**CORRECTION IN THE JETER CASE*** Kelsey was the girl who passed away. Kiersten tried to save her sister but.... 31:08- we will just ignore whatever word I made up...
I personally wont have children. And that's because I don't care for kids, I don't have any interest and definitely don't think I could give them the love they deserve. I wouldn't take care of a kid. I wish all people thought about it before they had kids
What I found so disturbing was her calmness and coldness, she should have got the death penalty for what she did to her two daughters in that abandoned house, that was pre meditated, she is not like Otty who was mentally ill
Awesome remix. I did see all of your previous work and it was good work, but the remix does give it more depth of perception. Carry on dude! Can not wait for more.
@@chellyw63 yes! My stomach turned every time she spoke to her surviving daughter "what baby?"... Like, you just killed her sister and stabbed her multiple times, now you're talking to her like nothing is wrong? Just so twisted. I agree, she just wanted to hurt people, death penalty is it for me.
My prayers go out to Audi. Who’s got the mental issues going on but what’s really disturbing is how her sister and mother were so quick to give that baby back knowing that his mother was trying to find help. I would say the fault would be theirs as well because they didn’t help her to find the help that she needed, and the thought of them releasing the baby back to her knowing she’s going through that puts them liable and responsible for these babies death. Knowing how unstable OTTY was they handed him back to her that’s definitely something they gotta live with and then as she finally calm down listen to it the sister says her as if nothing happened. I don’t know somethings fishy about that nonetheless rest in peace to the baby, and I hope that this experience will get many more mental patients to help that they need.
I’ve been a psych professional for over 2 decades. Postpartum psychosis is so scary. If they say “I want to hurt my baby”, they mean it. They’re letting you know to take the baby or get the baby placed. Get the mom inpatient treatment ASAP. Usually it clears within a few months, but this woman was high-risk due to a chronic psychotic disorder. The medical system and family failed her.
Screw that, I would NEVER "clear someone" who EVER says something like that!! THAT'S EXACTLY what's wrong with this shit! Y'all and CPS thinking these people change!
People do change unlikely more often in mental cases but not impossible and just because one bad seed you can't lock down everyone. It's the world we're in
@@McGMumof3Yall don’t realize just how badly pregnancy and birth fucks people up. There are multiple cases like this BECAUSE of several factors associated with hormone imbalance, environmental factors and general ignorance about mental health. Women who are ignored about their mental state with children can and unfortunately sometimes do have cases like this.
Most definitely. Not all people should have children, which is why it annoys me when people try to push others to have them when informed that that person doesn't want to have children.
@@GBR-cj6fj it's okay, there's humor in everything, they simply laughed at that little exchange taken out of context, I'm sure they still respect what's actually going on in the vid
yeah fr and the pure shock when she heard the first phrase.. but she still managed to calm herself down almost immediately a hero and a real professional
911 operators don't get enough credit... Staying calm under these horrific situations along with instructing the callers on what to do or trying to keep these monsters calm is amazing!
Hi, so I’m going to kindly direct you to call 5 as to my rebutle towards you. 9/10 dispatchers are incompetent people only half listening because they don’t really care about the situation at hand, just the check. If they do mental evaluations on dispatchers prior to hiring, they really need to stop brushing over the big bold capitalized 4 letter acronym: ADHD. This is some incompetent asshole on the internet and thank you for checking out my TED talk.
You got to keep in mind, she asked to be admitted into a mental hospital, they denied her, and she tried to give her sister the baby to protect him, yet he was returned. The people involved werent that helpful.
Exactly and some of these comments are so closed-minded. It shows that these people don’t have any mental Illnesses & criticize the people who suffer from them.
The sister had experienced her episodes before and saw them being non violent, in her mind her sister just needed to hand the baby off for a bit while she got a hold of herself, after handing the baby back to the mother the episode resumed and the voices told her the sister was dead there by convincing her that she couldn't give the baby back. It's unclear how aware the sister was of what these episodes consisted of, she likely underestimated the severity of the situation, believing that her sister(the mother) would never hurt the baby because in her mind she could never hurt anyone, the sister isn't to blame, sometimes it's just harder to see the full picture when you're that close to things.
@nexialist sometimes there is not enough room in the hospital and patients lie about the severity of their illness. She probably was referred to another facility and never went. Hospitals dont just turn people away on a whim they have a whole protocol. Yall are quick to attack the ones actually doing something while yall arent helping anyone at all ever.
Chai'el Ma'etheius I don't think that's right. Mental illnesses are real and while pills and other meds don't always work, they're better than no treatment. Conspiracy theories like the one you decided to add to this conversation aren't helping anyone. Conspiracy theories, in fact, are making everything worse and adding to the stigma that comes with mental illness. I know you probably think that you're helping and that you know some secrets, but you're really not.
I've always had mental health issues. My mother and I made a pact early on in my first pregnancy. If I felt or thought I'd hurt my baby, call her immediately, and she would come get him until I could get help. I had postpartum depression with my first. She was 45 minutes away and made it there in 20. Thank you Mom.
I was also wondering the same. Are you and your children fine now? And God bless your amazing Mother! I myself have been struggling with anxiety as long as I can remember. I was diagnosed with anxiety and depressions in my early 20s. Later I was diagnosed with ADD. This is a major reason as to why I have no children. I didn't want to pass that on to innocent children.
I’m so glad your mom could help! My postpartum depression was pretty bad, I told my mom I needed help and wanted her to watch him while I went the docs to see if I could get some treatment options and she told me I was selfish and didn’t care about my kid, then she tried to put him up for adoption. I got on meds and left the house and I’ve been fine since. I had friends help me so I wasn’t alone with my kid during that time either just because I had heard so many horror stories of PPD moms hurting their kids.
@@nocturnaljoe9543 I mean the police get the body they have to clean the blood tho so if they imagine it’s paint hopefully it’s less painful and traumatising
@Florian shes giving them minimal info, wtf you mean incompetence? They saved the child's life. I'd like to see how you react to that sort of situation.
Call number 2, with Debra, just made me feel so angry. She stabs her 2 children to death, but one’s still alive, so she became annoyed and irritated and almost bratty that the police aren’t coming fast enough to save the little girl she just brutally stabbed!
People really need to start listening to mothers when they say something is wrong. It is insane how they just get dismissed when they are trying to seek help
living with a family member who is deranged for all her life/years, you only get that cautious the first few years... Because if she survived all those years it means she's okay... right? We know it's only one push away and she can snap but we don't know whether it will be tonight or tomorrow... so it's okay to have her hold her baby right? as someone who experienced living in such a home I kinda understand the situation.
Exactly. She was bringing the baby to her sister knowing she's a danger to her own child, and the sister thought it's okay because she's calmed down? Poor baby :(
The lady requested help, told she was going to kill the kid and professionals sent her home with the baby anyway the day before. The system failed her and that baby.
@@monicabolden8663 I think you are referring to the first story, these comments are about the call with the mother of the two girls and when the surviving daughter says something in the background she asks "what baby?" In a nonchalant way like she was just going on about a normal day and the kid had asked her something or said something and she didn't hear her. It was eerily calm.
Debra was not insane. Her entire dictation during the call was clear and calm, and she stated she didn’t want to get shot . That was premeditated murder
@thespclflash456 Taking them to an abandoned building to kill them is premedetation. The first one definately had schizophrenia but the second case she might have mental illness but she knew was she was doing because it was planned out , case number one wasn't like that.
@@Kdubz_Auto_HVAC Alright, let me make the basic argument that you obviously don't have the common sense to have thought of yourself. She ate the baby. She was EATING the BABY. In what world does a sane person do that?
@thespclflash456 it doesn't cause you to load your kids into a car after telling them you had a surprise, drive to a area you know is abandoned acting like normal, stab your daughters repeatability, and then call 911 perfectly calm to report what you did to get revenge on your ex. You obviously don't know what psychosis is...
Everyone failed otty. Her sister for giving the child back,the mental health system for rejecting her cry for help and sending her home when she begged them to keep her,and most of all America for making people have to pay for vital medication. Everyone should feel ashamed and now a child is dead and the woman that was failed so many times has to live with what she's done.
I believe it, I went to a free clinic I told them I was having anxiety really bad they said I would have to wait months for an appointment and that they probably wouldn't give me any medication. Good thing I wasnt suicidal. I just can't imagine if a person who was asked for help at the same clinic and got that answer.
The system failed Otty but she also failed herself by not staying on her meds. Her sister thought she was better. She had no idea that Otty would kill her child. She should not be blamed and will probably lives feeling guilty for the rest of her life. What worries me is that Otty may very well be released one day.
