Ellis Dividing Head Restoration

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  • čas přidán 9. 09. 2023
  • I need a dividing head for an upcoming project, so I found the crustiest looking one on Ebay and restored it. This is an old Ellis Dividing head, and it came out pretty nice if you ask me.
    I used Anchor Lube in this video and I'm excited they're now a supporter of the channel. Check out their product here:
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Komentáře • 160

  • @lumotroph
    @lumotroph Před 9 měsíci +7

    I love these “hang on…” moments 😂

  • @willisedkopic3553
    @willisedkopic3553 Před 24 dny +2

    I'm 68 years old and after watching you work, I now consider my life wasted. LOL. Great job.

    • @waxore1142
      @waxore1142 Před 17 dny

      its not as glamorous as it looks. Im sure with all the mistakes and in between scenes cut out you might reconsider.

    • @dumitrutocila5807
      @dumitrutocila5807 Před 8 dny

      Eu am 60 de ani și nu cred în ceea ce ai zis , sănătate și viața lungă

  • @danceswithaardvarks3284
    @danceswithaardvarks3284 Před 9 měsíci +10

    Thanks for showing that "warts and all" restoration. I am just on my 4th attempt at making something, so watching this after 3 fails made me feel better about myself. Also it made me realise how much work can go into restoring a dividing head. Good job.

    • @JeremyMakesThings
      @JeremyMakesThings  Před 9 měsíci +4

      Mistakes are part of the learning process. It’s only failing when you give up.

    • @JeremyMakesThings
      @JeremyMakesThings  Před 9 měsíci +4

      I also didn’t show blowing the dimension on the bore of the direct index plate and having to weld it up and re-bore it. Twice. 🤷‍♂️

    • @danceswithaardvarks3284
      @danceswithaardvarks3284 Před 9 měsíci

      ouch

  • @DavidPlass
    @DavidPlass Před 9 měsíci +2

    Love the frequent stops. "Hold on..." while wire-wheeling the latest victim.

  • @macdrew77
    @macdrew77 Před 9 měsíci +7

    Casting seems like such a useful skill for a machinist to have. The handle turned out really great.

    • @Telephonebill51
      @Telephonebill51 Před 9 měsíci

      There's a dude in Australia (Cutting Edge Eng) that melted some scrap to make a couple of billets for a rotary welding ground.
      czcams.com/video/bIkHtYWENiA/video.html

  • @TradeWorks_Construction
    @TradeWorks_Construction Před 9 měsíci +5

    While I can appreciate getting lost in scraping I wanted to bring something to the forefront that people often forget: When you’re scraping an item that isn’t a large chunk of cast iron that will have an opposing sliding surface you need to take into account how it’s final install position will affect things before investing a ridiculous amount of time making it flat/parallel/perpendicular/square.
    For instance the little rabbit ears on the sides of a rotating base will more than likely act differently than the large base when tightened down to a table, while said base will also experience some contact from being pulled into the table… basically scraping parts independently that will get clamped later will most likely NOT provide any real tangible gains for the time & energy. However if it’s purpose is mostly done for practice, looks, or cuz I feel like it then you are actually my long lost brother and I say Keep on Keeping On!

    • @melgross
      @melgross Před 9 měsíci

      That’s very true. I remove burrs, because old equipment always has them. Scraping isn’t a panacea. You can get into a lot of trouble scraping. It’s not one of my favorite things to do, and it’s mostly unnecessary.

  • @onsecondthought4174
    @onsecondthought4174 Před 9 měsíci +4

    The cross hatching is for holding oil. Not making it fit.

  • @WekaWindows
    @WekaWindows Před 9 měsíci +5

    Hi Jeremy - word to the wise. Easiest way I've found is to measure moisture % is find a consistency that works, then tamp down a known volume and weigh it.
    Another way of ensuring a uniform water content is mulling, but those machines can be a bit of a headache to find as I'm sure you're aware.
    A cheap alternative that works nicely is a big baking sheet and some non-porous sheet on top of it. Pour the sand on it, roll it with a rolling pin, then just fold it in half with the sheet, and repeat.

  • @cooperised
    @cooperised Před 9 měsíci +2

    I didn't really have time to watch this video, but I thought I could put it on in the background and get something else done at the same time. I was wrong - I watched every second! Great job, great video.

  • @Rustinox
    @Rustinox Před 9 měsíci +5

    And from junk to gem again. Really nice job, Jeremy.

  • @PioneerRifleCompany
    @PioneerRifleCompany Před 24 dny

    Well, in my world I use my dividing head nearly once a day, especially when making tooling. Great restoration and that was definitely a good find!

