WHAT HAPPENED To The 2017 NBA Draft?

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  • čas přidán 2. 06. 2024
  • 2017 was an INSANE time to be an NBA fan… we had the KD era Warriors dominating the league, a CRAZY amount of young talent coming in… and an exciting draft class with some of the league’s post prestigious teams picking at the top. Going into the draft process, although this would change, the top 3 picks were held by the Celtics, Lakers, and Sixers in that order. These were teams clearly transitioning to new eras for their franchises BUT also ones that were extremely excited about this 2017 NBA draft.
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Komentáře • 143

  • @rigbythekhajiit
    @rigbythekhajiit Před 3 měsíci +204

    John Isaac is such a huge what if for me. Prior to the massive injuries he was beginning to flash some really intriguing shot creation/shot making on a decent Magic team

    • @moresportinglogically4420
      @moresportinglogically4420  Před 3 měsíci +65

      And even now, the defensive potential isn't theoretical... it is still there and there are a ton of advanced stats that support that even now post injuries. An interesting guy to keep an eye on

    • @Shortballa11
      @Shortballa11 Před 3 měsíci +14

      Defensively the guy is one of the best right now

    • @tfish1591
      @tfish1591 Před 3 měsíci

      ⁠o 9
      z OK

    • @mewchuking8639
      @mewchuking8639 Před 3 měsíci +2

      He's good just doesn't play much sadly

    • @tj5180
      @tj5180 Před 3 měsíci +2

      He got injured against the hawks.it’s tough to see. He was like a top 3-5 defender in the league when healthy

  • @zakking4983
    @zakking4983 Před 3 měsíci +127

    The Celtics other 1st round pick led to them getting Derrick White in the trade where Langford was traded to the spurs! So ended up working out amazingly

  • @mr.longjohn0014
    @mr.longjohn0014 Před 3 měsíci +57

    Man injuries ruin this class so much. Lonzo, Foltz, John Isaac, and more all look like legit potential/future all stars who all got hurt way to soon into their careers, basically instantly. Glad they’re all still productive players when they do play.

    • @arnellsmith
      @arnellsmith Před 3 měsíci +4

      Ruined it sooo much, Fultz was literally one of the best guard prospects, Isaac can be a DPOY if healthy, and with Lonzo I never seen someone make that dramatic of an improvement shooting wise while being a great defender and passer.

    • @askyourgirlabme6869
      @askyourgirlabme6869 Před 3 měsíci +3

      Can’t be the nba without the what if players.

  • @smiis3149
    @smiis3149 Před 3 měsíci +42

    Hey, I feel you could have elaborated a lot more on Fultz.
    First off, almost all of his issues in the league related to his thoracic outlet syndrome (TOS), resulting in an inability to comfortably raise his shooting arm. Secondly, last year was his career 'renaissance' - was the Magic's best player for stretches, and there was a semblance of a 'big three' forming with Franz and Paolo. He improved exponentially as the season went on, raising almost every stat and even sinking pull-up threes (something he hadn't even attempted in years). His work ethic was absolutely off the charts as he strived to become what he was once projected.
    Unfortunately, this season his TOS flared up in a big way yet again and he had to completely rework his shooting stroke. This took a massive toll on him mentally (repeated setbacks ofc can do that) and he looked a shell of himself on the court. After looking like he was on an all-star trajectory to round off 22/23, it now looks like the Magic will let his contract run. So incredibly sad

    • @MarlonT
      @MarlonT Před 3 měsíci +15

      Damn I didn’t know the injury came back this year smh that really sucks

    • @jeremylugo5206
      @jeremylugo5206 Před 3 měsíci +11

      honestly didn’t know that his TOS flared up, i knew he has been out for a while, but didn’t know what for
      i hope he gets back to how he was playing the last few years with the Magic. i could imagine having to rework your WHOLE shooting form again takes a toll on you mentally

    • @SupercellSucks
      @SupercellSucks Před měsícem

      I feel he could've said less. No one cares about Fultz.

  • @owenaiabens4940
    @owenaiabens4940 Před 3 měsíci +44

    Monk 100% would have be an Allstar by now if he was drafted by a competent franchise with any amount of developmental abilities.

