In The Beginning Was The Word - John Piper [John 1:1-3]
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In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. - John 1:1-3
Beautiful beautiful and truthful sermon delivered with impact! Thank you God
Yea! John could have asked Mary ANYTHING! Oh how exiting!!! _ALL GLORY_ goes to The KING of kings, and LORD of lords!
Beautiful and Wonderful! Thank You!
"YOUR WORD IS THE TRUTH" John 6 Jesus said, they will all be taught by God. Everyone who has listened to THE FATHER AND HAS LEARNED comes to me.
47 Most truly I say to you, whoever believes has everlasting life. John 18 Jesus answered: For this I have been born, and for this I have come into the world, that I should bear witness to THE TRUTH. Everyone who is ON THE SIDE OF THE TRUTH listens to MY voice.” 38 Pilate said to him: “What is TRUTH?”
John 17: 8 Jesus said: because I have given them the sayings that you (Father) gave me , l and they have accepted them and have certainly come to know that I CAME AS YOUR REPRESENTATIVE. 17 Sanctify them by means of THE TRUTH; "YOUR WORD IS TRUTH". 18 Jesus said: JUST AS YOU SENT ME into the world, I also sent them into the world. 19 And I am sanctifying myself in their behalf, so that they also may be sanctified by means of TRUTH.
John 20:31- The scripture being quoted in the prayer at the outset is John’s explicit statement of what he wants to convey. If you believe that Jesus is the Christ, The Son of God, this is an important part of how you may be saved. John 8:31 - abide in my word. Trust what I have said. 1John 2;22 “ Who is the liar but the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one who denies the Father and the Son. 23. Everyone who denies the Son does not have the Father either. But whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also. “
What do these scriptures emphasize? Do they not emphasize that you need a belief in Jesus as the messiah in addition to a devotion to God the father of Jesus? Recall that John is speaking primarily to people who believe in God. They worshipped at Jehovah’s Temple in Jerusalem and at the synagogues. They have The Father. What they may not have , especially since the destruction of the Temple and Jerusalem in 70 CE is Access to Jehovah as they did through the sacrifices and the priestly arrangement. They need a Hi Priest, a Messiah. They need The Son of God.
Why did Jesus reveal that “ The Word” is another name that Jesus is called by during his prehuman life? Jesus serves and always has served God as His spokesman. He came to witness ( testify) to the truth of God. Jesus also being the firstborn of all creation, the only begotten Son of God, through whom and for a whom all creation was produced, Jesus was Spoken into existence by God as the ONLY begotten direct creation of God. Jesus was literally The Word of God.
In absolutely no place in John’s writing does John state that Jesus IS God. John1:1 literally and grammatically states: “ In the beginning was The Word and The Word was alongside The God and divine ( a quality) was The Word. “
Now go back and read the statement that John made in the first line of this paragraph. What is important. Believe in Jesus as the Son of God , put faith in him and what he says about himself. Jesus is the Son of God. Jesus prayed to God. Jesus sent a message to his apostles; I go to my Father and your Father and my God and Your God.
Have the Father and The Son.
Stop reading through the lens of our age. The people Jesus spoke to, the 1st century Jews and Pharisees, knew Jesus meant He was calling Himself God. That’s why they picked up stones to kill Him for blasphemy.
Thank you for this wonderfully described video, "The Word of Life", is the devotional I am attaching this to a Bible forum. Yes, Jesus is The Word of God, made flesh and dwelt among us. God richly bless you and your Ministry for Jesus. + (John 1:1-3)
Abigail Jesus was circumcised at 8 years old, God being circumcised lol its so pathetic. God coming down in Jesus to urinate and defacate its ridiculous. How can anyone need to believe such rubbish
You seem to have added your thoughts to scripture. John 1 does not the Word of God was made flesh. It says the Word was made flesh. You twisted the verse to echo Revelation 19.13 that says the Son's name will be the Word of God. John 1.14 says otherwise the Word became flesh and he was revealed as the Begotten Son of the Father.
Beautiful sermon.
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning was the word. The word was with God.... remember?
Read John 17:3
Gospel Tracks Well said.