  • @RotarySMP
    @RotarySMP Před 9 měsíci +7

    Cool. Casting parts in the middle of the video. Love it Jeremy.
    Do you have a sand muller yet? Best addition to a home foundry ever.

    • @JeremyMakesThings
      @JeremyMakesThings  Před 9 měsíci +4

      I don’t, and I think that would solve a lot of my issues with getting my sand right.

    • @jdmccorful
      @jdmccorful Před 9 měsíci

      @@JeremyMakesThings Temperature, also. Thanks for the fun.

  • @jdmccorful
    @jdmccorful Před 9 měsíci +9

    Without a doubt, you are quite the "Artisan" in the world of Maintenance ! Thanks for the adventure.

  • @brianwalk108
    @brianwalk108 Před 9 měsíci +5

    Just found your channel, but I gotta say, your level and talent and knowledge combined with your sense of humor and sarcasm come together to make some really enjoyable videos. Subscribed!

  • @jobkneppers
    @jobkneppers Před měsícem

    Jeremy, a quality piece from the past restored to it's former beauty! Much better than re-engineering Chinesium castings to become a useful tool. I always think of the people who made it back then and try to make them pride again. This is a quality piece from the past which found it's way to Jeremy who appreciates it and restores it as good as new. No shortcuts here. Let's cast a new brass handle is something I wouldn't do because of the location of my shop. I would silver solder a few brass parts to get to a similar result. Thank you for sharing your work! Best, Job

  • @MyLilMule
    @MyLilMule Před 9 měsíci +3

    I used to own an Ellis dividing head. Nicely made tool, for sure.

  • @jobkneppers
    @jobkneppers Před měsícem

    Jeremy, shortening bolts with a nut like you did is simple if you use a boring bar, reverse the spindle and cut it from the back to the center. Now the bolt just becomes tighter when you turn. Best! Job

  • @the_real_randall
    @the_real_randall Před 9 měsíci +1

    As an owner of an Ellis dividing head, I have enjoyed mine. Very nice tool.

  • @RedDogForge
    @RedDogForge Před 8 měsíci

    Watching someone who's obviously still learning and growing with a strong understanding of the fundamentals is giving me hope :)

  • @DangerousSportsForSeniors
    @DangerousSportsForSeniors Před 9 měsíci +1

    Connecting a Smart electric motor to an old Jeep transmission probably requires a custom shaft . Another excellent video. Thanks for sharing

  • @patric3917
    @patric3917 Před 9 měsíci +1

    now you just need to make a wrench that handles a 7-side bolt! .. Ultimate "Don't borrow my tools" moment ;)

  • @andrewdolinskiatcarpathian
    @andrewdolinskiatcarpathian Před 9 měsíci +1

    Proves that a gem can be found with patience, effort and skill. Thank you for sharing such an inspiring restoration. 👏👏👍😀

  • @yeagerxp
    @yeagerxp Před 9 měsíci +2

    Excellent work 👍👍👍. Thank you for sharing. Be safe 🇨🇦

  • @TomChame
    @TomChame Před 9 měsíci +2

    Very nice job! Well done, thanks.

  • @FliesLikeABrick
    @FliesLikeABrick Před 9 měsíci +1

    What a beautiful outcome

  • @rickpalechuk4411
    @rickpalechuk4411 Před 9 měsíci

    Love the purple degreaser, works great.
    Nice resto/upgrade
    Cheers

  • @shawnmrfixitlee6478
    @shawnmrfixitlee6478 Před 9 měsíci

    ❤ the 7 sided bolt .. LOL ! Great job works and looks great , ENJOYED !👍👍

  • @guye7763
    @guye7763 Před 9 měsíci +1

    That was really good work, well done!

  • @VincenzOmaha
    @VincenzOmaha Před 9 měsíci

    Excellent video. Thank you!

  • @Koptokaf
    @Koptokaf Před 9 měsíci +1

    As always really interesting video. The shot placement and framing is superb now that you have your camera boom incorporated. it truely shows. Good stuff.

  • @barthanes1
    @barthanes1 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Nice! Battleship gray is one of my favorite tool colors.

  • @624Dudley
    @624Dudley Před 9 měsíci

    Another nice equipment refurb. 👍

  • @michaelleduc219
    @michaelleduc219 Před 7 měsíci

    I just bought a Republic dividing head that is very similar to the Ellis. This video has been very helpful as I get the Republic dividing head tuned up and ready to go. Thanks for the effort to put this video together.

