esta mal el video las notas a partir del Do5 central, están mal en el video, las mas altas son en el Do6 y las mas bajas son en el Do3, hay que corregir eso porque engañan a la gente.
As a tenor I have to say....i have all the love and respect for bass singers. They can hit notes that I can only dream of. They deserve more recognition for that.
@Nyux, develop your high range. Most basses have access to higher notes but get stuck into the mindset they cannot access them. I am a low bass (E1 is my lowest chest note), yet, I have trained to be able to belt up to D5 and falsetto up to C#6.
With falsetto I can reach up to a G#5 and my chest voice reaches a C2. I'm very happy that I'm a bass. I'm very bad at bwlting though. And that middle range is always a big challenge. I usually sing all songs an octave lower except for the really high notes that I can reach somehow.
@@doormatcat, got to work on your breaks. My first break occurs at F#3, which is tough, given this is a prime location for the lower end of a tenor's range and prime real estate for a baritone. A lot of songs written for either a tenor or a baritone cover this overlap area for tenors and baritones, which happens to be a bad place, since I have to navigate a vocal break area.
Voice type is determined by range, weight and timbre. Some of the “baritones” and “basses” have insane ranges but their voice colour is much lighter. True basses are pretty rare.
Yeh. I think that Geoff Castellucci(which they used for the E4) is a bass-batitone. Because he said himself that he's more comfortable singing in baritone range.
I remembering reading somewhere, and correct me if I’m wrong because I’ve never found another number, but supposedly on”y around 5% of all men who sing bass are true basses. Again, not sure if that’s correct, but I read that at some point.
@@Ember_Prime well bass is the rarest voice type and very few who sing low are basses. In acappella of the ones they showed in here; Avi Kaplan is a bass, Geoff Castelluci is not, Tim Foust may be but he won't commit definitely and Matt Sallee appears to be a baritone singing bass as well as Geoff.
Many says I'm a bass, but I have a thin and a light voice that Tenors have (but I can't hit high notes like Tenors) My vocal range is Eb2-G#4-(F#6 whistle)
I've heard the distribution is 25% Tenor, 70% Baritone and 5% Bass. In Pop it seems to almost only be tenor. But in Jazz which I hear a lot of it seems to be way more baritones.
I hit low notes like a tenor and high notes like a bass :'( UPDATE: My teacher told me that, as for now, I'm a tenor. I'm working on my breath support and technique.
The one thing I love about Baritones is that specific raspiness that always sticks to their voices. I can't properly explain but truly I think its beautiful.
As a girl with a lower singing voice, I can’t even imagine how awesome it must be to be a bass. I love singing in tenor range, it makes me feel special, but singing that low just seems magical to me.
Baritones are my favorite vocalists. They really don't get enough love but they're so soothing ❤️ Gotta say though, that last bass note went straight to my toes!
Low notes are as cool and amazing as high notes, and I think they should have more space in this channel guys(But that doesn't mean I quit on Dimash's analysis)
@@pedrohenriquerossimarculan5155 The most popular belief is that he is obviously tenor. But his tonal quality at the low range is very rich that some suspect him as high bari.
I just wanna drop this in the comments: all of these singers are SUPER trained. Especially when we talk about “tenor” high notes, 5th octave is insanely hard. Most of the male singers who regularly go past even a C#5 are countertenors (male singers with female range). Classification by range is also helpful but not a sentence! I’m a high baritone, but with my training, I can sing full tenor songs and sometimes even bass stuff if I work hard for it. I know the vid is for entertainment, but I wanted to drop this here. Happy singing everybody! :) (tldr: lots of pop high notes are actually near impossible lmfao)
I would have to disagree going past a C5/D5 is actually very normal for men like in daily talking men could get that high but ofc not everyone can sing it properly. I would say countertenors would mostly sing way higher, in a soprano range like (F5-Bb5)
I think that's kind of not true. I'm a baritone with a small range, which means I lose ease At G2 and A4, but even I can sing lots of C5s as long as they are short. Pop music usually isn't a lot of sustained stuff.
Umm Im gonna have to disagree.My Dad and brother are both baritones-both find songs sung by sopranos(or by any female) a little too low for their liking when they try to do it an octave lower.And I can hear how theyre not pushing it as much as the ladies singing the same song but an octave higher.They prefer singing 4-6 keys higher everytime.
Baritones are the lucky ones in my opinion! They have that clear and controlled tone down to some very low notes. You also can always stretch your range up but not down, also a baritone sound is much more full than us tenors
you think so? Today my teacher told me she thinks I'm a baritone as I can go to from an A2 to G#4. I've started studying one year ago and I hope my range will develop. I just want to be able to go to a B4 or C5, like being able to sing show must go one from queen or aerosmith songs.
@@tonato17 Show must go on is one of the hardest queen songs so personally, I'd say practice with easier songs by htem. Considering you're baritone, a tip I'd say is working on mix voice. It's what people use to extend higher ranges such as freddie mercury in "the show must go on". Hopefully that helps
I think the sweet spot is the baritone voice, they can go low and high I don't know why they are so underappreciated (i think basses get more attention because they have amazing low notes) but it is a little weird for me because for me a baritone and mezzo soprano are quite good tessituras because they can go low and high and are in the middle
they like the female mezzos. They good for the personal or home hitting songs, and they are unbelievably good at that. They don't have strong villain like quality that basses have or the breathtaking high notes of tenors.
No, I'd go for bass. Just because with good training they can reach good heights and their timbre is always so nice. They can have the same range as any other voice type but they have a larger area in which they can sing with nice timbre. I'd say a nice sound for a male voice is from e2 - f4. A tenor can go far above but it doesn't sound good (except in opera). On the other hand a tenor can't go below a2-c3. A bass can utilize the whole range, being comfortable from d2 - f4. (of course all the notes are very inaccurate and varying for every singer, but on the whole a bass has a nicer sound) disclaimer: this is my personal taste, i'm coming from a classical field [my favorite singer: czcams.com/video/bht3ABBhgvg/video.html ]
@@ungoliver It depends on the colour of your voice. I am myself a dramatic baritone so my voice is heavier and darker than usual baritone so If I sang opera I would play some villains. It's because my voice is kinda similar to bass when it comes to timbre but I lack the range and power of bass as my lowest note that sounds fairly decent is F2.
Due to the dark timbre and weight of the voice, baritone and bass sits in same section in a choir..bass 1 for bari and ofcourse bass 2 for a true bass.... High notes of the bass range sounds good when baritones sings it.
