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    Tier list explaining the Fun Factor for me personally for each faction in Immortal Empires for Total War: Warhammer 3
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  • @LegendofTotalWar
    @LegendofTotalWar  Před 6 měsíci +176

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  • @LegendofTotalWar
    @LegendofTotalWar  Před 6 měsíci +612

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    • @C.redbeaulieu
      @C.redbeaulieu Před 6 měsíci +35

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    • @user-kb1su7mg1g
      @user-kb1su7mg1g Před 6 měsíci +6

      what@@C.redbeaulieu

    • @user-me7iw6ft8z
      @user-me7iw6ft8z Před 6 měsíci +11

      When you were talking about Drycha you said i put her under C tier but you put her under B

    • @cringelord1395
      @cringelord1395 Před 6 měsíci +7

      Hey Legend, since you’re covering more historical titles recently, I wonder if it would be possible to make tier lists for those titles too? Things like evaluating starting positions, army rosters, available buildings etc.

    • @MobileLegendsTankTank
      @MobileLegendsTankTank Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@cringelord1395 ita not viable for the channel

  • @maestromarat6195
    @maestromarat6195 Před 6 měsíci +560

    deceivers need to have a random cult revealed whenever an army is defeated in battle to simulate the lord being interrogated. I think that'd make the campaign feel very high risk very high reward because your armies are in theory invincible, but if they get caught out you'll basically lose an entire settlement.

    • @bitternarwhal5126
      @bitternarwhal5126 Před 6 měsíci +31

      100% agree

    • @jamiefenwick8359
      @jamiefenwick8359 Před 6 měsíci +36

      This is a good idea but I don't think it is nearly enough. Your armies are almost always invisible and you pretty much choose all the battles you want to fight. How many battles are you really going to be loosing? I have only played one changeling campaign but I was at no point ever close to loosing even a single battle. Even if you mega fuck up and do loose a battle its only one settlement that is not a big deal at all to the changeling.

    • @BloodwyrmWildheart
      @BloodwyrmWildheart Před 6 měsíci

      @@jamiefenwick8359 Still better than nothing.

    • @ukee31
      @ukee31 Před 6 měsíci

      Good idea bro

    • @MrFildur
      @MrFildur Před 6 měsíci +3

      This is a really good suggestion. But imho need be way more risky/hard than this. As soon you have 2 armies or at latest like turn 15... Let ai get chanse reveal and nuke settlements. and as ai gets stronger have bigger chanse reveal. So you should know that any setltlement will sooner or later get caught. Or something.

  • @SeptikAvenger
    @SeptikAvenger Před 6 měsíci +606

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  • @polishlinks
    @polishlinks Před 6 měsíci +223

    For all the problems with WH3, it's worth crediting them for creating a lot more parity and decent factions/unit types in the game.

    • @SanguineYoru
      @SanguineYoru Před měsícem +1

      Just curious, what are the problems with WH3? I played WH2 casually and now play WH3 almost every day. I’m not a big total war guy so could you tell me what went wrong?

    • @polishlinks
      @polishlinks Před měsícem +8

      @@SanguineYoru Many of the issues have been resolved over time. Super passive AI on hard difficulties that wouldn't ever engage, 80% of your battles were minor settlement fights, and various bugs that made some units underperform or be straight up unrecruitable (just a few things off the top of my head). The game is in a much better place now, so it's a good time to pick it up.
      There are still some persistent issues, such as small and uninteresting maps (and weird unnatural forest blobs). Overall it's improved a lot since Immortal Empires first came out.

    • @giokun100
      @giokun100 Před 25 dny +1

      @@polishlinks Super passive AI and minor settlement fights have not been fixed whatsoever. Unless you are referring at mods.

    • @eddie1993
      @eddie1993 Před 8 dny

      ​@@giokun100largely i dont have a problem with passive AI, except against dwarves

  • @xyro3633
    @xyro3633 Před 6 měsíci +109

    "The High Elves in Warhammer 2 were arguable one of my favorites."
    ...
    "Wait, they definitely were one of my favorites, who am I arguing with?" Lmao

  • @baldur4ever
    @baldur4ever Před 6 měsíci +83

    Clan Angrund is now actually pretty dang fun now that they fixed his Eight Peaks reward. He is also fairly strong if you can take out the Skaven, Vampires and Beastmen to your West right from the start, because afterwards he'll have a very safe and rich position. Which is unlike the rest of the dwarves who are constantly surrounded by enemies.

    • @lemurking6896
      @lemurking6896 Před 6 měsíci +5

      What did they do to the reward?

    • @flintalex5407
      @flintalex5407 Před 6 měsíci +3

      His bonuses to global recruitment always felt good to me. It really enables him to play like the more aggressive and expansive type lord for the dwarves that he is meant to be.

    • @jamesconnor5923
      @jamesconnor5923 Před 4 měsíci

      How do you enjoy this game ?