If Jesus is The Great "I'm", the Father who is in heaven, why Peter and John said while they were preaching: Acts 3:13 13 The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified His Servant and Son Jesus 15 But you killed the Prince of life, whom God raised from the dead. and Paul in Galatians 1:1 God The Father resurrected Jesus and why Jesus himself said John 14:24 Whoever does not love me does not observe my words. The word that you are hearing is NOT MINE, but belongs to the Father WHO SENT ME...John12: 49 For I have not spoken of my own initiative, but the Father who sent me has himself given me a commandment about what to say and what to speak. 50 And I know that his commandment means* everlasting life. So whatever I speak, I speak just as the Father has told me.
Who appointed Jesus as high priest? Hebrews 3: consider the apostle and high priest whom we acknowledge-Jesus. 2 He was faithful to the One who appointed him, Hebrews 5:5
the Christ did not glorify himself by becoming a high priest, but was glorified by the One who said to him: “You are my son; today I have become your father.”
-- John 5:24 Jesus said: Most truly I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes the One who sent me has everlasting life, and he does not come into judgment but has passed over from death to life.
Amen ❤
Amen
Though John referred to Jesus as the word of life that was from the beginning Jesus was a being and person from that beginning.
Then God said, "Let us make mankind in OUR image, in OUR likeness
John is still referring to Jesus the Son of Man as the word of life and in Jesus is life
and that life was the light of the world. The eternal life from the beginning
That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked at and our hands have touched--this we proclaim concerning the Word of life.The life appeared; we have seen it and testify to it, and we proclaim to you the eternal life, which was with the Father and has appeared to us
In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome a it.
Logos --- Do you understand? Are you understood? It really is that simple and you can build on it. There's just no way to explain it until you know what it means and nobody knows what to do until that happens for some reason. Logos is a crazy thing. Its not supposed to be.
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My beloved indeed the Child and many FEETS like YESHUA Jesus christ. Remember can command Angels my beloved! Indeed made just tiny bit lower than the Angels but this "TINY BIT" CAN COMMAND ANGELS TRULY MY BELOVED. IS LIKE REMEMBER Indeed you are worth more than anything nor everything that exists! MEANING HEIRS. For all things that exists God made just for thee! Love you pop! Nothing is wasted but will increase. TRUTH AND PEACE REUNITES. FATHER GOD THY TRUE WILL BE DONE. LIFE GIVEN AND LIFE KEPT INDEED.
1 corinthians 15:23 NLT
23 But there is an order to this resurrection: Christ was raised as the first of the harvest; then all who belong to Christ will be raised when he comes back.
24 After that the end will come, when he will turn the Kingdom over to God the Father, having destroyed every ruler and authority and power. 25 For Christ must reign until he humbles all his enemies beneath his feet. 26 And the last enemy to be destroyed is death. 27 For the Scriptures say, “God has put all things under his authority.”[e] (Of course, when it says “all things are under his authority,” that does not include God himself, who gave Christ his authority.) 28 Then, when all things are under his authority, the Son will put himself under God’s authority, so that God, who gave his Son authority over all things, will be utterly supreme over everything everywhere.
I really enjoy Piper's style of teaching and preaching. I also agree with most of his message except at 28:54 where he states, "Jesus was there as the Son of God." No, he was there as God or as his spoken word. At 37:27 Piper also states that "John 1:1 is why the Church believes in a Trinity." The truth is John 1:1 does not teach a Trinity. The Holy Spirit is not even mentioned. The Apostle John is describing how God's creative word (in the beginning) became flesh.
so approvedofGod you dont really agree with PIIPER AT ALL THEN, DO YOU?
Amen man of God
According to the New International Dictionary of the New Testament the word translated “with” (pros) in the phrase “the word was with God” in John 1.1b “does not imply any movement or action on the part of the Logos. Support for this view may be found in the NT parallels where pros with the acc. often following the verb einai denotes not the linear motion but punctiliar [i.e. not moving] rest (Matt. 26.18, 55 vl.; Mk. 6.3 (=Matt. 13.56); 9.19 (=Lk. 9.41 but Matt. 17.17 has meth’ hymon); 14.49; 1Cor 16.6f.; 2Cor 5.8; 11.9; Gal 1.18; 4.18, 20; Phil 1.26; 1Thess 3.4; 2Thess 2.5; 3.10; Phlm 13; Heb 4.13; 1Jn 1.2)”
Therefore, John is not talking about one person next to (“with,” PARA) another, in this case God.
“Elsewhere John uses para tini to express the proximity of one person to another (Jn. 1.39; 4.40; 8.38; 14.17, 23, 25; 19.25; cf. 14.23; note also meta tinos in Jn. 3.22, 25 f. etc.) or the nearness of the Son to the Father (Jn 8.38; 17.5), never pros tina” (Brown, NIDNT, p 1204-1205).
