Community in Conflict: Hasidic Jews & Defection
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- čas přidán 20. 08. 2024
- Part 3: When you are born into the Hasidic Jewish community, you are born a Hasid for life. However, if one does choose to leave the community, they risk being an outcast in not just the Hasidic community but the secular community as well. Three Hasidic Jews who left the community and reveal why they made the decision to cut their ties.
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If you want to control someone, keep them living in a bubble.
Underdawgification and that’s cool but to control others’ idk about that
Boom
@Underdawgification No one lives a pointless life. This community forces and denies, that's control, not living wholly. Same as Scientology.
simpleton logic from an era of tyranny where such crap abounds
I cannot agree with you more
Extremism never mind which religion is bad and causes misery all over the world.
Freedom of Association.
I agree with that sentiment but I wanna make the difference between extremism within a community vs Islamism where the whole world needs to submit
@Wednesday's Child How can not believing in deities by responsible for problems?
Religion doesnt bring misery tot he world at least not judiasim. Living a fake empty life is what brings misery. People who fallow religion on average are more happier and have more fulfilling life . They have families and values. Ask most religious women they are happy . Take a secular women she isnt. Most are chasing there carriers and before they know it they are in there 40s no kids no husband and alone. Thats why the egg freezing business is blowing up. And that's why you have a 80% devorce rate vs the 5 to 10% that religious people have . The religion teaches younwhat life is really about and that not everything is about you . But secular people have no idea what they are living for and they live for themselves only . And thats why they cant have real relationships and needs drugs or pills to keep going .
@Wednesday's Child Only ones you made up in your head you schizophrenic boomer
So...they live in Brooklyn but Brooklyn doesn't live in them.
Vote Little Win Big They don't care about Israel or any other state. You don't understand them at all. Everything comes from the first 5 books of the bible (Torah). They are more similar to the Amish, who are not keen on the outside world governments or political powers that rule.
In response to various comments above:
Firstly, I study Talmud. I do not recall such a statement. Where are you getting it from?
Secondly, these youngsters are people who are hurt and just trying to get on with life as best as they can figure out. Who cares if Brooklyn lives in them? Everyone should just let them heal.
George Muenz yeah, not just Christians, but Jews have been kicked out of literally every single country they’ve ever lived in and they’ve been treated like garbage.
George Muenz not only that but it was the blame for Jews and romans for what they did and how Jews murdered the followers of Christ . It’s pretty sad that they are also behind isis and isis killed 21 Copts . So it’s Jews who’s killing Christians sadly but true
Isn't it weird that they chose New York City, or all places, to make their home in the U.S?
It’s sad. A couple of days ago I went to a bowling alley, and their was a synogauge trip to the alley that day. when I was not playing, I sat their on my phone and all the Hasidic Jew children and teens stared at me like I was from a different planet. It is a whole new life.
That's exactly right! Anything contrary to their ways are completely foreign! In a lot of isolated sects, even another Jewish woman dressed to the nines, not in accordance with the standards of that sect those kids will check her out from head to toe. I don't blame them, they never saw anyone dressed differently than their obedient mothers...
Sa was saddagsjga as asßa Sara
Huh? So many orthodox people have smartphones kids like technology but now that I'm a little older I'm grateful for not being exposed to it when I was younger
@@supreme5580 theyre not taught ANY manners… so they stare at y with their tongues hanging out.. they have zero tact and the parents say nothing
@@chayarivkyheilpern4334 glad to see you not using technology or SMs there bud.
He is right, the secular world is totally insane.
Agreed, from a Filianist.
It is insane somethings but at least give them a choice.
@@kayem3824 Utterly silly remark.
@@kayem3824 you are aware that circumcision is a very common procedure, right?
@@sarasimamanheimer307 I can't see why a design by nature, or from the religious perspective , God, which must be perfect should be tampered with.
It is sad that they deprive their children of a proper education.
Most of them become successful business men without . In fact most successful peoplebin the world never passed high school or past it
@@irokdastar Successful? Lmao. They are all on welfare, food stamps, and section 8 housing.
Robert DiMarzio no that’s not true at all
@@irokdastar I'm not sure what you're basing your comment on but I can tell you that you're wrong. A lot of people become successful regardless of education but many, so so so many lack proper education and tools to get a job and most don't go to college.
What do you call a proper education? I wouldn't send my children to a public school: I would sooner have them learn online. And many Hasidic schools do offer a secular education. This report is completely biased. And I had my religious experience in college, and I don't think universities are open-minded. People in academia hate conservatives and religious people.
While I was in Israel I saw an article in a Paper about the social problems within these communities, how closed and nasty they could get if Social Services got involved with abuse cases.
"Paper" which one?
Some of these communities are so closed off and isolated from society, they reject outsiders as much as possible, often to the point of violence against those who come to their communities immodestly and so on, except when it comes to getting money or joining the govt to get benefits for their communities and way of life.
THEIR BELIEF TO KEEP KIDS ISOLATE AWAY FROM WORLD REMONDS ME OF AMISH AND MORMONS
It's a Jewish version of the Amish.
Not even close, these people are mobsters... some would call them MONSTERS!
That's really anti-Semitic. How can you generalise and say that they are gangsters and that their culture and religion is vile and disgusting? Judaism is a beautiful and fascinating culture and religion and I'm so proud to be a part of it. Yes I don't agree with Hasidic Judaism and that they deprive their kids of a proper education, but the Amish do the same! The Amish and the Hasidic Jews are alike as they both shun the secular world and don't believe in education, especially for women. I wouldn't say that the Amish are innocent; I'm that there are many Amish mobsters as well.