@@oliviawright8756 eh, just you. I'm diagnosed with severe depression and attempted suicide multiple times, the last time I did a couple years ago some healthcare workers showed up at the hospital to speak to me and they filled out paperwork so I can get free health insurance that I still have today. I don't have to pay for anything.
The fact it took so long to locate the house is my worst fear come true. Our house is located on a small backstreet off of the main street. There are only 4 houses back here and despite having a sign up saying our addresses are around the back routinely every delivery driver cannot find it and it takes 10 minutes and often walking out onto the main street to get them to find us. We had an emergency last year (it was much milder than we thought and my family member was fine thankfully) and luckily a neighbour heard the commotion and went out to signal the ambulance. But im terrified of one day something worse happening and no one being there to help them find us. I always tried to comfort myself thinking that emergency services would pay more attention to street signs than a delivery driver but hearing this series has reminded me how human these people are and mistakes are still possible to make especially in the dark when that sign isnt as visible
That's what happened to me once. I had very high pulse, and feared i would faint and called emergency services. Our House was the only one in the street, somewhere between two villages. We got the number 21, and all the other houses with the same street name were actually on an road opposite to us. I saw the emergency drive up and down the road in the distance while trying to remain calm while trying to describe the location of our house to them.
this is so sad. she really tried to tell EVERYONE that she was going to hurt herself or somebody else, and what was working for her was something she couldn’t afford. my heart breaks for everyone involved.
Yes. This could've been completely avoided if the healthcare system was better. I'm so sorry for everyone involved, I hope they all get the help they need.
The sister failed her nephew the fact she gave the baby back to her mental sister shows a lot. The sister didn’t want to be bothered all of them are to blame
I don't think she asked enough questions to get information. Move on to the next ask about the children..she just stopped after the name...could have done a bit better in my opinion.
@@hungrymothergoose well the mother wasn't giving much to work with, giving very vague directions and not a lot of info about herself or what was going on with the daughters, plus telling them to fucking get there like they were the ones who hurt her kids and not her.
Actually he did a correction and the one who tried to save her sister was the one that lived. She was unable to save her sister. Poor girl. I was surprised to hear that she willing went to visit her mom after her sentencing.
@@bliviously5484 I’m sure she had some horrific survivors guilt. I have an older sister and I couldn’t imagine how I’d feel if we were in a situation where she died and I lived. I’m sure she had guilt for a very long time, but I hope that she has been able to overcome that guilt, because NONE of it was her fault.
That poor lady on the phone trying to be quiet, hearing her ex unalive her was heartbreaking..I'll never understand how people do things like that verses moving on, and finding someone new..and the poor baby's, so heartbreaking..
The way these people are speaking so clearly on these 911 calls stating they just killed is so scary...its terrifying to know that human beings can do such evil even animals couldnt do this.
@@karenwhinesmore9347 not excusing her actions but trying to stop bleeding right after a serious psychotic episode due to severe stress or illusions (we have no clue what she was undergoing) would be quite hard. Not only is it hard for people in the medical field to do it under stress, but for your every day person to do it seems highly unlikely. And like medical professionals advise, you should call 911 and let the professionals who actually know what their doing deal with it. if she or any of us tried without any clue, we could likely injure said person even more. Again though, not excusing her actions
The way Debra spoke about killing her children and then how she called her half-dead daughter “baby” and said “hold on they’re coming” like she didn’t just try to kill her confuses tf out of me
I listen to a lot of these and the most frustrating and emotional things for me is that so many people ask for help only to be rejected. Don't blame them if you won't help them
the little twelve year old girl who jumped over her sister to save her life is the f**king bravest person ive ever heard of. That little girl deserves the world, rest in peace little angel, ive never met you but you have a special place in my heart, right next to your sister, love.
That is incredibly sad. She asked and begged everyone for help. Even handed her baby to her sister and TOLD her she was seeing things and the babies face was changing. Damn man.
@@UmatsuObossa the thing is when you’re like this you don’t really have a sense of what’s right or wrong, you’re not aware you’re doing anything bad until it’s over, so it’s not that she “listened” to the voices she just wasn’t aware *in the moment* that it was a bad thing bc it felt real and like it was what she was suppose to be doing. i hope this make sense :)
@@ginnybean838 Still...yes and no. I was on nitrous oxide for a dentist appt once, and I was definitely experiencing delusions, I felt like I had been in the dentist chair since the dawn of time and world be forever into the future as well, but even though I felt that way, I still also knew that wasn't actually right. Also in a fit of depression once I took a shitton of benedryl and was definitely getting weird delusions from that. I was talking to a friend and telling him I didn't know if I was even actually talking to him, or if what I was saying was gibberish or not. But when I sobered up, everything I'd thought I'd said, I'd actually said, and I'd never behaved irrationally the entire time. It could be something with my brain, maybe I'm extraordinarily grounded in reality or something. Everything I've ever done that has made others supposedly lose control of themselves, I never came close.
@@UmatsuObossa The thing is, when you’re being hounded by voices, when reality begins to change, your brain, especially when it is purely your brain that is doing this to you. When she was in her psychosis, she has no sense of anything but what her brain is doing to her- believing she has a demon/needs to get the demon out. It is clear that her psychosis took over and won, she was no longer herself and she’ll forever have to live with knowing she did it, even though it wasn’t entirely her fault.
@@UmatsuObossa Though we get where your coming from, but that was a one time thing for you. Otty was experiencing it constantly and she tried to get help for it but she couldn’t pay for it. Please be mindful and don’t compare your experiences to something so big when yours is so small. Your sane. She is not. Otty took drugs constantly, you took them for whatever reasons you needed them for.
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@@Cvollo yea but they didn't ask if her friend was ALIVE, they asked if her friend was "ok", like wtf do you mean of course she's not ok half of her face is being ripped off..
@@brooklynsizemore2372 the one that tried to save her sister lived?? I couldn’t tell from the video I just assumed the one that passed was the one that jumped in top. God I feel like I am forever scarred for watching this video because I can’t stop thinking about this. Can’t imagine how the survivor and her relatives feel. Truly evil.
Debra was very demanding considering what she just did to her daughters. It would be difficult for her to claim insanity considering how calm & collected she was.
My heart absolutely breaks for Otty. She did everything she could to get help and the doctors told her no, she didn’t need to be put on the unit, then her sister gave her back the baby even though she’d given Scotty to her several times and they all knew she was hearing voices and having hallucinations. Everyone who was supposed to help her failed, that just breaks my heart. You can only do so much to help yourself when you are so severely ill and your support system isn’t listening.
I agree with you 100%!! Just the fact alone that she ate the baby tells us, mental illness is at play here. Then you add all the people who failed her when she was trying to get her mind well again and it becomes something entirely different than other premeditated murders.
Exactly. Alot of ppl with mental illness never get the help they truly need. She wanted the help, she knew she was getting bad off but noone took her serious. I feel for her. Its so sad about her baby. If they would’ve listened to her then scotty may still be alive.
@@trickortrump3292 her saying she was gagging but the voices kept telling her to eat it breaks my heart. She was so sick and tried so hard to get help. I feel like guilt will eat her alive in her sane moments
Yeah lol I was thinking the same thing I clearly heard him say Daniel and she called him Pablo through the whole conversation and I'm willing to bet that that made it even easier for him to do what he wanted to do, like he felt like it was meant to be the bitch didn't even have his real name. You never know how people think but it just seemed to me like as soon as she started calling him Pablo and he went along with it, the deal was sealed and I knew he was going to shoot himself on that 911 call. He had already made up his mind and she made it easier by not even calling him Daniel which made it much more impersonal. Just my opinion but I just felt something change with him as soon as he just went along with Pablo instead of even attempting to correct her. These are all something else I have heard them but everytime I hear it again it's still shocks me and freaks me out. I know that that chimpanzee did bite that that woman's fingers off one by one, apparently fingers are as easy to bite through as a carrot! Crazy little fun fact for you LOL anyway yeah I definitely hear you Pablo and Daniel sound nothing alike LOL
@@DanaBongard I know and you know what I don't think it helped anything because as soon as he went along with it oh, it kind of seems like it's cemented what he was going to do he sounded like he became more confident in what she was doing and not trying to think with rational thought. It made it less personal and therefore easier for him to just do it. Little things like that that people don't always think about or in this case she didn't even realize but they really do matter.
@how to respond It was so scary the fact that I'm so scared she might attack the other one if she got the so pissed about it.. the way she speaks like.. it wasn't her children at all
@Madison Daily yes because she was very mentally ill and suffering, she needed very serious medical attention, and it just seemed like she did not get that. “poor otty” doesn’t mean forget the baby. the baby deserved to live and not get tortured and killed. it’s all more than f-ed up.