In the rest of the NT pros ton theon (“with God”) is never used to mean a person “with God”!
* Heb 2:17 “things with God”;
* Acts 24:16 “conscience with God”;
* Rom 5:1 “peace with God”;
* 2Cor 3:4; 1 John 3:21 “confidence with God”;
* 1Thess 1:8 “faith with God.”
Perhaps John refers to Jesus as the “Word of God” because Jesus was the one speaking throughout the Old Testament... (eg: all things were made “through” Jesus because it was Jesus speaking the creation commands to the universe.)
As my video series on Jesus deity points out, the Jewish Targums list “the Word” as God himself. John knew this.
Of course Jesus is God, however it is typically understood that the person of the Trinity speaking in the OT is God the Father - not God the Son.
@@tyb2526 Jesus is The Word who became flesh. John used the term "Logos" because The Word is not just related to verbal Words but also to God's Logic and Wisdom. John 8:42 says that Jesus is proceeded forth and from God. Meaning that He is in God. Just like your mind and words proceeded from you. He is The Word in which God created all things through. He came down to our level and became flesh. He is The Eternal Living Word and Wisdom of God, He is the only Manifestation of God in human flesh just like your comment here manifests you, even when i don't see you in person, The Logos manifested God in human flesh so you can see God. He died for us and raised from the dead on the third day.
Quote JOHN PIPER
"God . . . brings about all things in accordance with his will. In other words, it isn’t just that God manages to turn the evil aspects of our world to good for those who love him; it is rather that he himself brings about these evil aspects for his glory (see Ex. 9:13-16; John 9:3) and his people’s good (see Heb. 12:3-11; James 1:2-4). This includes-as incredible and as unacceptable as it may currently seem-God’s having even brought about the Nazis’ brutality at Birkenau and Auschwitz as well as the terrible killings of Dennis Rader and even the sexual abuse of a young child . . .
Quote to JOHN PIPER from the Word of God!
I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel- 7 which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! 9 As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse! Galatians 1:6-9
Truth in Love
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The only God mentioned at John 1:1 is Jesus Christ's God. There's just no escaping that fact since there is only one God and his God is that God.
Actually, Grand Delusion you agree that 'God was the Word', but you stop and do not continue that in the Interlinear translation verse 2 records 'He was in the beginning with the God' showing that houtos 'this, he, she, it' was in the beginning with the God' was not the God who was with him. The fact that the Logos created means that the LOGOS is to be worshipped and served more than that which the LOGOS created as is the message of Romans 1:25. That the heavens were not created by God's spoken word as Psalm 33:6 could be thought is that you, Grand Delusion, attribute Hebrews 1:10 to the Father, God, and not Jesus, in which it says 'the heavens are the works of your hands', meaning God's hands: you cannot have it both ways God created the heavens by his spoken word, Psalm 33:6 and Genesis 1:7-9 as well as by God's hands!!!! Jesus taught in John 8:17-18 at God's instruction John 8:28, 12:49-50 that the Father, God of the Jews, is a man 'in your law' of the hearers, which is Scripture John 10:34-35, meaning God has a body with body parts, soul with passions, and a spirit of man (called the Holy Spirit of God) even as even Jesus HAD HIS OWN body, soul, and spirit of man, the Spirit of Jesus, not the Spirit of God which no man would have as his spirit of man, and as you like to say Jesus was a man 'in all things' Hebrews 2:17.
Grand Delusion: During Jesus' earthly life, he was under the Old Testament Ten Commandment covenant exodus 34:28, Jesus was a man, Philippians 2:6-8, but under the New Testament, which Jesus went about establishing while he was man in the flesh Hebrews 10:9, Jesus was given equal honor to the Father: given, not his own, equal honor includes equal worship since one wAy to honor the Father is to worship him John 5:23 'that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father' NIV. would God allow any man to receive honor as God, sitting beside Him as Jesus is, if he had not already been God before Jesus was mortal man? Jesus is now God, an object of worship 'god'
Leonard Bunt Was Jesus created?