  • @jeffanderson4979
    @jeffanderson4979 Před 9 měsíci

    Incredible transformation

  • @skeeton5772
    @skeeton5772 Před 9 měsíci

    Awesome stuff, I've always found machining interest and I am starting to try my hand at turning on a manual lathe

  • @riddle672
    @riddle672 Před 8 měsíci

    Used to work with dividing / index heads almost 2 decades back.. miss all those wheel selection calculation and trying not to get distracted when rotating index head . Tricks to bring back to previous point in case distracted during indexing. But CNC have made life easier

  • @jeffo881
    @jeffo881 Před 9 měsíci

    randomly showed up in my feed today, stopped to check it out, I subscribed.

  • @user-zt5st2jg5f
    @user-zt5st2jg5f Před 9 měsíci

    Nice! Battleship gray is one of my favorite tool colors.. That was really good work, well done!.

  • @DanelonNicolas
    @DanelonNicolas Před 9 měsíci

    Amazing job! I love the "hang on" before cleaning the scews haha

  • @julias-shed
    @julias-shed Před 9 měsíci +1

    Like what you did with the bolts very neat 😀

  • @georgebrown8312
    @georgebrown8312 Před 9 měsíci

    That is awesome. I have never seen a device like the dividing head machine. It looks much better and it works like a charm too. Excellent work.

  • @boogiewoogiebubbleboy2877
    @boogiewoogiebubbleboy2877 Před 6 měsíci

    Great video. Thanks for showing us 😉🇬🇧🇺🇦⚒️

  • @parnuzutech
    @parnuzutech Před 9 měsíci

    Extraordinary 👍

  • @terryreynolds1366
    @terryreynolds1366 Před 9 měsíci

    Jeremy you are a smart person just found your videos dang i really enjoy it thanks

  • @jimsvideos7201
    @jimsvideos7201 Před 9 měsíci

    Very well done, the project and the video.

  • @mftmachining
    @mftmachining Před 9 měsíci

    Excellent job. Top.

  • @CrimFerret
    @CrimFerret Před 9 měsíci

    Great video and now that old dividing head will have a new life of helping make parts.

  • @nelson00-qk5ef
    @nelson00-qk5ef Před 9 měsíci

    One of the best channels on CZcams!

  • @jasonbell5905
    @jasonbell5905 Před 9 měsíci

    A for will power! And you have that , keep up the good work.

  • @radusodehnal8623
    @radusodehnal8623 Před 8 měsíci

    Matěj důležitější jsou tvoje zprávy v tvém podání, to studio je až na posledním miste, jinak dobrý
    👍👋❤️🌹🇨🇿

  • @plang42
    @plang42 Před měsícem

    You have great comic timing 😁

  • @paulinmt2185
    @paulinmt2185 Před 8 měsíci

    Nice work. Years ago I scored an odd-ball dividing head from a used tool dealer. It too had but one plate and no crank assembly. I custom-made the additional two plates along with the crank arm and detent pin. I still need a tail stock for it. Love the way you just cast a part you needed. Cheers!

  • @be007
    @be007 Před 9 měsíci

    nice bolt !
    cheers ben.

  • @rille47
    @rille47 Před 9 měsíci

    Ahhh good one, that 7 side bolt at the end :) love it

  • @GilmerJohn
    @GilmerJohn Před 9 měsíci

    Love the ending: 7 sides bolt!

  • @guerreroa85
    @guerreroa85 Před 8 měsíci

    Very cool! Subscribed!

  • @dannywilsher4165
    @dannywilsher4165 Před 9 měsíci

    Jeremy makes nice things!!!

  • @barthanes1
    @barthanes1 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Well, it looked like an anchor when you started, but now it's damn fancy.

  • @RedDogForge
    @RedDogForge Před 8 měsíci

    That reamers awesome :)

  • @Tasarran
    @Tasarran Před 8 měsíci

    Somehow, I knew you were going to make a seven-sided something!
    I'm psychotic! ;)

  • @lundysden6781
    @lundysden6781 Před 9 měsíci

    nice work!

  • @RedDogForge
    @RedDogForge Před 8 měsíci

    I've got a 1928 south bend and a 1953 atlas. Weird noises are DEFINATELY the norm lol

  • @Beef4Dinner22
    @Beef4Dinner22 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Now you need to make a hept- wrench to go with your new bolt.

  • @jamest.5001
    @jamest.5001 Před 9 měsíci

    That would have looked awesome painted that mint green hammer tone old Tool boxes and tools were painted with!