A baritone voice can go pretty high and low. A lot of baritones just restritct themselves with their own thinking "i cannot sing high because im a baritone" and they are right... in a way that if you are sure you won't... you won't. When i started singing I can barely hit D4 shouting, now I am able to belt A#4 and hit C5 in chest/mix so basically I am able to sing Queen songs which i have never dreamed about. Just because I didn't accept i am not abble to sing high. I am still a baritone, because I can still hit E2 with resonance and I have a dark husky voice down there but the technique matters much more than your fach. Well in contemporary singing at least, in classical you are in a box.
Omg I absolutely love this video, it made me visibly smile so much seeing recognition of how impressive low notes and how cool and diverse these vocal ranges are and how they can be used
This is why I love Geoff so much, people will say he’s not a bass, but his bass is some of the purest I’ve heard, yet he can hit amazing high notes too. He’s just amazing.
im not arguing or anything but he said he wouldnt consider himself a "true bass", he said hes more of a baritone with a bass range- which...ok...whatever you say buddy
@@youtubepup5301 He's a bass baritone and is not the same as a low baritone or a baritone with bass access. He can get as low (or lower) as any other bass and has loud low notes.
@@youtubepup5301 Nah, he ain't a true bass anyway. Avi is a true bass, not a basso profundo as other people call him to be. Tim and Geoff are not, Tim's a lyrical bass and Geoff is a Bass baritone. Both are still basses however.
Great video! As a now grown man in my mid thirties who never sang in a choir until recently, I’ve struggled to figure out where my vocal range fits. I always suspected it was in the bass/baritone range but now I know it’s definitely baritone. Thanks so much!
The last clip makes me smile 😄 Who said no Dimash here 😁 he is correctly not be included here because he will destroy the vocal limit between bass baritone and tenor, he sing comfortably in all their limits...yes, just put him at the end as if as he is one of the judges 😅
@@tthiagob5088 dimash's lowest note is the bare minimum lowest note for an operatic bass (E2), but he sung it on mic and it sounded really weak so that's not really comparable. even then a choral bass should have an audible D2, which dimash can't sing except really breathily, really briefly, really quietly and at the bottom of a slide
@@tthiagob5088 women can sing first octave notes with vocal fry. anyone can. chest voice and its resonance is what defines a low note, and his fry notes are too disconnected from his chest voice for them to really be countable. dimash is a legend and has almost 6 octaves of range but capable of singing bass he is not
As a baritone, I'm very impressed with basses, because unlike high notes you can easily use falsetto for it but with low notes there's no cheat code for it.
there actually is sort of. You need to get cold and sore throat by eating ice cream for example. I was able to do basso-profondo. Drinking a lot of strong whisky and smoking can do the trick too after some time.
There’s a variety of techniques that allows you to sing low notes outside of your range like growling or subharmonics. David Larson made many videos about these
Falsetto will never sound as full and powerful as highs in vocal mix or chest, though. It’s like emotional blue balls when someone is building up to a powerful belting part of a song and just sings falsetto. It just feels like playing it safe, and it’s so anticlimactic.
@@subbookkeeper your comment makes you sound like a fool, no trained singer would literally eat ice cream drink whiskey and shits to destroy their voices and get that low notes
I relate so much as a Tenor, my lowest note was an E2 and after blowing out my voice from coughing because of COVID I finally could hit an Eb2. Probably will never be able hit anything lower. Side note: After blowing my voice from coughing, my voice healed to be better. Singing became so much easier and relaxed. I gained one semitone in my lower extreme (E-Eb2) and one tone in my upper extreme (G#5 - Bb5) that I can hold out and produce consistently
@@kaneki3971 meu colega, minha esposa e até um maestro já falaram que sou tenor pelo meu timbre não ser como a de um barítono, mas eu consigo fazer as notas de um barítono, só não fica com aquele peso e brilho de barítono... Meu timbre e minha voz é leve.
How long did it take your voice to recover from covid.If your voice has improved since covid what do you put that down to,did the coughing in some way strengthen your voice. I'm just getting over covid at the moment . After 3 weeks although now clear I am still coughing quite a lot. I sing lead in Barbershop and am a little worried about the effects this dam virus may have on my voice.
@@NovaGN it's the same for instrumental music. Bass instruments are a part of it but are rarely given a spot to shine and are sometimes completely replaced.
I think using the word under-recognised is better than underrated, since in the singing world, people refers to him as one of the best tenors in the world today
As someone who as always been adjacent to music, but was never taught and never had an ear for it, thanks for this. It really helps me to understand what I'm hearing. 😀
Absolutely fantastic video! I freaking love these comparisons, it really shows how awesome each voice type is! A G5 is a RIDICULOUS note for a male though, even a tenor. Damn! I'm blown away!
I am a basso profondo and can hit G5... just not like that. My highest in falsetto is C#6; while I can hit an E1 in chest and down to C#1 in chest fry.
Low notes impress me WAY more than high notes. Whistle register can be impressive but nothing beats that F#1 growl note! (Maybe you should have included Geoff’s subharmic E1 from Oogie Boogie’s Song?)
I'm a Baritone. My most comfortable range is F#2 to E5. I can sometimes sing down to F2 and even E2, with Eb2 being the lowest note I've ever hit. It's amazing to see people in my vocal range and Tenor range to hit such lower notes than me! Thank you for the love!
If that's a head voice you are undoubtedly a Dramatic tenor... Or Spinto Tenor... With whatever you are telling... Can you sing the C5 or C#5 without Falsetto
@@swastiknandy5340 Yes, I can sing up to C5 without falsetto, but I do struggle. Let me restate that my low notes do go down to F2 and E2, and I even speak in a lower voice than most Baritones, but it's not necessarily impossible. You could be right, though, about me being a dramatic baritone rather than a baritone because of my higher range. I'm not a choir kid or an elitist (like you), so I don't know a whole lot.
Textbook bass here, its insane how people can belt into the 5th octave. I tried to sing the last high note with my falsetto and it was at the very top of even that! Pretty crazy. I enjoy hitting low notes though, especially in the morning I can hit like Bb1 and it feels awesome having the vibrations go through my chest. Feels powerful.