I know this man is SUPER DUPER holy ‘cause he has spectacular, theatrical & grandiose gesticulations on his thumbnail pictures. It is all about the pose.
superficiality
On the contrary, is it all about the heart, not the pose. Pray you will listen and see the Son Of God for all mankind, the Light of the World come into darkness, Prince of Peace, Messiah, Redeemer. Anyone who calls on his name and genuinely repents, will see God… God is gracious, in that he uses such men, as John Piper, in their own uniquely created personalities (he may come across as eccentric to some) - he is merely passionate. You cannot neither watch him, let alone listen to him (without watching) and not hear and see his passionate expression to magnify Christ. Your statement, is one of judgement of the outward man. God judges the heart. Yours and mine. Jesus is the way, the truth, the life - no one comes to the father except through him; a free and gracious gift from God, so that no man may boast of his own “good works.” We are saved by God’s grace alone, through faith in Christ’s life, death, resurrection alone. In all sincerity, peace to you.
John Piper means what He says. The message is true. God loves you. God has a plan for you and me and sent His son to save us from our sin. Praise God for such love for me, a sinner. My prayer is for you to really hear and see our great God. HALLELUJAH! What a.Savior!
How can you base a 'fundamental doctrine' on ONE verse in the bible when so many OTHER verses, even those close to this one, say the OPPOSITE? Just read John 1:14, 18, John 5:30, John 6:29, John 8:26, John 14:28, John 20:17. Then John sums up the entire gospel this way "These things have been written that you may believe that Jesus Christ is the SON OF GOD" John 20:31. Thus some scholars are correct to examine what was really meant at John 1:1!
It is wrong for this minister to teach a works salvation by saying that the Believer must continue to believe when Eph 1:13 shows that when one believed(past tense) they were SEALED(past tense) with that Holy Spirit of promise. Salvation happens instantaneously when one BELIEVES !! See Psa 57;7 where David said, "My heart is Fixed" . Jesus' sheep will never perish.
What do you mean? It’s not works to remain a believer. If someone doesn’t remain a believer then their faith was in vain and never was truly saved to begin with. 1 John 2:19 “They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.”
@@seansimpson1133 I agree that some are not true believers but only God knows who they are. (II Tim 2:19) so you cannot judge others ,( John 7: 1) The problem with teaching that works are a part of being saved is that one cannot do ENOUGH works to go to Heaven so if you don't make it on the righteousness that He gives you at conversion ( II Cor 5:21) then you won't make it (Rom 3:20-23)
@@lonniesatterfield1770 I agree on the works issue. No one can be saved by works but it sounds like you’re saying for a person to “stay believing” in order to be saved is works which is super illogical. And 2 Timothy 2:16 doesn’t say only God knows who are his it just states that he knows who are his. And if only God can know who are his then why does John clearly state in his epistle how you can know whether someone is a believer or not? And why does John himself state that he knows that those that went out from them are not of them if only God knows? Not trying to sound harsh but to say you can become a full blown atheist and still be saved because of some profession you once made is ridiculous.
@@seansimpson1133 Believe what you will - I told you enough already to state my beliefs on the subject.( Prov 4:7)
Jesus his the Father that we see (God in flesh)
WE CANT SEE GOD, no one can
Yes you can, through Jesus. Are you daft? That's the main idea that separates Christianity from Judaism: The Incarnation. Jesus Christ is the incarnation (made-flesh) of the Logos (The Word, the "intelligible structure" of the world created by God)
"The Word was with God, and the word was God"
Jesus is the Word and the Word is God. The whole idea of the trinity hinges on this; Jesus and God are consubstantial, the same thing. YOU CAN SEE GOD THROUGH JESUS. amen.
The reason Jesus was crucified was because he claimed to be consubstantial with God. Jews believed this was heresy because, as you seem to believe, one can never see God. Jesus proved otherwise; this is the essence of the doctrine.
Jesus is Lord.....and he is the incarnated Word of the Lord....
Jesus is not The Father, He is The Eternal Living Word of God that belongs In God and was Proceeded forth and from God to became flesh. He is The Word (Logos), Word and Logic and Wisdom of God, just like your word and thoughts represent you. He was with God from the beginning, uncreated and eternal. Came down and died in His humanity to save us. He is The Word not the father. Just like your word is from you but you can distinctify it from your body for it's not your body nor it's your spirit.
@@wouspor1804 lol who created all thing in the beginning BY IS WORD ? Here is THE BIBLICAL ANSWER: Gen.1:3 And God said (God word here) “Let there be light,” and there was light.
This is Elohim-Yahweh creating all things BY IS WORD not by another person call the second person of a trinity of three different gods ..... This is not the God of the bible , the true God it's Yahweh and HE BECAME FLESH 1Tim.3:16 God is Spirit and we worship in Spirit and truth ALWAYS as ONE and never as three different beings The Jews never worship your false three gods and it's the first commandment. God never say I AM THREE but always say I AM ...ONE and I created all things ALONE !