  • @williamogilvie6909
    @williamogilvie6909 Před 9 měsíci

    Very nice restoration job. I have the same dividing head; bought on eBay for $320. It came with a 3 jaw chuck and was unpainted with no rust. I think the seller bead-blasted it. At some point it must have taken a tumble because the 15/8" 8 tpi thread was dented. The 3-jaw chuck will only screw on part way. I was able to use a faceplate from my South Bend heavy 10 lathe, which is 13/4" 8 tpi. It works really well. Except for the thread damage, it is ok. I clawed back $50 from the seller, a good guy.

  • @joell439
    @joell439 Před 9 měsíci

    PERFECT!

  • @jamest.5001
    @jamest.5001 Před 9 měsíci

    Try lost foam casting, you make the part from foam, coat it in plaster, allow it to set, put it in dry sand to pour, No moisture problems!!

  • @joeo6378
    @joeo6378 Před 9 měsíci

    can hear discord alert at 16:38 and it make me jump to check who messaged me lol.
    Cool video. It is clear you put in a ton of effort into your projects, video, sound. Thank you for sharing.

  • @KW-ei3pi
    @KW-ei3pi Před 8 měsíci

    A great project. Nicely done! The big problem with disassembling one of these, is knowing how to get them apart. A real time disassembly with explanations would have made this a much more valuable resource. Some "beauty shots" at the end would have been nice. I looks like it turned out very nice. Regards,

  • @ronwilken5219
    @ronwilken5219 Před 9 měsíci

    So who's going to get theseptagonal headed bolt in their Christmas stocking this year? Neat rebuild and adaption of random bits to make it more useful. Thanks for the video.

  • @Galerak1
    @Galerak1 Před 9 měsíci

    7-sided bolt heads will be the next great thing, you just wait and see 👍

  • @petergdk
    @petergdk Před 9 měsíci

    0.15...0.15...0.15......0.25.... VERY relatable :)
    Awesome video. Can't believe i just only found your channel. Very funny, and your skils are impressive :)

  • @wanpengqian
    @wanpengqian Před 9 měsíci

    Now you have to make a wrench that will fit you bolt😊

  • @Bakafish
    @Bakafish Před 9 měsíci +1

    LOL, scraping always goes out of hand. That head looks quite nice though, I have a B&S style, that one is new to me.

  • @johnnym1320
    @johnnym1320 Před 9 měsíci +2

    turned out great! one thing to be aware of, if you pass the index hole you should not just backup into the hole, you need to backup past the hole to take the backlash out first.

  • @martinschroederglst
    @martinschroederglst Před 9 měsíci

    "Perfect!"^^

  • @billdoodson4232
    @billdoodson4232 Před 9 měsíci

    Anchorlube seem to be going all out with getting the name around on CZcams machinist channels at the moment.

  • @williswalker1294
    @williswalker1294 Před 9 měsíci

    And thats why i bought that set of 7 point sockets before Sears went under

  • @melgross
    @melgross Před 9 měsíci

    I hope you checked parallelism of the sides while you were scraping. I bought one of these with a broken foot. Making a new toe with ductile iron and welding it back one wasn’t too much work. These are very good heads when they’re cleaned up properly.
    The second lock screw hole is used on some versions because they’re made to reverse the spindle. It’s easier, and cheaper, to just make all of the bodies the same. Don’t lock the rear part of the spindle. It will knock it out of spec.

    • @JeremyMakesThings
      @JeremyMakesThings  Před 9 měsíci

      I didn’t check parallelism because 1)I didn’t take enough off to really change it (much) and 2) it doesn’t really matter here because any parallelism error will be taken out when the tilt of the head is clocked in. I guess the one time it would matter is if I had the head vertical and was cutting across it, but I think I’d be more likely to use a rotary table for that.

  • @jimmyfleebot
    @jimmyfleebot Před 9 měsíci

    I subscribed because you ended the show with a seven sided bolt... Only thing left to do is to throw it into a parts bin at work and wait for the mayhem.

  • @ElectronicDrug
    @ElectronicDrug Před 9 měsíci

    Sept-head bolts will catch on I'm sure

  • @lolcec81
    @lolcec81 Před 9 měsíci

    Комментарий в поддержку канала и ролика, а также труда мастера

  • @nikspanakis
    @nikspanakis Před 24 dny

    Forgot to make the seven sides wrench. Just need a 51,43 deg notched side.

  • @TgWags69
    @TgWags69 Před 9 měsíci

    Caustic soda/lye/sodium hydroxide....makes an awesome paint stripper/degreaser. Usually much much cheaper than bottled stuff. I keep a fifty pound bag in the shop for all kind of stuff like electrolysis, drain cleaner, oven cleaner, geopolymer experiments etc. Of course it probably would've taken the paint and script of of your tags, and it is pretty harsh on aluminum so you have to watch.....but when you need the big guns, there's no comparison.