A G5 is extremely rare even for tenors so don’t stress, I can hit an F5 but it’s not a clear note at all, most tenors can’t go much higher then C5, really cool that y’all can go that low though, I have to basically force out even an E2
@@Viper-dz2kw I’d argue on the C5 being the limit for most tenors, as a lot often go above it (pop/rock) but G5 is a high note for tenors using reinforced falsetto (in the video). However in opera, C5 belts are typically the upper limit for tenors as the style is heavily based on chest ranges.
That isn't really a belt it's more of a vocal compression that singers use to make notes in their head voice way louder. It's not really belting. I'm somewhere in the baritone to tenor range, and I can sing a pretty loud G5 but it's not a full voice belt.
As a Baritone I appreciate this video. I have a lot of comments on how I’m a tenor and bass but I’m a mix. We don’t get that much of a spotlight but we are here.
How I wish I can hit those low notes. It's like my heart is filled with amazement when I hear the growl that comes with singing those incredibly low notes.
That G4 is the one in 'Pirates' by ELP, so it's technically a Heldentenor tone. Close stage and/or condensor studio miking changes how a singer uses his range, particularly for men.
Just wanna say sang 10 yrs in choir school and this one of the best vids ive ever seen on vocal range. I was always classified as Bass in school but my prob is that I can sing some notes of tenor range - so does that mean I’m baritone? No. Because as this video highlights, even if some Bases have tenor notes its not ”pure” without distortion and takes a lot of energy for us to sing. My lowest is C2-Bb1
Vocal classifications are limiting. I consider myself a bari-tenor. When I sing lower, people perceive my voice as a baritone because of the timbre, but every vocal coach calls me a tenor because of the way I sing high notes. I feel most comfortable when the range is wide and the notes jump around because it gives the different parts of the voice a rest and allows more release. I have more difficulty when the tessiture is very low or is limited to a few notes.
how are you calling yourself a baritenor just because your timbre is similar to baritones? i mean there are some trained tenors with timbre as deep as baritone or bass but they arent called a bari tenor but full tenor
15 years ago my highschool vocalist teacher told me as a baritone.. but i can reach tenor high tones when i need to.. i think i need to have another test and study by getting a vocalist course
@@thechangeofyes8179 I am confused about my vocal type, wether I am baritone or tenor, but my full vocal range is F#2-F#5-A5 but my consistent range is G#2-C5-G5
Part of this video used Voice Play's "Oogie Boogie's Song" featuring Geoff Castellucci. That music video really shows how incredible his range is. He sounds a lot like a bass although he identifies himself as a baritone with a bass range. At the end of the song he goes from a B4 to an E1 in just a couple measures. He's demonstrated that he can even hit higher notes in his falsetto.
I'm a woman but I'm somewhere between bass and baritone. I'm about equally comfortable singing both, except the lowest couple of notes often expected of basses to sing, and the highest few notes often expected of baritones. Basically I'm hovering around the second and third octaves. That lowest note in "The sound of silence" is where I start to struggle. But I'm thinking I can probably become better with those tones that are right on the border to what I'm capable of producing. My voice is not naturally this deep, it's become that way medically, but it is permanently this way now and I actually embrace that. I think it's really cool to be able to sing along with many bass guys, but it can be hard to find songs that fit my range. And trying to make my own music, I don't even know how to make songs that fit my range lol. Seems like there's very little info on how to get better at singing as a bass/baritone, in general. That's, I guess, the negative side to having a low range. That I feel pretty lonely about it. Not just for my gender but like in general. When seemingly even most men sing higher than me.
*Love this video* ❣It's like a continuation of the "Contralto, Mezzo & Soprano - Low & High Notes" video that was uploaded 2 years ago 🌟 No voice type is inherently better than the other, it's all about building on one's strengths and curbing one's weaknesses. 📚🗣🎶
@Penny Perry Unlike you, I don't rely on "sauces" to back up my claims but rather insightful sources. It's obvious that Mariah is a Lyric Coloratura Soprano. “Dolphins would hail her as a kindred spirit. And she could nail those Queen of the Night arias from Mozart’s Magic Flute,” says professional soprano and Classic FM presenter Catherine Bott. www.classicfm.com/discover-music/music-theory/mariah-carey-singing-voice/ I would say that only uninformed people would claim otherwise but in your case it's not simply that but also a ridiculous bias against her. After all you're the one who told the barefaced lie that "she never sings with core".
@Penny Perry czcams.com/video/r2G36onJhhM/video.html (czcams.com/video/ZWJZK2q-bW8/video.html - if you need the breakdown of all she did in this performance.) czcams.com/video/ZlObJAlSi78/video.htmlm30s czcams.com/video/ZlObJAlSi78/video.htmlm22s Incredibly agile in her modal voice as well (not only whistle register). Many have also realized that she has more head voice notes than previously thought, her vocal cords don't adduct properly in her upper register due to her condition so it results in airness of some her head voice notes but if you listen carefully, it sounds different from her actual falsetto and whistle register. Kindly stop comparing mainstream vocalists to Opera singers as a way to discredit them. Female Opera Singers mostly sang with head voice, in mainstream music it's obviously different. Going by your logic, Demi Lovato, Jessie J, Taylor Swift, Ariana Grande etc. wouldn't be Lyric Sopranos since they haven't displayed the ability (or better yet, have difficulty) to utilizing head voice in the 6th octave. Moreover there are things that the best Opera singers can do that the best mainstream vocalists will struggle with and vice versa. She is a Lyric Coloratura Soprano - czcams.com/video/EklmarsB81w/video.html
@Penny Perry Bias is an inherent part of human intelligence. When it gets to such a level that one becomes engulfed by it to the level of constantly experiencing cognitive dissonance like you are, then it's truly reached a detrimental stage. "Mariah doesn't even have a well developed chest voice" "Maruah never sings with core" These statements you've made in the past few days are all the proof I needed to know that you are ridiculously biased against her. I won't waste my time arguing with you, after all more learned people have asserted that about her voice. 👋
This made me realize more that I am a baritone. Since my voice matured I thought that I am a bass but I cannot reache those lows as they can. S Thanks for this.
@@heliotropeskies5918 then what do you call guys who a have a girl singing range who cant even go in the 2nd octave. Their voices are nothing like tenors so why call them that?
