhirrana is an important Hakra Ware site. Missed that one in my analysis. Thank you for pointing it out.

    • @rahulchawla9040
      @rahulchawla9040 Před 3 lety +4

      @@Geopoliticus Please also include how it relates to the other contemporary sites. Interestingly Bhirrana shows continuous occupation from 7600BC without a break, which is quite interesting.
      As I have only studied briefly about that, it starts using brick houses from 6200BC. The ASI website (interestingly) say that Lapis Lazuli artefacts are found right from the earliest phase (from 7600BC) - I think this could be mistake from their part.
      So far from my study I believe that there is much more to this civilisation as the excavations haven't been done properly due to scarcity of financial funds. Anyway, we have to work with what we have.

    • @Geopoliticus
      @Geopoliticus  Před 3 lety +5

      @@rahulchawla9040 The south Punjab to Haryana belt is really underexcavated in my view. Lots of discoveries remain to be made there.
      I’m looking for the ASI excavation report for Bhirrana. I generally look through primary data to analyse these sites, especially the newly discovered ones.
      The lapis lazuli artefact could be mis-interpreted due to disturbance of layers. Similar to a Kushan era statue being found in Mohanjodaro!
      Another possibility is that it came from a smaller mine, either in south Iran or southern India. There is a hypothesis that there might have been two more sources of lapis lazuli, which were exhausted very early, unlike the Badakshan mines which still have a lot of raw mineral.

    • @Geopoliticus
      @Geopoliticus  Před 3 lety +9

      @@rahulchawla9040 Also, you might this interesting - did you know that the modern city of Chandigarh is built on top of an IVC site! While clearing land for the Sector 17 plaza they found a Harappan era graveyard there. But it was quickly paved over. God knows how much lies buried under rest of the city.

    • @rahulchawla9040
      @rahulchawla9040 Před 3 lety

      @@Geopoliticus oh wow, Chandigarh is something very interesting. I agree, even Michel Danino once said that everyday there is an archeological site being destroyed in India.
      I wish governments were more attentive to this.
      Anyway I have some sources on Bhirrana which could be of interest to you.
      This is the profile of Prabash Sahu, I think he has been involved in the Bhirrana excavations. I had a chat with him in the past and he is easily approachable as well.
      nagpuruniversity.academia.edu/prabashsahu
      I would love to have chat with you as well. Do you have any social media profile or any gmail that we can connect on?
      if you prefer not to put your email here then you can email me as well on
      Rahul.chawla@live.com.au

  • @vipulchaturvedi7390
    @vipulchaturvedi7390 Před 2 lety +15

    This is a very informed learned and balanced exposition without the usual hyperbole half-truths,crass Stupid surmises,unnecessary jingoism ,self edification of presenter despite aweful paucity of knowledge.
    Good work.very succinct.

    • @repealsection230forbigtech4
      @repealsection230forbigtech4 Před 2 lety

      You shouldn't talk about Romila Thapar like that, no matter how accurate your description is and how wrong headed she is; she's a product of Marxist indoctrination and so it's understandable that her work is untenable.

    • @vipulchaturvedi7390
      @vipulchaturvedi7390 Před 2 lety +1

      @@repealsection230forbigtech4 Agreed
      You have a point.Even she knows what she writes is a non fact based theoretical hash, done for justifying existence and making money.

  • @gayatri555
    @gayatri555 Před 2 lety +13

    I have a theory. The reason why we only discovered the harrapan ruins is because of the dry weather. these are places where civilization died and was preserved in its old form
    rest of the india is lush and has a robust decomposition cycle which would recycle everything and hence we dont find any ruins everywhere else.
    same applies to everything else in the world. isnt it strange that the dry regions of mesopotomia, sumer have all the ruins despite it not being a very fertile place?
    it was obviously fertile once but dried out. and exactly because of this drying the civilization signs were sucessfuly preserved.

    • @Geopoliticus
      @Geopoliticus  Před 2 lety +5

      That is a very valid assumption. We have found signs of settlement in the Vindhyas as well, but again, wetter climates along the Ganges might have had much more settlement once, possibly using wood for construction, which has not survived. Our knowledge is contingent on preservation and the chance of discovery.

    • @gayatri555
      @gayatri555 Před 2 lety

      @@Geopoliticus Thanks for the response. Perhaps we will never know fo the ancient civilizations of the south

    • @mtcemngr5292
      @mtcemngr5292 Před rokem

      Will have any proof-even cheap- with u brahaspathi?

    • @paulheath885
      @paulheath885 Před rokem

      Harappans ' culture is important to Indo European Egyptian and ancient Persian civilizations from elsewhere including stone age cultures which had copper metal in Eurasia.

    • @alani3992
      @alani3992 Před měsícem

      Were these sites extension of the Zagros farmers. Mehergarh would be the entry point for Zagros people.
      Thats why these early settlements are to the North-West.

  • @casparcoaster1936
    @casparcoaster1936 Před 3 lety +11

    I have been searching for a lecture like this, I am surprised it does'nt have 100K views, many thanks

  • @pedrocastilhos2341
    @pedrocastilhos2341 Před 3 lety +37

    Dear Geopoliticus, thank you for yet another fascinating masterclass.

