30-06 only out to 100-200 meters??? Brother, a 30-06 will do anything you ask it to do at much greater distance than those you referred to. While it does not shoot as flat as a 7mm Rem Mag, or 300 Win Mag, it is considered the best all around caliber for big game and has taken everything on the planet. Ask a large percentage of hunters, they will tell you a 30-06 would be their choice in a “if could only have one gun/ caliber” situation. And just for record, I am a 7mm Rem Mag guy, so I am not biased in favor of the 30-06.
With modern powders, the '06 gives up so little to the 7mm. Rem. Mag that any animal hit with it inside 500 yards will not know the difference. Trajectory and wind drift is also very close. If you have a reliable accurate rifle chambered in either of these cartridges, you can hunt anything on the North American continent with confidence.
Id rather have the 7mm Mag, but it really depends on the rifle. The 7mm Mag is the better cartridge of the 2, but the old 30-06 is a pretty good round. The recoil on the 7mm is stout, and fast follow up shots is not going to happen. A M1 Garand in 30-06 has very fast follow up shots and a larger magazine. I suppose if i were being charged by a bear id want the M1, and if i was in a stand waiting for the bear, then id take the 7mm Mag.
@@blueduck9409 My question is "Do I think it's entirely up to me, exactly when I might be charged by a bear? When I was in Svalbard, the guy who was guarding the camp at night, fell asleep. When we all woke up in the morning, we had a Polar bear circling the camp, and left tracks in the snow. We were hunting, and we only had a 12g pump shotgun with us.
Black bears aren't hard to kill at all. I've used 308, 30-06. 270 and 30-30...they dropped where they stood. Great bullet selection for all these cal's. If I had to pick one it would be the 308 hands down. Really no need for high recoil mag's.
I’m in the Yukon. Totally agree with you. I’ve used 300 Win, 338-06, 45-70, 375 ruger and 58 cal TC big bore muzzle loader on bears. I taken both black and grizzly with these with great success.
Haven't been fortunate enough to harvest a black bear yet... but I've carried four different calibers throughout my years. The 30-06, the 7mm magnum, the 350 Remington Magnum and my newest addition for black bear a 358 Winchester. The problem seems to be I see them when there not in season. My brother has got one using a 300 Winchester magnum... the bear dropped on the spot. It was a 265 lb male.
@@trevorgomez3343 congratulations brother! Are you still hunting, spot and stock? I absolutely would love to harvest a black bear. Hunting in Pennsylvania is mostly luck. You gotta find a spot with fresh sign and patiently wait, or assemble drives to push them out towards standing hunters. My brother's and myself are actually hunting whitetail deer with a black bear tag on hand. Most of my life you only had three days to fill your bear tag. Mon Tues and Wednesday before Thanksgiving. They recently changed bear season and created an archery season a muzzleloader season the traditional bear season and then sprinkled a few days of bear season concurrent with deer season. Approximately 3,500 black bear are harvested yearly... with just over 220,000 bear hunters in the woods.
@@blackie1of4 Here in Washington we can shoot 2 bear a year. Only 10% of bear hunters get a bear, so every 1 of 10 hunters. I hunt a combination of stand hunting canyons, spot and stalk, and predator calling. Our fall season is from August 1st - November 15th. No baiting and No hound hunting, they are both illegal. We have 30,000-35,000 black bear in Washington State.
Hello Ethan, What do think about 7.62x39 Ruger ranch rifle with PPU Centerfire Ammunition 7.62x39 PSP 123 Grain. for tree stand Black bear hunting. Thanks.
I think some cartridges should be added to this list are tge 45-70 govt, the 44 mag, and even 45 colt in plus p loads like from buffalo bore have all taken black bear easily, with in the effective range of those cartridges. The 44 mag and 45 colt are best used in rifles for bear.
No, the mid sized cartridges will not be overkill for deer. I myself shoot a 270 wsm and its my all round hunting rifle. I also shoot a 30-06 which is more then adequate for anything in North America. The 7mm Rem Mag is great as well. Remember all these rounds have different types of bullets and bullet weights available and those two factors will matter more then the caliber or cartridge. Pick a bullet style appropriate for the animal and youll be good.