Good analogy.
let's relax please. you can disagree with them but to call them gangsters is an enormous generalization and it's rude, especially when I really don't think you know what you're talking about. disagreeing with their culture and ideology does not mean you need to hate them so much. that's what the entire Jewish world is about.
Tammys Chin Hair another sweeping, anti-semitic generalization.
Ben Shapiro should have a say in this; he said that Muslims cannot concede to western civilization; but what are his thoughts on this, they see the non-hasidic or secular world as insane.
The Rabbi himself even said that “The less they know about the outside-world, the better.”
As a muslim myself, I see some similarities. In our education, music and arts among other things were not allowed, men and women are separate and cannot talk to each other unless they are married or related to each other, and had the least exposure to the outside, but that’s changed now and since them I’ve learned a lot.
I’ve followed what I’ve been told, that “When in Rome, do what the Romans do.” Hence, I practice my religion in private, and I just blend into the culture I reside in; but it makes me wonder how these hasidists remain the same and did not adopt to the environment like I did, I wasn’t in the Middle-East anymore, so I had to adopt; this community didn’t, yet those who do adopt are exiled...
How come?
Ian Miles
There are almost as many jewish groups as there are Christian denominations. Ben Shapiro is Modern Orthodox left of center. Even this doesn't fully describe his affiliation.
Most of this clip is not true. Ultra orthodoxy also has a full spectrum of openness and acceptence. Alot depends on specific parents and what they want.
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Well, ok, Isaac Abraham may not be credible, but what about those who were exiled?
Chaim and Bina, they've stated that they were not allowed to wear any different clothing, study other subject, and they were banished, though they would still visit their families, but the community would not talk to them anymore, what about them? Surely they could be credible in how they say the Hasidic community is or acts?
Two things: There will never be more than several thousand of them, and they will not ever try to overrun American culture. They are a harmless sect of Judaism and their mission is not to conquer America like the Muslims. Yes, there is the Messiah, Christianity has the same idea as well so don't go there. That has no affect on the here and now.
omg lies lies lies
What would Ben Shapiro say? Very simple: I'm not chasidic, I'm modern Orthodox. Completely different hashkafa (world view)
These particular Hasidic sects , Belz, and Satmar are unique . There are other sects, like Chabad who don't isolate like this and in fact their mission is to reach out, not close off, even though their dress code is somewhat similar, they aren't zenophobes...so don't judge all Hasidic people to be so cut off or adverse to technology.
Cheryl Robbins chabad are not to far behind belz and satmar, they also send their children to yeshivas were all they learn about is Torah and the rebbe,
No science or maths, going around on Friday asking did you put on tefillon today and reading the parsha
Bits'N Bobs the chabad yeshiva that I went to had basic English
lol not so ... female doctors and male doctors and dentists and all Chabad
Wow Cheryl. You kinda know it all. i would love being at a party with you and here you crying dont judge me dont judge me.
All through history it is been proven when one group of people say we need to stick together, and only associate with our own kind those are racist. When you put fear into your community and saying other people outside your community of bad that is racist. When you dictate what somebody should wear or how they should think that is it A cult.
Wow Bina Aaron is such a beautiful girl!
You are more beautiful 😊🌻
You're beautiful
I agree. I would love to "make babies" with her 😁♥️🇧🇻👍
@Michael Dunetz 2-3 kids is enough 🤩 Having children is a lot of hard work. No one should have too many children.
She’s pretty because he has more middle eastern Jewish look. Jewish women who had ancestors that mixed with the local Slavic population in Eastern Europe are less beautiful.
"How do you see the secular world?"
"Insane."
He's right.
Tertius Carstens haha yes.
Because it’s ruled by an insane god. Satan
Even as a product of the secular world, at times I have to agree.
@@raulveron4098 that might be weird but not insane. All the world is indeed insane
At the same time they're the cause of that insanity
It’s sad how these religious communities don’t want their people thinking for themselves. But it’s the only way these leaders can keep their power and influence.
And tough situations create tough people. True leaders come from tough early life!
This is ridiculous and I'm surprised Fox actually produced it! Lots of Chasids are well educated professionals. I'm totally secular but I do have Chabad relatives in Israel. The couple are both well educated, both have PhDs in engineering from the Technion for Pete sake!
Yet they live religious lives, have 8 kids, and live in Judea.
Plenty of Yeshivish non Chassidic are also insular. There are portions of each community which are insular, and portions which are NOT insular, and it's not about religious "level" at all. I am a convert, I chose this. I am orthodox. BUT I don't believe anyone should ever be coerced. We are in a free and democratic country, not a theocracy. The mental anguish these kids had to go through is terrible.
Lagolop nn
@william moody
What are you responding to? What does "nn" mean?
My husband is the last of 8 from an extremely Hasidic Chabad family and graduated from UCI and is a software engineer. My mother-in-law went to Columbia and my father-in-law was a brilliant neurologist.
So true! To add to that, I am African American and Jewish. The Orthodox community in Israel was very welcoming when I visited. Even with the language barrier, they went to great lengths to be friendly, offer food, water etc. Further, here in America, many Orthodox where I live are doctors and lawyers, scientists etc.
They're exactly like extremist Wahhabi Muslims even in their religious practices. Makes me sick! I'm grateful I grew up in a non religious family.