  • @dileepvr
    @dileepvr Před rokem +7

    I like how while almost all settlements are founded around access to food and water, and possibly as waystations for travel, Shortugai was founded primarily due to an innate aesthetic preference among humans for gems of a specific color. Our eyes and brains evolved to recognize fresh colors that stand out against a background of foliage as a food source. And plants/trees co-evolved with us and other animals to have their colorful fruits and berries stand out to aid in seed dispersal. And the aesthetic sense for colors was an evolutionary spandrel with no directed benefits for survival or thriving. And yet it is responsible for the existence of Shortugai.

  • @JohnEglick-pl1sb
    @JohnEglick-pl1sb Před 9 měsíci +1

    This is most informative of pre -Indian civilization, which began well b-4 3000BCe .

  • @saleemsurthy
    @saleemsurthy Před rokem +5

    Very informative video. Thank you. One thing that I have noted is that people seem to overlook the Arabian Peninsula, which wasn't a desert before but was much greener. Recent archaeological finds have shown that people did live here long ago.

  • @louiscervantez1639
    @louiscervantez1639 Před rokem +1

    Thank you for using Google earth to demonstrate the effect of geography on civilizing - good job - I’ll review this a few more times

  • @kashyapbhatt9219
    @kashyapbhatt9219 Před 2 lety +7

    Gondwanaland was a supercontinent. Indian plate was a small piece of Gondwana breakup that collided with Eurasian plate. Whole Gondwana didn’t.

  • @mrholmes2855
    @mrholmes2855 Před 2 lety +3

    In haryana , india , We just have got the skeletons of two people dating back to 7000 years ago and they both were wearing necklaces. we also got some old mud made utensils besides these ladies who used these for cooking in a cementary...! There are so many things we are still unaware of , specially the west...!

  • @divyajyotisahoo9073
    @divyajyotisahoo9073 Před 3 lety +10

    History simplified...thank u sir

    • @Geopoliticus
      @Geopoliticus  Před 3 lety +2

      You’re welcome. Hope you found it interesting.

  • @kaceobrwa7039
    @kaceobrwa7039 Před 3 lety +28

    i’ve seen many people have started talking about indian civilisation now days, key to indian civilisation is Saraswati river , many people in india are researching about it, and i think something big is coming

    • @ian_b
      @ian_b Před 2 lety +2

      Interesting, thanks for this comment. Something else for me to waste time googling now lol

    • @ramananb
      @ramananb Před 2 lety +3

      saraswathi river seems to a mythical river till date, were in Tamilnadu near madurai in kezladi, the oldest of the Indian civilization which had rig Wells inside their houses , so you guys better search in tamilnadu rather than the mythical river

    • @detectivesroy
      @detectivesroy Před 2 lety +13

      @@ramananb ASI stated Saraswati river is not a myth. There are many articles, related videos available weather. You should research before commenting. I agree about the historical evidences found in madurai...they are among one of the oldest. Recently a fort like structure has been found in odisha which dates back to 900-1000BC. So the more we dig the more we will know. I think indian civilization could date back to 10k years old.

    • @Eesanshiva
      @Eesanshiva Před 2 lety

      Waste of time research in Saraswathy river, first you understand Saraswathy name no river in India in ancient times, but you can find it in northern uran near Haiti river there ia a river called "Harakswathy " due to different in" H " (Persian )instead of "S"(Pali, India ) , Hindu (Persian ) instead of " Sindhu ( pali)..

    • @thethirddoor5480
      @thethirddoor5480 Před 2 lety +6

      @@Eesanshiva It's already proved that Sarswati river existed 🤷‍♂️.
      And it's also mentioned in Rigveda..

  • @VarunBandha
    @VarunBandha Před 2 lety +23

    This was a very detailed and well-structured presentation. Please make more of these and is there a part 2 for this which continues it further beyond 3000 BC?

    • @Geopoliticus
      @Geopoliticus  Před 2 lety +3

      Yes, I will continue the lecture series. There are two more presentations on the Harappan Civilization on the channel as of now. I am preparing one on Indo-Mesopotamian trade to be posted in a few days.

    • @stephenhoward7454
      @stephenhoward7454 Před 2 lety

      No further back than 3000BC, the flood!

    • @TheB657
      @TheB657 Před 2 lety +2

      @@stephenhoward7454 Bharat is one among the ante-diluvian civilizations. There are few samples from that period that match the date of the Löwenmensch (Lion Man) figurine found in Hohlenstein-Stadel in Germany dating to 35 - 45,000 years back.... such as the Shiva Kalpavigraha showing God Shiva in yogic sitting posture that was carbon dated by University of California Berkeley back in the 20th Century. It was dated to be around 26,400 - 30,000 years back.... Hence we come to know for a fact that complex civilizations with ability to craft along with metal work, melting etc. was present even before 3000 B.C.E. One example would be the Native American civilizations itself that predated the Mayans.

    • @VarunBandha
      @VarunBandha Před 2 lety

      Sorry, I meant after 3000 BC. The one covering mature Harappan period, it's decline and how it transitioned into vedic period, Aryans etc.

    • @logosnongrataest7671
      @logosnongrataest7671 Před 2 lety

      @@TheB657 that kalpa vigraha is fake.pls check it

  • @deanstuart8871
    @deanstuart8871 Před 9 měsíci

    I cannot tell you how delighted I am to find a high quality historical video on India, and how grateful I am for your work.