  • @joelalsum9695
    @joelalsum9695 Před 6 měsíci +46

    I personally think Yvresse is S-tier fun-wise. The mistwalkers in Eltharion’s army are just incredibly strong and tactically fun to play with. Plus, Eltharion decked out with speed items and skills and banners just streaks around the battlefield on Stormwing. I’ve hit 250 speed with a few dynamo (5 charge bonus and 10% speed for lord’s army) nobles in the army.

  • @ericmerrill9808
    @ericmerrill9808 Před 6 měsíci +135

    Here’s an idea for a challenge: Eat the World. You and another play play as Taurox and Skarbrand. Whoever has destroyed the most armies and settlements after 100 turns win!

    • @bigdaddysus8638
      @bigdaddysus8638 Před 6 měsíci +9

      cute but would be insanely boring for him and the player imo

    • @MrBlueSleeves
      @MrBlueSleeves Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@bigdaddysus8638 I disagree. They could establish rules beforehand and layout a strategy. In the end they present their strategies in a video and share insight into the factions. and reflect on it.

    • @bigdaddysus8638
      @bigdaddysus8638 Před 6 měsíci +10

      @@MrBlueSleeves would be a lot of battles they would have to fight manually which is a lot of downtime for the other player but i suppose it could be possible if they establish like they have to fight each other every battle or some shit? i dont know i dont see it really

    • @jmgpsicopatico
      @jmgpsicopatico Před 6 měsíci

      Isnt khorne in advantage due to the "Blood for the Blood god" option which is a free army?

    • @MrBlueSleeves
      @MrBlueSleeves Před 6 měsíci

      @@bigdaddysus8638 the campaign is gonna take a long time either way, so not sure what's your point? Could also establish a time limit if you don,t want as much manual fights

  • @jasonquigley2633
    @jasonquigley2633 Před 6 měsíci +79

    I personally put Ice court on S tier. A lot of people complain about it being a hard startpos, with attacks from all sides. This is why it's fun, the campaign forces you to make tough decisions, and the difficulty, while steep, is perfectly manageable if you know what you're doing. It also makes for an interestingly different campaign, where you spend a lot of it not painting the map, but instead trying to consolidate your home area. I probably played the Ice court more then any other warhammer 3 faction.

    • @geoffreystevens2916
      @geoffreystevens2916 Před 6 měsíci +5

      yeah same. I was actually suprised how much i loved it. The last human shield of the north, trying to unite the homeland while battling the forces of evil. Plus I really like kossiers as starting units, and then the build up to their end units. Just fun from start to end.

    • @007whiterussian2
      @007whiterussian2 Před 6 měsíci +2

      same i really love playing Ice Court def my most played as well in wh3. Although i wish their base mechanics had a bit more oomph to them like kos having trainable patriarchs or something. they are like 80% of the way there i just wish the last dlc gave them some updates to really solidify them. none the less love the challenge of kislev

    • @julioramos1544
      @julioramos1544 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Its annoying to play any faction that is surrounded on all ends by enemies, you take out one, the rest dog pile lol. I like playing them at a different start pos tho

    • @ethanwilliams1880
      @ethanwilliams1880 Před 6 měsíci

      @@geoffreystevens2916 My number 1 favorite campaign in wh3. I've played it at least 15-20 times, and now we are talking about it, I think I might go play another. I just love the major provinces (especially Praag), and all the landmarks you can build, atdans you can appoint, the empire building for Katarin just feels so good. Meanwhile I played Kostaltyn exactly once, it's just a pale shadow of the same.

    • @PigreKo
      @PigreKo Před 6 měsíci +1

      Very fun campaign, but the mechanics are a bit less interesting than they could be. This is a clear case of an extremely interesting position, challenging and with fascinating roleplaying possibilities + amazing units, and amazing settlements. But it lacks that additional layer of depth, as their proprietary mechanics are generic, and their antagonism is very limited once chaos is dealt with, meaning that at some point it seems you are going to make enemies with people just for the sake of it (which spoils the aforementioned great roleplaying you could infuse in the campaign).

  • @daddypudding9074
    @daddypudding9074 Před 6 měsíci +21

    I kinda feel Daniel could do with an actual research tree as well as his current stuff.
    Sure HE’S strong, but his armies, although varied, don’t get amazingly buffed.
    One of my favourite things is researching stat upgrades for units, and I feel even a small research tree would add that fun option beyond the dedication buffs.
    Not to mention researching upgrading army abilities. Seriously, the Khorne one hurts more than helps, and mid/late game with the Slaanesh buff let’s you seduce with a 1300 budget.
    A proper tech tree would really help the faction I think tbh, warriors of chaos get a mixed one when undivided, why not undivided daemons?

  • @007whiterussian2
    @007whiterussian2 Před 6 měsíci +20

    i had fun with teclis recently where i basically took out kairos, then booked it to the eastern colonies and took over that, from there i basically used sea lanes to travel to cathay, lustria, and ulthuan and captured islands and such from chaos/undead enemies. it was pretty fun sailing around and helping order (which is teclis' entire thing) i wish he had some mechanic that played into that to help him get around easier. also his climate suitability is sooo bad, i wish he at least had temperate habitability. I was in no way very strong but had millitary alliances with everyone and took out their threats for them so the order tide was op.