Adam never a truer word said
Adam, one huge difference; they're not violent. Not being hasidic myself, I certainly find that to be a huge difference
I’m from Boro Park Brooklyn and not part of the community , I despise these people that blame the community for they’re problems , I only have awesome memories there . And I’m welcome back anytime !
Ikr!
Despise?! Whats wrong with you?
And yet you left. So much for them being great, eh?
@@robertdimarzio4490 she didn't say she grew up in a Chassidic household. People can appreciate something yet not want to live that way everyday. And she is speaking about her experience. Off the derech in her world can mean something else to someone else... it is all about perspective. Like he states, what secular world are you speaking about?
I live in Brooklyn where the Hasids have probably sold a billion dollars worth of real estate in the last decade.
And none of them are rich. They by bigger beaver-skin hats and have more kids.
My people (the WASPs) have one of two kids and buy boats, tasteless suburban houses and flat screen tv and soon we will disappear.
Nothing but respect for the Hassidem
I have no idea where I was when OJ Simpson was convicted. I'm not a member of any insular community, I just don't give a rip about professional sports or so-called celebrities.
I was in Brooklyn last September on Friday afternoon and this nice observant woman took time of her day to go out and give Shabbat candles to people, she said “ watch the candle lighting time”, my level of observation doesn’t go beyond kashrut, I am so jealous of people who “ can “ serve the Creator fully, huge admiration! There is only Hashem, everything else is fleeting, thankfully there is teshuvah and someday their Jewish soul will realize that it needs fuel and go back
I am a teacher in an Orthodox boys school. The school strives hard to give the boys an excellent secular education without too much emphasis on all that is bad in the world. Do we want our children learning about transgenderism and homosexuality when they are five?
so you are saying that homosexuality and transgenderism are part of the bad things in this world?
Liam Gill
Yes, I am, especially if taught in schools to young children. It was only a matter of time when homosexuality was normalized that our society started spoon feeding acceptance of this as normal to young children. That does not mean that I wish harm on anyone or would treat anyone poorly, quite the opposite. The next logical step was teaching children transgenderism. So yes, this is insane.
Fo Reel
Huh? Wha?
I completely agree!!
Yes you should want your children at any age to know of other ways of life that involve love, acceptance and truth to differences. Gays, trans and bis are human beings and children do start to recognize their own persuasion at early ages and should know the options out there instead of the limited view currently being shown.
Conservative Jews should not treat Jews who leave Hasidism or any other form of Orthodox Judaism as outcasts but should instead take them in and make them part of the Conservative Jewish family.
One sided, this is one sect of the Hasidic community. It really differs amongst a lot of Hasidic communities. For one ChaBaD are very different. They for one know about the outside world and arent like this.
They're the only chasidic sect that knows anything. They don't reflect the general hasidic tendency of uneducation. גלייב מיר איך ווייס וואס איך רעדט.
I'm glad someone made this point!
But almost all of the radical sects are bad at living with other groups, because they are taught to be.
Look what massive problems these people cause in Israel.
Doesn’t matter what kind they are. Cockroach is a cockroach
@@Kimkoo2290 explain your self. Are you calling human beings bugs?
There are so many different Hassidic sects. Each one is different from the other in so many ways. It is hard to pigeon hole every Hassidic group to having the same strengths or deficits of another community. What goes on in Williamsburg does not go on in Borough Park or Crown Heights. What happens in Mea She'arim in Israel as part of every day life is not what happens in Tel Tzion, Beit Shemesh, or B'nai Brak. The negative aspects about Satmar may not even be problems in Chabad, Bobov, Vizhnitz, or Breslov. Be careful to paint the Hassidic world with one brush. That is the problem with this video.
Boro Park, Williamsburg, Crown Heights and the Catskills Mountains are have a large Jewish community in New York STATE.
Please....they all are against going to university and mixing with secular society with the exception that Chabad have better PR
@@MrPickledede um im chabad and I have a Highschool diploma and both my parents have college degrees. My dad is a software engineer and my mom is and administrator for a private company operating in a private school that offers special services for secular education and she was an English teacher before that
This is not a correct representation Hasidic community
Yefim Gudesblat I agree with you. But I do think it is very difficult for them to be properly represented because they are such a secured community
Its pretty much the same everywhere, I listened to a programme on the Hasidic community in London and its just like this, a stifling straight jacket of religious dogma forcing everyone within to conform completely or be cast out, kinda like a cult, or actually just like a cult
How is it not??
It most definitely is correct....and you know it is
@@katakisLives that's not true. More and more awareness is being raised about kids leaving the community and so more parents are learning to be supportive and loving.
She seems like she was very bitter unhappy with herself growing up and blaming her surroundings. Sometimes you need to fix yourself within , behavior around others instead of complaining about others
This mr Abrams is not an Hasidic community spokesperson, no one appointed him to be one and I’m not sure where you picked him up.
Its not really fair for him to speak the views of the Hasidic community as a whole. There are so many well balanced and knowledgeable people in the community, the real ultra ultra clueless of the outside culture ones are a small percent.
I know so so many in the community that have graduated high school and went on to get degrees in many fields, medicine, financing, law just to name a few.
They go to shows, they travel the world, and definitely read and watch the news.
Interview them, not the few that are the most extreme in the Hasidic community.
True
So true! This is clearly made to promote one viewpoint. For example, listen to all the upbeat music playing as the former Hassids shed their religious clothes.
Bina...you have much more courage then 90% of other girls your age...I know this whole thing from nearby and the struggle and loneliness you have to go through is more than people imagine. You are a huge success and will be in the future...