@Madison Daily because she was severely ill in a way that impacted her thinking and behaviour...acknowledging that she couldn’t help it doesn’t mean saying it was an ok thing to do.
I just don’t understand the family… if you KNEW she had mental illness and she said to you… take the baby…. Who are you to decide she’s ok to have the baby back smh this is sooooo beyond sad. This didn’t have to happen to the baby. I’m soooo sad
The fact that the sister gave the baby back to her mentally disturbed sister who had already said she was afraid she would hurt the baby and was hearing voices "after she calmed down" is just mind boggling. Poor Otty and poor baby. Such a horrific tragedy that never should have happened.
@@jasoncaldwell0613nobody’s saying it is, but if someone’s telling you they’re gonna hurt their baby cause of the voices in their head and is practically begging u to take the baby from them why on earth would you give it back to them?? she knew that otty had struggled w mental health issues too?? like this could’ve been avoided
@@jasoncaldwell0613It quite literally was her job. otty was put in the care of her sister, it was absolutely her sisters job to make sure she was going to be okay.
@@mwag8403 Please stop abusing the word: literally. From the sound of her sister, she was likely not competent to assume this responsibility. Unless you know otherwise and I doubt you do, her sister did not become her legal guardian. Please except the reality, that some people are not curable, and NEVER will be. Both the mother and the sister were too stupid to make the correct choice: tell CPS about her history, decline involvement and insist that the baby be adopted, immediately. That would have been both intelligent and responsible.
The mother in the second call doesn’t DESERVE to call her child “baby” Edit: everyone replying to me keeps thinking I’m talking about the first call, I’m talking about the second one. The one where the mother killed both her children in an abandoned house. Please reread before replying.
@@OUSTET The reason is because they’re trying to keep whoever is on the other end as calm as they can. It’s not that they have no emotions, it’s just they’re doing what they can to try to calm the situation. Most dispatchers need therapy because of all the things they are told about. They have emotions. They’re human, just like us.
Actually, the elder daughter tried to save her little sister but wasn't able to. The one who survived was the one who tried to save the other one. The whole 911 call was unbearable :(
Julio Rodriguez/ She said it in the most MONOTONE voice ever. Her statement afterwards proves how cold it is when she says something like "Get here quick one of them wants to live". It just makes the "I killed my children", as her first statement macabre
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I know Otty Sanchez as a friend and coworker. I do know she and her family repeatedly asked for help, made numerous trips to doctors and ERs. All in vain. To listen to people on a daily basis state that she should be killed, dragged in the streets, set on fire in the street and so on took a toll on all of us who knew her. She is in the state mental hospital and will not be released. Only her family can visit. She has to live with this. I know for a fact she loved Stephen with all her heart and would never under any normal circumstance EVER hurt him. She would have died to protect him. The health care system and doctors let her down at every turn. Thank you for realizing the truth.
@@Tsiri09 Yeah, she was telling them "I need to go to the mental hospital" But they didn't listen.. and when she couldn't afford the prescription, they should have tried to help her the best they could by paying for it or something.
Me too dude it makes me so sad and hate humans even more but yet I can't stop myself from listening. How does a mother/Friend/Lover even do this hanus crimes against their loved ones. Makes me sick to the stomach
I fall down these holes of listening to this stuff, worryingly often 😅 I guess it's the side of me drawn to morbid stuff like everyone else like ya know conspiracy theories a campfire tales. I think it is important to monitor your mental health through these though, that's absolutely vital-- people can be absolutely horrifying for sure.
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she spoke of them as objects.. " one is dead dead but the other one is alive and wants to be saved." THOSE ARE YOUR CHILDREN HOW COULD YOU!!!! omggg i'm so angryyyyyyyyy
@@nevoodles8210 she gave her baby to her sister because she was seeing things and that her baby's face was changing, and her sister literally just handed the baby back to her saying her that everything was okay and then the family went to sleep like nothing happened. her family ABSOLUTELY failed her.
I thought the title was like not true because youtubers do that often and now I- jdnskabg I’m traumatized.. How could she eat part of her baby I can’t even imagine
@@sasakimirai4318 what if you were taking care of a mentally Unstable person and their baby. This was a thing she would always do, she would get the baby when otty wasn’t feeling right but when otty calmed down she would get the baby back. On top of that Otty killed her baby, it wasn’t the sister or anyone else. Yes, she was not doing well mentally but she did kill her baby. Blaming anyone else for her actions doesn’t do anything.
That girl in the beginning is just so sad and sick. The woman was truly truly sick in her head and the hospital should have checked her in when she requested. She tried to save the baby and herself.
Yeah it was both of them the hospital majorly failed her. She requested to be checked in saying her babies face was changing. Why would you not check someone in if they say that?
@@avirose6 I know. They act like her sister is a therapist. She needed to be somewhere where people had eyes on her at all times. I'm sure the sister could only stay up so long before falling asleep.
Woman who has an extensive history of psychosis as well as suicidal and homicidal thoughts: Please admit me to the hospital. I am hearing voices telling me to kill my son, and he's not safe with me. Hospital: lol no you're fine Woman: Sister, please take my child. I am hearing voices telling me to kill him, and he's not safe with me. Sister: lol no you're fine Woman: *kills child* Everyone: OMG how could she?? No one saw this coming how did this happen? Why didn't she just reach out??? As someone who struggles with hallucinations and delusions as part of my mental health disorder this shit pisses me off so badly. Literally the first and last thing they teach you in any kind of mental health treatment is to reach out for help if you need it. How are people supposed to get help if it will fall on deaf ears? Of course the child is a victim and was severely wronged but in this situation the mother is just as much a victim. Not only does she have schizophrenia to deal with, but now she has to live with what she's done on top of a manslaughter charge when the situation could have been avoided so easily.
Ikr. Im kinda pissed to the sister, she should took the baby away and not let otty come back to the baby again. Otty said herself, and they clearly knows she is mentally unstable. I feel sorry to otty and the baby :(
As someone with psychosis, I agree. Sometimes illnesses like this are heavily influenced by our emotions. Turning that mother away constantly when she was begging for help, was a dick move. It's the same thing with suicidal people. Others ignore their cries for help, but once they take their life, then everyone makes a surprised pikachu face because they "didn't know what happened".
The first women should have never been allowed to take her baby home with her with that kind of severe mental illness. I can only imagine how regretful the sister is over sending the baby back to her bed that night. The second mother deserves the death penalty she planned this out to give her daughters a “surprise” just plan evil. Her being suicidal has nothing to do with her evil actions that day she said repeatedly she didn’t want to die please tell cops not to shot me...wow just wow!
Im pissed off at the sister, otty clearly didn't want her son next to her, yet they still forced her to look after him. They could of saved the baby yet they still gave him back to her
Just wanted to say I’m the 100th like completely agree that baby shouldn’t have gone back with otty at all the second one just makes me sick she doesn’t deserve a life the police shouldn’t have shown mercy they should have just shot
@@louisephillips5429 yea i get what ur saying but she probably didnt think she would kill her baby the baby was a newborn so thats probably why they tried to make her take the baby because a baby needs its mother especially a newborn
@@lewissabre um, what country do you live in? In America the police do not dispense justice nor ever plan to shoot anyone. It doesnt matter what was done. They are simply there to bring a suspect to custody. They arent even allowed to shoot you for running away if youre not armed. The only time they are supposed to shoot is *if you raise a gun*. So her request is as ignorant as your response. Justice is dispensed via the courts in the US.
The woman who found the abandoned baby in the trash showed a billion times more concern and love for that baby that wasn’t even hers than that monster Debra showed for her children ...
Ghosts, Satans and demons are everywhere. They will take advantage on weak ppl if they had a chance. Depression ppl have weak souls so dont ignore them. Suiciders are also get disturbed by Satans. When they hear things means their condition are getting worse. Dont ignore them until they have to kill somebody and Then you panick. These kinds of ppl need to be treated. If they ignored, their condition can be worsen. Their body need to be 'cleanse'. I know this because im a Muslim. Alhamdulillah 😇
Asian Female Ghosts? Satans? Demons I understand but there’s only one Satan, and ghosts aren’t evil they can be but they’re people that haven’t passed on to the afterlife.
Yeah listening to that part was like a breathe of fresh air after hearing about Debra's horrible killing. It's like I almost lost touch of the good people in the world. Its scary how people go insane and do things like this to other innocent people. Just imagining myself being a physco makes me feel disgusting
The second dispatcher is so good. The way the woman talks to her, saying "bitch" and other things, and the dispatcher immediately understands the case, is surprising. I would have said something like "try not killing your children first" when she started telling them to hurry up
You can toggle the 'subtitles' button on a youtube video (one of the tiny buttons on the right lower corner of the vid) and it will let you watch all videos with subtitles
@@boredweegie553 sometimes the subtitles have a mind of their own and start saying words that sound similar to what's said. Its always cool having nicely edited subtitles to read along with like this dude incorportates.