  • @BudiSapari-xv4je
    @BudiSapari-xv4je Před 9 měsíci

    keren paman

  • @davidsorkin
    @davidsorkin Před 4 měsíci

    Thanks for making this great video. It really has it all! Machining, scraping, forging, casting - very entertaining and informative. I found it and your channel (now subscribed) because I am restoring my own Ellis Dividing Head that I picked up at an auction. How did you get the spindle out? You showed it very quickly and it seemed like it just came out with a little persuasion. Mine is not coming out and I'm afraid of just using a bigger hammer. Also, any tips on getting the chuck off? It's stuck on pretty good. Thanks again! David

    • @JeremyMakesThings
      @JeremyMakesThings  Před 4 měsíci

      Once the lock ring on the back is off, the spindle gets driven out the front.
      As far as getting a stuck chuck off, I had to do that when I got my lathe. I chucked a piece of hex stock in it and used an impact wrench. Brutal but effective.

  • @petemclinc
    @petemclinc Před 9 měsíci

    Nice restoration Jeremy or better yet a reconstruction, you went all out. At 1:18 I see that the worm pivots on a pin thru the main housing, can you explain why that is. I'm considering
    buying a similar Ellis unit but the pivot movement seemed excessive, I thought it might be
    damaged. Your thoughts please, thanks a bunch!

    • @JeremyMakesThings
      @JeremyMakesThings  Před 9 měsíci

      It’s so you can disengage the worm to use the direct index finger plate without having to crank the handle (imagine if you were making a bunch of hex bolts, it would be easier to turn the spindle by hand). There are two set screws on the top, one on either side of the pivot to dial in the engagement o the worm with the worm wheel or to disengage it. It’s a pretty slick design.

  • @ccbproductsmulti-bendaustr3200

    👏👏👏👌

  • @maddexxx847
    @maddexxx847 Před 8 měsíci

    I watched this video even though I have no idea what a dividing head is

  • @NeMoC53
    @NeMoC53 Před 9 měsíci

    What brand of rattle can is that? I really like that color gray.
    Really nice work on this!

  • @markedevold1261
    @markedevold1261 Před 9 měsíci

    👍👍

  • @MarkATrombley
    @MarkATrombley Před 9 měsíci

    Are the plunger holes in different dividing head plates all the same size? I could see one plate having metric holes and another imperial. Or one manufacturer using a slightly different size holes than a different manufacturer even if both use metric.

    • @JeremyMakesThings
      @JeremyMakesThings  Před 9 měsíci

      Both of the plates I had were 1/8”, the plunger I used the parts from was slightly smaller, but since I had to shorten it anyway, I just cut off the smaller diameter.

  • @lark_ch1
    @lark_ch1 Před 8 měsíci

    Did you go pass the hole with handle ? It will create error. Its one time error, it doesnt add up, but some holes might be shifted.

  • @deeiks12
    @deeiks12 Před 9 měsíci

    How do you align the hex head bolt with the collet block?

  • @ethanmiller5487
    @ethanmiller5487 Před 8 měsíci

    Did you check parallelism on your base plate?

  • @Bobs-Wrigles5555
    @Bobs-Wrigles5555 Před 9 měsíci

    Somewhere in the reconstruction of the Jeep, you'll have to get "someone" to tighten up that bolt...Your Son perhaps?

    • @JeremyMakesThings
      @JeremyMakesThings  Před 9 měsíci

      Haha….now that you say that, I know EXACTLY where this bolt is going to go. 😆

    • @Bobs-Wrigles5555
      @Bobs-Wrigles5555 Před 9 měsíci

      @@JeremyMakesThings 👍😈

  • @chopper3lw
    @chopper3lw Před 9 měsíci

    I want a seven sided bolt now too dammit!

  • @jonathonworner360
    @jonathonworner360 Před 19 dny

    What's a dividing head part of, and it's purpose?
    I watch videos like these because I like seeing mechanical things getting restored

    • @hairymcnipples
      @hairymcnipples Před 18 dny

      It's not a part of another tool, although it is used in concert with a machine tool - particularly a mill. It's used to create circular patterns of features divided very accurately, and it's particularly useful because it's very flexible. Consider that you want 60 holes evenly distributed in a circle, or a 220 tooth gear. The dividing head can be used to turn the part by a very accurate fraction of a full revolution.

  • @waynepennington2769
    @waynepennington2769 Před 9 měsíci

    What is this used for anyway.

  • @Hazmatt4700
    @Hazmatt4700 Před 8 měsíci

    Tooo useful. Needs more Arduino