I abandoned my religion culture too freewell religion are man-made there is no God for you
I think it's a dreadful way to bring children up. And to be chastised for wanting to leave. You can believe without being pulled down . Well done these youngsters for leaving. Proud of you.
The world is scary and sometimes seems crazy. I understand why such communities exist... Freedom requires a lot of strength and balance...
I don't believe in religion I live a freeweel life...I abandoned my culture
Hey Alessia. Can you explain what your first premise has to do with the second?
I live in the chasidic community and this is not everyone's experience. It doesn't have to be like this. Yes, this is a lot of Satmar Williamsburg but there are other chasidic possibilities. I guess i had the opposite trajectory. I also went to the University of Pennsylvania and other ivy league style schools. I grew up learning calculus and knowing most of these cultural references. It didn't really add so much to my existence. I now choose to live in the chasidic community. I am super happy and am shocked at how well ive been embraced. Im raising my kids in this community and they are fully aware of other ethnicities and possibilities and that I am not trying to shield them from diversity but am trying to reinforce the belief system that i believe in.
This guy on the video "advocate for the chasidic community". Seriously. Who is that? You can't just put a crazy sounding guy on a soap box and label him "chasidic jewry". How about getting a chasidic speaker on chinuch? A Rabbi Weinberger or such? Someone to make the argument level between the pros and cons of a community that self isolates. Just make the discussion a little more interesting with real facts and actual rationale behind some of our practices. Its insulting that you expect me to believe this guy is representing American Chasidic Jewry. I usually like FOX exposes. This one was disappointing at best.
Give me a code if you are being forced to say this...
Yehudit Meira Biton, well said!
You're lucky you had exposure and choices. I personally know a woman whose husband divorced her and whose children were taken from her because she secretly got a library card and signed up for a college class. It is unforgivable when people's choices are made for them and when they're prohibited from seeking ANY knowledge that exposes them to the ability to make their own choices.
Yehudit Meira Biton whats chasidic n Hasidic difference?
@@HR-ii6ue they mean the se thing. With the "ch" is how it's pronounced in yiddish or Hebrew but with just an "h" is a translation.
I'm sorry to say that this report is not fair and balanced.
these people are damning themselves with their own testimony the hasidic community is crazy
Since when is fox news fair and balanced? 😂
Why
To be thruthful - I am quite surprised that this was allowed to be aired on FOX.
Its critical of sectarian monotheists.
People who rate 3,5k year old musings of old semitic patriarchs to be the most important "truth" at all.
Normally Fox would cheer on those xenophobes.
If they where evangelicals not scooling their children and shielding them from realities to further the sect.
Totally agree!
Watching this is painful. I grew up in Williamsburg as a hasidic girl & left the community after I realized this way of life didn't meet the needs of my kids. There is so much misconception & hatred against a group of people who have the lowest crime rates, amazing family values, & charity organizations. Most shows about them is rampant with antisemitism & generalizations. Many who leave come from toxic dysfunctional families, their family failed them & not because the community failed them. Part of their core values is to protect themselves from the "outside world" & remain insulated, rightfully so after 2000 years of torment & prosecution which continues to reflect in videos like this which makes the community appear as if they're failing their members when in fact most of them are good people trying to raise their family in the best way they know how. The continued slander of the community reinforces their belief of how the secular world feels about them. As long as they're not hurting others please stop spreading biased one sided information which paints an entire community in an unfairly negative light.
omega portal I agree that we're discouraged from reporting to authorities & domestic abuse and sexual abuse is a crime which should be reported however these crimes are commited in the secular world as well & across the board both crimes go underreported not because they don't "snitch" but because victims refuse to report & charges can't be pressed on an abuser if the abused don't want to testify. The community has created many organizations to assist victims of domestic violence including hotlines, Shalom Task Force, & Sister to Sister who provides countless services to women & children of domestic violence. I urge you to educate yourself on the strengths of the community before bashing it. It appears who know about the shortcomings however can you name a few of their strong points? What is the end game of your bashing? Do you have constructive criticism which can help the community improve and become better? I'm all ears as I am active in educating the community members in growth & development. Your feedback is appreciated.
Waterybint * I agree that this is a form of a cult and the children do get brainwashed into this lifestyle however its not true that they are the highest recipients of welfare. Many of them are productive members in society and build up big businesses, get educated, & embark on successful careers, also the women aren't oppressed, they WANT to have children, raise large families & shave their head as learned the virtue of it. All religions brainwash their young to some degree & can be labeled a cult. The children are indoctrinated to believe there's an imaginary man in the sky & millions of christians are tought about Santa Claus & naughty list & Jesus & the Jews have done wrong & millions of Muslims are tought murdering infidels & martyrdom is a virtue so if you want to call the hasidic community a cult they're just like all the other religions brainwashed to lead a certain lifestyle. This community certainly needs to enhance their educational system however there a lot of great things about the commumity & most livimg there are very happy & thriving. So your bashing isn't at all transparent constructive criticism. It reeks of antisemitism.
Says the person who left......
+Sara Cohen
It's not antisemitic to point out the very real harm that is done by insular cults such as chassidism. Granted, I agree with you that there are many nice families who do not INTEND to harm their children. But being super-ignorant often results in them harming their children unknowingly, such as keeping them from even speaking english or getting a normal education.