There are quite a few videos that say, "Captions not available.", when you hit the captions button, actually. Even if they are available they are usually far from correct as they use some automated system that goes off of audio. A lot of the time they aren't even readable. I can hear fine, fortunately, but use them because of audio processing abilities. They would be laughably bad if I didn't know they were so essential for so many people.
**CORRECTION IN THE JETER CASE***
Kelsey was the girl who passed away. Kiersten tried to save her sister but....
31:08- we will just ignore whatever word I made up...
you are very talented. you are very eloquent so we don't notice if you make up any words 🤣
Sounded right to me🤷♀️
Lol gotcha
You’re urmaker. You can say it however you like❤️
That part of the “remastering” LOL?
If someone tells you that they're afraid that they will hurt their baby, believe them.
Exactly.
Or themselves
@Jayce Ollie ‘far leftists’ what does this have to do with politics
@Jayce Ollie This has nothing to do with politics
I personally wont have children. And that's because I don't care for kids, I don't have any interest and definitely don't think I could give them the love they deserve. I wouldn't take care of a kid. I wish all people thought about it before they had kids
"tell them not to shoot me because I don't have a gun".... Your kids didn't have knives either but that didn't stop you from stabbing them. Monster.
What I found so disturbing was her calmness and coldness, she should have got the death penalty for what she did to her two daughters in that abandoned house, that was pre meditated, she is not like Otty who was mentally ill
And they were so excited, too, poor things. I hope that "mother" burns in hell
Awesome remix. I did see all of your previous work and it was good work, but the remix does give it more depth of perception. Carry on dude! Can not wait for more.
@@chellyw63 yes! My stomach turned every time she spoke to her surviving daughter "what baby?"... Like, you just killed her sister and stabbed her multiple times, now you're talking to her like nothing is wrong? Just so twisted.
I agree, she just wanted to hurt people, death penalty is it for me.
@@gremlininblue2601 agreed! There's no coming back from that kind of evil. Poor girls.
The sister who gave the baby back is going to have to live with that choice for the rest of her life. Absolutely heartbreaking.
My prayers go out to Audi. Who’s got the mental issues going on but what’s really disturbing is how her sister and mother were so quick to give that baby back knowing that his mother was trying to find help. I would say the fault would be theirs as well because they didn’t help her to find the help that she needed, and the thought of them releasing the baby back to her knowing she’s going through that puts them liable and responsible for these babies death. Knowing how unstable OTTY was they handed him back to her that’s definitely something they gotta live with and then as she finally calm down listen to it the sister says her as if nothing happened. I don’t know somethings fishy about that nonetheless rest in peace to the baby, and I hope that this experience will get many more mental patients to help that they need.
I’ve been a psych professional for over 2 decades. Postpartum psychosis is so scary. If they say “I want to hurt my baby”, they mean it. They’re letting you know to take the baby or get the baby placed. Get the mom inpatient treatment ASAP. Usually it clears within a few months, but this woman was high-risk due to a chronic psychotic disorder. The medical system and family failed her.
Screw that, I would NEVER "clear someone" who EVER says something like that!! THAT'S EXACTLY what's wrong with this shit! Y'all and CPS thinking these people change!
People do change unlikely more often in mental cases but not impossible and just because one bad seed you can't lock down everyone. It's the world we're in
the street drugs dont help
@@McGMumof3Yall don’t realize just how badly pregnancy and birth fucks people up. There are multiple cases like this BECAUSE of several factors associated with hormone imbalance, environmental factors and general ignorance about mental health. Women who are ignored about their mental state with children can and unfortunately sometimes do have cases like this.
This dispatcher for the baby's question
All children deserve parents, not all parents deserve children. So sad.
Well said and yes, it's beyond tragic!
True
Most definitely. Not all people should have children, which is why it annoys me when people try to push others to have them when informed that that person doesn't want to have children.
I agree so damn much!
She had a mental illness and even tried all she could to get health officials to believe her. They failed thg at baby just as much as she did
“What’s your name sir?”
“Daniel”
“Pablo?”
“Yeah”
😂😂😂😂 and then kept calling him that and he answering 😩💀
Lmao 😂
ikr 😆
But we just heard Beatriz speak her last words and just got shot.
That’s horrible..
@@GBR-cj6fj it's okay, there's humor in everything, they simply laughed at that little exchange taken out of context, I'm sure they still respect what's actually going on in the vid
That dispatcher dealing with the mom in the abandoned house did so well. She stayed calm . Bless her
yeah fr
and the pure shock when she heard the first phrase.. but she still managed to calm herself down almost immediately
a hero and a real professional
911 operators don't get enough credit... Staying calm under these horrific situations along with instructing the callers on what to do or trying to keep these monsters calm is amazing!
Just being detached and knowing how to do your job properly/being sufficiently trained.
Hi, so I’m going to kindly direct you to call 5 as to my rebutle towards you. 9/10 dispatchers are incompetent people only half listening because they don’t really care about the situation at hand, just the check. If they do mental evaluations on dispatchers prior to hiring, they really need to stop brushing over the big bold capitalized 4 letter acronym: ADHD. This is some incompetent asshole on the internet and thank you for checking out my TED talk.
You got to keep in mind, she asked to be admitted into a mental hospital, they denied her, and she tried to give her sister the baby to protect him, yet he was returned. The people involved werent that helpful.
i put the most blame on the hospital that refused to admit her but the family also could’ve prevented it
Exactly and some of these comments are so closed-minded. It shows that these people don’t have any mental Illnesses & criticize the people who suffer from them.
@@misseselise3864 The family didn’t have the training to prevent that. Hence why she should have been admitted.,,
The sister had experienced her episodes before and saw them being non violent, in her mind her sister just needed to hand the baby off for a bit while she got a hold of herself, after handing the baby back to the mother the episode resumed and the voices told her the sister was dead there by convincing her that she couldn't give the baby back. It's unclear how aware the sister was of what these episodes consisted of, she likely underestimated the severity of the situation, believing that her sister(the mother) would never hurt the baby because in her mind she could never hurt anyone, the sister isn't to blame, sometimes it's just harder to see the full picture when you're that close to things.
@nexialist sometimes there is not enough room in the hospital and patients lie about the severity of their illness. She probably was referred to another facility and never went. Hospitals dont just turn people away on a whim they have a whole protocol. Yall are quick to attack the ones actually doing something while yall arent helping anyone at all ever.
This is why mental health should be free and not cost $1,000’s of dollars. That poor baby
It’s all about population control, give pills to make sure that they feel nothing...
yes!!agree..
Yes true
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I don't think that's right. Mental illnesses are real and while pills and other meds don't always work, they're better than no treatment. Conspiracy theories like the one you decided to add to this conversation aren't helping anyone. Conspiracy theories, in fact, are making everything worse and adding to the stigma that comes with mental illness. I know you probably think that you're helping and that you know some secrets, but you're really not.
I've always had mental health issues. My mother and I made a pact early on in my first pregnancy. If I felt or thought I'd hurt my baby, call her immediately, and she would come get him until I could get help. I had postpartum depression with my first. She was 45 minutes away and made it there in 20. Thank you Mom.
Oh, are you and your kids okay now?
I was also wondering the same.
Are you and your children fine now?
And God bless your amazing Mother!
I myself have been struggling with anxiety as long as I can remember.
I was diagnosed with anxiety and depressions in my early 20s.
Later I was diagnosed with ADD.
This is a major reason as to why I have no children.
I didn't want to pass that on to innocent children.
I’m so glad your mom could help! My postpartum depression was pretty bad, I told my mom I needed help and wanted her to watch him while I went the docs to see if I could get some treatment options and she told me I was selfish and didn’t care about my kid, then she tried to put him up for adoption. I got on meds and left the house and I’ve been fine since. I had friends help me so I wasn’t alone with my kid during that time either just because I had heard so many horror stories of PPD moms hurting their kids.
That third story was heartbreaking. Hearing her last words before passing away is horrible. I can’t even imagine being a dispatcher
Caller calmly: “I just killed my children”
Dispatcher hoping she heard wrong: “Excuse me?”
The people on the phone get traumatised, already. Now imagine being the guy who has to clean up the mess.
Thank god the stayed on the call, like wow
@@nocturnaljoe9543 I mean the police get the body they have to clean the blood tho so if they imagine it’s paint hopefully it’s less painful and traumatising
@@starlitsong8456 no a crime scene team that specializes in cleaning crimes scenes after the police are done
Idk man but that's a cute horse
i can’t imagine how stressed the paramedics were while trying to find that damn house
I'm glad they were on time. Imagine if they couldn't find it and that girl bled out.