  • @merpatub
    @merpatub Před rokem +2

    I thought Krishna is older then 5000 B.C.

  • @chviswaprakasharao244

    Whenever any topic related to India is discussed, it focusses only on north india as if India means only North India. This video is no exception!

  • @ArifKhan-ir3vl
    @ArifKhan-ir3vl Před 2 lety +4

    Your channel sir is one of the best finds for me this week. Amazing content. Also really nice blog. Hats off to you. Thanks for educating us.

  • @kanishkgulwadi9245
    @kanishkgulwadi9245 Před 2 lety +3

    What about Bhirrana ? You didn't mention bhiranna which is also an old site like Mehrgarh

    • @Geopoliticus
      @Geopoliticus  Před 2 lety +1

      Yes. I regret the omission. Hope to include it when I do an updated version of this presentation.

  • @user-lh9no8ps2s
    @user-lh9no8ps2s Před rokem +2

    I hope that script of Harappan should be deciphered soon 🤗. Great work sir , thank you

  • @daya9359
    @daya9359 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Thanks for this divine informative video 📹.
    Eurasian Steppe, Central Asian Steppe, Mesopotamian Steppe Mukh-Putra Brahminvad 2,500 BCE ago destroyed Indus Valley Civilization. Deva-Ashur Sangram, Devi Bhagvad Puran Katha (story)is the proof of Aryan Invasion 4,523 years ago.
    Zodiac age time-line 323 years in ascending Dwapar Yuga. Jay Bheem Namo Buddhaye, Jay SAMVIDHAN ☸️

  • @johnm7963
    @johnm7963 Před 2 lety +8

    Overall a very strong summary of what's known. A map that reflected the coastline and climate of that time would have helped to make it much stronger.
    Very little paleo- or neo-lithic was covered, sadly. Very Harappa-centric.

    • @Geopoliticus
      @Geopoliticus  Před 2 lety +2

      Thank you. I have tried to fill in a few more gaps in this one, of course there is still much more to explore : The Ganges Valley Civilization: 9000-2000 BC
      czcams.com/video/y3KJ9dzF4oU/video.html

  • @radianceray3034
    @radianceray3034 Před 2 lety +3

    This is such a masterpiece....ty for your effort....
    Please make more videos on the truth of pre historic India

  • @robertforrester578
    @robertforrester578 Před 2 lety +1

    Just plain old good work Brother. Thanks from Philadelphia

  • @thomasthomas9795
    @thomasthomas9795 Před 2 lety +1

    The best I have seen on were "India " came from! Great job!

  • @kariannecrysler640
    @kariannecrysler640 Před 2 lety +3

    Thank you so much for this video! I have been trying to find archeology in the east from prehistory and sadly coming up short. Now I have specifics to work with😊 I only wish more sites can be found for the eastern part of the continent, but it may be a needle in a haystack situation with all the vegetation buildup over thousands of years.

  • @prashantkushwaha6055
    @prashantkushwaha6055 Před 3 lety +6

    Great Work

  • @elineeugenie5224
    @elineeugenie5224 Před 2 lety +1

    I was going to ask, but you said it: flint was the first tool there too. Excellent! Nice, quiet voice, clear👍thanks!
    Sheri Khan Tarakai has terracotta goddess figurines, yess

  • @franceleeparis37
    @franceleeparis37 Před 2 lety +3

    To paraphrase Gandhi ‘Indian civilisation… yes that would be a nice idea’😂😂

  • @ranapratapsingh3416
    @ranapratapsingh3416 Před rokem +1

    Very informative.

  • @contemporarymatters8106
    @contemporarymatters8106 Před 2 lety +2

    That's a lot of hard work.

  • @ToddRickey
    @ToddRickey Před 2 lety +4

    Much older sites with a megalithic culture existed already by the 'end' of the Pleistocene. Southern Anatolia, where the northernmost region of the Fertile Crescent exists, was home to populations supported by the first agriculture. By 11,700 years before present, their hunter/gatherer ways existed alongside farming behaviors.

    • @Lonestar10443
      @Lonestar10443 Před 2 lety +1

      Don't those anatolian sites have even older evidence of agriculture than jericho?

    • @Geopoliticus
      @Geopoliticus  Před 2 lety +2

      I have explored this in this lecture Deep History of Civilization: James Scott’s Against the Grain [1]
      czcams.com/video/XhjeDUhx8x0/video.html

  • @marysylvie2012
    @marysylvie2012 Před rokem

    Love it, love it, love it! Thank you soooooooooooooo much!

  • @raahinyapratapsingh1629
    @raahinyapratapsingh1629 Před 2 lety +2

    Gondwana land was the super continant from which all the continents formed
    It is the indian plate which moved from the proximity of africa and collided into Eurasian plate

  • @mandeepsingh133
    @mandeepsingh133 Před 2 lety +1

    Very informative sir. Thanks for investing your time for us.

  • @nadvga6650
    @nadvga6650 Před 2 lety +2

    Aarappan civilization. Aar is both six and river. so named after one river that branched out with five extensions. its where many works were done to make the writing systems usable. that is by using syllables to join and make new words. also, the sa re ga ma pa tha nee sa.

  • @dsbdsb6637
    @dsbdsb6637 Před 3 lety +10

    Plz. add sources which would make it even better & thanks for the upload, wonderfully explained.