    • @KB-313
      @KB-313 Před 3 měsíci +3

      sounds like Javale and Swaggy P. A lot of my Wiz players would be better off elsewhere

    • @willstout5988
      @willstout5988 Před 3 měsíci +3

      Glad he’s playing with Fox and looking like a legit 6MOTY.

    • @shanefrederick7731
      @shanefrederick7731 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Who knew the Kings would be the team that knew how to use him best? Go Kings!

    • @chrisschaeffer9661
      @chrisschaeffer9661 Před měsícem

      Go Kings. Payback the NBA for RIGGING the 2000 and 2002 WCFs and Rigging them ( Tim Donahee) for Shaq and Kobe. That's why as a Blazer fan I often Root for the Kings. I know how it feels when (Stern) Steals A Title from your Team.

  • @johnwinston1499
    @johnwinston1499 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Love this channel , keep up the great long form content . I’m learning so much about the past nba and interesting details I didn’t know about. Just subscribed!

  • @TheFlameb0y
    @TheFlameb0y Před 3 měsíci +21

    Starters:
    PG: Fox
    SG: Mitchell
    SF: Tatum
    PF: Markkanen
    C: Adebayo
    Reserves/Bench:
    PG: Fultz/Lonzo/DSJ
    SG: White/Monk
    SF: Anunoby/Brooks/Hart
    PF: Kuzma/John Collins/Giles
    C: Allen/Hartenstein
    Honestly this team would beat any team in the NBA right now.

  • @el1tefire252
    @el1tefire252 Před 3 měsíci +70

    Those injuries destroyed what could’ve been Fultz

    • @alandpost
      @alandpost Před 3 měsíci +2

      Someday maybe we'll get the full story. Just so weird.

    • @nawtursav11or
      @nawtursav11or Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@alandposti thought everyone already knew abt the nerve condition fultz had

    • @RRRusan
      @RRRusan Před 3 měsíci

      @@nawtursav11or gotta be more to it tho

    • @spidamitchell8311
      @spidamitchell8311 Před 3 měsíci

      He’s been solid on the magic but yea it’s wierd

    • @el1tefire252
      @el1tefire252 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@RRRusan no that pretty much all there is to it, it physically disabled him to shoot the way he always had, tried to reconstruct his jumpshot coming into the league because of it, and coming into the league as a guard is already a big process, combine that with your greatest strength stripped from you.

  • @kapowjam3462
    @kapowjam3462 Před 3 měsíci +26

    Jazz really making sure to show up in the 2017 draft will Mitchell, Markkanen, and Collins.

    • @spidamitchell8311
      @spidamitchell8311 Před 3 měsíci

      Factz
      Spida was a player I liked as a rookie and thought he’d be pretty good and he’s been amazing
      Top 3 player from this class

  • @baconbuddy6207
    @baconbuddy6207 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Man, all these post no.10 picks growth have just shown how superior the training systems surrounding the NBA have been. The players all looked raw and got obvious holes in their skill sets but with time and enough confidence drilled into them they became the stars that they are now.

  • @dakedokyoumojojoni
    @dakedokyoumojojoni Před 3 měsíci +2

    23:45 why is bro staring at me like that 😂😂

  • @Alex_Off-Beat
    @Alex_Off-Beat Před 3 měsíci +7

    Romeo Langford was eventually used to trade for Derrick White so that extra pick they got from trading down did have some value for the Celtics.

    • @spidamitchell8311
      @spidamitchell8311 Před 3 měsíci

      Dunno why the Spurs traded white

    • @Alex_Off-Beat
      @Alex_Off-Beat Před 3 měsíci +4

      @@spidamitchell8311 If they kept him they might not have been bad enough to draft Wemby...
      Plus they probably thought the 1st round pick they got would be way more valuable. Not even Pop could've predicted that the Celtics would go from under .500 to making the finals in three months!

    • @tj5180
      @tj5180 Před 3 měsíci

      @@spidamitchell8311mostly because they had expections which he didn’t live up to according to them where they expected white to be a 2nd option next to Dejounte Murray.

    • @tj5180
      @tj5180 Před 3 měsíci

      @@Alex_Off-Beatone of the big lob-sided trades of this decade lol.