@Jane Doe did you watch the video or
They probably get used to being around crazy people in America
i’m stressed just listening to it
@Florian shes giving them minimal info, wtf you mean incompetence? They saved the child's life. I'd like to see how you react to that sort of situation.
Call number 2, with Debra, just made me feel so angry. She stabs her 2 children to death, but one’s still alive, so she became annoyed and irritated and almost bratty that the police aren’t coming fast enough to save the little girl she just brutally stabbed!
and calling her “baby” god i feel sick
@@kyliixx0 right?! Just vile
People really need to start listening to mothers when they say something is wrong. It is insane how they just get dismissed when they are trying to seek help
They tell patients to speak up over and over. When they do, they are met with ignorance and contempt.
dude when your sister is telling you she’s hearing voices and hallucinating why would you give the baby back to her?? this story is so sad
Yeah they really failed that child
Yeah thats what I was wondering
I really blame the sister tbh. I mean yeah the mother was bad but it wasn't her fault. 100% her sister's fault.
living with a family member who is deranged for all her life/years, you only get that cautious the first few years... Because if she survived all those years it means she's okay... right? We know it's only one push away and she can snap but we don't know whether it will be tonight or tomorrow... so it's okay to have her hold her baby right?
as someone who experienced living in such a home I kinda understand the situation.
Exactly. She was bringing the baby to her sister knowing she's a danger to her own child, and the sister thought it's okay because she's calmed down? Poor baby :(
The mom says “What baby?” To one of her daughters like she didn’t just try to kill her
I know... I thought the same thing.
I know, right!!? Like the Mom is asking what type of salad dressing her daughter Said she wanted on her salad!! 🙄
made me sick...how could she even think to call her daughter that after doing such a traumatic act.
The lady requested help, told she was going to kill the kid and professionals sent her home with the baby anyway the day before. The system failed her and that baby.
@@monicabolden8663 I think you are referring to the first story, these comments are about the call with the mother of the two girls and when the surviving daughter says something in the background she asks "what baby?" In a nonchalant way like she was just going on about a normal day and the kid had asked her something or said something and she didn't hear her. It was eerily calm.
HOW COME WHEN I RUN A STOP SIGN THE COPS ARE THERE IN 5 SECONDS BUT THESE CALLS TAKES FOREVER
Debra was not insane. Her entire dictation during the call was clear and calm, and she stated she didn’t want to get shot . That was premeditated murder
Obviously you don't know how psychosis works.
@thespclflash456 Taking them to an abandoned building to kill them is premedetation.
The first one definately had schizophrenia but the second case she might have mental illness but she knew was she was doing because it was planned out , case number one wasn't like that.
@@Kdubz_Auto_HVAC Alright, let me make the basic argument that you obviously don't have the common sense to have thought of yourself. She ate the baby. She was EATING the BABY. In what world does a sane person do that?
@@thespclflash456here’s some common sense for you, this video has multiple 911 calls. 2 different cases. Debra is not the one who ate her baby.
@thespclflash456 it doesn't cause you to load your kids into a car after telling them you had a surprise, drive to a area you know is abandoned acting like normal, stab your daughters repeatability, and then call 911 perfectly calm to report what you did to get revenge on your ex. You obviously don't know what psychosis is...
No one:
Not a soul:
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....I hate how accurate this is
@@queenrestauro7865 ?
Same like??? What
@@whatthefridge1o1 I think they ment it got recommend not that they ate a kid (I hope) 😂😂
Everyone failed otty. Her sister for giving the child back,the mental health system for rejecting her cry for help and sending her home when she begged them to keep her,and most of all America for making people have to pay for vital medication. Everyone should feel ashamed and now a child is dead and the woman that was failed so many times has to live with what she's done.
The mental health system is so screwed up in America... needs way more attention :(
This is what made me cry
I believe it, I went to a free clinic I told them I was having anxiety really bad they said I would have to wait months for an appointment and that they probably wouldn't give me any medication. Good thing I wasnt suicidal. I just can't imagine if a person who was asked for help at the same clinic and got that answer.
The system failed Otty but she also failed herself by not staying on her meds. Her sister thought she was better. She had no idea that Otty would kill her child. She should not be blamed and will probably lives feeling guilty for the rest of her life. What worries me is that Otty may very well be released one day.
@@oliviawright8756 eh, just you. I'm diagnosed with severe depression and attempted suicide multiple times, the last time I did a couple years ago some healthcare workers showed up at the hospital to speak to me and they filled out paperwork so I can get free health insurance that I still have today. I don't have to pay for anything.
The fact it took so long to locate the house is my worst fear come true. Our house is located on a small backstreet off of the main street. There are only 4 houses back here and despite having a sign up saying our addresses are around the back routinely every delivery driver cannot find it and it takes 10 minutes and often walking out onto the main street to get them to find us. We had an emergency last year (it was much milder than we thought and my family member was fine thankfully) and luckily a neighbour heard the commotion and went out to signal the ambulance. But im terrified of one day something worse happening and no one being there to help them find us. I always tried to comfort myself thinking that emergency services would pay more attention to street signs than a delivery driver but hearing this series has reminded me how human these people are and mistakes are still possible to make especially in the dark when that sign isnt as visible
That's what happened to me once. I had very high pulse, and feared i would faint and called emergency services. Our House was the only one in the street, somewhere between two villages. We got the number 21, and all the other houses with the same street name were actually on an road opposite to us.
I saw the emergency drive up and down the road in the distance while trying to remain calm while trying to describe the location of our house to them.
this is so sad. she really tried to tell EVERYONE that she was going to hurt herself or somebody else, and what was working for her was something she couldn’t afford. my heart breaks for everyone involved.
Debra admitting to killing her children like she's ordering pizza wtf
Ikr
Come on, hurry save the one that didn’t die :)
Eric Foreman I know lol
Unus?
@@annier9742 memento mori :)
The first baby would likely still be alive if america had a better healthcare system...
Yes. This could've been completely avoided if the healthcare system was better. I'm so sorry for everyone involved, I hope they all get the help they need.
Jörunn von Westernhagen you both are completely clueless lol
@@duckhunter17 then explain please.
@@duckhunter17 If you think so.
The baby would still be alive if the sister didnt give it back to the sick mother.
The sister failed her nephew the fact she gave the baby back to her mental sister shows a lot. The sister didn’t want to be bothered all of them are to blame
he should’ve gone when OTTY said she was ready, not based on the sisters judgement
The lady in the abandoned house was very competent and deserves a full sentencing
the operator in the second call is incredible for staying so calm while on the phone with a real life monster.
Omg ikr
That's part of their job, they can't be freaking out when someone calls with a life or death situation. It may come across as cold but it's not
I don't think she asked enough questions to get information. Move on to the next ask about the children..she just stopped after the name...could have done a bit better in my opinion.
@@hungrymothergoose well the mother wasn't giving much to work with, giving very vague directions and not a lot of info about herself or what was going on with the daughters, plus telling them to fucking get there like they were the ones who hurt her kids and not her.
@@caroldowning5964 some people are just mentally strong. But you can tell she was uneasy and nervous
Not enough people talking about how that girl saved her sister.
Hero
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Actually he did a correction and the one who tried to save her sister was the one that lived.
She was unable to save her sister. Poor girl. I was surprised to hear that she willing went to visit her mom after her sentencing.
@@trackydoo I hope she doesn’t blame herself for what happened :(
@@bliviously5484 I’m sure she had some horrific survivors guilt. I have an older sister and I couldn’t imagine how I’d feel if we were in a situation where she died and I lived. I’m sure she had guilt for a very long time, but I hope that she has been able to overcome that guilt, because NONE of it was her fault.
That poor lady on the phone trying to be quiet, hearing her ex unalive her was heartbreaking..I'll never understand how people do things like that verses moving on, and finding someone new..and the poor baby's, so heartbreaking..
Unalive?! No.... I've heard that too much!
The way these people are speaking so clearly on these 911 calls stating they just killed is so scary...its terrifying to know that human beings can do such evil even animals couldnt do this.
Guess u didn't listen to the last call where the chimpanzee rips the lady's fucking face off
Well the monkey did he mangled that lady over a tickle me Elmo toy
"Hurry the fuck up! Why aren't you comin'?! I want to save my daughters whom I have brutally stabbed! C'mon!" ...*sigh*
That’s wild but who asked
@Natalie Malmgren you ain’t gotta tell me shorddy
Right! It's not like she was even trying to stop the bleeding or anything!