  • @reubenpilli6549
    @reubenpilli6549 Před 2 lety +2

    4:39 Indian tectonic plate is not called Gondwanaland. Gondwanaland was a supercontinent consisting of South American, African, Antarctica, Australian, the Indian Subcontinent, Zealandia, and Arabian plates. Indian tectonic plate currently pushing into the Eurasian plate is called simply that - Indian Tectonic plate.

    • @Geopoliticus
      @Geopoliticus  Před 2 lety

      Thank you. I regret the error.

    • @reubenpilli6549
      @reubenpilli6549 Před 2 lety

      @@Geopoliticus It takes a big man to admit his mistakes. Hats off to you!

  • @touchstoneaf
    @touchstoneaf Před 5 měsíci

    Thank you so much for this! I've always found this civilization much more compelling than some other older civilizations, and I always found it really kind of annoying the way the record says essentially that things like plumbing just sprung up one day out of nowhere. I wanted to know how these new ideas had developed and why. I always felt like there had to be something earlier, but no one ever talked about it. So thank you for pointing out these earlier antecedents.

  • @Qwerty0007
    @Qwerty0007 Před 2 lety +2

    Very informative Video and presentation ... 👍

  • @HarappanEnigma2024
    @HarappanEnigma2024 Před rokem

    Great Presentation. Thanks 🙏

  • @stinglp1198
    @stinglp1198 Před 2 lety +12

    My father majored in history, MA . He always wondered, before 1500 AD , everybody in Europe wanted to come to the fabled india.next 500 years, due to concerted effort,india was almost forgotten. Who are the people, groups behind this ?.

    • @joesmith323
      @joesmith323 Před 2 lety +2

      India was important until 1900 - wars were fought in and over India. India was an important part of the British Empire. The Western world was distracted by Two World wars. Then India became independent and chose to effectively withdraw from the global economy. There was simply no reason for the rest of the world to pay much attention to India.

    • @-rate6326
      @-rate6326 Před 2 lety +1

      @@joesmith323 the thing you are telling is far newer than the thing he is asking

    • @-rate6326
      @-rate6326 Před 2 lety

      simple they just wanted to trade with india. (around 1400 AD)
      some travelers from europe went onto the mission to find india ( india is greek word ). ( around previous date )
      Columbus found america that's why they call native americans red indians.
      vasco da gama found indian subcontinent.
      then they started traded after that they ruled india
      india got its independence

    • @-rate6326
      @-rate6326 Před 2 lety

      @@joesmith323 i don't think you know anything about india history

    • @joesmith323
      @joesmith323 Před 2 lety

      @@-rate6326 he asked who was responsible in the 500 years between 1500 and 2000 for the concerted effort to "forget" India. Go ahead - give him the names if you think that happened.

  • @nishajaihindajain9192
    @nishajaihindajain9192 Před rokem +2

    👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👌⭐️⭐️

  • @gopalaraodasari7743
    @gopalaraodasari7743 Před 2 lety +1

    What is the evidence for fires and ash in these settlements and is it uniform in distribution in same time scale and period. Sediment studies in same layer with ash as in Narmada valley. Over generalisation will cover scientific truth
    Are there kilns and smelting chimneys or evidence of smelting of metals.

  • @brassteeth3355
    @brassteeth3355 Před rokem

    Very interesting insight. Thanks for this.

  • @Sumerian_Tamil
    @Sumerian_Tamil Před 2 lety +1

    These appear bit partial or bit like early urbanization from a vast tribal groups spread across... however, this gives us scope to expect more and better to understand.. the Harappan beginnings as camp is interesting.....

  • @michaeljoiner2503
    @michaeljoiner2503 Před 2 lety +1

    Excellent diacussion

  • @KAZVorpal
    @KAZVorpal Před 8 měsíci +2

    Taoist is pronounced dowist, not towist. It's transcribed with a T because of the 19th century Wade-Giles system of spelling.

  • @bukadaru5139
    @bukadaru5139 Před 2 lety +1

    Wonderful

  • @jmarsh5485
    @jmarsh5485 Před 2 lety +5

    Very much enjoyed this, particularly because my knowledge has been concentrated to learning about the cultures of the middle east and the eurasian steppes so far.
    In terms of settlement, do you think it simply occurred to control resources, with the security of numbers creating a political base? Along with a slow development to living permanently where the environment's resource richness simulataneously allowed for it?

    • @Geopoliticus
      @Geopoliticus  Před 2 lety +1

      Thank you! I think you will find my new presentation interesting, I go into the wider connections and exchange networks of this wider geographic theatre czcams.com/video/3pxq_INfFgc/video.html
      I think the broad linear pattern is as you describe it. An X factor we always need to keep in mind when talking about human beings is the matter of choice. In certain situations, sites could have been chosen by human beings for completely non materialist reasons. And grown and sustained through human endeavour. Personally I find this most interesting. But yes, the fundamental logic of geography is the primary one.

    • @jmarsh5485
      @jmarsh5485 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Geopoliticus excellent, thanks. Looking forward to the new one.

  • @ramasamyanand7346
    @ramasamyanand7346 Před 2 lety +1

    How come you never even mention sites in South India that are evevn older than the ones mentioned here?