    • @botep5529
      @botep5529 Před 2 měsíci

      With teclis i always have no idea what to do after taking out kairso. Youre usually buddies with the lizardmen to the north of you, so yeah it would be cool if you could teavel the map kinda like oxy, maybe a mechanic where you can get summoned to reinforce another order faction. It would be so badass showing up next to franz and help him deal with vlad for a battle.

  • @krzysztofnosal4956
    @krzysztofnosal4956 Před 6 měsíci +74

    Khalida has the best climate suitability.Get suitable mountain just like Khatep and gets both jungle and savanah. Probably the best option for world conquest

    • @dustrockblues7567
      @dustrockblues7567 Před 6 měsíci +6

      Every climate is suitable for Oxyotl.

    • @krzysztofnosal4956
      @krzysztofnosal4956 Před 6 měsíci +15

      @@dustrockblues7567 I ment the best out of all Tomb Kings. Wood Elves, Chaos warriors, Chaos Dwarfs and Norsca also don't have a problem with climate.

    • @RRRRRRRRR33
      @RRRRRRRRR33 Před 6 měsíci +9

      I think she is the lamest of the TK simply because she is not as interesting if compared to the other TK lords, it's a presentation thing. If, however, Khalida was "neighbored" by Neferata instead (legit LL Neferata, fleshed out by CA), like the whole dynamic/rivalry between Elf Batman and Grom, now that would improve her campaign A LOT, would make Khatep the lamest

    • @willfrancescofini
      @willfrancescofini Před 6 měsíci

      great point. I knew it was something drawing me to her, more than any other TK lord

  • @andreigeorge328
    @andreigeorge328 Před 6 měsíci +206

    You have no idea how much these tierlists mean to me Legend. Even though i only play warhammer 2 right now while waiting for a sale for the third one. These videos still really help me be up to date for when i eventually try the third game one out. Sure while this one might be more subjective and less important than the other tier lists perhaps, fun is still a very important factor in a game in my opinion! Thank you for these videos!

    • @WFKGW
      @WFKGW Před 6 měsíci

      Go on cd keys I got it for like 18.99

    • @eshaan570
      @eshaan570 Před 6 měsíci +23

      Dont get wh3 until ur completely bored of wh2 trust me youll be disappointed

    • @alexbickers8388
      @alexbickers8388 Před 6 měsíci +4

      @@eshaan570 I just dont have much motivation to play it after about 3 campaigs. Its difficult to explain

    • @MDHDH-iy7nm
      @MDHDH-iy7nm Před 6 měsíci +8

      @@alexbickers8388 weird thing is, i feel the same, but i tried to go back to WH2... just cant do it

    • @IKBENEENPAARD
      @IKBENEENPAARD Před 6 měsíci

      Exact same situation for me!

  • @yuzuftazimo2157
    @yuzuftazimo2157 Před 6 měsíci +57

    legend is only sponsoring legit products that he know it's not bad and he genuinely like. Respect for not being paid to tell lies. No wonder he had a bad time with CA partnership lol

    • @josephr4761
      @josephr4761 Před 6 měsíci +11

      Brutal honesty is why CA blacklisted him. Honestly looks bad on their part. Can't have a partner that tells the truth or CA will actually have to put effort into their games to get a good review.

    • @tzeentch7118
      @tzeentch7118 Před 6 měsíci +7

      Never trust content creator when they advertise, no matter how much you like them.

    • @p1553d0f
      @p1553d0f Před 6 měsíci +1

      If a content creator ever says the “R” word, I immediately unsubscribe and block all their videos. So glad I haven’t needed to do that for Legend

    • @jackalope_hunter
      @jackalope_hunter Před 28 dny

      @@tzeentch7118 um, what?

    • @giokun100
      @giokun100 Před 25 dny

      @@jackalope_hunter never trust the words of someone who reads a script from a company with the purpose of extracting money from you. Be your own judge.

  • @Cr4t3rus
    @Cr4t3rus Před 6 měsíci +2

    Love your tier-list videos Legend! This is where you truly shine!

  • @ironsilk6634
    @ironsilk6634 Před 6 měsíci +1

    You make some excellent points in this video. You're absolutely right about Teclis's start position and the WHII races in WHIII.

  • @michaelbeasley9401
    @michaelbeasley9401 Před 6 měsíci +29

    Didn’t expect Vampire Coast to make it to A tier. One of my favorites is Noctilus. I play with the IE expanded mod so there are more oceanic and island territories to take.

    • @Neockoen
      @Neockoen Před 6 měsíci +6

      Vampire Coast with Noctilus is still a top 3 campaign for me. A vortex campaign that is actually fun and such a unique playstyle in comparison to other factions. Burn the coastline!