I'm an ex-Jew, and I've spent LOTS of time among Jews. The "core values" of Williamsburg have more to do with fear, superstition, and ignorance than it does being positive, productive members of society.
says the person who left, lmao
The saddest thing about the this is they had to go leave Judaism in order to get a job. I just don’t understand because many of my friends from the Hasadick community, work in real business & go to Yankees games & they live in Williamsburg.
There is difference between Hassidic Groups. Even Haredi Ultra Orthodox have different levels of strictness.
This one sided propaganda fits more for CNN
I grew up in the Chassidic community. When I was older, I attended a Chassidic college in Boro Park , and got a masters degree in Special Ed. I began tutoring English studies at Chassidic schools. Then I realized that taking children out of their Talmud studies to learn English was not very beneficial for the overall well being of the child. Eventually I stopped started a small business. I am now paying off the 30k Debt from a useless college degree. I hope my children will not repeat my mistakes.
I believe that It was my extensive talmud studies at Yeshiva that helped me "think out of the box" and have more success in life now. I work with many successfull Chassidic businesses.
She should date a Black guy now. Lets see how supportive her parents are.
I'm so glad for Bina Aaron, she seems like such a kind soul. Liberated from the chains of religious fanaticism, and exploring new horizons. Way to go lady! Wishing you the best of luck.
Imagine going your whole life never knowing who Lady Gaga is.
But I guess one can't know the greatness of the blessing of not knowing about Lady Gaga or the OJ Simpson case or the Beatles [is that really Paul or a plant from British intelligence??? Is Paul trans??? Inquiring minds just need to know...] until they've lived at the level at which that is the only reality that people do know.
YOU ARE RIGHT ,SHOULDE WE OR OUR CHILDREN LOOK UP TO A VAIN STUPID ADOLECENTS lady gagas or ignoramouses like false sports heroes who suffer aids because of their immoralities, or look up to our great sages be they men or women who teach us how to live a good and holy life of morallity
I am praying for you guys a lot these days💗
Its a pitty a Jewish person leaves their community and leaves their family that teaches good things and the truth to follow and become part of the outside world that is so crazy, confused, manipulative with compulsive liars and arrogant unbelievers. That is having interest and love for the useless things on the planet.
The true insanity is controlling people to live their lives for you.
This is classic clickbait reporting that is becoming the new normal for mainstream media on both sides of the political spectrum. Mainstream media is losing their audience to more intelligent podcasts.
This type of clickbait reporting reinforces generalizations of groups and isn't helpful at informing the public at all. It's very easy to pull quotes out of context and create the story you want. Fortunately most people are smart enough to see through this type of superficial reporting and have started listening to podcasts.
Jesse Honig
you seem to be responding to a different video, they allowed the otd kids to present their case and didn't go anywhere beyond that, what agenda did you perceive that I did not?
Total nonsense. I grew up Hassidic, still am and so are my children. I got a great education and am fluent in math, science, psychology and economics. I serve as a managing director at a major US investment bank and taught at NYU as an adjunct professor. If people want to point fingers at their communities in their attempt to make themselves feel better about all that is, or was, wrong in their lives then that is their warped prerogative. Fact is that there are many successful and educated Hassidim and there are also uneducated people in the secular world. We each make our own choices in life and setting fire to whatever community one grew up, in my humble view, is an act of ungratefulness.
If you are as smart as you're claiming you would know there's different sect's. Some are extremely strict while others are not.
@Tech Tacho and if you were smart you would realize that I was replying to a single comment, not the video. Go back to grade school.
I had no idea how bad they treat anyone who want to know about the outside world. Very similar to the Amish here in PA. They completely disown you if you choose to leave that life. Crazy!!
I'm so glad these kids made the break (OTD) from the Hasidic community and are able to see the rest of the world as it is a beautiful place.......
I am coming from secular( non religious family) who became observant and later on joined Jewish Orthodox Community of Brooklyn.
There are so many lies in this video, it is full of stereotypes that the media puts on Orthodox Jews. There are Colleges and Universities from all over USA that have their branches in Jewish Orthodox communities. There are Hasidic Doctors, Lawyers, nurses and many other professionals. Sure, there are still people in the community who prefer and like to be segregated and not to learn "secular studies" but there drop in the ocean..
I am drawn to the Hasidic community. Good for you.
@@princesschristiana7228 thanks
Just the headline is not correct saying "Hundreds leave Hassidic community each year", it's probably not more than 5-8 people each year...
“Being different is just like everyone so we are all the same”. Being in a nation that has a racial/ethnic /religious identity irritates them because they’re “noticed” and can be identified easily. That’s what frightens these people.
“They’re so afraid of anyone thinking of new ideas” smh so true
Don’t blame them for quitting, kinda unfair for the women to work all day so her husband can study the first testament all day every day for the rest of his life why she works.
Strange KKKath-o-lick laddie. half the Chassidim live here in Israel,98% vote pay taxes and as I am Chabad Chasid volunteered and served 72 months in an elite infantry unit,my son in Tank corp and a relative in commando unit. most Chasidim of Chabad serve.
None of this is true. You can go to yeshiva and be a doctor/lawyer/scientist etc. A lot of these people are just off the derech. Call them what they are.
@jack masri They discourage it, they don't forbid it.
Seing the kids you can tell jewish is not a race. They're European.
In some ways I like the security that comes from having a community you know so well, a husband who would be faithful and a large family. I live in a world of partner-swapping, isolation, homeless people on the streets, drug taking and alcoholism. And I live in Oxford, England a prestigious university town!! Nobody takes care of each other anymore, we live in un-caring communities full of damaged and hurt people.