    • @Geopoliticus
      @Geopoliticus  Před 2 lety +1

      I will be doing a separate presentation on South India and Sri Lanka.

  • @nirvoysaikia1456
    @nirvoysaikia1456 Před 2 lety +1

    Very good work

  • @n.c9653
    @n.c9653 Před rokem +1

    He uses the word 'civilization' rather loosely. Simple settlements with some agriculture do not make civilizations. There has got to be features such as urbanization, societal classes, writings among others to be called civilizations

  • @sidaniobendras
    @sidaniobendras Před 3 lety +2

    Can I get the next episode in continuation of this

    • @Geopoliticus
      @Geopoliticus  Před 3 lety

      Hello. This lecture is a supplement to this module : czcams.com/play/PL_CIYPw9fpy2WtyJBJF2BP-l1gPXAhxdL.html
      The next two lectures are on Harappan Civilization and Indo Aryans. I hope to have them out in 3-5 days.

  • @apy2911
    @apy2911 Před rokem +1

    Indus Valley Civilisation was a Proto-Dravidian civilization. Nowhere connected to Aryan Vedic civilization. Infact migrating Aryans destroyed the Indus Valley Civilisation

  • @padmakumarke2063
    @padmakumarke2063 Před 2 lety +2

    Respected sir,can you please provide the PDF form of this lecture.

    • @Geopoliticus
      @Geopoliticus  Před 2 lety +2

      Please see the references I have added. Many of these book are available at Archive.org

  • @oO-_-_-_-Oo
    @oO-_-_-_-Oo Před rokem

    outstanding!

  • @tempuser109
    @tempuser109 Před rokem

    The great fires coincidences with the dates of Mahabharata war, approx 5000 years from now

  • @jagdishjat9170
    @jagdishjat9170 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks 🙏🙏🙏

  • @gopalaraodasari7743
    @gopalaraodasari7743 Před 2 lety

    Given a particular temperature and climate post ice age , how.much time would it take for a river or lake to dry up. Sedimentation and gushing rivers from melting glaciers were the resources for indus civilisation. Extinction of rivers could lead to these nomadic pastoralists to migrate down or elsewhere either in groups, tribes or enmass.

  • @vineethjoshy4819
    @vineethjoshy4819 Před 2 lety +4

    The aim of some of the speakers from India on this subject is to uphold the Vedas and what is contained in the Vedas and make explanations to fix the many places mentioned therein to be situated in India. The Rig Veda is a horsey book mentioning a lot on the horse, but horses are not an indigenous animal of India and had to be imported. Not a single seal found in the Indus valley civilization contained the image of the horse. Whereas horses are central to the Yamnaya people of the Central Asia.
    The speakers are at pain to fix the river Saraswati in India as it is mentioned the Vedas. In the Avesta we find the Saraswati as the Harahaiti - the similarity in sound is noticeable - which enters Iran along the combined basin of the river Arghandar on the Afghan-Iran border and the river Helmand. According to Kochhar, it is this Helmand that is the Vedic Saraswati river.
    The source of the Helmand is in the Koh-i-Baba mountain range. Flowing for 1,300 miles through the heart of Afghanistan, the Vedic Saraswati joins the Vedic Drijadbati or Arghandar. The Avesta identifies this wide river as the Hetumanta (or, in varations, as Setumanta). In Iran the Saraswati is named the Harahaiti, which flows into the inland lake Hamun-e-Sabari in the Saistan area of northern Iran.

    • @vineethjoshy4819
      @vineethjoshy4819 Před 2 lety

      @@georgiopasca2720 who said Vedas are historical books? This is the attempt of certain people in India to historicize myths to make mega claims. Who said Vedas were written on the banks of a non existent river Saraswati? Yes, Vedas could be written on the banks of the real Saraswati, river Harahaiti.

    • @vineethjoshy4819
      @vineethjoshy4819 Před 2 lety

      @@georgiopasca2720 Your personal belief is irrelevant and does not count.

    • @Vedantshikhara
      @Vedantshikhara Před 2 lety +1

      Vedas says river saraswati goes n mixes in big ocean whereas ur so called HARAWATI river ends in a big lake.
      BTW, SWARASWATI river Basin has been found so RIP for ur story.😂😂😂

    • @vineethjoshy4819
      @vineethjoshy4819 Před 2 lety

      @@Vedantshikhara what is the authenticity of the Vedas? These are some of the wise sayings in the Rig Veda: Conversation between Indrani, Indra and Vrsakapi: (Rig Veda 10:86) :Indrani : No woman has finer loins than I or is better at making love. No woman thrusts against a man better than I, or raises or spread her thighs more. Indra supreme above all !Vrsakapi: O little mother, so easily own, as it will surely be , my loins, my thigh, my “head” seem to thrill and stiffen, little mother. Indra supreme above all. Indra: your arms and fingers are so lovely, you hair so long, your buttocks so broad. You are the wife of a hero …. Indrani: that one is not powerful, whose penis hangs between his thighs; that one is powerful, for whom the hairy organ opens as it swells and sets to work….

