Gascans9736 he will and always has because he is all about the art. That's why during the recording process he surrounds himself with the best of the best
Me too omg, I can still remember that in first and second grade I was taking swimming classes and I had them fridays after school at 6:45. And before that my mom always took me to the mall right next to the arena, where I had my swimming classes. And sometimes stronger would be played on the radio, but I always had it on repeat on my MP3 player and I would always jam it before I had my classes. This song will forever be my childhood anthem❤️🔥
@@milhouse777 dude what kind of reasoning is that, it's like you came up with something and then some famous guy came out and do the exact thing and people be like yeah he is more famous so he was the guy who did it first it sure is more complicated than this the way they came up with their sound and the way kanye came up with his but your point is exactly like my example
sure kid, some of us are obsessed with creating the best quality music and some of you are satisfied with basic sounds. for some art is about constantly beating on your craft until a crack into advent garde opens. you may not understand this concept because you are certified with being good but not exceeding your own expectations
Like Yellow said, if you don't understand the struggle then you probably haven't reached the point where you want something more out of your music. You finally come to the realization that since you already have the experience at hand, all it takes now is time and effort. Therefore you want perfection since this will forever be your mark. And some even want their own personal watermark by creating genres and that takes time, effort and the eye and ear for perfection.
Drums are the integral part of making any beat. A basic beat is NEVER good enough for me and must be tweaked at constantly for the right punch. I need to feel an OOMPH when I make mine...the thumping has to hit me in my chest.
I love the cut to the live performance at the end. That must be so rewarding, especially for someone like Kanye who produces his own tracks. To hear it on the concert size speakers and the crowd lovin it. Gotta be the best feeling in the world
matt wells i don't know where you got that conclusion from. Kanye didn't oppose Tim at all. Kanye didn't like the mix on his drums, that they were thumpy but not punchy, Tim told him he over compressed a kick that had no undertone. Tim gave him a kick with an undertone. Ye used it. Where did you see a difference in opinion?
art offical intellegence did he not keep trying to push what he wanted and show him instead of just saying that’s good enough. I’m not saying they fought but he was pretty adamant about what he wanted.
Uh sir, it wasn’t a right or a wrong that night me and Tim added drums to his beat. That actually me in that orange hat and that my ASR-10 I’m on and they r using
HANNON LANE I didn’t say there was a right or wrong that night , I’m just saying Kanye had a vision, they talked about it, then Tim did what he does. I was just trying to point out this was a young Kanye and he knew what he wanted even tho he was in the presence of a legend.
This is what happened. TIMBALAND was on tour with Justin TIMBERLAKE and we were headed for the Overseas leg of the tour. But first, we had to go to Connecticut. Kanye needed stronger drums to perform at the 2007 VMA’s. So he came to me and Tim to add heavier drums to his original drums. Kanye did not “stand up” to Tim in no kinda way.
Everyone always gets mad at this song because Kanye "ripped off" Daft Punk but they took the sample from a 70's song by Edwin Birdsong called Cola Bottle Baby. And timberland didn't do much for this song the main mixing engineer was Manny Marroquin.
Wow I just witnessed a problem-solving session with Ye and Timb? This made me really emotional and teary. A reminder that I should be off CZcams and writing code. Where is my IDE, where is Python...
I didnt know Tim was part of making this until I saw this video wow. I mean I read credits etc but I thought it was just because he had sampled something from him maybe. I was wrong.
actually, paranoid was sampled..i heard the original to that song like a month ago and was like oh ok thats where he got that from...its not a bad thing tho, people just need to stop hating on Kayne cause they want his spot, thats the only reason people hate
@knansd Don't even bother mate, I get sick of ignorant people saying shit because they just found out what sampling is. You are exactly right, to sample like Kanye is hella hard. It's pure art. I love Daft Punk but people need to realise that Kanye just took a vocal sample and the rest was him, unlike Harder,Faster,Better,Stronger which is a borderline copying of Edwin Birdsongs Cola Bottle Baby.
its like watching 2 world class chefs tinker with a dish, more this more that, sear or broil, chop or mini cuts, sour, sweet, bitter, savory....... fucking amazing.
See how they all paying attention when tim shows them the impact the 808s on top of the original kick… at the beginning of the video they said they tried to mix the song 10- different mixers Tim said your tryna compress a sound that don’t exist
i'm gone write an essay like u did, but i said the (80s on) which means even to this day songs that are hits have been sampled, and there is a lot of producers that don't know how to play instruments but have an ear for what they are going for, therefor bringing a person that can make it happen....