I'm happy this showed more diversity. Binah spoke about how her family didn't leave her and she has them in her life. As an orthodox Jew, in my community most people who do leave the community are still connected to their friends and family, although the media tends to shine it's light on the few who have the "horror" stories.
Why is "horror" in quotations? I personally know SEVERAL people from this community whose lives became nothing but horror when they decided to live their lives according to their own ideas and desires?
@@wakeupwithvictoria4816 That sounds like a vast generalization. I've known several people from secular families whose lives were nothing but horror. I've also seen many people from secular families who became religious, and received absolute disrespect from their families. It goes both ways.
@@revacohenWhere is the vast generalization? I didn't say ALL.
That is an exception, I believe.
There are far more horror stories due to the ingrained customs and limitations of the culture.
As a non religious dude, this was fascinating.
People in the outside world think they are free but they are not because of technology social media and revolving credit which has become a dangerous lifeline for millions.
I’m surprised that Fox put this out there. I feel bad for these kids but it’s a very limited viewpoint. These are kids who didn’t follow the typical path of their communities but unfortunately did t have parents or anyone else to guide them as to how they can explore their interests while remaining an observant Jew. I know many ultra Orthodox Jews who have advanced degrees from the top universities in the world (Harvard, Yale, Penn, Chicago, Columbia, Dartmouth, Georgetown, Northwestern, NYU, etc.). They are doctors, lawyers, accountants, finance execs, teachers, businessmen, psychologists, social workers, etc. You don’t get there without have broad horizons and an excellent education. This video takes a few unfortunate examples and portrays it as a religion-wide epidemic. Nonsense.
You cannot show God's love, or draw people to God, by shunning the world or yourself from it!
This was very one sided and unfair report
thats called propaganda
Florida Truther - Not one-sided. Isaac Abraham advocated for the Hasidic community. He made his points concerning "secular reason".
Susan Diane Howell Exactly. This isn't a biased or even a new story at all. Fox is merely doing a status update on a story I heard a few years ago. This is truly happening and apparently has gotten worse since I last saw the story. I live in NY so this is a thing. I first saw this reported on PBS. Even the leader in this video has been a staunch advocate for non-assimilation in every way. Really odd how people are saying it's one-sided.
My point is this documentary paints a bad light on Orthodox Judaism. It does nothing to show any of the positive aspects of it. Just because certain behaviors are prevalent in today’s society doesn’t make them right. So what may seem old fashion or restrictive perhaps is a more meaningful life.
Florida Truther so almost no freedom for a possible meaningful life
I am not an Orthodox Jew, but a progressive Jew none the less. How are these rules any different than any other community? We have mothers preaching no tv, no iPad, no video games.. there is a list. Although I do believe in arming your children with the appropriate education to navigate this new world the communities protections are not necessarily a bad thing.
Gosh. My grandfather is in this video at one point where they show his book as if he’s some sort of Hasidic rebbi Seriously he was not Hasidic and I’m not. But I have friends who are, and relatives who became Hasidic and I have absolutely nothing against Hasidic people. In fact they are the nicest people. This whole video is a misconception and is hard to understand if you are secular.
Everyone is hating on chasidim based off three people smh people today are so dumb
@@Lee-ju6fj facts... It's ironic cause check those antiHasidic people's ancestors, they were Nazis in Germany, or Pogrom Police in Russia, or slave "masters" in Egypt
They should have stayed and had a meaningful life with beautiful families. Many Hasids are very educated.
Barry Wicksman How can they be educated if they don’t know much of the outside world? It’s just control, control, control, and even more control with the women. They’ve got to wear bloody wigs! For crying out loud! Brainwashing at its worst.
I'm not sure if you're familiar, but the strict laws and pressure are very restrictive and choking.
"Who's OJ simpson"?
Best thing ever 😆😂🤣😆😂🤣
I grew up Christian and I wouldn't have known that either
I grew up Hasidic and I had no clue who OJ Simpson is until now when I bumped into this video... Can't say it really affected my life in any way not to know who he is 🙄
Yep I didn't know who oj simpson was till I was 21
HOW Are they allowed to be in this country and not learn are schools curriculum? How are they able to own business if they aren't qualified?
Why is it that you never see a homeless Jewish person in New York City? They are definitely receiving special treatment from the Government but how come African Americans don't receive the same treatment? Our ancestors were murdered and mistreated as well 🤔
Extremes isn’t great either way ...
All the OTDs are pursuing high level goals. Very cool!
Life's a funny thing. You remove blinders keeping you from what's out there. When you reach old age ,(70+) in my case , there comes a yearning for simple, secure and predictable existance. But you know, when you think about it, you've changed and you can't go back.
It was in beginning of the 19'th century, one of the governor's of one of the states was asking a tribal group of Indian Americans' kids to join the American schools, so the people of the group told the governor to speak with their cheif leader one of the elders of the tribe. So off he went to the leader of the tribe that was in middle of fishing, and the governor explained the tribal leader how great it would be, that they will get educated, so the leader asks: "and than what?" So the governor continues: "they will get good jobs", "and?" Asks the leader, so the governor continues to explain: "they will be able to retire at the age of 65", "and, what will we do then?" Asks the leader, "they will sit comfortable on a beach with no worries and fish". "This is exactly what we are doing!" answers the leader.