    • @Vedantshikhara
      @Vedantshikhara Před 2 lety +1

      @@vineethjoshy4819 now I'm 100% sure u have no idea about vedas.
      And this cheap translation which u have copy pasted here is really 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @magd4570
    @magd4570 Před 2 lety

    From Shrii PR Sarkar's writing on Rarh, a remnant of Gondwana land and the cradle of civilization of India. "The Himalayas were born many crores of years after the birth of Ráŕh.( From the Himalayas issued a daughter, the River Gauṋgá, and a son, the River Brahamaputra. The sand and silt their waters bore formed new soil; northern India and Báḿlá [Bengal] were formed. The bed of the sea that was to the east of Ráŕh rose higher and higher thanks to that sand and silt, and - after the formation of eastern Ráŕh - long after - many lakhs of years after - formed a vast plain (samatal). That plain to the east of eastern Ráŕh is known as Samatat́a in the Sanskrit language and Bágŕi in the Bengali language. Farther to the east, the sand and silt borne by the rivers of Ráŕh mingled with the sand and silt of the Brahmaputra and formed Vauṋga, or D́abák. The people of western Ráŕh migrated to eastern Ráŕh and set up habitation. This happened some lakhs of years ago. If human beings appeared a million years ago, then those inhabitants of the western Ráŕh of a million years ago found eastern Ráŕh to have been in a ready condition for them even before their birth. Even a portion of northern India arose before the origin of human beings. Samatat and D́abák, however, originated a little after the appearance on earth of humans. The people of western and eastern Ráŕh removed the forest cover and dwelt in Samatat-Vauṋga-D́abák.
    This is a description of the genesis of Ráŕh and Báḿlá What we consider, roughly, to be Samatat is 1) eastern Murshidabad, 2) Nadia, 3) 24 Parganas, 4) Kusthia, 5) Jessore, 6) Khulna, 7) western Faridpur and 8) western Bakhargunj.(12)
    We consider eastern Ráŕh to be, roughly, 1) western Murshidabad, 2) the northern part of Birbhum, 3) eastern Burdwan, 4) the whole of Hooghly, 5) the whole of Howrah, 6) eastern Midnapur and 7) the Indás Police Station(13) of Bankura District.
    We consider western Ráŕh to be 1) Santhal Pargana,(14) 2) most parts of Birbhum, 3) western Burdwan, 4) Bankura District except for the Indás Police Station, 5) Purulia District, 6) Dhanbad District, 7) Kasmar, Peterwad, Gola, Jeredi, Ramgarh, etc., of Hazaribag (now Giridih) District, 8) Silli, Sonahatu, Bundu and the Tamar Police Station of Ranchi District, 9) Singhbhum District and 10) the Jhargram Subdivision and Sadar North and Sadar South Subdivisions of Midnapur District."

  • @kelthuzzadofnaxxramas2725

    Wasn't Eridu founded around 5400 BCE?

    • @Geopoliticus
      @Geopoliticus  Před 2 lety +1

      The oldest structure at Eridu was a shrine built in the 7th millennium. The town began to grow around it only gradually.

    • @kelthuzzadofnaxxramas2725
      @kelthuzzadofnaxxramas2725 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Geopoliticus I see.

  • @1981kakhiladi
    @1981kakhiladi Před 2 lety +3

    You are sadly mistaken abt koldhiwa, rice was continuously grown in ganga valley even before 7000 bc and continued till historical times, there were various villages in ganga plain and also rakhigarhi and bhirana are also started farming around 7000 bc, please update your knowledge

    • @-rate6326
      @-rate6326 Před 2 lety +1

      they were most wheat and barley
      that don't mean peoples were not growing rice

    • @nishaverma4173
      @nishaverma4173 Před 2 lety

      did they also eat beef?

  • @frankesteinj
    @frankesteinj Před 2 lety

    Gr8 Work

  • @mikedesi5513
    @mikedesi5513 Před rokem +1

    S araswati civilization how was it related to Indus Valley civilization and the aryans if not what happened to them they seem to have just disappeared

  • @matthiasstrunz1343
    @matthiasstrunz1343 Před rokem +1

    I cant watch this…..this zooming and de zoom

  • @durgadasbandyopadhyay2087

    NEES BE UPDATED , PARTICULARLY KEEP IN IN VIEW THE EVCAVATIONS AT VIRRANA , LAHURADEVA , RAKHIGARH ETC . WITHIN THE ARENA OF HARAPPAN CIVILIZATION .

  • @muraliiyengar5077
    @muraliiyengar5077 Před 2 lety

    Very informative lecture. But the sound volume is very low. Either you need to talk a little louder or move closer to the Mike.

  • @faisalmoloobhoy3445
    @faisalmoloobhoy3445 Před 2 lety

    How do you arrive at these dates ?

  • @raghunarayanan557
    @raghunarayanan557 Před 2 lety +4

    Around 50000 thousand years back, Humans evolved in Africa, and they had started moving to other parts of the globe. That means, human inhabitation was there all over the globe, before and after the Ice Age.
    Then, why do we assume that the agriculture resumed only in the Sumerian Civilisation ?
    The agriculture may have resumed in India itself. Or, it may have come to India from China or South East Asia ..... or may be from Sumeria. We don't know.

    • @Geopoliticus
      @Geopoliticus  Před 2 lety

      Our understanding of the beginnings of agriculture is of a much more complex process. In hindsight I wish I had avoided generalisation, but this is meant only as an introduction. Please see: czcams.com/video/XhjeDUhx8x0/video.html

    • @Sunny12-23
      @Sunny12-23 Před 2 lety +4

      That is what western historians say and we slavishly follow.