Isaiah 44:24 "Thus saith the Lord, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, ""I AM"" the Lord that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens ""ALONE""; that spreadeth abroad the earth by ""MYSELF""
..... Since when the word ALONE and MYSELF mean many ?????????????? And who is THE REDEEMER HERE ? THE FATHER this is why Jesus is also the Redeemer being God the Father in flesh. Not two but one redeemer not two but one Lord not three but one God. This is the biblical pure teaching. Sola scriptura.
Yeshua, the only-begotten son of Elohim. The Son of God, not 'God the Son' of Constantine Church.
What's a constantine church?
Y I am 😁😁😁😁😁..
There is no bible verse that proves that God created matter not one
Thomas Smallwood
Colossians 1:16
For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him.
Rochelle Walker , there is no bible chapter and verse that shows that God did not created matter, colossians 1:16 that you use was not even speaking about the creation in Genesis 1
I meant to say, there is no scripture that proves that God created matter
Thomas Smallwood Try the book of Job chapters 38-40
@@thomassmallwood6920 In the beginning (time) God created the Heavens (space) and the Earth (Matter). Genesis 1.1 😊👍🏾
Jesus is the Son of God.
We are sons of God.
Therefore Jesus is OUR BROTHER, NOT OUR GOD.
Christ was made, but his deity is eternal, the man Jesus was God with us as a man, he was not God with us as God, Jesus is the the one tru God the Father incarnate
Everything was made through Christ and nothing was made without Him that was made. He is not one of the things made, because He would have to have been made through Himself,... impossible. So He is in the category of things not made.
@@Hepta.Asteras really, nobody can deny that Jesus was made, he was flesh , like I said Jesus is the Father incarnate, the man Jesus is not eternal, but his spirit is the Father YHWH
@@TWODEEP25 Jesus was part of the human creation, He was a genuine human and had flesh (without sin) and blood. He was begotten as the firstborn of all creation in resurrection and will live forever and ever as a Man, yet He is also God, the Alpha and the Omega.
@@Hepta.Asteras thank you, that's what I'm saying
@@TWODEEP25 But I do believe He is Triune. One God, three Persons who are distinct but inseparable. Coexisting and mutually indwelling each other from eternity past to eternity future.
Utterly confused 🤷♀️
Vahid M why are you
Some people have a way of describing scriptures with simplicity and some can make it hard to understand
Sad very sad.
The inspired Word of GOD is from Genesis to Malachi it's scripture. This John was John the baptist, a hebrew Israelite a 1st century Jew. He died in around 96AD late 1st century. Look at "WORD" in the the first verse of John 1, mentioned 3 times in the greek it means Logos which means "something said,"thought","Idea", "plan","divine expression" so when Yahshua(Jesus) walked this earth as a MAN He was the manifestation of what The Creator(GOD) spoke. The way Yahshua(Jesus) was in the beginning is that He was prophesied in the Torah(Law), the Prophets and Psalms. All the credit goes to YAH THE CREATOR, Yahshua(Jesus) was a vessel to carry out the WORD....
It's John the Beloved !!!
it is indeed John the beloved and the manner in which John used logos was the same one Aristotle used meaning the completeness of thought , of intent, or of planning such as prophecy . It included the concept of "hope" and "dreams" of our current culture.
So the holy spirit is going to respond to this guy?
why?
Iglesia ni Cristo 1914 denies the deity of Christ and the trinity, they said in John 1:1 the Word is a purpose or plan of God.
Folks! John wrote his gospel ( inc the 'Word') YEARS AFTER the three other gospels & the epistles ( not John' s yet) were already in circulation! Thus Jude said 40 years BEFORE John's gospel "The Faith was delivered ONCE FOR ALL TIME to the Holy ones" Jude 3. Thus the fact that John called Jesus the 'Word' is NOT an essential ingredient for faith!
Its rather strange that John writes that ''the word was God'', in the gospel, but in his first epistle he writes, ''He who confesses that Jesus Christ came in the flesh, he is from God''. We have to remember that John is identifying Jesus..... as the Christ. The word Christ in the Greek, is in the Hebrew, Messiah. In the list of names of our great God, you will never find....Messiah. Therefore, we misinterpret the biblical narrative if we think that God came in the flesh.