YER THEY NO AND I NO THE KICK NEEDS TO BE THE RIGHT KICK PLAY A THOUSAND KICKS AND ONLY ONE WILL MATCH THE BEST, THATS WHY THESE BOTHERS ARE PAID FOR THEIR SHIT. THEY HAVE THE BEST EARS IN THE BUSINESS THEY ARE ALL OBSESED LIKE ME THATS WHAT MAKES THEM LEADERS. RESPECT TO EVERY ONE OF YOU MAN
PRVRS nobody said they are. And it’s much easier saying that than doing it lmao everyone thinks the trap shit is so easy so basic until they get to doing it and shit just ain’t hitting right
Timbaland found that kick beautifully, he's got a fantastic ear
@@namiqqafarov1397 extra bass
This shows Ye was humble enough to go to the OG for help. I love it.
Gascans9736 he will and always has because he is all about the art. That's why during the recording process he surrounds himself with the best of the best
Imma sick Fuck
@ I only like Kanye cause he supports trump
Worst Producer wow, you're such an intellectual.
Worst Producer when did he ever say he was an engineer ? Go and find a producer that is as good at engineering and he needs it to be
i miss this era when stronger played all the time on the radio
Heard it on the radio about a month ago on my way to work. A true classic.
I hate stronger
true
Me too omg, I can still remember that in first and second grade I was taking swimming classes and I had them fridays after school at 6:45. And before that my mom always took me to the mall right next to the arena, where I had my swimming classes. And sometimes stronger would be played on the radio, but I always had it on repeat on my MP3 player and I would always jam it before I had my classes. This song will forever be my childhood anthem❤️🔥
Negative. I relish every moment it’s NOT played. Not that great of a song, dude
Some say they're still mixing it today
hahahaha
Cause they are. He said that
douglas fairmeadow lmao
Nah you're thinking of The Life of Pablo
HAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAAHHAAH
love him or hate him, he took 808s to a new level.
💯
don't wanna punch down to anyone but that was three six mafia
@@miladbarikani3591 but they didn't have the popular appeal of Knaye, that's why he's more influent with these sounds.
@@milhouse777 dude what kind of reasoning is that, it's like you came up with something and then some famous guy came out and do the exact thing and people be like yeah he is more famous so he was the guy who did it first
it sure is more complicated than this the way they came up with their sound and the way kanye came up with his but your point is exactly like my example
With his next album too
This is a real piece of modern hip hop history! Don’t forget this video...
every producer knows the struggle of getting the perfect drum, that shit is irritating
sure kid, some of us are obsessed with creating the best quality music and some of you are satisfied with basic sounds. for some art is about constantly beating on your craft until a crack into advent garde opens. you may not understand this concept because you are certified with being good but not exceeding your own expectations
Like Yellow said, if you don't understand the struggle then you probably haven't reached the point where you want something more out of your music.
You finally come to the realization that since you already have the experience at hand, all it takes now is time and effort. Therefore you want perfection since this will forever be your mark. And some even want their own personal watermark by creating genres and that takes time, effort and the eye and ear for perfection.
lol yup
Metro just saying this bc he or she feels threatened by other producers. He wants to make others feel like he or she does, which is inadequate.
Drums are the integral part of making any beat. A basic beat is NEVER good enough for me and must be tweaked at constantly for the right punch. I need to feel an OOMPH when I make mine...the thumping has to hit me in my chest.
I love the cut to the live performance at the end. That must be so rewarding, especially for someone like Kanye who produces his own tracks. To hear it on the concert size speakers and the crowd lovin it. Gotta be the best feeling in the world
This is straight inspiration. Put in the work and show the whole world
There is a science to finding the perfect element to a record to make it feel complete.
Love him or hate him, the man gets to do what he's passionate about and its beautiful to watch
i was so lost the whole time but so amazed at the same time!
which pixel is kanye west?
The one with the maga hat
Lol
Worst Producer lol
this made me laugh for 5 solid minutes!
The smaller black one
I could look at this type shit all day...