@@attentionseeker420 i personally think that countertenor is a voice type but i'm just trying to rationalize the lack of inclusion being that some people say countertenor is a part that u sing and not a voice type
@@HopeXiClassicalPiano actually i believe the term ur looking for is contralto. alto is simply a part that someone can sing, and not a voice type. if u look at the wikipedia page for alto it never once refers to it as a "voice type" because it isn't one, and refers to those who sing alto as contraltos, which is the actual voice type associated with the part of alto
I’m naturally a bass singer but I love singing while playing my guitar. The issue I’ve had for many years is thinking I sound bad because but I don’t have a high light sounding voice but I’ve Grown to embrace it
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esta mal el video las notas a partir del Do5 central, están mal en el video, las mas altas son en el Do6 y las mas bajas son en el Do3, hay que corregir eso porque engañan a la gente.
Giving low notes the attention they deserve because they're even more unique than high notes!
Honestly yeah, and sound pleasing
Yeah youre right..
Yeah man low notes deserve to be apreciatted
I love your profile.😳
@@cheyozengurung Me??
As a tenor I have to say....i have all the love and respect for bass singers. They can hit notes that I can only dream of. They deserve more recognition for that.
You have lucky! I wanted sing notes high as a tenor..
It’s much harder for a tenor to hit the low stuff, than a bass to go high. Mad respect for guys with that voice
@Nyux, develop your high range. Most basses have access to higher notes but get stuck into the mindset they cannot access them. I am a low bass (E1 is my lowest chest note), yet, I have trained to be able to belt up to D5 and falsetto up to C#6.
With falsetto I can reach up to a G#5 and my chest voice reaches a C2. I'm very happy that I'm a bass. I'm very bad at bwlting though. And that middle range is always a big challenge. I usually sing all songs an octave lower except for the really high notes that I can reach somehow.
@@doormatcat, got to work on your breaks. My first break occurs at F#3, which is tough, given this is a prime location for the lower end of a tenor's range and prime real estate for a baritone. A lot of songs written for either a tenor or a baritone cover this overlap area for tenors and baritones, which happens to be a bad place, since I have to navigate a vocal break area.
Voice type is determined by range, weight and timbre. Some of the “baritones” and “basses” have insane ranges but their voice colour is much lighter. True basses are pretty rare.
And also basso profundo
Yeh. I think that Geoff Castellucci(which they used for the E4) is a bass-batitone. Because he said himself that he's more comfortable singing in baritone range.
I remembering reading somewhere, and correct me if I’m wrong because I’ve never found another number, but supposedly on”y around 5% of all men who sing bass are true basses.
Again, not sure if that’s correct, but I read that at some point.
@@Ember_Prime well bass is the rarest voice type and very few who sing low are basses. In acappella of the ones they showed in here; Avi Kaplan is a bass, Geoff Castelluci is not, Tim Foust may be but he won't commit definitely and Matt Sallee appears to be a baritone singing bass as well as Geoff.
Many says I'm a bass, but I have a thin and a light voice that Tenors have (but I can't hit high notes like Tenors)
My vocal range is Eb2-G#4-(F#6 whistle)
Bass is rare and under-appreciated. It’s good to see it getting some spotlight. Everything is baritone and tenor in music.
more like tenor in pop music nowadays
I've heard the distribution is 25% Tenor, 70% Baritone and 5% Bass.
In Pop it seems to almost only be tenor.
But in Jazz which I hear a lot of it seems to be way more baritones.
Baritones appreciate the love
So do the basses
We sure do. :)
We can't sing higher nor lower. 🥺🥺
@@bohlalenchabeleng1370 it's hard and requires a lot of practice but not impossible buddy😏
@@bohlalenchabeleng1370 We can, it just requires practice.
I hit low notes like a tenor and high notes like a bass :'(
UPDATE: My teacher told me that, as for now, I'm a tenor. I'm working on my breath support and technique.
Laughing at how much I related to this as I was watching
Don't worry, just keep practising.
Diego De Gracia are you a baritone then?
same here, fuck :c
Diego De Gracia I can hit from E2-A4 in full voice. B4 mix then my falsetto and head voice goes into the fifth scale octave
I'm a lyric tenor. Would love to see more baritones and basses in pop! I'm so glad artists like Giveon are getting the attention they deserve.
Heyy!!! can you tell me what's my vocal fach? I have a video of me singing on my channel might want you to check it out ;)
Now that's a tenor I respect.
I'm a lyrical baritone in electronic pop 😭
There are even more baritones than tenors in pop ! Not about the high notes, but the colour of the voice
What is vocal range of lyric tenor?
The one thing I love about Baritones is that specific raspiness that always sticks to their voices. I can't properly explain but truly I think its beautiful.
As a girl with a lower singing voice, I can’t even imagine how awesome it must be to be a bass. I love singing in tenor range, it makes me feel special, but singing that low just seems magical to me.
Yeah but speaking as a woman bass would be funny.
@@saulcontrerasOfficial stop gender inequality rn plz😑
I love bass girl
@@curd1236 bruh
@@curd1236 No
4:24 in the morning
0:03 in the evening
Yay!
Yes
😂😂
Quite the opposite for me but sometimes yes-
@@DanganronpaEnjoyer how lol
When a person hit a high note everybody in the crowd going crazy but it’s not same with hitting the low notes. Sad
Did you even watch the video? 😂 People FLIP when those low notes get hit.
A low note is more fascinating for me. Bass notes to be specific.
have you seen the videos of tim and avi breaking speakers?
Yeah true
Man, low notes hit different. At a certain point you just FEEL it, you don’t hear it!
Baritones are my favorite vocalists. They really don't get enough love but they're so soothing ❤️
Gotta say though, that last bass note went straight to my toes!
Low notes are as cool and amazing as high notes, and I think they should have more space in this channel guys(But that doesn't mean I quit on Dimash's analysis)
Middle baritone notes are amazing too
@@Hydrasito Yeah they sound pretty dope sung by some singers
How did fedsax not include Dimash’s ogni pietra tenor and baritone
@@a2-antonio892 Because dimash is counter lol
@@pedrohenriquerossimarculan5155 The most popular belief is that he is obviously tenor. But his tonal quality at the low range is very rich that some suspect him as high bari.
I just wanna drop this in the comments: all of these singers are SUPER trained. Especially when we talk about “tenor” high notes, 5th octave is insanely hard. Most of the male singers who regularly go past even a C#5 are countertenors (male singers with female range). Classification by range is also helpful but not a sentence! I’m a high baritone, but with my training, I can sing full tenor songs and sometimes even bass stuff if I work hard for it. I know the vid is for entertainment, but I wanted to drop this here. Happy singing everybody! :)
(tldr: lots of pop high notes are actually near impossible lmfao)
pop high notes might be near impossible for Baritones and the average tenor but for high tenors they are easy.