❤The best way that a man can do now is just believe what is written in the Bible because that is God's Love letter to us. Consider all that what is written there is no contradiction. Every thing has its spiritual meaning. We just have to set our attention on these two: the Father and the Son , the same as God and the Spirit of God, ...
Have you not read John 1:1-14?
Boy, that didn't take long.
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"And the word was God" is the most illiterate translation of Greek EVER. What it actually reads as in Greek is, "And [with] God was the word". It's part of a simple ellipsis, sandwich between the identical phrase before and after so no one would get it twisted - unless they read a polytheist translation.
In the Interlinear translation John 1:1's 'and the Word was God' actually reads there 'and God was the word'. But it goes on to say about the Logos, the Word, 'He was in the beginning with the God'. So that the God that was 'in the beginning' with God was not the same God that was with God. Before the Ten Commandments there were two Gods, and in the New Testament there are two Gods but in the New Testament they are called 'life eternal' John 17:3 and 1st Corinthians 8:6's 'one God'. Jesus explains that these two Gods to be under the New Testament, co-equal in honor, worship John 5:23, have each their own body with body parts, souls with passions, and spirit of man as 'men' are identified 'in our law', the law of the hearers, which are the Scriptures, according to John 10:34-35, John 8:17-18 since the Father, God of the Hebrews John 8:54, taught John 8:28 and commanded John 12:49-50 Jesus what to say. Therefore the Spirit of God should not be confused with the Spirit of Jesus, Jesus' spirit of man who returned to God who gave it to him, and every man, his spirit of man, and by which as is the case with every man the man is presented to God 'for ALL LIVE UNTO HIM' Luke 20:38 by his spirit which for Jesus, and every man, would not be the Holy Spirit of God Hebrews 9:14, Revelation 6:9-11as Jesus was 'in all things' a man even was he 'tempted in all points as we' Hebrews 2:17, 4:15 even 'drawn away of his own lust and enticed' as is every man when he is tempted JAMES 1:13-14. Enough for now. Thank you.
In the beginning was the Word,
and the Word was with God,
and the Word was God.
2He was with God in the beginning.
You disagree with Greek scholars, and you are wrong.
"And [with] God was the word"
The Greek has the order of words: And God was the word
The subject of the sentence is "the word" the verb is "was"
The predicate is "God" so we write in English " the Word was God"
that's weird since the church fathers who some of them were greek understood the verse as Jesus is the Word of God and He is God. But let's listen to Elcinehefe's interpretation about the verse instead of what the church fathers who were taught by the apostles themselves about who Jesus is.
To: @ElCineFlefe. Yes the verse does say that the Word was WITH God but the verse also says that the Word WAS God. For a person to deny the Deity of Jesus( The Word ) is to deny the Trinity and fail to really know the God of the Bible!
Please read this properly, not what the church has taught you.
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him (last body God) and without him was not any thing made that was made.In him was life; and the life was the light of men And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. The same came (the same who sent, God) for a witness, to bear witness of the Light (God came to be a witness of a Light)
that all men through him (Light) might believe.( believe what?)
He (Light) was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light That was the true Light
(Jesus represents the Light to bear witness of the True light, God. Remember we need two to bear witness to one)
which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. He (the True Light ) was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. He came unto his own, and his own received him not. despised and rejected. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
(If you remove the bracketed script which talkes about Gods glory which is seen in Jesus, you will see grace and truth, and just like became flesh and dwelt with us, we have two different time frames, we were always under grace until we receive Him through baptism)
(When did the word become flesh? In the beginning. When did he dwell with us? During baptism)
John bare witness of him (second witness to the True Light, the Father dwelling in Jesus), and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me. And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace. For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. ( As the Spirit that dwells in Him)
No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
(Jesus came to declare the Father so we may believe. John 17)
The bible is a Father Son relationship.... we are His Children, and God dwells in you.... you are gods who can look upon yourself and judge what is good or not. Jesus taught us how to connect to the Father and know how He would help you make that judgement. Only God is good, He is the only one we look up to as a child looks up to his father, yet even your earthy father is not your father, for we only have one... who art in Heaven.