Karen Whinesmore nvm lol
@@karenwhinesmore9347 not excusing her actions but trying to stop bleeding right after a serious psychotic episode due to severe stress or illusions (we have no clue what she was undergoing) would be quite hard. Not only is it hard for people in the medical field to do it under stress, but for your every day person to do it seems highly unlikely. And like medical professionals advise, you should call 911 and let the professionals who actually know what their doing deal with it. if she or any of us tried without any clue, we could likely injure said person even more. Again though, not excusing her actions
The way Debra spoke about killing her children and then how she called her half-dead daughter “baby” and said “hold on they’re coming” like she didn’t just try to kill her confuses tf out of me
n the fact that she's so fucking calm about killing her children-
You can't make sense of severe mental illness. It's tragic her daughter died and also that she didn't get help long before that happened
She has mental health.Probably didnt understand the situation
The operator on the last call.....I jist cant undestand. HIM!!!!.....i remember this case though...sad....
That was a very good video....sad sad circumstances ...but very good work Sir😊
My heart just broke for the lady with the chimp, hearing the desperation in her voice 💔
I listen to a lot of these and the most frustrating and emotional things for me is that so many people ask for help only to be rejected. Don't blame them if you won't help them
"The price of her medications caused her to stop taking them." Just another person failed by our heath system.
Heartbreaking
Yet people from out of their country get more than citizens
She also actually sought help 💔 😔
What you want them to be free and your taxes raised by 10 times more? I don’t think you know how that works.
@@puest-uo4lr i don't think you do either
the little twelve year old girl who jumped over her sister to save her life is the f**king bravest person ive ever heard of. That little girl deserves the world, rest in peace little angel, ive never met you but you have a special place in my heart, right next to your sister, love.
He actually had it backwards kierstan (the one who tried to save her sister) was the one who survived, sadly her sister passed.
@@alexxhobbs7575 that’s even more tragic, knowing you tried but couldn’t save her. Horrible mother.
That girl who jummed is still alive...d other1 is dead..wht ur msg mean by right nxt to ur sister?
@@advocatesmitataru3554 she says they have a place in her heart right next to each other. Don't think about it too hard.
What time of the video did he mention her?
i watched the second call a few years ago and her nonchalance still surprises me 😭 the dispatcher handled it so well though
My god the last lady 😩 I feel so sorry for her. She really was going through it 😩
Hispanic dude calls in, says name is Daniel. Dispatcher: sounds like a Pablo.
LMFAOO ! 😭🤚🏾
he also said "i shot 3 people"
dispatcher"2 people?ok"
😭✋🗿
Exactly, like how do you even mistake that?
I don't think she made a mistake. I think she knew he because he has been in trouble alot
That is incredibly sad. She asked and begged everyone for help. Even handed her baby to her sister and TOLD her she was seeing things and the babies face was changing. Damn man.
@@UmatsuObossa the thing is when you’re like this you don’t really have a sense of what’s right or wrong, you’re not aware you’re doing anything bad until it’s over, so it’s not that she “listened” to the voices she just wasn’t aware *in the moment* that it was a bad thing bc it felt real and like it was what she was suppose to be doing. i hope this make sense :)
@@ginnybean838 Still...yes and no. I was on nitrous oxide for a dentist appt once, and I was definitely experiencing delusions, I felt like I had been in the dentist chair since the dawn of time and world be forever into the future as well, but even though I felt that way, I still also knew that wasn't actually right. Also in a fit of depression once I took a shitton of benedryl and was definitely getting weird delusions from that. I was talking to a friend and telling him I didn't know if I was even actually talking to him, or if what I was saying was gibberish or not. But when I sobered up, everything I'd thought I'd said, I'd actually said, and I'd never behaved irrationally the entire time. It could be something with my brain, maybe I'm extraordinarily grounded in reality or something. Everything I've ever done that has made others supposedly lose control of themselves, I never came close.
@@UmatsuObossa her delusions aren’t from drugs it’s different
@@UmatsuObossa
The thing is, when you’re being hounded by voices, when reality begins to change, your brain, especially when it is purely your brain that is doing this to you. When she was in her psychosis, she has no sense of anything but what her brain is doing to her- believing she has a demon/needs to get the demon out. It is clear that her psychosis took over and won, she was no longer herself and she’ll forever have to live with knowing she did it, even though it wasn’t entirely her fault.
@@UmatsuObossa Though we get where your coming from, but that was a one time thing for you. Otty was experiencing it constantly and she tried to get help for it but she couldn’t pay for it. Please be mindful and don’t compare your experiences to something so big when yours is so small. Your sane. She is not. Otty took drugs constantly, you took them for whatever reasons you needed them for.
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The chimp one made me annyoed, "he ripped her face off"
officer: is Ur friEND oK?
You can survive with your face off for a long time I’ve seen cartel videos people have survived hours
@@Cvollo yep I know
@@Cvollo true but its the fact the person asked if they're OK
And then he wants her to check on her like wtf. Why? So she can get attacked too. Dude needs a different job.
@@Cvollo yea but they didn't ask if her friend was ALIVE, they asked if her friend was "ok", like wtf do you mean of course she's not ok half of her face is being ripped off..
The girl literally jumped in front of the knife for her sister 🥺
I know that really broke my heart like what a good sister :,(
And she is the one who lived
@@brooklynsizemore2372 the one that tried to save her sister lived?? I couldn’t tell from the video I just assumed the one that passed was the one that jumped in top. God I feel like I am forever scarred for watching this video because I can’t stop thinking about this. Can’t imagine how the survivor and her relatives feel. Truly evil.
@@ABeautyConnectionx yea she lived
Poor girls 😢
Hero
Wow thank you for covering this. I lived in the area and I remember when this happened. It was heart wrenching to see happen in your hometown.
Debra was very demanding considering what she just did to her daughters. It would be difficult for her to claim insanity considering how calm & collected she was.
My heart absolutely breaks for Otty. She did everything she could to get help and the doctors told her no, she didn’t need to be put on the unit, then her sister gave her back the baby even though she’d given Scotty to her several times and they all knew she was hearing voices and having hallucinations. Everyone who was supposed to help her failed, that just breaks my heart. You can only do so much to help yourself when you are so severely ill and your support system isn’t listening.
Idubidably!!!
I agree with you 100%!! Just the fact alone that she ate the baby tells us, mental illness is at play here. Then you add all the people who failed her when she was trying to get her mind well again and it becomes something entirely different than other premeditated murders.
Exactly. Alot of ppl with mental illness never get the help they truly need. She wanted the help, she knew she was getting bad off but noone took her serious. I feel for her. Its so sad about her baby. If they would’ve listened to her then scotty may still be alive.
@@trickortrump3292 her saying she was gagging but the voices kept telling her to eat it breaks my heart. She was so sick and tried so hard to get help. I feel like guilt will eat her alive in her sane moments
Right...she needed help and she tried to get it. The baby and her didnt need to be in the same home as each other
"what's your name?"
"daniel"
"PABLO?"
i get that handling these calls can be stressful...but wow lol
Kyoji Kasshu EXACTLY 😂😂‼️‼️
WHO THE HELL IS PABLO🤦🏽♀️‼️‼️
🤣🤣🤣
The fact that he didn't correct her after hahah
Yeah lol I was thinking the same thing I clearly heard him say Daniel and she called him Pablo through the whole conversation and I'm willing to bet that that made it even easier for him to do what he wanted to do, like he felt like it was meant to be the bitch didn't even have his real name. You never know how people think but it just seemed to me like as soon as she started calling him Pablo and he went along with it, the deal was sealed and I knew he was going to shoot himself on that 911 call. He had already made up his mind and she made it easier by not even calling him Daniel which made it much more impersonal. Just my opinion but I just felt something change with him as soon as he just went along with Pablo instead of even attempting to correct her. These are all something else I have heard them but everytime I hear it again it's still shocks me and freaks me out. I know that that chimpanzee did bite that that woman's fingers off one by one, apparently fingers are as easy to bite through as a carrot! Crazy little fun fact for you LOL anyway yeah I definitely hear you Pablo and Daniel sound nothing alike LOL
@@DanaBongard I know and you know what I don't think it helped anything because as soon as he went along with it oh, it kind of seems like it's cemented what he was going to do he sounded like he became more confident in what she was doing and not trying to think with rational thought. It made it less personal and therefore easier for him to just do it. Little things like that that people don't always think about or in this case she didn't even realize but they really do matter.
Wow 😯 the last one really got me. You have a very nice, soothing voice. First time listening to you definitely subscribed.
This was hard and heartbreaking to listen to, thank you fir sharing these with us. Bless the babies and children
The way how she said “I just killed my children” so calmly- and was telling her “hurry up, hurry come on” I’m-
Ikr the way she said "hurry up" in an annoyed tone like she was getting someone to fetch her some water or some shit
@how to respond It was so scary the fact that I'm so scared she might attack the other one if she got the so pissed about it.. the way she speaks like.. it wasn't her children at all
And even cursed out the operator, like they wouldn't have to hurry if you didn't try to kill your children ma'am
it’s the fact she was talking to them asking “what baby?”