  • @karosthephilosopher1512
    @karosthephilosopher1512 Před 6 měsíci +12

    NOW THIS IS THE TIER LIST I WAS WAITING FOR

  • @ChimaeraTom
    @ChimaeraTom Před 6 měsíci +1

    This is amazing, i was gonna ask on a recent livestream who were your "most fun factions" rather than a strength ranking but i didnt feel right with everything thats been happing, lo-and-behold here is a better answer than i could have hoped for!

  • @inductivegrunt94
    @inductivegrunt94 Před 6 měsíci +60

    Khorne and the Skaven DLC trio are right where they belong. They are just the best and funnest campaigns you can have to just derp around and have a good ol' time and win in the process.
    Love the tier list and this is probably your best list ever, and most important one too. Fun factor is more important than raw power. Though power can make things fun like in the case for Khorne, Taurox, the Skaven DLC trio, and Drazhoath.

    • @ethanwilliams1880
      @ethanwilliams1880 Před 6 měsíci +2

      For some reason I still can't get into skaven, they just don't do it for me. The rest I find pretty accurate to my sentiments, except for Karl Franz, which I unironically love in WH3, even though in WH2 he was near the bottom for me.

    • @TacoTomtheBomb
      @TacoTomtheBomb Před 6 měsíci +1

      Yes fun is the most important.

    • @tomashmore7413
      @tomashmore7413 Před 3 měsíci

      I thought that until I had an Ikit Claw doomstack. Just pure unadulterated fun.@@ethanwilliams1880

  • @SofaMuncher
    @SofaMuncher Před 6 měsíci +46

    Lokhir Fellhart is a very fun campaign! He's pretty good for migration campaigns, and can really conquest anyway he wants!

    • @Jono793
      @Jono793 Před 6 měsíci +12

      He does what he wants, 'cause a pirate is free. You are a pirate 😊 ☠️

  • @jaredlong6808
    @jaredlong6808 Před 6 měsíci +5

    I absolutely loved the first time i played Nagarythe and realized i had an ambush attack stance like the beastmen. Had me doing so many more battles just because the ambushes were so satisfying. Plus its just so anti elf up there with all the hostile factions surrounding him. My favorite tho is still eltharion simply because i like the double front scenario adding a challenge.

  • @PindusWrath
    @PindusWrath Před 5 měsíci +13

    I find Belegar's campaign the most challenging and fun out of all Dwarf lords. The struggle to retake back their home reminds me a lot of the LOTR Balin's expedition to Khazad Dum.
    Also, the Bugman Rangers are one of my favorite units in the game.

    • @giokun100
      @giokun100 Před 25 dny

      It reminds you because it's stolen idea. Even the name of the Dwarf is very similar to ''Belegost'' (Dwarven city in the First Age).

    • @cocoapebbles10
      @cocoapebbles10 Před 25 dny +3

      @@giokun100 All modern fantasy is "stolen" from Tolkien. He's the father of the genre as we know it.

    • @giokun100
      @giokun100 Před 25 dny +1

      @@cocoapebbles10 Inspiration and lazy copying can be miles apart.

  • @harryfuller3881
    @harryfuller3881 Před 6 měsíci +4

    It is refreshing to have a video from you that is about gameplay, and comments about gameplay. You taught me so much about the game over the years and I really appreciate these types of videos.

  • @fyiicheckforspies
    @fyiicheckforspies Před 6 měsíci

    I've been catching up on your livestreams so I totally understand where this tier list is coming from lol it's pretty amazing how every stream you have people asking you to play certain factions or LLs and you have to keep explaining why you don't want to play them

  • @tarun2449
    @tarun2449 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Love the tier lists. So fun to watch or even listen to.

  • @csimmeri
    @csimmeri Před 6 měsíci

    Idk how your tier lists actually perform statistically speaking but they are my favorite types of videos you make honestly

  • @a.t.r.societymember1685
    @a.t.r.societymember1685 Před 6 měsíci

    Thanks for another great tier list! I have owned WHIII since release but hadn’t gotten a good chance to start up a IE campaign until this week. I went with Karl and… phew! It is a rough start! After this vid I might switch to a Tryion campaign as a warm up first!

  • @CmdrTyrael
    @CmdrTyrael Před 6 měsíci +1

    I just finished a demon Prince campaign focussed to tzeentch, with the master of fates outfit. It was a difficult but engaging campaign. You had to really plan your campaigns ahead. And prepare the correct armies for who you face.
    The sheer amount of units gave me option paralysis 🤣

  • @Omega068
    @Omega068 Před 6 měsíci

    Thanks! I haven't given some of the higher tier ones a try in WH3 yet so I'll use those as a recommendation.

  • @arcadius2569
    @arcadius2569 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Well, your enormous trove of experience with the game definitely adds weight to your list. I absolutely agree that the starting location and enemies really makes a huge difference. You want to have to make some critical decisions about who you expose yourself to without feeling backed against the wall (unless it suits the faction and playstyle).
    Kha "infinite missile" lida is a boss. "You find out stuff about yourself I guess" xD. Absolutely! To find that the dark elves are my favourite faction was a shock.