    • @raghunarayanan557
      @raghunarayanan557 Před 2 lety

      Please read the first line as 50 thousand ........ Thank you

    • @-rate6326
      @-rate6326 Před 2 lety

      humans settled in indian subcontinent around 65k year ago
      they traveled out of africa about 70k-100k year old
      they developed the language 50k years ago ( some simple one )

    • @tychocollapse
      @tychocollapse Před 2 lety +1

      Because humans didn't learn to farm until 7k to 10 bce.

  • @Notmehimorthem
    @Notmehimorthem Před 9 měsíci

    Inmda began collding with Asia about 50 million years ago, not really in the time scale he is talkng of for homosapien (circa 300,000 yrs).

  • @TannerWilliam07
    @TannerWilliam07 Před 2 lety +2

    Ahh Bharat! Named India by Alexander the Great and Europe until Bharat owned and adopted Indian in 1950

  • @billstream1974
    @billstream1974 Před 2 lety +4

    Indian culture is a lot damn older than 7000 years old.

    • @tychocollapse
      @tychocollapse Před 2 lety +1

      Um, no, it's NOT. Hippie.

    • @billstream1974
      @billstream1974 Před 2 lety +2

      @@tychocollapse Sorry but, you are so very wrong and are very limited! No it wasn't founded by Ancient Aliens.

    • @Vajrapani108
      @Vajrapani108 Před 2 lety +1

      Well we go by the minimum, just to avoid mistakes. Better to under-estimate and be surprised than over-estimate and be disappointed

    • @billstream1974
      @billstream1974 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Vajrapani108 There is so much unexplainable in India. From the city found many miles off the coast where modern day Dwarka is located to the very large Sunken cities found off the SE coast. They were Exposed during the tidal wave many years ago.

    • @tychocollapse
      @tychocollapse Před 2 lety +1

      @@billstream1974 Ancient Egypt off coast is sunken also. Nobody believes it's thousands of years older. Sunken Dwarka is mere meters from the coast and isn't necessarily Dwarka and isn't impressive anyway.

  • @gopalaraodasari7743
    @gopalaraodasari7743 Před 2 lety

    What was the cause of the Mahabharata war. It was definitely not protection of grain. Could we get there sometime?

    • @Geopoliticus
      @Geopoliticus  Před 2 lety

      I will offer some reasons in an upcoming lecture.

  • @hkschubert9938
    @hkschubert9938 Před 2 lety

    What happened to Mohenjo-Daro?

  • @maurachapman4179
    @maurachapman4179 Před 2 lety

    When did you bring religious

  • @glennmungra5476
    @glennmungra5476 Před 2 měsíci

    Not enough contrast between the letters and the map background

    • @Geopoliticus
      @Geopoliticus  Před měsícem

      Sorry for that. I should have paid more attention to it.

  • @LucidFL
    @LucidFL Před 3 lety +8

    thank you for using BC instead of the ridiculous BCE

    • @guharup
      @guharup Před 2 lety

      Yes we must all accept jaesus

  • @hattusilli2225
    @hattusilli2225 Před 2 lety +2

    Indians due south are Dravidian originally. They are children of Ham . Due north are Indo-European, children of Japhet . Due West are assimilated by Persians , Medians , Elamite, Arabian recently , thus Semitic.

  • @Geopoliticus
    @Geopoliticus  Před 2 lety +20

    See Indus-Mesopotamia Trade in the Third Millennium: czcams.com/video/-HtMS-MmRBs/video.html
    Hello. Please consider this video as a very general introduction.
    If you’re interested in learning more I recommend two very good surveys :
    1. D. Chakrabarti’s India An Archaeological History books.google.co.in/books?id=wPQtDwAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=d+chakrabarti+archaeology&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjFipmekNL3AhX87XMBHdbzAWgQ6AF6BAgHEAM
    2. B and R Allchin, Formation of Civilisation in India and Pakistan (this is slightly dated but still a great overview).
    On Harappan Civilization see : 1. Rise of the Harappans czcams.com/video/Dj0Kn-J4OYo/video.html 2. Nature of the Indus Valley Civilization czcams.com/video/9GXMciWq8MA/video.html
    If you are interested in the integrated history of all ancient civilisations, see Deep History of Civilization czcams.com/play/PL_CIYPw9fpy2WtyJBJF2BP-l1gPXAhxdL.html
    Recently I have learned more about formation of prehistoric cultures in other regions of India. See presentation on the Ganges Valley Civilization: czcams.com/video/y3KJ9dzF4oU/video.html

  • @christianbrandt2647
    @christianbrandt2647 Před 3 měsíci

    We haven't fount everything yet. And we have to believ that there Was a vedic culture bevore 5000 bc

  • @vivekanand9333
    @vivekanand9333 Před 2 lety

    You have a fascinating topic, but ruined it for me with the constant zooming and not pin pointing places. Please redo video

  • @ganesanmuthiganesanmuthi5356

    The natures and actuak method of living learnt was taught be nature.