Jesus is Heaven on Earth, What I wrote came from no church, especially not from the Universal Life church. It was my own inspired understanding, and I was sent the video by my brother who didn’t believe me and now believes I might be right. Why do you think Paul wrote Jesus has a God, Jesus said he had a God when he was on earth and in heaven, does that make sense? Does God have a God? Why do think the Lord’s prayer is only to the Father? YHVH was called our Father in the Old Testament, only our God can be our Father because is our creator, Jesus said, call no man, while he was on earth your Father for there is one Father in heaven. That proves to me Jesus is not our God. Also he is joint heirs with us to God, we would be heirs to him if he is God. Why do you think he told the Samaritan woman salvation was of the Jews and they knew what they worshipped? Do you think they worship a trinity? Why do you think Paul wrote worshipped and served the God of his fathers? He was Jewish, and he said to us there is one God the Father, no mention of God’s Holy Spirit Or Jesus being that one God. But thank you for your work, but I will keep believing what I wrote is true.
@@johntheuniversallifist9139 I made an error in my commentary of John 1, so I corrected it.
You are right to believe what you believe, the bible is Gods letter to you.
When we study it for ourselves we see the Light, not the veil that is taught by the church.... it's time it was lifted and to allow the Light to shine.
@@johntheuniversallifist9139 Jesus was both God and Man. As God He is the Alpha and Omega, the Almighty. As a Man He was perfect and had a proper human life, as such God was His God.
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I answer you, that Jesus had a preexistence,
He was the true witness, the beginning of the creation of God, which tells me he was the first being God created. A spirit like God himself, that is why he is the image of God and was in the form of God before he came to earth.
Some believers say Jesus was saying he was the I AM, was he?
Exo 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. KJV
Jhn 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. KJV Jhn 8:58 Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.” NKJV
Jhn 8:58 “Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!” NIV
Notice in older Bibles like the KJV and in newer translations like the NIV the "am" is not capitalized in "I am" in Jhn 8:58, if the translators thought Jesus was saying he was the " I AM", as in the Old Testament they would have capitalized all three letters. Newer Bibles like the NIV have added (born) after "was" in that verse, so if the verse reads, before Abraham was born, I am, it's obvious Jesus was not saying he was the I AM. It would be like saying before Abraham was born, YHVH. Jesus is only saying he had a pre-existence,
and to the Jews that accused him of having a demon in him , that makes them think they were right, so they picked up stones to stone him.
Mic 5:2 confirms Jesus had a pre-existence, but Mic 5:4 tells us it was not as YHVH, that is his God. Also if Jesus said he was the I Am, his accusers would have brought that up over and over, but they didn't and sought false witnesses against him to try and prove he blasphemed, even at the crucifixion nobody said Jesus claimed he was God or the I AM, only he said he was the chosen of God.
They mock Jesus not as God but as a King.
Jhn 8:48 The Jews answered him, “Aren’t we right in saying that you are a Samaritan and demon-possessed?” Jesus was sent to be God's sacrifice, he had to make them mad enough to have him killed. God commanded him what to say in order to accomplish this,
Deu 18:18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. (God is not going to put words in his own mouth and command himself).
Jhn 14:24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.(if not his own words then who's if he is God?)
1Jo 4:10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins. (Propitiation, means appeaser. How is Jesus not needing appeasing himself if he is God?)
Eph 5:2 And walk in love, as Christ also has loved us and given Himself for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweet-smelling aroma. (Is he offering himself to himself?)
Mat 26:59 Now the chief priests, and elders, and all the council, sought false witness against Jesus, to put him to death;
Mat 26:60 But found none: yea, though many false witnesses came, yet found they none. At the last came two false witnesses, (Why would they need false witnesses if Jesus claimed to be the I AM? Wouldn't that have been enough to prove blaspheme?)
Luk 23:35 And the people stood beholding. And the rulers also with them derided him, saying, He saved others; let him save himself, if he be Christ, the chosen of God. (Funny nobody at the cross seems to think Jesus was saying he was God).
@@johntheuniversallifist9139 At the end of of Revelation John was ready to worship Jesus. He was clear that it is OK to worship Jesus as God. When I have fellowship with Jesus and worship Him, He witnesses in my spirit that He is worthy to be worshipped as God. There is no way Jesus Christ could be in us if He was not God.
That is man made 100%NOT GODS WORD
What blasphemy.
Living proof that someone can say the correct terminology but have no clue what it means because he has no understanding of the Hebrew Principle of Agency whereby an anointed principle agent of GOD, be they angelic or human, not only spoke for GOD but were legitimately considered to be GOD with all power and authority to carry out GOD's will for His creation and outside of Yahushua Ha Mashiach, Jesus THE Christ, Moses is the greatest example of this principle of agency as he was made GOD's representative unto Pharaoh and through whom GOD did many signs and wonders to prove to Pharaoh and the people that there was indeed a GOD in the heavens..