  • @robdavis3670
    @robdavis3670 Před 6 měsíci

    I liked before even watching. Been looking forward to this for so long!

  • @gnoomgus861
    @gnoomgus861 Před 6 měsíci +6

    I find Dark Elves much more enjoyable after latest tweaks to their slaves mechanics, public order is not such an issue anymore (at least on very hard) and rushing buildings is pretty fun and addictive mechanic, i miss it when playing as other races now.

  • @donkey9113
    @donkey9113 Před 6 měsíci +3

    The warriors of chaos dlc has really done some great work for the chaos factions it is by far my favorite dlc of all dlc from the whole triology

  • @wmcneill26
    @wmcneill26 Před 6 měsíci

    Nice to see a tier list based on fun! I thought about doing this for a while but I'm not a streamer, lol.

  • @younesbarakat1395
    @younesbarakat1395 Před 6 měsíci

    Perfect, i was wondering what i should try next

  • @PindusWrath
    @PindusWrath Před 6 měsíci +45

    I really enjoy your tier list videos! It might not be your cup of tea but it would be interesting to see some tier lists from previous games like Rome 2 and Attila

    • @alexs_toy_barn
      @alexs_toy_barn Před 6 měsíci

      He has a tier list where he ranks all the tw games both at launch and at the time, one of his most famous tier lists after he started during wh2

    • @esmepryde6490
      @esmepryde6490 Před 6 měsíci

      I normally enjoy them to but this one is purely subjective.

  • @ZaphielSahaquielSariel
    @ZaphielSahaquielSariel Před 6 měsíci

    Awesome, just what I needed! Thanks and keep it up :D

  • @BamaLam4
    @BamaLam4 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Ngl mate and idk why but ever since you started making tier lists years ago I get more excited about them then any other video on CZcams and I'm subbed to like 200 people
    Side note, any chance of a medivil 2 tier list? :D

  • @barefootcentipede9953
    @barefootcentipede9953 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I admit I am an unredeemable Empire player (Karl, Volkmar, Balt and Wulf in that order) but also the SFO and Mixus, South Realms and Marienburg Mods. Wood and High Helves are coming second. I had a lot of fun with characters like Oxyotl and Yuan Bo. Finally I had a blast of a time playing the Mods for “Vampire” : Nagash and Blood Dragons

  • @omidhh9982
    @omidhh9982 Před 6 měsíci

    The ultimate tierlist is here atlast love you man

  • @CrazyIvanTR
    @CrazyIvanTR Před 6 měsíci

    Well, here's something unexpected for you. I completely agree with this list at this stage of the game. Thanks for the video!

  • @fearlesshawk92
    @fearlesshawk92 Před 6 měsíci +1

    This is the tier list I've been waiting for! I have so little time to play, so when I do. I prefer it be fun. I get everyone's taste is a little different but this is a great baseline.

  • @ximbabwe0228
    @ximbabwe0228 Před 6 měsíci +6

    Belegar is so fun!! Lead your people across the desert like stunty moses. Also drycha is the most fun... smoke doobies and heal the forest with an OP army

  • @Morgenseier
    @Morgenseier Před 6 měsíci

    FUN-tastic Tier List. Very Powerful! Go Legend

  • @toxicmongerofthehatefulbro5745
    @toxicmongerofthehatefulbro5745 Před 6 měsíci +5

    Love playing Nakai the Wanderer, Love just making blessed armies and letting them rampage.

  • @walkswithwhiskey
    @walkswithwhiskey Před 6 měsíci +1

    It's a good morning, another teir list!

  • @Broadside388
    @Broadside388 Před 6 měsíci

    Nice video thanks!
    Would be nice to get a chart showing all of the different play styles for the factions/lords. As a new playing it’s very overwhelming looking at a huge list of lords that you don’t know much about!
    E.g. If I wanted to play a ranged army, which lords/ladies would you advise? Same goes for all different play styles I guess.
    I’m wanting to find a Caster that can summon creatures to fight for me, whether ability of item based summons would be nice.
    Many thanks. :)

  • @juliendrainville7131
    @juliendrainville7131 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Without having actually played it, I figured The Deceivers would be a great faction for co-op. You don't take any settlements away from your ally/allies and even improve them with symbiotic buildings. Additionally, since you can teleport anywhere in the world with Rifts and don't need to really defend anything, you can go support your ally directly no matter their starting location. But yeah, they're less fun solo if you want a true challenge.

  • @slimthug166
    @slimthug166 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Honestly it really changes with how many hours you put in to total war games. After a few thousand hours between the historical and fantasy games my taste for what interests me has changed quite a lot. Found myself really liking Isabella and stacking vampires in one strong overly condensed army; or having Blathasar flying around raining doom as one tactical piece to overcome the odds. Khorne is up there because 3 armies vs 20 and still winning due to micro managing mayhem is just dope as well. A lot of the other factions just fall very flat unfortunately after so many hours in to the same franchise.