Oh that makes sense that's why I cant sing pop songs since I'm a bass or baritone
I would have to disagree going past a C5/D5 is actually very normal for men like in daily talking men could get that high but ofc not everyone can sing it properly. I would say countertenors would mostly sing way higher, in a soprano range like (F5-Bb5)
I think that's kind of not true.
I'm a baritone with a small range, which means I lose ease At G2 and A4, but even I can sing lots of C5s as long as they are short. Pop music usually isn't a lot of sustained stuff.
@@sawyerbass4661 exactly
I love how they edit this, it makes us easily understand what are the differences
right? Same
As a tenor I say be proud if you've got strong low notes. People love them more than you may think :)
It is very rare to see someone hit low notes with so much resonance, that's why it causes a huge impact
I am truly waiting for the day when Baritones realizes they are literally Sopranos in a lower octave😩😩😩😩
periodt
Yes.. We are hahaha
And basses are mezzos in the lower octave
Umm Im gonna have to disagree.My Dad and brother are both baritones-both find songs sung by sopranos(or by any female) a little too low for their liking when they try to do it an octave lower.And I can hear how theyre not pushing it as much as the ladies singing the same song but an octave higher.They prefer singing 4-6 keys higher everytime.
@@ljramos588 are you sure that they are baritone?
I'm scared with that F#1 damn.
Tim is from another world!
@@luscao8444 from the underworld
@@mcmerry2846 I don’t think he knows underworld I think his from another place👽👽👽👽👽
a baritone could do it; it's technique moreso than natural range.
@@apersonwhoseesvids it would be uncomfortable for them still
Baritones are the lucky ones in my opinion! They have that clear and controlled tone down to some very low notes. You also can always stretch your range up but not down, also a baritone sound is much more full than us tenors
you think so? Today my teacher told me she thinks I'm a baritone as I can go to from an A2 to G#4. I've started studying one year ago and I hope my range will develop. I just want to be able to go to a B4 or C5, like being able to sing show must go one from queen or aerosmith songs.
@@tonato17 Show must go on is one of the hardest queen songs so personally, I'd say practice with easier songs by htem. Considering you're baritone, a tip I'd say is working on mix voice. It's what people use to extend higher ranges such as freddie mercury in "the show must go on". Hopefully that helps
I think the sweet spot is the baritone voice, they can go low and high
I don't know why they are so underappreciated (i think basses get more attention because they have amazing low notes) but it is a little weird for me because for me a baritone and mezzo soprano are quite good tessituras because they can go low and high and are in the middle
they like the female mezzos. They good for the personal or home hitting songs, and they are unbelievably good at that. They don't have strong villain like quality that basses have or the breathtaking high notes of tenors.
No, I'd go for bass. Just because with good training they can reach good heights and their timbre is always so nice. They can have the same range as any other voice type but they have a larger area in which they can sing with nice timbre. I'd say a nice sound for a male voice is from e2 - f4. A tenor can go far above but it doesn't sound good (except in opera). On the other hand a tenor can't go below a2-c3. A bass can utilize the whole range, being comfortable from d2 - f4. (of course all the notes are very inaccurate and varying for every singer, but on the whole a bass has a nicer sound)
disclaimer: this is my personal taste, i'm coming from a classical field [my favorite singer: czcams.com/video/bht3ABBhgvg/video.html ]
@@ungoliver It depends on the colour of your voice. I am myself a dramatic baritone so my voice is heavier and darker than usual baritone so If I sang opera I would play some villains. It's because my voice is kinda similar to bass when it comes to timbre but I lack the range and power of bass as my lowest note that sounds fairly decent is F2.
Due to the dark timbre and weight of the voice, baritone and bass sits in same section in a choir..bass 1 for bari and ofcourse bass 2 for a true bass.... High notes of the bass range sounds good when baritones sings it.
A baritone voice can go pretty high and low. A lot of baritones just restritct themselves with their own thinking "i cannot sing high because im a baritone" and they are right... in a way that if you are sure you won't... you won't. When i started singing I can barely hit D4 shouting, now I am able to belt A#4 and hit C5 in chest/mix so basically I am able to sing Queen songs which i have never dreamed about. Just because I didn't accept i am not abble to sing high. I am still a baritone, because I can still hit E2 with resonance and I have a dark husky voice down there but the technique matters much more than your fach. Well in contemporary singing at least, in classical you are in a box.
We stan people who include Pentatonix
YES
That’s right
if you knew what this word means you wouldn't use it like that
@@semnome6589 its the bands name, dude, fuck off with your dumbass gatekeepy bullshit
Ptx without Avi= 🗑
Omg I absolutely love this video, it made me visibly smile so much seeing recognition of how impressive low notes and how cool and diverse these vocal ranges are and how they can be used
This is why I love Geoff so much, people will say he’s not a bass, but his bass is some of the purest I’ve heard, yet he can hit amazing high notes too. He’s just amazing.
im not arguing or anything but he said he wouldnt consider himself a "true bass", he said hes more of a baritone with a bass range- which...ok...whatever you say buddy
@@youtubepup5301 He's a bass baritone and is not the same as a low baritone or a baritone with bass access. He can get as low (or lower) as any other bass and has loud low notes.
@@gray01216 I guess if I didn't hear him say he wasn't a true bass in one his videos i would have considered him to be a true bass. Lol
@@youtubepup5301 Nah, he ain't a true bass anyway. Avi is a true bass, not a basso profundo as other people call him to be. Tim and Geoff are not, Tim's a lyrical bass and Geoff is a Bass baritone. Both are still basses however.
@@gray01216 Yeah thats weird though that geoff can go lower than a true bass. Interesting though thanks!
I just love how much Ptx members clips you use for this.
Yess ❣️❣️And ex ptx members.
@@jusefinocachorro9790 Avi will always be a ptx member in our hearts
And home free
@@ThatOneGuy-gb7td Acapella groups come through
I like both Ptx and Voiceplay
Great video! As a now grown man in my mid thirties who never sang in a choir until recently, I’ve struggled to figure out where my vocal range fits. I always suspected it was in the bass/baritone range but now I know it’s definitely baritone. Thanks so much!
the fullness of baritones even in high notes
The guy in pentatonix his voice is soooo deep
Matt Sallee? He's their new bass singer!