Legend has it that Kanye is still looking for a better kick drum
I love seeing artists in studio, let’s you experience it a lot better
I like how Young Kanye stood his ground to a big time producer and and fought for his music and was right in the end.
matt wells i don't know where you got that conclusion from. Kanye didn't oppose Tim at all. Kanye didn't like the mix on his drums, that they were thumpy but not punchy, Tim told him he over compressed a kick that had no undertone. Tim gave him a kick with an undertone. Ye used it. Where did you see a difference in opinion?
art offical intellegence did he not keep trying to push what he wanted and show him instead of just saying that’s good enough. I’m not saying they fought but he was pretty adamant about what he wanted.
Uh sir, it wasn’t a right or a wrong that night me and Tim added drums to his beat. That actually me in that orange hat and that my ASR-10 I’m on and they r using
HANNON LANE I didn’t say there was a right or wrong that night , I’m just saying Kanye had a vision, they talked about it, then Tim did what he does. I was just trying to point out this was a young Kanye and he knew what he wanted even tho he was in the presence of a legend.
This is what happened. TIMBALAND was on tour with Justin TIMBERLAKE and we were headed for the Overseas leg of the tour. But first, we had to go to Connecticut. Kanye needed stronger drums to perform at the 2007 VMA’s. So he came to me and Tim to add heavier drums to his original drums. Kanye did not “stand up” to Tim in no kinda way.
2:45 little did he know he was playing the outro to H*A*M
all black guns like im going to war with africa
Holy fuck
whats that
That’s exactly what came to mind when I heard that
Geniuses in their element
timbs looking at him raising the bass like "yo, you gotta have the beat breathe so hard it grabs the hair on ya arms"
Dawg, I’ve been bobbing to this whole video even when they’re simply talking
I want to hear all the versions of stronger
That's best part of production music watching the magic moment happen
those orchestra samples were tight as piss!
Lofi Kitty lmao, tight as piss tho? 😂
portcitypro. Lmaooo definition of trying too much lol.
“So you like to drink piss mate?”
legends!!!!! they dont make shit like this anymore...
Oh SHUT, UP
bow in the presence of greatness
Such an honor to watch these mans work
Inspiration for any music producer....... 3.20 mins onwards ....... #passion
Everyone always gets mad at this song because Kanye "ripped off" Daft Punk but they took the sample from a 70's song by Edwin Birdsong called Cola Bottle Baby. And timberland didn't do much for this song the main mixing engineer was Manny Marroquin.
Nobody ever gets mad
Woaahhh remix-ception
Nobody stole anything. It was all properly credited and Daft Punk e en went on to work with Kanye on Yeezus
All the work they did on that kick drum and it still barely shows up on laptop speakers. Lol.
Morgan_Fucking_Freeman thats what makes this so amazing
explain lol
explain lol
@@Dani00075 explain what?
I'm talking to Morgan
@Elraton360 And Daft Punk sampled "Cola Bottle Baby" by Edwin Birdsong. It's music, people share from each other....
facts
When two producers reach the same same page! lol. 😆
Timberland : I have every drum machine known to man
Daft Punk :*Cough*
LOL
"already talking about the 808 at this time ", hes not talking about the album, hes talking aboot the beet, how dumb are sum people.
Jason Thompson beet
Beet
Beet
Beet
Eistein is beat not beet
Thank you kanye, Very cool!
Goes to show you a simple pattern with the right sounds can have an amazing outcome.
Wow I just witnessed a problem-solving session with Ye and Timb? This made me really emotional and teary. A reminder that I should be off CZcams and writing code. Where is my IDE, where is Python...
No one cares you write python
Nick Iwoa What do you write? That’s right, nothing.
Get productive
@@isaiahrichards9319 I don't jerk off in others faces that I program, you pretentious loser
He’s just saying that this beautiful work is reminding he should be working
Beautiful work & inspiration🙏🏾💪🏾💎.
this id one of the few times ive seen west humble hes like a kid in a candy shop when hes listening to timbo
Legend has it Kanye is on his 1,200th mix
But does Tim have the Rackkick.01
Farai The Producer aye
Its so corny to me how some of these new producers just want to copy down to the exact kick sample.
He said he got every sound nigga
Inspiring man I hope I can do shit like this one day
3 years later have you achieved your goal?
I could watch videos like these where we see how the biggest hits ever were made 24/7 and NOT get bored.
4:13
I love the way he asks
"You wanna put that on sumn?"
Not sure why
"I can beef it up right now and you're gonna go crazy." Yep, we all did
this history
I didnt know Tim was part of making this until I saw this video wow. I mean I read credits etc but I thought it was just because he had sampled something from him maybe. I was wrong.