  • @ryantaylorson7538
    @ryantaylorson7538 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I like Daniel, having access to all the chaos units is great but there's just so much going on with the "dress up" it just gets overwhelming and I wish I could get into it but I can't

  • @Choisaikendo
    @Choisaikendo Před 6 měsíci +3

    Loved this Tier List! It's great that you go into what's your opinion. Could you maybe also do one on e.g. visuals (what is the coolest looking faction/spell), music (which faction has the best soundtrack/battle music) et cetera.

  • @Watts_uk
    @Watts_uk Před 6 měsíci +1

    Really enjoyed this, makes me want to jump into a new campaign. Its a fun tier list because its totally subjective but gives me some suggestions to play different factions within a race. Having 100% Warhammer 2 with very hard campaign and hard battles I want to try and do the same with 3 over time, so ill defiantly try some of the higher rated campaigns I haven't played yet. Was a bit disappointed with the chaos dwarf campaign, the heroes were great but didn't like the cap mechanics and how long it took to get higher units. Maybe i'm playing Lizard boys wrong because I really didnt enjoy the campaign i did in Warhammer 2, maybe I need to give them another go.

  • @tahahadada1936
    @tahahadada1936 Před 5 měsíci

    I loved the way presented the sponser first time watching a sponsored section 9f a video twice.

  • @kopfnussklopfer8679
    @kopfnussklopfer8679 Před 6 měsíci

    Thats the tier list i was waiting for, fun is the most important thing for a game.

  • @topwaifu2104
    @topwaifu2104 Před 6 měsíci

    The only tier list I needed

  • @Kasaaz
    @Kasaaz Před 6 měsíci

    As someone who has never played the Khorne campaign because I thought the exact things you did about how I would like them... I will have to give em a try.

  • @quwarq
    @quwarq Před 6 měsíci

    Order of Loremasters is higher than I expected.
    Thanks for the video!

  • @fallenhero4550
    @fallenhero4550 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I really do enjoy playing as Archaon, his faction effects make you feel like a proper Everchosen uniting the Forces of Chaos to bring the End Times.

  • @arreat1993
    @arreat1993 Před 6 měsíci

    For the most part I agree with this tier list of yours Legend,

  • @TheRxNick
    @TheRxNick Před 6 měsíci

    Love the content lately ♥️♥️♥️

  • @shanethesmith443
    @shanethesmith443 Před 6 měsíci +1

    For me the entire southern half of the map (except Oxyotl) is a tier lower than it otherwise would be, simply because anyone on that half of the map will have to contend with Kairos' inevitable empire, but Teclis definitely has it the hardest, so I agree with your assessment there. Oxyotl gets a pass because the land is useable for him and gets to fight Kairos early, while the Chameleon stalkers still counter most of the Tzeentch units.

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  • @Tentacl
    @Tentacl Před 23 dny

    My S tier is shorter and I added one TODAY because I didn't play with this faction before: Dazhoath the Ashen. SO MUCH FUN! My other favorites are Ikkit Klaw, Taurox and Grom the Paunch.
    Each one completely unique and imho the 4 make for the top design CA achieved while also having MANY cool units to watch destroying others in bloody combat.

  • @MsTalons
    @MsTalons Před 6 měsíci +11

    Yes, more tier lists!

  • @taylorpayne1993
    @taylorpayne1993 Před 5 měsíci

    Love the tier lists

  • @roflshield
    @roflshield Před 6 měsíci

    hmm never really thought about a full reckoning of my favorites but Tyrion, Snikch, Ikit, Malus, and Archaon are pretty easily my favs, Warriors of chaos was my fav in wh2 honestly because i was terrible at dealing with territory, and their rework in tw3 was perfect for them evolving to fit my skill at the game

  • @rogergraf1634
    @rogergraf1634 Před 6 měsíci

    Damn, i didn't thought we had so much in common. Our prefrences are pretty the same. With two exeptions, i like Cylostra and Kalida a lot. The Kav based Army of Kalida is so much fun.

  • @gunnerjensen5998
    @gunnerjensen5998 Před 6 měsíci +3

    I can understand the disappointment with Nurgle but I did find it funny that it's actually my 2nd or 3rd favorite faction. I think part of it is the lore but also I really enjoy the healing and Chosen of Nurgle. That combination is a grind to get to but so rewarding. Madam Cylostra is actually my favorite Lord to play as with a fun faction and great lore of magic.

    • @d.r.643
      @d.r.643 Před 6 měsíci +3

      Nurgle may be my favorite campaign in wh3, i just love the epidemics mechanics and the units just work for me. Yes they are slow, blobby, grindy and only work because the AI is dumb. But they are just so happy to be there.