The last clip makes me smile 😄
Who said no Dimash here 😁 he is correctly not be included here because he will destroy the vocal limit between bass baritone and tenor, he sing comfortably in all their limits...yes, just put him at the end as if as he is one of the judges 😅
Dimash cant sing bass obviously but yeah, his range is unreal
Dis lowest is a mid range bass note so no. But he is a baritone
@@tthiagob5088 dimash's lowest note is the bare minimum lowest note for an operatic bass (E2), but he sung it on mic and it sounded really weak so that's not really comparable. even then a choral bass should have an audible D2, which dimash can't sing except really breathily, really briefly, really quietly and at the bottom of a slide
@@tthiagob5088 women can sing first octave notes with vocal fry. anyone can. chest voice and its resonance is what defines a low note, and his fry notes are too disconnected from his chest voice for them to really be countable. dimash is a legend and has almost 6 octaves of range but capable of singing bass he is not
@@tthiagob5088 Dimash lacking resonance is one of the funniest things I've read this week. Really? That's clearly Matheus nonsense.
As a baritone, I'm very impressed with basses, because unlike high notes you can easily use falsetto for it but with low notes there's no cheat code for it.
there actually is sort of. You need to get cold and sore throat by eating ice cream for example. I was able to do basso-profondo. Drinking a lot of strong whisky and smoking can do the trick too after some time.
There’s a variety of techniques that allows you to sing low notes outside of your range like growling or subharmonics. David Larson made many videos about these
Falsetto will never sound as full and powerful as highs in vocal mix or chest, though. It’s like emotional blue balls when someone is building up to a powerful belting part of a song and just sings falsetto. It just feels like playing it safe, and it’s so anticlimactic.
@@subbookkeeper no as in naturally
@@subbookkeeper your comment makes you sound like a fool, no trained singer would literally eat ice cream drink whiskey and shits to destroy their voices and get that low notes
I relate so much as a Tenor, my lowest note was an E2 and after blowing out my voice from coughing because of COVID I finally could hit an Eb2. Probably will never be able hit anything lower.
Side note: After blowing my voice from coughing, my voice healed to be better. Singing became so much easier and relaxed. I gained one semitone in my lower extreme (E-Eb2) and one tone in my upper extreme (G#5 - Bb5) that I can hold out and produce consistently
Eu só consigo chegar no G2 e minha voz de cabeça vai até o A5, oq sou?
@@caioduart9522 Name your low chest note and high chest and falsetto together and then I will tell you what type of voice you have
@@kaneki3971 minha voz falada vai do (G2 - G4), minha voz aquecida vai do (A2 - A4). Meu falsete chega no (A5).
@@kaneki3971 meu colega, minha esposa e até um maestro já falaram que sou tenor pelo meu timbre não ser como a de um barítono, mas eu consigo fazer as notas de um barítono, só não fica com aquele peso e brilho de barítono... Meu timbre e minha voz é leve.
How long did it take your voice to recover from covid.If your voice has improved since covid what do you put that down to,did the coughing in some way strengthen your voice.
I'm just getting over covid at the moment .
After 3 weeks although now clear I am still coughing quite a lot.
I sing lead in Barbershop and am a little worried about the effects this dam virus may have on my voice.
I think the Bass notes when well addressed are gorgeous. High notes, too.
But man, if you combine them in a good harmony group is amazing.
Low notes are harder than high notes!
not really. strained high notes can really hurt and deteriorate your voice.
Yeah lol
I totally agree!
@@KajiVocals literally exactly
Both are hard if too low or too high, and if done with the wrong technique as well.
I love basses so much they’re so underrated 🥰
Basses are underrated? Aren't they the most sought after male voice?
@@NovaGN nope tenor voices are
@@daniellacalderon7436 Well, the more you know
@@NovaGN it's the same for instrumental music. Bass instruments are a part of it but are rarely given a spot to shine and are sometimes completely replaced.
@@daniellacalderon7436 tenors are trash
1:18 David Phelps is literally one of the best singers I have ever heard
And soooo underrecognized
I only found out about him in the past few months, and I’ve been amazed how many people haven’t heard of him. He definitely deserves more recognition!
I think using the word under-recognised is better than underrated, since in the singing world, people refers to him as one of the best tenors in the world today
He is more higher than any tenors, try to listen the sinner saved by grace.
F*ck tenors really
David Phelps is the best tenor alive today! Underrecognized is an understatement! Even at 52 now, he is amazing!
As someone who as always been adjacent to music, but was never taught and never had an ear for it, thanks for this. It really helps me to understand what I'm hearing. 😀
Absolutely fantastic video! I freaking love these comparisons, it really shows how awesome each voice type is!
A G5 is a RIDICULOUS note for a male though, even a tenor. Damn! I'm blown away!
Look Dimash Kudaibergen up.
Dimash kudaibergen hit a D8 with vibrato for 5 secs.
@@mayramoguel6343 I was talking more about mixed voice than anything else. But yeah, Dimash is absolutely amazing, pretty much a unicorn haha
I am a basso profondo and can hit G5... just not like that. My highest in falsetto is C#6; while I can hit an E1 in chest and down to C#1 in chest fry.
Pretty sure that was either a lyric tenor or a countertenor! They tend to be able to sing higher than a standard tenor!
Low notes impress me WAY more than high notes. Whistle register can be impressive but nothing beats that F#1 growl note!
(Maybe you should have included Geoff’s subharmic E1 from Oogie Boogie’s Song?)
Right, it’s easier to learn High notes than low notes
Or more recent B0 in the halo theme
@@zenith2296 what😮
@@thek-nerd3143 Geoff hit a B0 in Voiceplay's rendition of The Halo Theme
4:22 that gave me chills
It’s a subharmonic, you train for this, he can’t do it with his normal voice
It’s a growl. Not terribly difficult but some struggle to do one that low
@@pedrobambinoperez2572 it's a growl note
@@eligbnsu71 it is indeed, my bad
@@eligbnsu71 jajajaj no.
I'm a Baritone. My most comfortable range is F#2 to E5. I can sometimes sing down to F2 and even E2, with Eb2 being the lowest note I've ever hit. It's amazing to see people in my vocal range and Tenor range to hit such lower notes than me! Thank you for the love!
E5... And You are Baritone... Are you kidding... Is that a head voice note or Falsetto note...