  • @nnes759
    @nnes759 Před rokem +1

    Ric Veda's verbal recitals started ~1700Bce to -1400bce at Afgan & Tajikistan (BMAC side) of Himachal hills, then after 1400bce, the Arian clans move into Punjab, Bihar etc regions & developed sanskrit writing using the existed proto Indian scripts fro ~200+bce- 400ce times.
    So the places& rivers names referred in Veda are to be primarily from 1400bce times, not pre1500bce Indus civilizations times.
    As, before Arians arrival, original Indians of Indusvalley cities & places already had their original names differently like Sindus or Indus river, pasupathi, lingam, Siva etc. All other names read from Vedic scriptures are to be analyzed carefully, e.g. Saraswati is also the name of Arian Vedic God Bramah's female half, While Siva, Khali, Ganapathi Pasupthi,Natesh, Lingam, (possibly Saraswati too) etc, most or all were existed preVedic arrival times, in Indusvalley places, as from the seals, artifacts & possibly, most or some, might be, in, still un deciphered, Indusvalley writings, etc too & not known by Arians Ric Vedic priests until later times. Note, a 2nd smaller Saraswati river identified during Vedic times, ran near Ganges regions ( very east of Indus river region

  • @proud_atheist5759
    @proud_atheist5759 Před 2 lety

    Looks like these ancient civilizations did not get the memo that Earth is only 6000 years old...LOL!!!

  • @swami8774
    @swami8774 Před 2 lety +1

    I wanted to remind the author of this teaching. There was no man made religion at that time. People lived on their own intuition and way of life.

  • @maurachapman4179
    @maurachapman4179 Před 2 lety +1

    How do explain the poverty? Not only in India but Pakistan. Iran is flourishing

    • @stinglp1198
      @stinglp1198 Před 2 lety +4

      Britain plundered almost $45 trillion from India between 1765 to1938. Estimated deaths due to starvation, genocide etc by the British over 60 million in 200 years.

    • @nitinthakur6569
      @nitinthakur6569 Před 2 lety

      @@stinglp1198 Even after such a large scale genocide, India is 2nd in terms of population.Props to the horniness of people.

    • @ubiquitous9105
      @ubiquitous9105 Před 2 lety

      @@nitinthakur6569 I doubt it's due to the horniness, it's a gradual trend you see.

  • @richardbennett4365
    @richardbennett4365 Před 2 lety +1

    I like to learn new things, but I would hope the information is accurate. The man is telling us about the settlement named Koldhiwa, and he states it is located on the River Ganga, but his yellow pin is placed north even of River Ghaghara. Perhaps he just slipped up. However, I think he is confused about the free-moving land mass that became the South Asian subcontinent and Gondwana.

    • @richardbennett4365
      @richardbennett4365 Před 2 lety

      I see now. His pin was dropped in the wrong place, and according to Wikipedia Koldhiwa and Mahagara are on opposite banks of River Belan near modern-day Prayagtaj District of Uttar Pradesh.

    • @Geopoliticus
      @Geopoliticus  Před 2 lety +2

      Hello. Just like you, I also like to learn - and creating a presentation, or any other social media content (which includes CZcams), is part of the process of learning for me. The usual disclaimers go that nothing should be taken at its face value without verifying it for yourself. A CZcams video isn’t much different from any other internet post, or comment. Only, I am using one medium, you, another.
      This video was made at a certain stage of my learning journey, since then I have added to my knowledge, corrected lots of gaps.
      I highly recommend using Wikipedia, Archive.org text search and Google Books as a supplement to get more exact information. Excavation reports on each of these sites are widely available on the internet. You can also see my supplementary video on the Ganges Valley Civilization in the pinned comment above for a more up to date presentation on prehistoric civilisation in that region.

  • @lingnarzihary2492
    @lingnarzihary2492 Před 2 lety

    What about Gobekli tepe

    • @Geopoliticus
      @Geopoliticus  Před 2 lety

      Before the post Holocene time frame I’m focusing on here.

  • @ronhak3736
    @ronhak3736 Před 2 lety

    There is no scientific prove that Ghaggar- Harka rivers were the Saraswati river Veda mentioned.

  • @muthuswamy2650
    @muthuswamy2650 Před 2 lety +1

    இந்திய வரலாறை வைத்து ஏன் இப்படி ஒரு புரட்டு வரைபடம். ௨ண்மை வரலாற்றைக் கொண்டு வாருங்கள்.

  • @casparcoaster1936
    @casparcoaster1936 Před rokem

    90 & 9 Cities of the foe

  • @ronhak3736
    @ronhak3736 Před 2 lety

    There's another country in the Subcontinent, Bangladesh.

  • @gappauch
    @gappauch Před 2 lety

    Signs of Rice cultivation near 9000 BCE in Ganga River Valley??Let more bdighings happen in Sites like Varanasi and Patna..So hold your horses Gentleman..

  • @123Vijay789
    @123Vijay789 Před 2 lety

    not from 7000
    its from 15000 years back.

  • @gyulaerdei3180
    @gyulaerdei3180 Před 5 měsíci

    Indian - civilization ... = BC
    23 000 - 1500......
    😢

  • @MuraliKrishna-fm7qv
    @MuraliKrishna-fm7qv Před 2 lety

    Befor all this Tamil Kingdom wich go under the sea after iceage becouse of ice water increading only Southindia & Sri lanka & Australia all bteakaway people in this place already do farming.but now India government & west dont want to tell the truth. After water incress people frome Tamil Kingdon go in ships to other place who start farming. Tamil Kingdom has 3 sangam period in this people who do farming.