  • @discipleofdagon8195
    @discipleofdagon8195 Před 6 měsíci

    I love making an army of goblins with Skarsnik. Being able to make the night goblins the elite little insane fellas they are is fun. Also squig hoppers

  • @Richcoph
    @Richcoph Před 6 měsíci +2

    Hey Legend, do you have any plans to re-visit some of the older, less in-depth campaign reviews that you did? I.e some of the first ones are roughly 3-4 min long whilst the later ones are 10+ min. I absolutely loved the series =)

  • @randomperson3160
    @randomperson3160 Před 6 měsíci

    If Cathay's OG lords had some defining mechanics added to them, they'd definitely be more played by me. I play almost exclusively with the SFO mod these days, so that's added some extra oomf to my playthroughs. Will say, though, confederating is huge for the enjoyability of a faction. My Counts game, I have Vlad and Kemmler. Wood Elves, I have Orion with the Sisters.
    Makes things far more enjoyable, since my LL armies tend to have all the best stuff.

  • @Ceralynde
    @Ceralynde Před 6 měsíci +1

    The nurgle case is on point. I can't agree more with you on that. Really, REALLY want to like him but I'd rather play Festus

  • @ilari90
    @ilari90 Před 6 měsíci

    17:50 after playing a legendary campaign with Wulfrik, I wished I would've taken Throgg, I didn't use mammoths at all when the trolls were faster to recruit and more reliable, and losing some of the group is not that bad as losing a single mammoth. Also for Wulfrik's quest to hunt down the monsters, I mistakenly took early on one that needed me to go half way the map to Southlands or World's Edge Mountains or something (might have been the arachnok spider one), and you can't change the mission after you choose it, that would be a necessary change for me on those quests to make them more manageable. Played 100 turns, conquered whole north part of the map, never going to southlands before I got bored of stomping stuff. Also, why make mammoths as your marauder spearmen and berserkers are powerhouses in the end game.

  • @GuiltyPleasures
    @GuiltyPleasures Před 4 měsíci

    My most recent empire campaign in WH3 went very smoothly. I completely changed my tactics around and just sat about restoring - constantly - my electors' territory. I refused to confederate anyone until I was CERTAIN I could defend that territory.
    I played the campaign very defensively. While I have several armies, they are mostly "defensive" in their composition, mostly spearmen and crossbowmen (b/c they can fire OVER the walls) with very little in terms of gunpowder or cavalry. They're really just meant to defend walled cities, and they're quite strong at that, especially when you add in a couple of mortars.
    I don't think my Imperial Authority has dipped negative once this entire campaign. Just have to be very picky about what to build and when, what to recruit and when, and when to engage (to keep losses low so foreign soil regen keeps you topped off). The last place you wanna be is helping an elector and your army sitting at around 25% manpower, because you'll die.
    Empire is ABSOLUTELY not geared to be played in the say was as something like Beastmen or Archaon.

  • @GoodMorningHikers
    @GoodMorningHikers Před měsícem

    my favorite campaigns so far were Archaon, pox makers (yes it's FUUUCKIN SLOW, totally get why its not everyone's cup of tea), followers of nagash, exiles of khorne, morathi, Grimgor, Malagor, and Miao Ying.
    archaon grimgor and skarbrand are EXCEPTIONALLY fun.
    Archaon and skarbrand for all the reasons you said.
    the start position for grimgor is why I love his more than the other GS factions, and why he HEAVILY surprised me in WH3. thematically being the leader of the escaped black orcs and ripping your old chaos dwarf masters apart is a fun start and then ravaging cathay by pouring out of the mountains with an 8 army WAAHH and destroying chaos factions to the north at the same time, burning the great bastion to rubble... good times. that campaign just kept on giving.

  • @Uhthis
    @Uhthis Před 6 měsíci

    Hey Legend, any idea of when we could get an Immortal Empires defeat trait tier list? There's so much to consider, and what with being able to save and load lords, seems like it's more possible than ever to create amazing one man doomstacks out of generic lords!

  • @TheSharingan32
    @TheSharingan32 Před 6 měsíci

    nice video, i love tier lists !

  • @Regnier575
    @Regnier575 Před 6 měsíci +4

    I love Nagarythes campaign in WH3. Ended up in wars from multiple directions which just kept me engaged. Really fun campaign.
    I enjoyed Malekith as I peaced out with the skaven after the first couple of battles then just b lined straight for Valkia and took her out early whilst the Dwarves were occupied, then helped the skaven kill the dwarves.

  • @Nightmare_52
    @Nightmare_52 Před 6 měsíci

    on the topic of imperial authority it can be utterly chaotic and rng how your campaign will go, tried to play gelt for the first time in wh3 after enjoying him a lot in wh2 and i got to turn 11 when 3 empire factions got destroyed at the same time, the entire empire declared war on me and i couldnt continue from there as my capital quickly got swarmed while my one army was trying its best to fight off the random orks from the south

  • @Mikkelsjensen1
    @Mikkelsjensen1 Před 6 měsíci +4

    "Makes you feel like a khorne worshipper. Im not" yes yes all hail the horned rat

  • @flix1717
    @flix1717 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Interesting that you appreciate Belegars campaign so little. I think the task to retake the capital and struggle with the early economy debuff is amazing, strong opponents nearby makes this a real challenge and quite entertaining imo. Good video otherwise, I can agree with most of the other takes.