    • @nicholaseaster58
      @nicholaseaster58 Před 2 měsíci

      @@tj5180yet White has become a better player than DJ 😂

  • @RS00010
    @RS00010 Před 3 měsíci +6

    What a deep draft

  • @cheap272
    @cheap272 Před 3 měsíci +13

    now we need the what happened to the 1996 1983 classes

  • @Ho_Lii_Fuk
    @Ho_Lii_Fuk Před 2 měsíci +3

    It's actually funny how people were questioning if Markkanen is athletic enough and now he has posterized half the league lol

    • @lexusenthusiast6414
      @lexusenthusiast6414 Před 2 měsíci

      There's more to athleticism than simply jumping high/dunking. Agility, coordination and acceleration for example

  • @AndrewLink-wb3de
    @AndrewLink-wb3de Před 2 měsíci

    Why do you blur out the scoreboard, also great work on the videos keep it up.

  • @bnsz8704
    @bnsz8704 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Name a better pairing than 76ers and players too injured to show their massive potential

  • @Tatsuspam
    @Tatsuspam Před 3 měsíci +7

    I never understood why Knicks allowed Phil to pick frank just to fire him later that summer

    • @Odysseus1999
      @Odysseus1999 Před 3 měsíci

      Because Jim Dolan is an idiot. Clearly these days someone makes better choices for him

  • @tsoflakes8727
    @tsoflakes8727 Před 3 měsíci

    JI and Fultz are 2 of the biggest what ifs for me

  • @YodaSmokes
    @YodaSmokes Před 3 měsíci +5

    Does bro not know Zach Collins has also redeemed himself and turned himself into a legit NBA player the last 2 years for the spurs?

    • @ilovewithcaution
      @ilovewithcaution Před 3 měsíci +1

      He was legit last year…. Has been pretty awful this season (coming from a Spurs fan)

    • @darthwalrus1327
      @darthwalrus1327 Před 17 dny

      Maybe a year ago, but rn he kinda sucks

  • @robertmcnally2220
    @robertmcnally2220 Před 3 měsíci

    As a magic fan . Isaac is one of my favorite players on the magic

  • @CR71987
    @CR71987 Před 3 měsíci +3

    I remember when they said Ben Simmons is better than Tatum lol 🤣🤣

  • @IHadToMakeThisAccount
    @IHadToMakeThisAccount Před 3 měsíci +1

    You always have takes that normally align with mine, but its funny to see you like Lonzo, because I don't see the hype at all, and even at the time I thought he got drated too high.

    • @cyclopentadiol2923
      @cyclopentadiol2923 Před 2 měsíci

      Lonzo's dad just knew how to work Magic Johnsons...well Johnson.

  • @siriactuallysara
    @siriactuallysara Před 3 měsíci

    As a Knicks fan seeing that they had to trade for multiple players that were drafted after our draft bust.

  • @johnnydepp4866
    @johnnydepp4866 Před 3 měsíci +7

    What if the nuggets kept mitchell and gobert…
    PG: Murray
    SG: Mitchell
    SF: Gordon
    PF: Jokic
    C: Gobert
    Imagine how big of a dynasty this lineup would have produced

    • @spidamitchell8311
      @spidamitchell8311 Před 3 měsíci

      And homegrown overall

    • @alexescutia4805
      @alexescutia4805 Před 3 měsíci

      Couldn’t pay them all and Gordon wouldn’t be there

    • @tj5180
      @tj5180 Před 3 měsíci

      Highly unlikely Gordon is on the nuggets also him at the 3 would’ve been questionable fit considering jokic who could shoot but defensively teams would’ve used that against the nuggets and gobert being a non offensive threat who can’t shoot.

  • @Shortballa11
    @Shortballa11 Před 3 měsíci +6

    Honestly gonna go down as one of the best drafts ever

  • @torinklutterman3743
    @torinklutterman3743 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Why were you blurring score boards?

    • @justintelmo
      @justintelmo Před 3 měsíci +4

      I've seen a few NBA youtubers do this. a lot of the scoreboards have copyrighted images (for example the ESPN logo) so it might have to do with that

  • @davenalunat1433
    @davenalunat1433 Před 3 měsíci +1

    0:40 Lol No. 2018 playoffs was when the Celtics are 1 game away from reaching the NBA Finals when we met the Cavs in the Conf Finals not 2017.

    • @kaitsu1952
      @kaitsu1952 Před 2 měsíci

      Yeah in 2017 they were 3 games away from making it lol

  • @CHAN5THAO
    @CHAN5THAO Před 3 měsíci +1

    The Kings slander needs to end. My god.