Hard to go wrong with an '06. Modern powders have really increased the potential of this fine old cartridge. The recoil is manageable for most shooters, it can carry almost 1500 foot pounds of energy out to 500 yards, is relatively flat shooting, and it's available almost anywhere.
@Jess Hadlock Blood shot meat is caused by ignorant dumb asses using lead core bullets that blow up on impacting game. All meat damage can be stopped by shooting any of the all copper expanding bullets.
You left out a great all around black bear cartridge, the .308 Winchester.Also in brush country ,the .338 Federal or .358 Winchester are superb choices.
I own a .308 but it simply lacks the velocity I want for bear. I'll be using my .300 Ultra Mag for bear in 2 weeks. My .300 Win Mag would be my second choice since I don't own any in .338 calibers.
@@patrickkinney4998 At short range my bow works fine as well. But when you have a spot and stalk tag and you're spotting them on the other side of a canyon between 700 and 1200 yards a 30-30 isn't going to get it done.
My choice 3006 I can take down any game with grains of bullet I'll shoot I got choice 3006 from 50 grain to 200 grains and more 220 grains.it's African cartridge also yes African hunting
@@sunnyztmoney they aren't. Half a dozen of the last bears I shot were with recurve with 40# limbs casting an arrow at 150fps. The last bear I shot was a dominant boar with a 45acp. 230gr xtp leaving the muzzle at 950fps and it went about 30yds. Of all the game I've shot bears go down the quickest/easiest. The issue lies in hunters that have a combination of inability to place their shot where and when it counts, and lack of knowledge of where the vitals are located. Basically for competent hunters they are very easy to kill. For incompetent hunters, they are hard to kill. Same animal, same toughness.
@@NorthRiverGuide elephants are strong and large too but if you shot one in the eye it would go down too. Bears are tougher game than deer is what I meant
@@sunnyztmoney if your plan was to take down an elephant, the eye would be a very poor spot to try and place your shot. When hit comparably, deer tend to travel a further distance than a bear and also take longer to die. Other than moose, bears have to be pound for pound the easiest to kill animals out there.
Small cal. rifles will cause you problems, all these experts will make for a lot of lost bears. Not everybody is a marksman, use as much gun as you can.
I have to disagree. If youre "not...a marksmen" you should be shooting high recoil guns that you cant shoot accurately. If you shoot a 270 well and accurately youre far better off then shooting a 375 that youre terrified of. Also, if you cant shoot accurately on paper you shouldnt be shooting our game animals. Practice until your confident and dont shoot further then you know you can. Big bullets dont kill animals if you cant hit the boiler maker.
@@TMar129 I said as big as you can which means to most people as much gun as you can shoot acurrately. I have seen bears taken with a 22 ,would I recomend a 22 no use as much gun as you can. It used to be my job to follw up on wounded ones not fun.
Killed a 436 lb bear two weeks ago with a .270, shot through the neck. Dropped it on the spot and didn't run. Yeah, bigger cartirdges may be easier, but waste more meat. Get a smaller caliber, and learn to shoot.
I hit a big bear in the point of the shoulder this year with my 270 at 100 yards.he spun in a circle n ran like he got hit with a pellet gun lol.buying a 7mm mag for next year n only going for lung shots.he was huge but I didn't expect him to shrug a 270 off like nothing with Hornady 140gr superformance sst
I've taken 4 black bear with a .270, one made the SCI record books and field dressed at 408 pounds. All 4 bears dropped in their tracks with 150 grain nosler partion. It's time for you to practice shot placement.
@@MetalStud I guess you didn't understand the idiot was shooting Hornaday SST bullet that is cheap garbage lead core target bullets that blow up on all game
If you take an ethical shot at vitals instead of trying to break shoulders you can take a black bear with 30-30 or even 762x39. Magnums to the chest or shoulders is some lazy hunting.
308 win?