It annoyed me that the dispatcher kept calling her sweetie, darling and crap like that...
Otty shouldn’t have been discharged. The hospital is responsible for her baby’s death and everyone’s trauma. Poor Otty.
So is the.sister
@Madison Daily yes because she was very mentally ill and suffering, she needed very serious medical attention, and it just seemed like she did not get that. “poor otty” doesn’t mean forget the baby. the baby deserved to live and not get tortured and killed. it’s all more than f-ed up.
@Madison Daily i think that’s such a cruel thing to say...yes, poor baby
@Madison Daily well that’s your opinion, but if that was true there would be no such thing as mental health hospitals or therapists.
@Madison Daily because she was severely ill in a way that impacted her thinking and behaviour...acknowledging that she couldn’t help it doesn’t mean saying it was an ok thing to do.
Wow this video kept me on the edge of my seat in just utter shock…and some tears. Good job 👍🏼. Thanks for the video. Amazing job ❤
I just don’t understand the family… if you KNEW she had mental illness and she said to you… take the baby…. Who are you to decide she’s ok to have the baby back smh this is sooooo beyond sad. This didn’t have to happen to the baby. I’m soooo sad
How do you kill one of your kids, and try to kill your other then say "what baby?" You're a true monster!
That made me shiver!
I like to think she was cursing at her. The daughter I mean.
Mental illness can be a monster
She was mentally ill she tried to get help but the system failed her
Ohh man that what shooked me, how in the world!!!
The fact that the sister gave the baby back to her mentally disturbed sister who had already said she was afraid she would hurt the baby and was hearing voices "after she calmed down" is just mind boggling. Poor Otty and poor baby. Such a horrific tragedy that never should have happened.
I 100% agree all that good of being avoided she could of kept the baby
It’s not her sisters job to take care of her baby.
@@jasoncaldwell0613nobody’s saying it is, but if someone’s telling you they’re gonna hurt their baby cause of the voices in their head and is practically begging u to take the baby from them why on earth would you give it back to them?? she knew that otty had struggled w mental health issues too?? like this could’ve been avoided
@@jasoncaldwell0613It quite literally was her job. otty was put in the care of her sister, it was absolutely her sisters job to make sure she was going to be okay.
@@mwag8403 Please stop abusing the word: literally. From the sound of her sister, she was likely not competent to assume this responsibility. Unless you know otherwise and I doubt you do, her sister did not become her legal guardian. Please except the reality, that some people are not curable, and NEVER will be. Both the mother and the sister were too stupid to make the correct choice: tell CPS about her history, decline involvement and insist that the baby be adopted, immediately. That would have been both intelligent and responsible.
This video was well done, sad, and informative. It made me want to cry for these poor people. Mental illness is very scary.
Great Video! You did awesome with the videos & calls.
The mother in the second call doesn’t DESERVE to call her child “baby”
Edit: everyone replying to me keeps thinking I’m talking about the first call, I’m talking about the second one. The one where the mother killed both her children in an abandoned house. Please reread before replying.
That’s not her child no more.
My goodness dude the child is dead and she's like "yeah get the fck over hear now to save my kid" das tuff
@@sevageza.delulu_ istg! My mouth was open the whole time listening to her.
@@CourTooKnee I was in shock at how she was talking😔
Imagine what happened to her.
You are not being born like this.
People like this were MADE.
Most time it's the parents faul... Etc pp...
The fact that the officers in the first call actually required psychological help really says how horrific of a sight they must have found.
I'm sure that Otty's sister needed a lot of support too. And that dispatcher was a jackass.
all first responders are affected by children the most
I hope they got the help they needed.
@@aloysiusdevanderabercrombi470 how...
Aloysius Devander Abercrombie right! they were really rude and impatient while ottys sister was in a clear state of panic.
You did a fantastic job..Thank you for sharing all of these videos with us I love them..
Great job. Keep bringing us the videos. .
"He's killing my girlfriend!"
"So what's the problem?"
This dispatcher is 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
Dispatchers always seem to have 0 fucking emotion it baffles me
@@OUSTET The reason is because they’re trying to keep whoever is on the other end as calm as they can. It’s not that they have no emotions, it’s just they’re doing what they can to try to calm the situation. Most dispatchers need therapy because of all the things they are told about. They have emotions. They’re human, just like us.
Not to be mean, but he sounded kinda slow.
@@OUSTET Someone needs to be the voice of reason in these cases. They couldn't do what they do if they reacted emotionally.
@@Hutchman05 which is why I could never be a dispatcher. I break under pressure.
The girl was a hero, she died to save her sister.
absolutely right. i hope that she’s resting well.
Actually, the elder daughter tried to save her little sister but wasn't able to. The one who survived was the one who tried to save the other one. The whole 911 call was unbearable :(
@@fayleurefayleure1495 absolutely wrong. She lived and her sister died despite her best efforts.
God bless her
Fr it breaks my heart
You did a good job putting all of this together!! Enjoyed it forsure!! Traumatized but okay lol
Worst thing about some of these mental illnesses, people don’t realize until someone does something really horrible…this is sad on all levels
“tell them don’t shoot me I don’t want to be shot” well the kids ain’t want to get stabbed either now did they Debra?
Right?!
facts
Nahh fr tho 😂🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
That's weird, I heard her say she's got an SKS and coppers ain't taking her alive....bring it.
I said the same thing when I heard that... she has sum nerve
The way she said "I killed my children" was so cold, that sent shivers down my spine.
right?? "I killed my children, one of them's still alive though. Hurry up" wtf?
Yeah, even the 911 operator was like "excuse me". I bet even she was shocked at how cold she was.
so cold.
Wency HD she said it calmly too , god she’s sick
Julio Rodriguez/ She said it in the most MONOTONE voice ever. Her statement afterwards proves how cold it is when she says something like "Get here quick one of them wants to live". It just makes the "I killed my children", as her first statement macabre
Just found this channel and thank God your videos are very informative and detailed not just random videos of stuff! I had forgot all about Travis the Chimp😂😊
Excellent video information! Keep going!
Otty tried to get help because she knew her baby was in danger. Everyone failed that baby. So sad.
Yeah yeah
I know Otty Sanchez as a friend and coworker. I do know she and her family repeatedly asked for help, made numerous trips to doctors and ERs. All in vain. To listen to people on a daily basis state that she should be killed, dragged in the streets, set on fire in the street and so on took a toll on all of us who knew her. She is in the state mental hospital and will not be released. Only her family can visit. She has to live with this. I know for a fact she loved Stephen with all her heart and would never under any normal circumstance EVER hurt him. She would have died to protect him. The health care system and doctors let her down at every turn. Thank you for realizing the truth.
The one person that failed that baby the most was otty. Idk why ppl keep trying to pass the blame off of the killer.
They should have listened to Otty when she told them to take her to the mental hospital place..
@@Tsiri09 Yeah, she was telling them "I need to go to the mental hospital" But they didn't listen.. and when she couldn't afford the prescription, they should have tried to help her the best they could by paying for it or something.
I don't know why I'm listening to these calls but this is horribly terrifying.
Its demonic
Me too dude it makes me so sad and hate humans even more but yet I can't stop myself from listening. How does a mother/Friend/Lover even do this hanus crimes against their loved ones. Makes me sick to the stomach
I fall down these holes of listening to this stuff, worryingly often 😅 I guess it's the side of me drawn to morbid stuff like everyone else like ya know conspiracy theories a campfire tales. I think it is important to monitor your mental health through these though, that's absolutely vital-- people can be absolutely horrifying for sure.
It gives us a sick thrill... in our otherwise dull lives
I’m listening to this at 2:35am! I don’t wanna sleep anymore but I have class in the morning
I love your videos. I’m glad you didn’t stop.❤❤❤ sad sad stories make you realize it’s not so bad on your end.
Not many people would take the time to redo old videos to make them better. Great job!
Otty needed help.. And everyone failed her when she asked for help..
Absolutly. It's really sad
Yah they don't really care,,I'm so sad for the Baby ,,haist
I’m crying with her sister call, omg, this is so so sad and heartbreaking 💔
“I get to see my mom tomorrow! Yay!” So heartbreaking..
J Juice I don’t think that’s the right response
😢
@@gbands9699 wtf is wrong with you
i read this comment before i started watching, I've now watched all of it and i didn't hear anyone say that in any part of it :/
@@SouthEastSJ The daughter posted in on social media (My stupid as cant remember what it was) The day before her mom stabbed her.