  • @derricknichols5787
    @derricknichols5787 Před dnem

    Jackson & Brown would've been a tandem in the East

  • @moises9090
    @moises9090 Před 3 měsíci

    Why are the scores in the video blurred?

    • @tamro9701
      @tamro9701 Před 3 měsíci

      I think he is blurring watermarks

  • @thebestcentaur
    @thebestcentaur Před 3 měsíci

    I really hope Fox gets more than one All-Star berth

  • @ShadowUCK
    @ShadowUCK Před 3 měsíci

    we love Fox

  • @RayrayTMP
    @RayrayTMP Před 3 měsíci

    Ill always be upset with the Lakers during this timeline because in both the 16 and 17 drafts i preferred who the Celtics picked over who we picked. I liked Jaylen Brown over Ingram, and i loved Tatum over Ball. All great players outright but comparing their career accomplishments the better picks went elsewhere

    • @cyclopentadiol2923
      @cyclopentadiol2923 Před 2 měsíci

      Kobe felt the same way about the situation, he couldn't believe they saw more value in a kid who's dad wouldn't stfu over a guy who had the same work ethic and confidence as himself. RIP Kobe!

  • @pickles_mcgickle6583
    @pickles_mcgickle6583 Před 3 měsíci

    I get why the sixers took a guard cuz they needed one, but can u imagine if Tatum ended up with embiid

  • @deathmaker909
    @deathmaker909 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Sorry but the 76ers are not prestigious, they are almost the exact opposite as on display in this video

    • @antcantcook960
      @antcantcook960 Před 12 dny

      yeah they only have 3 iconic players in their history😂.

  • @user-ok9ue8gp6k
    @user-ok9ue8gp6k Před 3 měsíci

    Lakers were looking for the next Magic Johnson when they could have had the next Tatum.

  • @ThatOneGuy8305
    @ThatOneGuy8305 Před 2 měsíci

    The Suns picked behind the Celtics twice in a row. The Celtics got Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum and the Suns got Dragan Bender and Josh Jackson. Draft position matters.

  • @calebbaccus791
    @calebbaccus791 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Actually the Celtics in 2017 were not one win away from the finals they were three wins away

  • @isaiahwirch9389
    @isaiahwirch9389 Před 3 měsíci

    I rlly thought frank would be a great defensive starting guard in this league still wish he was a dub

  • @kylec.8350
    @kylec.8350 Před 5 dny

    Celtics dodged a bullet not taking josh jackson.

  • @notbamdyn4177
    @notbamdyn4177 Před 2 měsíci

    Lonzo Ball is probably one of the biggest what ifs in NBA history. Steph curry with a 40 inch vertical. He had some serious GOAT potential but now all the injuries have kinda derailed that

  • @shis0
    @shis0 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I was so pressed when Vlade took mf Justin Jackson over OG Anunoby 🤦🏽‍♂️
    Still got Fox so i can’t be too mad lmao

    • @Keedz
      @Keedz Před 2 měsíci +1

      Ngl j Jackson looked intrueging when he first came into the league, looking back now it was a terrible pick though 🤣

    • @shis0
      @shis0 Před 2 měsíci

      @@Keedz yeah i still had some hope that it would work out w/ jjax but that hope faded away real quick 😂

  • @cheap272
    @cheap272 Před 3 měsíci

    am i tripping or did he say the celtics was 1 game away from the 2017 finals then drafted tatum in 2018, feel like i rememeber seein a tatum dunk on lbj in playoffs

    • @alexescutia4805
      @alexescutia4805 Před 3 měsíci

      That was tatums rookie year

    • @kaitsu1952
      @kaitsu1952 Před 2 měsíci

      In 2017 they lost 4-1 to the cavs in ECF with Isaiah Thomas leading them, then brought in Hayward in free agency and traded IT for Kyrie. Next year in 2018 rookie Tatum and co. lost to the cavs in 7 in the ECF again, while Kyrie and Hayward were both injured. That's where Tatum also dunked on Bron so you're correct.