5:43 ”there, fixed it for you”
So that’s how he made stronger
actually, paranoid was sampled..i heard the original to that song like a month ago and was like oh ok thats where he got that from...its not a bad thing tho, people just need to stop hating on Kayne cause they want his spot, thats the only reason people hate
All those people wanna be there cuz of him. It's love baby.
PLAIN PAT WHATTUP!
Goosebumps
I luv how A trak is just chillin' in the back
good transition to the live video
They're still not satisfied over that kick in 2021....
Bono said it first "- I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For-"
@ϟ Still not dead, homie....lol. Check for me in another 10 years, though. I might not answer. RIP to the future me.
@knansd Don't even bother mate, I get sick of ignorant people saying shit because they just found out what sampling is. You are exactly right, to sample like Kanye is hella hard. It's pure art. I love Daft Punk but people need to realise that Kanye just took a vocal sample and the rest was him, unlike Harder,Faster,Better,Stronger which is a borderline copying of Edwin Birdsongs Cola Bottle Baby.
its like watching 2 world class chefs tinker with a dish, more this more that, sear or broil, chop or mini cuts, sour, sweet, bitter, savory.......
fucking amazing.
i don't understand why tim didn't get production credit on this
He did
He got some credit under something like "Additional Drum Programming" as I remember seeing it in the booklet when I bought Graduation years ago
He def got credited for exactly what he did. Ye gives erybody credit for anything.
Vincent Salamatino he didnt credit aphex twin on blame game
Postmodern Musical Sophist He was credited as Richard James
I'm here to confirm they are still mixing it TODAY! FACT!
See how they all paying attention when tim shows them the impact the 808s on top of the original kick… at the beginning of the video they said they tried to mix the song 10- different mixers Tim said your tryna compress a sound that don’t exist
ASR-10 is classic
Legendary.
true
Kanye tryna get just the kick, Timbaland tryna move a beat. this why he be having 10 names on 1 song 🤣
soo he put timbalan kicks?
Hit Factory has so much knowledge.. it's on my to do list
I'm such a fucking sell out. I went from working in a studio, doing this stuff to studying finance.
Needed Mike Dean
Dem grey pants, somehow a Timbaland signature Outfit 😎
I miss this Kanye
dude is prodigious
i'm gone write an essay like u did, but i said the (80s on) which means even to this day songs that are hits have been sampled, and there is a lot of producers that don't know how to play instruments but have an ear for what they are going for, therefor bringing a person that can make it happen....
masterpiece
GOATS AT WORK, dont disturb
Timb is the king of Bass!
Guy seemed so much happier when he was just focusing on music.
YER THEY NO AND I NO THE KICK NEEDS TO BE THE RIGHT KICK PLAY A THOUSAND KICKS AND ONLY ONE WILL MATCH THE BEST, THATS WHY THESE BOTHERS ARE PAID FOR THEIR SHIT. THEY HAVE THE BEST EARS IN THE BUSINESS THEY ARE ALL OBSESED LIKE ME THATS WHAT MAKES THEM LEADERS. RESPECT TO EVERY ONE OF YOU MAN
relax..
yeah but the rap drums aren't the hardest drums to play, and create.
PRVRS nobody said they are. And it’s much easier saying that than doing it lmao everyone thinks the trap shit is so easy so basic until they get to doing it and shit just ain’t hitting right
inspiration
And legend was born
Holy crap this video is 12yrs old
Last time I made a comment on this video was nine years ago, time flies, huh?
thats fucking beautiful, look at those studiosssss fackkkkk
Timbo is the KING :)
Royal Fam.
love
Timbo is a legend
I ove the synths on tht song so much
Watch the 2008 Grammy performance with daft punk
They had to call Timbo to make shit bang 😂
Timbaland is a badass😁
Back when Kanye was Kanye
I miss kanye . rip
WUT
This is awesome
I try to do this but no body really believes in the vision I have in my head. Sometimes some people just won’t let you be great.
Timbaland the goat
This is visual curtural x genius history.. music at it's greatest
Dude you are trippin'. I luv the ASR, but the MPC is magic too
Kayne has good ears to what sounds good.... ejplevin, listen and learn.
6:14
seeeeee! the man is humble,.......... dope
wait....so stronger got updated versions after it was released on radio? neat
@Proseedz Nobody else made the drums...He was just having some help find the right sonic sound of them...No shame in that
The OGs
when this started i was like WTF!!!