I’m so glad I found one of ur other channels, I can’t get enough of ur voice fr if I was a millionaire I’d give it all to u just to continue hearing ur voice
You did a great job. Keep them coming. 😮❤❤
The lady who stabbed her daughters calling her daughter "baby" as she's lying there bleeding out is so cold. That lady is deranged.
Facts
she spoke of them as objects.. " one is dead dead but the other one is alive and wants to be saved." THOSE ARE YOUR CHILDREN HOW COULD YOU!!!! omggg i'm so angryyyyyyyyy
She stabs her kids out in the middle of friggin nowhere and then gets snippy when the ambulance takes too long.
They should’ve gave her the death penalty still
I guess you don't understand mental illness. It's not so simple as good abd evil.
Otty used her last ounce of sanity to ask for help. They failed her big time. Her family too.
When you stab your 2 kids and then call the cops and say if they hurry they can save them you know your insane
Her family didn’t fail her. Her sister literally took care of her and her child.
@@nevoodles8210 she gave her baby to her sister because she was seeing things and that her baby's face was changing, and her sister literally just handed the baby back to her saying her that everything was okay and then the family went to sleep like nothing happened. her family ABSOLUTELY failed her.
I thought the title was like not true because youtubers do that often and now I- jdnskabg I’m traumatized.. How could she eat part of her baby I can’t even imagine
@@sasakimirai4318 what if you were taking care of a mentally Unstable person and their baby. This was a thing she would always do, she would get the baby when otty wasn’t feeling right but when otty calmed down she would get the baby back. On top of that Otty killed her baby, it wasn’t the sister or anyone else. Yes, she was not doing well mentally but she did kill her baby. Blaming anyone else for her actions doesn’t do anything.
Thank you for all you do and continue to do
Great videos, thank you for your hard work.
That girl in the beginning is just so sad and sick. The woman was truly truly sick in her head and the hospital should have checked her in when she requested. She tried to save the baby and herself.
The hospital didn't fail her, her own sister did.
Aurelius Marcus they BOTH failed her it’s not just all on the sister.
Yeah it was both of them the hospital majorly failed her. She requested to be checked in saying her babies face was changing. Why would you not check someone in if they say that?
Kay Paranormal and yet her sister is being treated as a scapegoat!
@@avirose6 I know. They act like her sister is a therapist. She needed to be somewhere where people had eyes on her at all times. I'm sure the sister could only stay up so long before falling asleep.
The sister that jumped infront of the other sister was a hero, she died saving her sister. Poor girl
It was actually the younger sister that died, she unfortunatelly couldn't save her, the creator corrected himself in the comments
ok
She gave her life for another . This is the ultimate sacrifice. She is in paradise forever and ever.
@@bruceleehee9267
She survived, the sister she was trying to save died. Sad.
The tiny toes bit made me tear up a little that poor baby.
When someone shows you who they are BELIEVE them 🙏🏾
Woman who has an extensive history of psychosis as well as suicidal and homicidal thoughts: Please admit me to the hospital. I am hearing voices telling me to kill my son, and he's not safe with me.
Hospital: lol no you're fine
Woman: Sister, please take my child. I am hearing voices telling me to kill him, and he's not safe with me.
Sister: lol no you're fine
Woman: *kills child*
Everyone: OMG how could she?? No one saw this coming how did this happen? Why didn't she just reach out???
As someone who struggles with hallucinations and delusions as part of my mental health disorder this shit pisses me off so badly. Literally the first and last thing they teach you in any kind of mental health treatment is to reach out for help if you need it. How are people supposed to get help if it will fall on deaf ears? Of course the child is a victim and was severely wronged but in this situation the mother is just as much a victim. Not only does she have schizophrenia to deal with, but now she has to live with what she's done on top of a manslaughter charge when the situation could have been avoided so easily.
bruh
The only valid comment
Ikr. Im kinda pissed to the sister, she should took the baby away and not let otty come back to the baby again. Otty said herself, and they clearly knows she is mentally unstable. I feel sorry to otty and the baby :(
This is why society is so f**ked up.
As someone with psychosis, I agree.
Sometimes illnesses like this are heavily influenced by our emotions. Turning that mother away constantly when she was begging for help, was a dick move.
It's the same thing with suicidal people. Others ignore their cries for help, but once they take their life, then everyone makes a surprised pikachu face because they "didn't know what happened".
The first women should have never been allowed to take her baby home with her with that kind of severe mental illness. I can only imagine how regretful the sister is over sending the baby back to her bed that night. The second mother deserves the death penalty she planned this out to give her daughters a “surprise” just plan evil. Her being suicidal has nothing to do with her evil actions that day she said repeatedly she didn’t want to die please tell cops not to shot me...wow just wow!
Im pissed off at the sister, otty clearly didn't want her son next to her, yet they still forced her to look after him. They could of saved the baby yet they still gave him back to her
That's exactly what I'm thinking 🤔 please tell them not to shoot me but Yeah it's okay to kill your children 😭
Just wanted to say I’m the 100th like completely agree that baby shouldn’t have gone back with otty at all the second one just makes me sick she doesn’t deserve a life the police shouldn’t have shown mercy they should have just shot
@@louisephillips5429 yea i get what ur saying but she probably didnt think she would kill her baby the baby was a newborn so thats probably why they tried to make her take the baby because a baby needs its mother especially a newborn
@@lewissabre um, what country do you live in? In America the police do not dispense justice nor ever plan to shoot anyone. It doesnt matter what was done. They are simply there to bring a suspect to custody. They arent even allowed to shoot you for running away if youre not armed. The only time they are supposed to shoot is *if you raise a gun*. So her request is as ignorant as your response. Justice is dispensed via the courts in the US.
Interesting videos. Keep them coming
Really good video! I subscribed 🌝
The woman who found the abandoned baby in the trash showed a billion times more concern and love for that baby that wasn’t even hers than that monster Debra showed for her children ...
Exactly!! Very very sad 😢 how could someone harm a child? I just don't get it...smh 😩
I know I agree.. so sad and senseless uch
Ghosts, Satans and demons are everywhere. They will take advantage on weak ppl if they had a chance. Depression ppl have weak souls so dont ignore them. Suiciders are also get disturbed by Satans. When they hear things means their condition are getting worse. Dont ignore them until they have to kill somebody and Then you panick. These kinds of ppl need to be treated. If they ignored, their condition can be worsen. Their body need to be 'cleanse'. I know this because im a Muslim. Alhamdulillah 😇
Asian Female Ghosts? Satans? Demons I understand but there’s only one Satan, and ghosts aren’t evil they can be but they’re people that haven’t passed on to the afterlife.
Yeah listening to that part was like a breathe of fresh air after hearing about Debra's horrible killing. It's like I almost lost touch of the good people in the world. Its scary how people go insane and do things like this to other innocent people. Just imagining myself being a physco makes me feel disgusting
The second dispatcher is so good. The way the woman talks to her, saying "bitch" and other things, and the dispatcher immediately understands the case, is surprising. I would have said something like "try not killing your children first" when she started telling them to hurry up
Lol. And that's why there's sensitivity training for jobs like that 😂
You would have got her other kid killed then
Imagine growing up with a mother like this...
That cold hearted beast...
i could never call a lady who just stab her children "sweetie" or "darling"
@@lizzy2211 she's being as nice as she can so the mother doesn't harm the living child.
Wow these video's are great and you did a awesome job keep up the great work ❤
I just subscribed to your channel. You just acquired a new fan sir
As a person with significant hearing loss I cannot thank you enough for the subtitles. So rare.
You can toggle the 'subtitles' button on a youtube video (one of the tiny buttons on the right lower corner of the vid) and it will let you watch all videos with subtitles
You can easily turn captions on or off on all vids on CZcams..
@@boredweegie553 sometimes the subtitles have a mind of their own and start saying words that sound similar to what's said. Its always cool having nicely edited subtitles to read along with like this dude incorportates.
There are quite a few videos that say, "Captions not available.", when you hit the captions button, actually. Even if they are available they are usually far from correct as they use some automated system that goes off of audio. A lot of the time they aren't even readable. I can hear fine, fortunately, but use them because of audio processing abilities. They would be laughably bad if I didn't know they were so essential for so many people.
She's blind in one eye stupid!
I sometimes wish I were to be a fish or something. Just, floating out there in the ocean, only eating algae and stuff. Not knowing of humans at all.
And then a bigger fish will come along and eat you.
Not all humans are bad, in fact, most of them are good.
I wish I was a cat getting my belly rubbed and sleep all day and being rude to humans.
Me too. Humans are the worst creation ever made
And then you get to know of'em..when they use bait to reel you in
I hope the fish don't ever wish to be human
Thank you for your work!!