30-06 only out to 100-200 meters??? Brother, a 30-06 will do anything you ask it to do at much greater distance than those you referred to. While it does not shoot as flat as a 7mm Rem Mag, or 300 Win Mag, it is considered the best all around caliber for big game and has taken everything on the planet. Ask a large percentage of hunters, they will tell you a 30-06 would be their choice in a “if could only have one gun/ caliber” situation. And just for record, I am a 7mm Rem Mag guy, so I am not biased in favor of the 30-06.
With modern powders, the '06 gives up so little to the 7mm. Rem. Mag that any animal hit with it inside 500 yards will not know the difference. Trajectory and wind drift is also very close. If you have a reliable accurate rifle chambered in either of these cartridges, you can hunt anything on the North American continent with confidence.
I just shot a bear at 370 yards yesterday with my 30-06.
Id rather have the 7mm Mag, but it really depends on the rifle. The 7mm Mag is the better cartridge of the 2, but the old 30-06 is a pretty good round. The recoil on the 7mm is stout, and fast follow up shots is not going to happen. A M1 Garand in 30-06 has very fast follow up shots and a larger magazine. I suppose if i were being charged by a bear id want the M1, and if i was in a stand waiting for the bear, then id take the 7mm Mag.
@@blueduck9409 My question is "Do I think it's entirely up to me, exactly when I might be charged by a bear? When I was in Svalbard, the guy who was guarding the camp at night, fell asleep. When we all woke up in the morning, we had a Polar bear circling the camp, and left tracks in the snow. We were hunting, and we only had a 12g pump shotgun with us.
I'll take 8mm mauser full military load 196 grain pill.
Love the in depth detail on this subject. Clearly an experienced hunter.
Thnx for sharing ur thoughts! Happy hunting!
Glad you started with the 25-06 which is my all time favorite.
Granted deer are my game of choice but that being said the 25-06 is devastating
Black bears aren't hard to kill at all. I've used 308, 30-06. 270 and 30-30...they dropped where they stood. Great bullet selection for all these cal's. If I had to pick one it would be the 308 hands down. Really no need for high recoil mag's.
.308 is a good choice too. Definitely love the 7 mag. too.
Thank you for the info! As thousands of Connecticut's residents have come to recognize, our Bear population has grown to become a problem.
I stick with the tried and true 45-70, 300wm, 30-06 or 375 ruger for bear up here in alaska
I’m in the Yukon. Totally agree with you. I’ve used 300 Win, 338-06, 45-70, 375 ruger and 58 cal TC big bore muzzle loader on bears. I taken both black and grizzly with these with great success.
I always used 308, best versatile round. Also used a 30-30 definitely one of my favorite
Agree 110%
Haven't been fortunate enough to harvest a black bear yet... but I've carried four different calibers throughout my years.
The 30-06, the 7mm magnum, the 350 Remington Magnum and my newest addition for black bear a 358 Winchester.
The problem seems to be I see them when there not in season.
My brother has got one using a 300 Winchester magnum... the bear dropped on the spot. It was a 265 lb male.
I just shot my 5th black bear yesterday in Washington State. Bears ranged from 140-326 lbs. All 5 of my bear I shot with a 30-06.
@@trevorgomez3343 congratulations brother!
Are you still hunting, spot and stock?
I absolutely would love to harvest a black bear. Hunting in Pennsylvania is mostly luck. You gotta find a spot with fresh sign and patiently wait, or assemble drives to push them out towards standing hunters.
My brother's and myself are actually hunting whitetail deer with a black bear tag on hand.
Most of my life you only had three days to fill your bear tag. Mon Tues and Wednesday before Thanksgiving. They recently changed bear season and created an archery season a muzzleloader season the traditional bear season and then sprinkled a few days of bear season concurrent with deer season.
Approximately 3,500 black bear are harvested yearly... with just over 220,000 bear hunters in the woods.
@@blackie1of4 Here in Washington we can shoot 2 bear a year. Only 10% of bear hunters get a bear, so every 1 of 10 hunters. I hunt a combination of stand hunting canyons, spot and stalk, and predator calling. Our fall season is from August 1st - November 15th. No baiting and No hound hunting, they are both illegal. We have 30,000-35,000 black bear in Washington State.
I’m curious how many bears have you harvested ?