How did they get into these good universities when other Americans, who have a broader education, can't get admitted? Wtf?!
it's all about the benjamins
"I didn't know who Lady Gaga was..." 😁
I once visited a rehabilitation center in Brooklyn, NY and there were a lot of women who were doctors. I think this is a bit biased.
"a bit"
Were they Hasidic Jewish women? And definitely not from these sects.
It's surprising how they teach their children to be racist..
michelle.makoni Trust me they are the most racist people on this earth! Always been that way!
They said don’t speak to someone out of their community but they didn’t call people this that and the other like all these people on the street. An N here an N there
its interesting to watch this video, cause i'm actually a chasidic person from boro park, and almost all the people i know have well established businesses and high paying jobs. one of them is a psychologist one of them owns a grocery store etc.
Lol duh
How many architects do you know?
You mean the men, right?
So am I and I can assure that I've seen both sides. A large problem in the community is, not even that they can't get a fancy shmancy job, but that they're not making enough money to cover the expenses of their large families.
This video is nonsense. Many Hasidic people work in medicine, law, business, finance, engineering, and other post-collegiate fields. This video selectively chooses people who left Hasidism as "witnesses" in order to indict an entire community, one that hasn't done anything to anyone.
Well, to be fair, some Hasidic businessmen are continually getting caught treating their non-Jewish employees really bad, including not paying them fairly. (legally)
Scripture tells us to not 'muzzle the ox while it is threshing'...
The ironic thing about all these comments is, there is NO irony in FAUX news reporting, it's always bad. lol
:D
Everyone has their own experiences within their community / religion / culture. These are their stories, it is not wrong because it's not what other people experience. Some people have better experiences than others.
If you're in a religious sect, of any kind, that keeps you from the world, doesn't treat it's members well and has abusive leader - then pretty much everyone has a bad life... UNLESS your either close to the leader(s) or part of their family.
I would love to see a follow up ten or twenty years later to see if they still think they made the right choice. I am familiar with both Borough Park and Amherst. Amherst and the schools there is one of those places that calls itself diverse but only if you think and believe as they do in social and political matters. So really did she exchange one kind of "insular" community for another?
Yeah, he really missed out cause he didn't know who OJ Simpson was... what a poor education.
🙄 Abraham?
The point isn't that he (and others) didn't know who OJ is...it's that they aren't PERMITTED to know!
Simpson was used as an example to make something else understandable. He couldn't use that example to aid him in understanding something else.
As an older Native American Woman who has 10 degrees...I would encourage you to be aware of your heritage and demonstrate respect...when your young..you want to explore however, consider the protectiveness of your elders, it’s to help and demonstrate their love. I can relate and it’s sad to actually see young individuals lose their lives because of choices that can maybe others outside your community could care less. They value you as an individual who they see is the hope of their future?
May you stay blessed, Prayer and Respect. 🤔🔑🙏💕🔎❤️🇮🇱
Why mention how many degrees you have.
yeah, I'm sure it was Plato she was reading on her smartphone.
Wow, the less they know the better they are off. In other words, we can't let them think for them self.
You may ignore the world but the world will not ignore you.
but doesn't Hashem give everyone freedom of choice-?
To be fair. She did ask him, “have you ever heard of the Beatles?” And his response was no
He’s 19. It’s safe to say that any kid wouldn’t know who the Beatles are.
I am 15 and I know who the Beatles are
You missed the point, the point is it's standard that kids from his background wouldn't know anything about pop culture, a Chasidic boy doesn't know who Taylor Swift is or who Dua LIPA is. Not that their life is dependent on it, but what's wrong with knowing it? It's good, it's american culture! Culture is bad... They're TERRIFIED of any outside information seeping in, that may be a threat to their way, if they think it's a threat it's out... Better be safe than sorry
It's not just one artist or one movie it winds up being thousands of pieces of information, and over time that ignorance causes a lot of racism and other detriments
The Beatles are still pretty popular worldwide. I’m 30 now but when I was in high school a lot of my classmates loved the Beatles. My brother who is 20 also loves the Beatles. Some of his friends like bands like The Doors, Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin and they are ten years younger than me. Also it’s so easy for the younger generations to like 60s, 70s, 80, and 90s music thanks to CZcams, Spotify, Apple Music.
her fair skin is so beautiful to me.
LOL, they think even nerdy dudes look like hardcore criminals. Now that's sheltered.
I'm going to break this down and make it very simple for anybody reading this. be you Christian, Muslim, Jewish or a green Martian the same rules apply. And these rules are not rocket science. They are very very simple. I don't care if it's a social club, or a church, or what kind of socioeconomic social gathering you can imagine... If your higher ups or leaders or pastors or your rabbi...Even your parents... (Yes, including your parents) forbid you from learning or reading ANYTHING...RUN AS FAR AWAY AS FAST AS YOU CAN. No group as a whole can legislate morality. We are all made different. We are individuals. You are an individual man or woman before anything else. There has never been a single instance in human history where Banning knowledge of anything has ever been a fruitful idea whatsoever. Banning the reading of any books, the internet or knowledge of any kind is nothing short of tyrannical. I see nowhere in Scripture where God calls us to be ignorant of anything. How can you be aware of the devil if you don't know the devil. Or know of the devil. If somebody is telling you not to grow in knowledge in any way that person is not your friend. He does not have your best interest at heart whatsoever. God made us individuals. Individuals with differing wants needs and desires. You have to ask yourself, what are these people afraid of should I educate myself? If what they aspouse or believe is indeed right for you and the total Truth for you, should it not stand up to the scrutiny?