    • @glassberg5018
      @glassberg5018 Před 6 měsíci +1

      I can't speak for legend, but for me it is a case of only being fun once. It was great to have that struggle but I don't know if I would enjoy multiple campaigns of it.

    • @elzabethtatcher9570
      @elzabethtatcher9570 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Out of curiosity: do you usually leave the Vaults behind and come to Karak Eight Peaks with full strength early on, or do you actually keep the Vaults? In WH2 I struggled to keep the Vaults due to the goblin menace, so I took my armies across the badlands, which was quite fun. I don't feel the need to do that in WH3.

  • @Valsorayu
    @Valsorayu Před 6 měsíci

    Finally the only objective and totally correct tier list.

  • @loganwallace101
    @loganwallace101 Před 6 měsíci

    Pretty much agree on everything except for karl franz, although the empire mechanic does need a rework I love defending the elector counts from the many enemies in the old world

  • @Kandranos
    @Kandranos Před 6 měsíci

    YES, I LOVE TIER LISTS

  • @StillRimmo
    @StillRimmo Před 6 měsíci

    I wish you linked to some kind of final JPG of these results, so I can really study them up close. Thanks!

  • @4GOT10_1
    @4GOT10_1 Před 4 měsíci

    I actually really enjoyed Sartosa, up to a certain point. Cuz at the end of the day, the thing that sets your faction apart are still tier 1 units. While fairly strong, they cant put up a fight against higher tier stuff. So you'll have to replace them with higher tier infantry, at which point you're just a default Vampire coast lord without anything special aside from some cool fighting animations.

  • @heuclmeucl-heucl5351
    @heuclmeucl-heucl5351 Před 6 měsíci

    you know what i really like that content!

  • @Marmamartha
    @Marmamartha Před 6 měsíci

    I think Lybaras should be a capital settlement too. Khalida deserves more space/building slots specially if we get future vcounts in lahmia

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    @thaliatherasdotter9175 Před 6 měsíci

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  • @mildlyderanged
    @mildlyderanged Před 6 měsíci

    See, i still really enjoy and rate Karl Franzs campaign. Its a hard campaign with constant, varied enemies, seccesionist and possibly Marienburg to start, then Festus, then the von Carsteins, then Norsca and Archaon. With brief interludes for Orcs and Ogres.
    Playing the "good" emperor and reinstating all the electors so you can confederate them is a great roleplay challenge, you end up with lots of solid lords, with Runefangs. Definetly the best narrative campaign in the game.

  • @Zylos3
    @Zylos3 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I used to agree on Skarbrand but after playing him a few times he's just TOO EASY. Strength rank 1 by turn 3, level 50 LL by turn 20, is fantastic until you realize it also comes with the tedium of managing a -20K economy every turn and maneuvering 10 armies all over the place so early in the campaign. The amount of army management Khorne does on turn 10 is similar to any other faction at turn 100 which is about where I burn out from it.

  • @HOGTO1000
    @HOGTO1000 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Finally a truly unbiased objective tier list 🤣

  • @adamhadamcik385
    @adamhadamcik385 Před 6 měsíci

    I agree with almost everything but Dark Elves. Malekith is one of my favourite lords to play :D I'd switch I'm with Tyrion any day. Also, Boris Ursus is S tier for me. Yes, staying in the wastes is annoying but if you go south and make a stand there the campaign can be quite enjoyable. I completed his campaign multiple times and played even beyond long victory because I was having fun. I also really hope that Nurgle gets some love with the next update.

  • @Planewalker1999
    @Planewalker1999 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Do a video on your favorite mods :) this game has so much more to offer thanks to the community!
    You’ve got to try it out eventually, you’re missing out on so much more gameplay to spice up a game that can get stale after so many hours.

  • @florisvideler
    @florisvideler Před 6 měsíci

    I think i mostly agree, i have plqyed maybe a little less than half of these and most only in wh2 aswell so its hard to say vur for the factions i have played the most, nagarythe and carcasonne i agree with your rating, though i might put carcasonne in s tier with the upgrades to bretonnian hiegh tier cav

  • @robertmosley1188
    @robertmosley1188 Před 6 měsíci

    Interesting listen since I've only played like 10% of the factions. I quite liked Karl, but I've only played TW3. Think it was mainly the start position though, I completely ignored authority/confed/fealty

  • @stefanbajic4464
    @stefanbajic4464 Před 6 měsíci +10

    Always enjoy tier lists. How about a few for the OG games, like faction tier list for rome 1 or medieval 2?

  • @DioSatyaloka
    @DioSatyaloka Před 6 měsíci +1

    Babe wake up, Legend posted a tier list