308. Win will work 35 Remington will work . A lot more calibers will kill bear
Just use a 30: 06 and dont worry. Use the right shell and place it right. Problem over with.
358 winchester 225 grain nosler partition or 225 tsx
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Hello Ethan, What do think about 7.62x39 Ruger ranch rifle with PPU Centerfire Ammunition 7.62x39 PSP 123 Grain. for tree stand Black bear hunting. Thanks.
Loved my 338 Win Mag with a 250 gr Grand Slam Speer.
I use 250 grain accubond in mine. Drops 'em every time
I was thinking about getting a 308 but I've been told it's too light for Bear and elk
I don't remember hearing the 35 Remington or the 7-08 or the 308.
Yea the 7mm-08 has grain starting at 120 and gose up to 140 and 150 grain
What about the 35 Remington
I think some cartridges should be added to this list are tge 45-70 govt, the 44 mag, and even 45 colt in plus p loads like from buffalo bore have all taken black bear easily, with in the effective range of those cartridges. The 44 mag and 45 colt are best used in rifles for bear.
Greetings fromm Germany, the old 9,3x62
Which caliber is 2506
Would the mid-sized rounds be overkill to use for deer as well? I can't afford two rifles. No bait allowed in my state.
No, the mid sized cartridges will not be overkill for deer. I myself shoot a 270 wsm and its my all round hunting rifle. I also shoot a 30-06 which is more then adequate for anything in North America. The 7mm Rem Mag is great as well. Remember all these rounds have different types of bullets and bullet weights available and those two factors will matter more then the caliber or cartridge. Pick a bullet style appropriate for the animal and youll be good.
Hard to go wrong with an '06. Modern powders have really increased the potential of this fine old cartridge. The recoil is manageable for most shooters, it can carry almost 1500 foot pounds of energy out to 500 yards, is relatively flat shooting, and it's available almost anywhere.
@Jess Hadlock Blood shot meat is caused by ignorant dumb asses using lead core bullets that blow up on impacting game.
All meat damage can be stopped by shooting any of the all copper expanding bullets.
You left out a great all around black bear cartridge, the .308 Winchester.Also in brush country ,the .338 Federal or .358 Winchester are superb choices.
I own a .308 but it simply lacks the velocity I want for bear. I'll be using my .300 Ultra Mag for bear in 2 weeks. My .300 Win Mag would be my second choice since I don't own any in .338 calibers.
@@twotwentyswift wow, my 30-30 works fine. Never needed an Uber magnum on a black bear.
@@patrickkinney4998 At short range my bow works fine as well. But when you have a spot and stalk tag and you're spotting them on the other side of a canyon between 700 and 1200 yards a 30-30 isn't going to get it done.
@@twotwentyswift In what condition do you need to kill any game at the minimum of 700 yards? Wtf
@@henrythang07 In conditons where you don't want to go hungry! 🤣🤣🤣
30-06 for me
Wat would u say about 450 bushmaster
444 Marlin, cast 335 gr. - good to 200 yards.
My choice 3006 I can take down any game with grains of bullet I'll shoot I got choice 3006 from 50 grain to 200 grains and more 220 grains.it's African cartridge also yes African hunting
Since when is a 6.5 Creedmoor fast? LOL
No! No! No! A 221 Fireball beasts them all😂
A 6.5 Creedmoor is not considered a fast cartridge.
Almost 2700 with factory 140gr, that's not slow
.300 savage for black bear?
Black bears have a glass jaw. Have wacked a bunch with a 270 win..havein said that my fave black bear cartridge is a 35 Whelen
300 win mag 150 gr bullet. Will that work?
Great choice, more than enough.
150s might be a little light for this cartridge because they are generally lightly constructed. I'd go with a 180 or heavier.
@@georgesakellaropoulos8162 150 accubond at 3400fps works
The 35 Whelen with a 220 grain bullet moving 2900 fps gonna drop m
This guy isn't near the "expert" he seems to think he is.
Time to get rid of the ancient '06. It's 118 years old! Time to bury it!