If that's a head voice you are undoubtedly a Dramatic tenor... Or Spinto Tenor... With whatever you are telling... Can you sing the C5 or C#5 without Falsetto
@@swastiknandy5340 Yes, I can sing up to C5 without falsetto, but I do struggle. Let me restate that my low notes do go down to F2 and E2, and I even speak in a lower voice than most Baritones, but it's not necessarily impossible. You could be right, though, about me being a dramatic baritone rather than a baritone because of my higher range. I'm not a choir kid or an elitist (like you), so I don't know a whole lot.
@@walkuro7384 Can You sing an A#4 with chest voice... Comfortably?.. No Head Resonance?
@@walkuro7384 Which is your higher note without struggling?
Me hurting after seeing those basses can sing higher notes and those tenors can sing lower notes than me.. 😆
its okay bro if you have a 1 octave range, some people cant sing at all and have Zero Octave range..
@@apparelcommerce9065 lol😂
opposite
comparing yourself to professionals never feels good. ;-)
The dude singing "The Star Spangled Banner" is literally my cousin. His name is David Phelps.
That’s your cousin? The David Phelps?
Is david phelps actually your cousin?
@@shotarolee5021 Yes.
@@hyacinthusargus1513 well yes. Even tho he's not my cousin. But this dude already said it twice.
Tell to him he's my favorite when I heard he sang OH HOLY NIGHT
Textbook bass here, its insane how people can belt into the 5th octave. I tried to sing the last high note with my falsetto and it was at the very top of even that! Pretty crazy. I enjoy hitting low notes though, especially in the morning I can hit like Bb1 and it feels awesome having the vibrations go through my chest. Feels powerful.
A G5 is extremely rare even for tenors so don’t stress, I can hit an F5 but it’s not a clear note at all, most tenors can’t go much higher then C5, really cool that y’all can go that low though, I have to basically force out even an E2
i always wish i can sing higher but then i remember that i can sing an A1 and everything in the world is good. its so powerfu l you cant go wrong
@@Viper-dz2kw I’d argue on the C5 being the limit for most tenors, as a lot often go above it (pop/rock) but G5 is a high note for tenors using reinforced falsetto (in the video). However in opera, C5 belts are typically the upper limit for tenors as the style is heavily based on chest ranges.
That isn't really a belt it's more of a vocal compression that singers use to make notes in their head voice way louder. It's not really belting. I'm somewhere in the baritone to tenor range, and I can sing a pretty loud G5 but it's not a full voice belt.
That last note in the vid from the Bass was SO impressive 👏🏾
He's Tim Foust. An awesome and talented singer!
I love this video! 😍 you don’t see much videos showcasing Baritones and Basses. Great job!
It's been 84 years...
Sorry I didn't get that can you please explain
@@jusschillinoutmehinbaux4366 Yeah same.
It’s titanic story. When rose start to tell the story, she said “it’s been eighty four years”
As a Baritone I appreciate this video. I have a lot of comments on how I’m a tenor and bass but I’m a mix. We don’t get that much of a spotlight but we are here.
Nice video, the last one is so incredible that I keep going back to the last seconds just to hear it again!🎉
Waited for ages.....But finally....
2:26 This baritone's B4 is awesome.
The tenors was better tbh
Trying to find the guy and the song digging it but cant find it :(
@@TheVirtuoso883 should I give you the link I have found both of them
@@iron9k543 thank you but I did find it in the end soon after commenting, the duo make some lovely songs.
@@TheVirtuoso883 welcome
Man, please, keep making videos like that, it's very good to see these differences. Like and subscription!
That Intro is just perfect!💜
I only came for Avi, but what a great suprise seeing the whole group here (except Kirstie ofc)
What about Kevin???
Finally a vid about lows
How I wish I can hit those low notes. It's like my heart is filled with amazement when I hear the growl that comes with singing those incredibly low notes.
Man, how I love to have a bass vocal 💜😍
That G4 is the one in 'Pirates' by ELP, so it's technically a Heldentenor tone. Close stage and/or condensor studio miking changes how a singer uses his range, particularly for men.
Just wanna say sang 10 yrs in choir school and this one of the best vids ive ever seen on vocal range. I was always classified as Bass in school but my prob is that I can sing some notes of tenor range - so does that mean I’m baritone? No. Because as this video highlights, even if some Bases have tenor notes its not ”pure” without distortion and takes a lot of energy for us to sing. My lowest is C2-Bb1
I’m a bass and it’s finally nice to see some appreciation for bass higher registers
Finally a video that makes me feel good with my bass voice!
Vocal classifications are limiting. I consider myself a bari-tenor. When I sing lower, people perceive my voice as a baritone because of the timbre, but every vocal coach calls me a tenor because of the way I sing high notes. I feel most comfortable when the range is wide and the notes jump around because it gives the different parts of the voice a rest and allows more release. I have more difficulty when the tessiture is very low or is limited to a few notes.
I think you are a full lyric tenor / spinto tenor
how are you calling yourself a baritenor just because your timbre is similar to baritones? i mean there are some trained tenors with timbre as deep as baritone or bass but they arent called a bari tenor but full tenor
15 years ago my highschool vocalist teacher told me as a baritone.. but i can reach tenor high tones when i need to.. i think i need to have another test and study by getting a vocalist course
0:35 - my tenor throat could never 😂
My bari throat could, but just barely.
My bass trout can
@@Sheamuscz I am a Bass Baritone so at least better than a Baritone
@@NkemUtomi Indeed. :)
can somebody tell me the name of the song pls 🥺
Thank you! I was looking for a video like this!
I actually thought this was very helpful, thank you. I don’t know a whole lot about music other than just listening to it lol. Very good
Tim Faust has a voice that could make mountains tremble.
Nothing beats BASS! BASS voices are legends!
I’m a tenor with a pretty good range: F2-D5 and fun fact! Most tenors sound weak around A2 or lower but my F2 sounds very full!
@@thechangeofyes8179 maybe you are a high baritone
@@jhdde8001 Nope. Pure tenor.
@@thechangeofyes8179 I am confused about my vocal type, wether I am baritone or tenor, but my full vocal range is F#2-F#5-A5 but my consistent range is G#2-C5-G5
Base singing over C5 is the true legend.
Wow, video utilissimo! Bravissimi!
Now i finally understand, thank you💜
I mean, Geoff does belt a B4 right after the E4 that you showed.
Yea, but Geoff is literally a demon..
Countertenor on high notes is just🥴🔥
Fascinating!
Most accurate video on voice placements I’ve seen with examples
Finally 💜
Avi, Tim, and Geoff are amazing!!!