  • @NickMachado
    @NickMachado Před 3 měsíci

    Imagine drafting markelle fultz and lonzo ball before jayson tatum lmfaooo

  • @idani2186
    @idani2186 Před 19 dny

    2019 plz

  • @Toucan_Sam3319
    @Toucan_Sam3319 Před 15 dny

    lmao why did you blur the score in the beginning like it was a damn sex scene will you get sued if you show the score or something? XD

  • @xaviernelson9656
    @xaviernelson9656 Před 2 měsíci

    Anyone else remember when all the lakers fans claimed kuzma was better than Tatum

  • @chrisschaeffer9661
    @chrisschaeffer9661 Před měsícem

    2000 and 2002 WCFs were RIGGED for Shaq and Kobe

  • @homiemael4489
    @homiemael4489 Před 3 měsíci

    Markell Fultz isn’t a bust

  • @ajjeffries4152
    @ajjeffries4152 Před 3 měsíci

    Waking up to a sporting logically video is a great feeling

  • @EnemyDestroyerNumber1
    @EnemyDestroyerNumber1 Před 10 dny

    its not a KD warriors.
    Its Curry Warriors with KD.
    KD just got carried by the warriors.

  • @loganmattoon5284
    @loganmattoon5284 Před 2 měsíci

    Calling both Lonzo and Jarrett Allen "starters" is extremely disrespectful

    • @Tateygb
      @Tateygb Před 2 měsíci

      Well what is Lonzo then lol

  • @kaelren4120
    @kaelren4120 Před 3 měsíci

    Who tf is bam adesina 🤣 bruh pls edot the time stamps

  • @mikeybarboza3086
    @mikeybarboza3086 Před 3 měsíci

    Celtics played the 76ers lol

  • @yungsemomusic
    @yungsemomusic Před 3 měsíci

    If Markelle a bust so is lonzo

  • @sinigang4532
    @sinigang4532 Před 2 měsíci

    Fultz Injuries🥲

  • @thefabulousmula
    @thefabulousmula Před 2 měsíci +1

    many of the successes in this class are using PEDs

  • @user-vu2xd1fi3u
    @user-vu2xd1fi3u Před měsícem

    All sorry dudes

  • @nicholaseaster58
    @nicholaseaster58 Před 2 měsíci

    Fultz is a scrub 😂

  • @muhammadjassim9492
    @muhammadjassim9492 Před 2 měsíci

    Dennis Smith Jr. had a potential if he wasn't arrogant and jealous to Luka. Cry cry little guy.

  • @bnsz8704
    @bnsz8704 Před 3 měsíci

    Hearing that Fultz was so much more wanted than Tatum is hilarious

  • @TherealIketurner
    @TherealIketurner Před 3 měsíci

    #bbn

  • @nelsonbecina9283
    @nelsonbecina9283 Před 2 měsíci

    .

  • @MusabAli-vn9rn
    @MusabAli-vn9rn Před 3 měsíci

    First

  • @shipwreckedpoet3
    @shipwreckedpoet3 Před 3 měsíci

    My advice. Slow Down!. If you make a 30 minute video instead of 20 it is no big deal.

  • @Max-ve5tu
    @Max-ve5tu Před 3 měsíci

    Drafting well isn't all that important when you consider that 3 out of the first 4 teams have gone to the NBA Finals after this.

    • @Shortballa11
      @Shortballa11 Před 3 měsíci +6

      Drafting well is probably the most important thing you can do as a team. All the dynasties drafter their core or at the least their star. There is absolutely nothing more important than drafting well

    • @lpmoora
      @lpmoora Před 3 měsíci +2

      Disagree wholeheartedly, see Sacramento Kings in the 2010’s

  • @mykejae3493
    @mykejae3493 Před 3 měsíci

    Idk Jackson is not a bust he was solid like Fultz

  • @chrisschaeffer9661
    @chrisschaeffer9661 Před měsícem

    Jason Tatum is very Overrated!! His problem is hes Allergic to Game 7s. His only idea for a Comeback is to Chuck Up 3s!!! Thats ALL HE HAD!!!!

  • @CR71987
    @CR71987 Před 3 měsíci

    76ers is a bad organization

  • @robertmcnally2220
    @robertmcnally2220 Před 3 měsíci

    Simmons is trash n a bust

  • @jonathanortiz4017
    @jonathanortiz4017 Před 3 měsíci

    Nah, lonzo the best player in this draft. Bummer that he’s been poised w injuries tho