6.8 western 450 30.06 338 really
There is no best but there is shot placement and bullet construction
I'm not a long range shooter I want to kill them fast if I can. I won't shoot as distance I'm not real comfortable with..
6.5Creedmoor really isn't that flat shooting...
Would a 350. Legend take a bear?
With a decent shot placement, and at a moderate range, absolutely.
Need a mic bro.
Why such big cartridges just to kill a black bear?
Bears are strong mother fuckers with heavy bones
@@sunnyztmoney they aren't. Half a dozen of the last bears I shot were with recurve with 40# limbs casting an arrow at 150fps. The last bear I shot was a dominant boar with a 45acp. 230gr xtp leaving the muzzle at 950fps and it went about 30yds. Of all the game I've shot bears go down the quickest/easiest. The issue lies in hunters that have a combination of inability to place their shot where and when it counts, and lack of knowledge of where the vitals are located.
Basically for competent hunters they are very easy to kill. For incompetent hunters, they are hard to kill. Same animal, same toughness.
@@NorthRiverGuide elephants are strong and large too but if you shot one in the eye it would go down too. Bears are tougher game than deer is what I meant
@@sunnyztmoney if your plan was to take down an elephant, the eye would be a very poor spot to try and place your shot.
When hit comparably, deer tend to travel a further distance than a bear and also take longer to die. Other than moose, bears have to be pound for pound the easiest to kill animals out there.
Small cal. rifles will cause you problems, all these experts will make for a lot of lost bears. Not everybody is a marksman, use as much gun as you can.
I have to disagree. If youre "not...a marksmen" you should be shooting high recoil guns that you cant shoot accurately. If you shoot a 270 well and accurately youre far better off then shooting a 375 that youre terrified of. Also, if you cant shoot accurately on paper you shouldnt be shooting our game animals. Practice until your confident and dont shoot further then you know you can. Big bullets dont kill animals if you cant hit the boiler maker.
@@TMar129 I said as big as you can which means to most people as much gun as you can shoot acurrately. I have seen bears taken with a 22 ,would I recomend a 22 no use as much gun as you can. It used to be my job to follw up on wounded ones not fun.
Killed a 436 lb bear two weeks ago with a .270, shot through the neck. Dropped it on the spot and didn't run. Yeah, bigger cartirdges may be easier, but waste more meat. Get a smaller caliber, and learn to shoot.
@@RckyMtneer If a 270 is what you can handle use a 270.
30 06 for everything. From 140gr to 220gr bullets
308 is best for long range too
Does this guy understand bears at all. My god
He better do his homework or go back to school
30-06 is minimum power, but 6.5cm and .270win are good choices? Youre confused dude..
He said 25-06 is his minimum not 30-06.
Jack O’Connor would disagree with you
@@haneshuntspnw7283 Jack thought the answer to every question was the .270 lol.
@@twotwentyswift jack was stupid.
@@twotwentyswift you obviously never read what Jack OConnor actually wrote.
I hit a big bear in the point of the shoulder this year with my 270 at 100 yards.he spun in a circle n ran like he got hit with a pellet gun lol.buying a 7mm mag for next year n only going for lung shots.he was huge but I didn't expect him to shrug a 270 off like nothing with Hornady 140gr superformance sst
I've taken 4 black bear with a .270, one made the SCI record books and field dressed at 408 pounds. All 4 bears dropped in their tracks with 150 grain nosler partion. It's time for you to practice shot placement.
@@MetalStud I guess you didn't understand the idiot was shooting Hornaday SST bullet that is cheap garbage lead core target bullets that blow up on all game
@@MetalStud where did you shoot them? I think I want to hunt bear with a 270
Part of your problem was probably the SST. Did you retrieve the bear? How do you know you hit the point of the shoulder?
@@MetalStud and pick a better bullet for the job, like you did.
Information not useful !! Your recommendation is somewhat dangerous!!! No mention of practice bullet construction ballistic!!!!
You realize 270 hits as hard at 400 yards as a 30-30 at the muzzel.
If you take an ethical shot at vitals instead of trying to break shoulders you can take a black bear with 30-30 or even 762x39. Magnums to the chest or shoulders is some lazy hunting.
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