Except Geoff because he calls himself a baritone
That's the best explanation I've had. Thank you. In the last 4.36 I've discovered I'm a Barritone, I guess.
All sounds amazing...
3:32 Slay Mitchell!!
Part of this video used Voice Play's "Oogie Boogie's Song" featuring Geoff Castellucci. That music video really shows how incredible his range is. He sounds a lot like a bass although he identifies himself as a baritone with a bass range. At the end of the song he goes from a B4 to an E1 in just a couple measures. He's demonstrated that he can even hit higher notes in his falsetto.
Have you ever heard of a identity crisis?
The low notes are just 🥰🥰🥰
I'm a woman but I'm somewhere between bass and baritone. I'm about equally comfortable singing both, except the lowest couple of notes often expected of basses to sing, and the highest few notes often expected of baritones. Basically I'm hovering around the second and third octaves. That lowest note in "The sound of silence" is where I start to struggle. But I'm thinking I can probably become better with those tones that are right on the border to what I'm capable of producing.
My voice is not naturally this deep, it's become that way medically, but it is permanently this way now and I actually embrace that. I think it's really cool to be able to sing along with many bass guys, but it can be hard to find songs that fit my range. And trying to make my own music, I don't even know how to make songs that fit my range lol. Seems like there's very little info on how to get better at singing as a bass/baritone, in general. That's, I guess, the negative side to having a low range. That I feel pretty lonely about it. Not just for my gender but like in general. When seemingly even most men sing higher than me.
Bass representing!
Thanks for including Tomi P!!
Found you again
This is a great audiovisual explanation
WOW!!! GREAT ANALYSIS!!! I'LL SHARE THIS ;)!!!
I’m a tenor and I love singing low notes as well as hitting high tenor notes
*Love this video* ❣It's like a continuation of the "Contralto, Mezzo & Soprano - Low & High Notes" video that was uploaded 2 years ago 🌟
No voice type is inherently better than the other, it's all about building on one's strengths and curbing one's weaknesses. 📚🗣🎶
@Penny Perry Unlike you, I don't rely on "sauces" to back up my claims but rather insightful sources.
It's obvious that Mariah is a Lyric Coloratura Soprano.
“Dolphins would hail her as a kindred spirit. And she could nail those Queen of the Night arias from Mozart’s Magic Flute,” says professional soprano and Classic FM presenter Catherine Bott. www.classicfm.com/discover-music/music-theory/mariah-carey-singing-voice/
I would say that only uninformed people would claim otherwise but in your case it's not simply that but also a ridiculous bias against her. After all you're the one who told the barefaced lie that "she never sings with core".
@Penny Perry czcams.com/video/r2G36onJhhM/video.html
(czcams.com/video/ZWJZK2q-bW8/video.html - if you need the breakdown of all she did in this performance.)
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Incredibly agile in her modal voice as well (not only whistle register).
Many have also realized that she has more head voice notes than previously thought, her vocal cords don't adduct properly in her upper register due to her condition so it results in airness of some her head voice notes but if you listen carefully, it sounds different from her actual falsetto and whistle register.
Kindly stop comparing mainstream vocalists to Opera singers as a way to discredit them.
Female Opera Singers mostly sang with head voice, in mainstream music it's obviously different. Going by your logic, Demi Lovato, Jessie J, Taylor Swift, Ariana Grande etc. wouldn't be Lyric Sopranos since they haven't displayed the ability (or better yet, have difficulty) to utilizing head voice in the 6th octave.
Moreover there are things that the best Opera singers can do that the best mainstream vocalists will struggle with and vice versa.
She is a Lyric Coloratura Soprano - czcams.com/video/EklmarsB81w/video.html
@Penny Perry Bias is an inherent part of human intelligence. When it gets to such a level that one becomes engulfed by it to the level of constantly experiencing cognitive dissonance like you are, then it's truly reached a detrimental stage.
"Mariah doesn't even have a well developed chest voice" "Maruah never sings with core" These statements you've made in the past few days are all the proof I needed to know that you are ridiculously biased against her.
I won't waste my time arguing with you, after all more learned people have asserted that about her voice.
👋
@Penny Perry You need a brain lol
@Penny Perry No lol
Great video! Very informative
That f#1 gave me chills it’s like asmr
Let's give more appreciation to low notes singers, I personally think they are amazing
For a tenor, that F#2 was impressive
The bass voices here are so light, I never thought they could be bass
They're probably not
This made me realize more that I am a baritone. Since my voice matured I thought that I am a bass but I cannot reache those lows as they can. S
Thanks for this.
My conclusion: I am the world’s shittiest bass
same what I would do to be a baritone. My range right now is and E2-F4-C5
I am a bass too(i think) :(
my lowest is E2 while higest is c4 sometimes with some warm up i can upto d4 and my falsetto is basically 1 octave higher
@@belimvasim143 yes I have to warm up to hit the f4 but I can belt it which is nice hopefully by the end of they year i can hit a g4
@@belimvasim143 I'm exactly as you :')
you all are great! Don't be sad about your vocal range.
i'm 13 and my vocal range is B1/C2 - G3 - F4 or something like that.
Baritone seems the most balanced and versatile.
I loved the B4 in Baritones
This Subharmonic Bass note was insane, the one at the end.
that was growl :)
2:58 this is definitely Lee Hyuk. So nice. Jung Dong Ha killed it also but why is there no Mitch Grassi's high note....
You should've included countertenors; they're way less rare than altos
there's some debate as to whether or not countertenor is a voice type. same with alto, they say its just a part that you can sing, not a voice type
@@heliotropeskies5918 then what do you call guys who a have a girl singing range who cant even go in the 2nd octave. Their voices are nothing like tenors so why call them that?
@@attentionseeker420 i personally think that countertenor is a voice type but i'm just trying to rationalize the lack of inclusion being that some people say countertenor is a part that u sing and not a voice type
@@HopeXiClassicalPiano talent makes you not able to sing low notes?
@@HopeXiClassicalPiano actually i believe the term ur looking for is contralto. alto is simply a part that someone can sing, and not a voice type. if u look at the wikipedia page for alto it never once refers to it as a "voice type" because it isn't one, and refers to those who sing alto as contraltos, which is the actual voice type associated with the part of alto
As someone is is a Bass Baritenor, I see this as an absolute win
I’m naturally a bass singer but I love singing while playing my guitar. The issue I’ve had for many years is thinking I sound bad because but I don’t have a high light sounding voice but I’ve Grown to embrace it
😂😂