GOD has always used His creation to further His purposes beginning with Lucifer right down to even us today but Yahushua Ha Mashiach is GOD's Ultimate Principle HUMAN Agent Representative, the promised " seed of the woman " of Genesis 3:15 and a seed can only reproduce after it's kind according to Genesis 1:12.
John IS NOT going to contradict what both Matthew and Luke have previously written concerning Yahushua's human heritage as Matthew provides Yahushua's GENESIS and presents Yahushua Ha Mashiach as the son of David and the son of Abraham and uses the word" beget " which means to father, to procreate, to have a beginning, to bring into existence. It DOES NOT say GOD the Son.
Luke reveals the miraculous creation of Yahushua in the womb of Mary by the power of GOD's creative ruach Spirit FOR WHICH he was called the son of the Most High. The passage does not say an incarnation of any sort.
He goes on to reveal Yahushua's actual GENEOLOGY in Luke 3, from Yahushua back to the first Adam who was also called the son of GOD by a similar act of creation so either Adam was GOD in the flesh or Yahushua is a human being only.
The word "word " in John's Gospel is the word logos and this word is Strong's 3056 which means; a spoken intention, a spoken promise, a spoken plan or simply a spoken word. It has NO reference to a being be they angelic or human. The " w " SHOULD NOT be capitalized because in the GREEK, every letter is capitalized.
NO WHERE else in the whole of Scriptures is the w capitalized in the Scriptures until you get to Revelation's where it is all capitalized BUT this time it is used of the post resurrected exalted and glorified Yahushua who returns as GOD's anointed King of kings and Lord of lords who will fully manifest GOD's character to the world. This same word logos, is used by Yahushua himself in John's Gospel and only refers to the spoken word of GOD concerning the promises and plans of GOD.
John 1:14 is simply GOD keeping His word of promise in forming the child in the womb of Mary as the seed of the woman promise of Genesis 3:15. Nothing more.
John 1:1-1:3 is speaking about GOD's spoken plan. GOD's word is who GOD is, His word was who He was and the fulfilling of His word in John 1:14 proves that what GOD promises, He fulfills and that He can be trusted just like when we give and keep our word or not tells people whether we're trustworthy or not and since we are created in the image and likeness of GOD, the same principle applies because GOD first set this principle in order.
It is a historical fact that before the corrupt KJV interpretation, every English translation used the word " it " after John 1:2 in conjunction with Matthew 1 and Luke 1:35 and Luke 3.
That GOD has spoken unto us IN THESE LAST DAYS by His son clearly states that Yahushua DID NOT pre-exist before his being brought into the world as the child of Mary. And since whoever wrote the Book of Hebrew's was not that far removed from the time Yahushua walked on this earth, he can say " in these last days." and the Hebrews he was writing to understood exactly what he meant.
The Hebrew's were strictly MONOTHEISTIC and believed that GOD was a single being only and NOT a triune godhead.
In Mark 12:28-35, when asked by the scribe what was the greatest of all the commandments, Yahushua replies by quoting the Shema of Israel of Deuteronomy 6:4 and includes himself with the use of the word OUR; " Hear of Israel, Yahuwah our GOD is One Yahuwah... NO WHERE in this passage does he say and Oh by the way, I'm the second person of this triune GOD. The scribe acknowledges that Yahushua had spoken the truth in that GOD is ONE and that there was NONE else like or besides Him for which Yahushua tells him that he was not far from the Kingdom of GOD for what he believed.
Thomas actually says; " My GODLY Lord." and NOT my Lord and my GOD. That is a deliberate translation bias.
The word " incarnation " IS NOT IN the Scriptures so Mr. Piper's theology is Platonically fatally flawed and does despite to the truth of GOD's word and isn't trust worthy to preach the scriptures.
To most people the trinity is a confusing mystery as Mr. Piper states and he's right and if it is a mystery, then it HAS NOT been revealed because while the secret things belong to GOD, everything we need to know to understand the Scriptures, HAS BEEN revealed to us so Mr. Piper can't stop shooting himself in the foot as he try's to justify something that has never been revealed by GOD to man because it doesn't exist in the first place.
GOD, IS NOT, the author of confusion either.
Jn. 17:5 And now, Father, glorify Me in Your presence with the glory I had with You before the world existed.