Jeff Legg nobody stops you. Free to live as you choose...just like you wouldn't want your kids to break with tradition, do drugs etc...we feel the same way. The difference is, we know exactly what G-d wants from us and "TRY" to live up to his expectations. And its painful when one of our children defect. ..but nobody stops anyone. Our whole religious premise IS ABOUT CHOICES!!!!!
Sara Cohen
Sara, do you live within one of these ultra orthodox communities?
Jeff Legg I was raised ultra orthodox hasidic girl in Williamsburg and can attest to their negative as well as positive attributes. I left the community after realizing this lifestyle will not meet the needs for my children. I'm raising them non religious secular at this time. I'm dissappointed to see so much hatred in the secular world against a community who isn't imposing their beliefs on others trying to live a lifestyle they believe is ideal for them. I don't see how you can compare their flaws with the dangerous ideology of Islam. It's so sad there are so many like you who make this uneducated comparison. I truely hope you can open your mind & delve deaper into what is an ideology you may disagree with (hasidic) vs. Islam, a global threat.
Jeff Legg please disregard the comment. It wasn't meant for you. It was meant for another post who compared Islam and Hasidim which is an unfair comparison. I completely agree with you that denying a child an education and failure to teach them critical thinking is at best poor parenting and negligence. This is why I was forced to leave. My children are agnostic athiests & being raised secular. My Hasidic family continues to love & respect us unconditionally & help me out.
Sara Cohen
Please Sara, I am so on your side and love that you were strong enough to make the decision you did. I am all for people of all beliefs living And conducting themselves as they see fit. As long as ones individual liberties are not violated. You should be free to move about and educate your children as you see fir Sara. With ZERO input or grief from the religious community and your neighbors. I would bet there are far more women in Williamsburg who wished they had your courage and resolve. You should not have to face religious and social expulsion to make the right decision for your children. Does that make sense?
My heros, no un-conditional love and kindness in hasidic community,sexaulity is hushed.high rate of sexaul abuse among families and some yeshivas.that era is done.
You can always return to God
Never give up
Dear Hasidic Jews, I used to judge you but as I get older and study spirituality I come to agree with your community based lifestyle. Most if us in the secular world are on our own if we get sick or jobless. You're alone in this world. Stick to your guns and don't give up.
Yeh. I agree with religious groups like churches, synagogues, mosques helping the poor in their communities. I don't agree with communism aka socialism where the government gives people money for doing nothing
At least they're still in touch with their families and not murdered or cut off from the family like in other religions.
All Hasidic Jews I've met are upstanding hardworking individuals with great morals and top-level careers. My friend and his siblings all have PhDs and are married. Actually, all the orthodox Jews I met in Chicago and SoCal are like that. I admired the tight bond they have with family and community. Maybe they're a biased sample because they're the ones open to the outside.
It's unfortunate for their future that some experience religion by cutting off the rest of the world. An upstanding individual learns to deal with and manage reality, not by omitting it.
Em Night Your an Idiot
I’m sorry and I feel bad that these unfortunate individuals had to and still are going through this Amount of pain suffering and struggle to find themselves But in the same time want to clarify that this is not the Hasidic community the Hassidic community are a group people who will give themselves over mind body and soul to a fellow man to help out whenever in need religious or not The people spoken about in this video that are being described as Hasidic people are a group of individuals That are unfortunately miss guided for one reason or another which is something that happened in every community Now growing up Hassidic And attending school with a full secular studies program and attending college like many of my friends and relatives I find it disturbing that people would think That this is the Hassidic community
Well - it's on Fox, what did you expect??
times are a-changing.
Amazing how things can be edited in a way to make things look a certain way and then the comment section is just a bunch of sheep trying to baa the loudest
to all young people that have a religous community.
You have ONE life, do you wanna waste it, and live it based on community, tradition, religon, culture, caste, tribe, sect ....etc..
This is really biased and not true!
That is a very offensive and nonrepresentative portrayal of the Chasidic community. - Chassidic theoretical physicist
I wonder why they choose New York of all places if they want to live in a bubble
Such amazing people.
Finding their individuality.
Exploring the world they live
In.
They are good intelligent wonderful people.
Such a lovable idiot
@@aviezerscop401 whatever you say
What individuality are you talking about? She now looks like a billion other women walking the planet in her tight pants and all.
@@chatisawasteoftime She broke away from her religious upbringing. Do you know how hard that is, especially if you are raised in a Chasidic community?
Not knowing who lady Gaga is no loss but not knowing about Shakespeare ??!
most of the world doesn't know anything about Shakespeare - does that make them worse human beings? can't they do their job in this world because of that? You seem to be naïve.
Still not a loss. Not knowing Yehoshua HaMashiach (Jesus Christ) and that He was very much Jewish is the greatest loss
@@unavitadellamusica most of the world doesn't know about Shakespeare because it was their choice not to know, NOT because it was intentionally hidden from them.
How about do a piece on Breslov hasidim. This what they are showing has nothing at all to do with authentic hasidus. The concerns of the modern hasidic community are a based of falsehood. Breslov believes that its not all black and white, either (modern) Hasidic or secular. Rather G-D can be found anywhere, EVEN in the most "secular" place of the world G-D can be found.
Jacob Z Breslov! 👏
People wouldn't leave in droves if you addressed the rampant sexual abuse of children, the oppression of women, divorce customs, and the misery of arranged marriage.
In the orthodox Jewish community?
The criminal ones are wolves in sheeps clothing